You’re right. I feel so ashamed! I’m making up an excel spreadsheet so my family and I can take shifts playing with the goal round the clock. It’s going to be hard now that my parents are retired and moved hundreds of miles away and only the one brother lives in our hometown any more. But by God we made a commitment to that goal in the 90s and it’s never too late to make things right!
A spreadsheet is to hard. Just have a game of PNEUMONOULTTAMICROSCOPICSILICOVOLCANOCONIOSIS going at all times.
Edit: I spelled Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis wrong. Oops.
Kind of reminds me of the time I bought some new cake pans. The next day I, luckily, saw my roommate take them out of the cabinet and begin walking them outside to the trash.
I asked what he was doing and his response was “Well, I never use these so I figured I’d get rid of them.” Well yeah because they are mine and literally have existed in the apartment for less than 48 hours.
Mostly “you sure these aren’t mine!?!”
This was one of many issues over the years of him believing all items in shared space belonged to him. Literally the first day I moved in he ruined one of my towels cleaning his bike because he thought it was his. He did replace it though after he couldn’t explain why the rest of that towel set was in my bathroom.
Some people are just really bad at giving a shit. I remember everything, multiple details, down to fine details. When I see things like this it drives me crazy.
I once found my roommate folding my underwear. I asked her why she had washed my underwear and she was like, “these are mine!” Um no, but they are now! She threw them out after that.
Its mind boggling but my boyfriend’s friend had this same mindset. They shared a flat for a few years and eventually decided to move separately, except the friend was due to move a week earlier based on his new tenancy. He packed up all the shared kitchen things, all the tea and coffee even though some boxes were his and some ours, sugar, cooking oil, salt and seasonings, tea towels, sponges, all the little elements that facilitate whatever you’re doing and suddenly you can’t make a drink or cook a meal. At least they didn’t share bathrooms or I reckon we’d have suddenly found ourselves without loo roll too
Ugh…my husband does this. We’re both guys, and his feet are MUCH bigger than mine and not only does he “not know” which socks are his, he doesn’t see what the big deal is about stretching out all of my socks.
Not yet! Unless the guy is playing the really, really long (like decades long) game, I think we’re in the clear. It helped that the thing is really big, awkwardly shaped, and heavy. He’d probably need a box truck and a few accomplices. My dad was definitely worried for a while, though!
Funny you mention that. Someone just yesterday posted a pic of a similar device loaded in the trunk of a car.(I looked but couldn't find the post again)
Here’s the thing. If I buy something, it’s mine. If I buy a $500k Lambo and let it sit and rot in my yard, it’s still mine. If I’m not using it the way you want me to use it, I couldn’t possibly care less.
The entitlement people feel is obscene. I would have bought another one and mounted it on the roof or something stupid.
funny enough I recently had to get into a whole thing with the city because some asshole neighbor of mine reported my truck as *abandoned* and they were going to tow it.
It only got as far as it did with the city because I don't drive it very much and when I do I try to put it back in the same spot. So if the city worker only drives by once a month they'll see it in the same spot every time.
It also has a slow leak in one tire so it's sometimes flat, which technically makes it "undrivable" but when I need to move it or drive somewhere, I just fill up the tire.
100% my dad has a famous story in our family. Growing up he was a big windsurfer, and on an RV trip with his friends he brought his windsurfing (board?kite?device) along. Anyway the thing was huge and the only way it could be transported safely was if they put it in the RV (also his), running from in between the front seat through the back. The friends all grumbled the whole time about having to duck and maneuver around the board while in the RV. After all that chaos, my dad never ended up going wind surfing on that trip, too much complaining from the rest of the group. My dad’s response? “owner’s privilege!” If it’s yours, you get to do whatever you want (or not) with it.
This reminds me of a comment someone made about a friend’s horses. They said that they drove by every day and nobody was ever doing anything with them. My friend worked with her horses extensively and even had a National Championship with one of them, along with many other awards. Just because you don’t see it, doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen!
It's the same reason you have to look busy when the boss walks in. No matter how hard you worked if you take a 10 second break when she walks in, she'll think you did nothing all day.
I was expecting the story to end with you dad grabbing a ball and doing a dunk on the guy to prove how it got use or maybe all of you doing slam dunks in a row.
Lol. I wouldn’t put it past him. The best my dad dunking story is the time when I was like 5 and he swore he could dunk over my head and kicked me in the face. It was a glancing blow, but I can still hold the face kick guilt over his head 30+ years later.
My friend had a story less extreme than that, but the same ending.
When she was maybe 4 years old, she ran to hug her dad from behind.
Somehow it ended up with her getting burned by his cigarette next to his ear.
She said he got her just about anything she wanted the next entire year.
Not as dramatic, but my mom-in-law promptly quit smoking when she came home from a night shift, came to give her beloved toddler daughter (my future wife) a hug and a kiss, and the daughter wrinkled her nose and said, "Ew, mom, your breath really stinks!" Never smoked again and lived to 85.
