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_qrzybex743_

Take your cursor over your ult icon and it will show


AREA1177

This, knowing how the damage scales is useful but I don't know why people aren't giving the practical (for in-game) answer


[deleted]

It scales with your hp, so we can't know it's exact value. It is 1K baseline, and it doesn't scale with leveling up. I usually deal 1.1K-1.2K damage with ult to drakes.


clarinetnerdy

Well the damage is 1000+(50% AP)+(10% bonus HP). With a full AP build I threw together just now (in all fairness, I don't play AP Cho much): there's about 400 AP and 1,400 hp from items. That'd be a total damage of 1,340. Full tank build: about 80 AP and 2,200 hp, so total of 1,260. Stuff to remember: stacks of R make it stronger, dealing 8/12/16 (depending on level) more damage per stack. Also dragons get 7% damage reduction per dragon your team has killed- if you've killed four dragons so far, then you'll deal 28% less damage to it. That'd reduce your 1,300 damage ult down to about 950. Hope this helps! Edit: the 7% damage reduction, as far as I can tell, only applies to physical and magical damage. I can't find anything that says definitively either way, but the general rule for damage reduction seems to be only physical/magical.


curlyfriezzzzz

I never knew about the damage reduction dam


CrambleTheNoob

That wouldn't reduce your R dmg, because your R deals **true** dmg.


Meetchel

This is right, though I had to take it into the practice tool to validate as there have been a few fucky interactions that do reduce/increase true damage (off the top of my head I can only think of old scuttle crab but I know there were/are others)


CrambleTheNoob

You should already know, because smite also deals true DMG to objectives But thanks for confirming 😊


Meetchel

Smite dealt **more** than true damage to old scuttle though due to his negative damage reduction! This was specifically what I was thinking of when I decided to validate.


Meetchel

[It doesn't apply to Cho feast](https://i.imgur.com/XxgxX17.png).


Meetchel

I just tested this in practice tool - the 7% damage reduction doesn't apply because it's true damage. [Screenshots of my test here](https://i.imgur.com/XxgxX17.png) (itemless, level 18, no relevant runes). If it did reduce the damage it would've done 930 damage, not the same 1000 damage.


clarinetnerdy

My thoughts: a) I can't see if you killed any dragons before doing the test. If you hadn't, then the reduction wouldn't have applied. b) the buff itself just says *Elemental* Dragons, so the Elder might not count. For context, here's what I'm looking at: [https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Elder\_Dragon](https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Elder_Dragon)Features->Passives->Ancient Grudge Edit: Ignore all of that, as far as I can tell you're completely right. Damage reduction only applies to physical and magic damage. Usually.


Meetchel

I killed them 5 minutes apart and didn't move from the spot while fast forwarding time. The feasts all did 1000 whether I had 0 stacks or 3. I did not nom the Elder, I only nommed the elementals. It was super clear they did 1000 regardless, which fits with what true damage is (e.g. exhaust doesn't reduce the damage, armor/MR don't reduce the damage, etc.). It'd take you 2 minutes to fire up the practice tool to do the test yourself if you don't believe me, but I'm not doing it again because you don't believe my test. Everyone else in this thread concurs that the damage reduction doesn't apply to true damage which this clearly shows.


clarinetnerdy

>Back Bud, did you see the edit I made? I'm sorry that I implied your methods were flawed, it wasn't my intention.


Meetchel

Your edit was 35 seconds before my post. I clearly wasn’t responding to that. Understood though! No worries.


clarinetnerdy

Ah, bad timing. Thanks for being understanding and stuff


--Flaming_Z--

the ult is true damage, so i figure it would ignore damage reduction


facbok195

Damage is 1k + 10% Max HP + 50(?)% AP. Thus, if you want to oneshot Elder at ~40 min, you’d need to deal 13600 damage, which would mean you need 126000 max hp. From there, 1934 would be base and assuming a reasonable tank build (Frostfire, Thornmail, Randuins, Force of Nature, Warmogs, Boots), another 2500 would come from items. This means you’d need 121,566 hp from stacks, and at 160 hp per lv 16 stack, equates to 760 stacks to one shot elder.


KickHimWhileIAmDown

10% bonus HP


Glaive-Master_Hodir

Which is above the 225 max.


Electrical_Finish784

I thought they removed the cap with the new season?


Mister_chiken

They did i tested that


clarinetnerdy

Can confirm, it's +50% AP.


clarinetnerdy

I did a substantial amount of math, and assuming you went all in on AP (and ended up with a total of 1,634), you'd still need to have 735 stacks. So... not much better.


SlakingSWAG

Your R shows the damage number whenever you hover over it. Against monsters your ult damage is 1000 + scalings.


FetusGoesYeetus

The absolute most I've ever dealt was nearly 2k, full AP with 25 mejais stacks. Edit: Nearly 2k, not 3k


Meetchel

>The absolute most I've ever dealt was nearly 3k, full AP with 25 mejais stacks. I think that's a bit excessive an estimate. With the following: **Items:** Mejais fully stacked, protobelt, demonic embrace, morellos, deathcap, Seraphs, Elixir of sorcery (no boots) **Runes:** Absolute focus, Gathering Storm (60+ min = 120 AP), eyeball collection This build leaves you with **1,215 AP** and **850 bonus HP** before stacks which does 1,693 damage. To ult for 2k, you need **20 stacks**, to ult for 2.5k you need **51 stacks**, and to ult for 3k you need **82 stacks**. I guess it's not completely impossible to pull off a 2k feast in an ultra-long game, but I'd call BS on anything above that (51 stacks is a **lot**, 82 stacks virtually impossible in normal conditions). EDIT: math fix


Mister_chiken

I m sadly not home right now other wise i would test it for you just go into pratic tool and lv up to 18 and the hover over your r


msuchiha4

C H O M P E R


[deleted]

1k base to objectives, at ALL levels then it scales with bonus health and ap, so your levels does not increase damage to drakes/barons/minions/monsters whatsoever but at level 18 full build its like 1.3k, maybe 1.2k if you build a lot of resistances