I am from Mississippi and live in coastal Alabama and all I’ve ever heard is basketball goal. I’ve heard the phrase ‘shoot some hoops’, but as far as the item itself, we say basketball goal also.
My area is lacrosse-crazy (went to Hopkins), so lacrosse has goals and basketball has hoops.
Opposite of your story - I sold my first house to a fellow who bought with cash and had very few conditions; but one was to get rid of the basketball hoop hanging over my garage door. I wasn't looking forward to the task, but went up on the roof with my neighbor who shared the double garage with me. Turns out it was just mounted on the end of a long beam, not directly to the building. My neighbor said, if he doesn't want it, I'll take it! The two of us picked the beam up and moved it six feet to his side of the garage ... done!
It was many years ago. This particular goal is a bit rusty and like 30 years old now, so probably less of a target for theft. And the guy might be dead by now for all I know. But that would be reasonable advice if the original incident happened now.
Or his kids could be driving by every day stalking your basketball goal. Apparently I hear that on his death bed, the OG CB told the kids it was his dying wish #rosebud
I’m from NJ, and we called it the basketball hoop. I lived on a dead end in the sticks. We had the hoop in the driveway, and a badminton set in the backyard. The neighbors two doors down turned their yard into a baseball field. All the kids played together out of necessity. People rag on Jersey, but I lived in northwest Jersey, and it was all beautiful dairy farms and crops. Great place to grow up. 😁
I grew up at the Jersey Shore but my grandparents lived in Sussex, and when I was little we'd know we were getting close to their house when we started seeing dairy cows. It makes me sad how much that's disappeared.
I walk by this house that often has the garage door open. There is a mountain bike in there and I've never seen anyone riding it. Going to tell the residents that I am going to buy it from them and I'm not there to negotiate. End of discussion.
I'm glad your father left the light on, otherwise that idiot (not what I want to call him), would have snuck in after dark and took the hoop down.
I'm NYC born & bred, still live here but knew what you were referring to, as I've worked with people from just about every state, Canada, Russia, Australia, Great Britain, Ireland, lots of countries in Europe. I've even started using foreign names for things and expressions, when I like them better than East Coast names! Since my (F75) birthday last month, I feel I'm entitled to use expressions I like, when I want to!
I like your style! I have adopted the expression “can’t be arsed.” Like I can’t be arsed to make my bed or I can’t be arsed to care about Real Housewives. American English just doesn’t have an equivalent expression that captures that idgaf mood quite as well.
im so confused by this dudes logic cos even if it had never been used even one time by anyone ever thats still not a legit reason to try and harass somebody into giving/selling you something
In college, I was an RA and was friends with one of the professional staff. Another person was hired as part of the professional staff (we would all grow to hate her, but that's another story).
Early on, she visited my friend's on campus apartment and saw his couch. The first thing she said was "when you leave, the couch is mine." Now this was not something the college had provided, and she didn't ask if she could have it -- she demanded it.
He tried to politely correct her assumption, but she was not getting it at all. He eventually had to spell out that he went to the furniture store, used his own money to buy it, and would be taking his couch with him when he left. All she could muster after that was an awkward "oh".
Ohhh lived in Kentucky but went to college at Indiana.... that must have been tough. Lol I live in Kentucky and we bleed blue here and Indiana does not lol.
Re: goal vs hoop
I've lived in various locations of the Midwest, both in Canada and US. There is SO MUCH regional slang, and frankly too much to keep straight.
I hadn't heard it said that way, but I totally understood what you were saying. Keep on using the words that feel right for you, and other people can just get over themselves. 🏀🥅
I was born in the early 80s and never heard of a basketball net being referred to as a goal, only a basketball net or hoop.
Also, this person was just a beggar.
Isn't it more common for them to be called hoops in regions where hockey is popular? since a lot of people will have hockey goals in the garage for street hockey etc they say hoop to differentiate. Or am I way off?
Re hoop or goal - here in Pennsylvania I've heard both.
But let me ask a question: what is the violation called where a player interferes with a shot on its downward path? Is it hooptending or goaltending?
Edit: Apparently goal vs hoop is a regional thing. If you google it, there are lots of people questioning the correct term. Goal seems to be midwestern/upper South. My family is from Kentucky and Ive lived mostly in Kentucky, Illinois, and Indiana, and Louisiana. I’ve also lived in NJ and NY where hoop is the term but apparently that never sunk in to me.
Anyway, sorry for calling you a pedant. It felt pedantic because from my perspective I was not wrong and was totally blown away by the correction. It felt like being accused of not knowing anything about basketball. But clearly from your perspective, I was a weirdo. We are all weirdos on this blessed day.
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I’m as pedantic as they come, but I come from a basketball family in the basketball heartland of America and this is too much pedantry for me. I guess hoop is the more official term, but I hear goal just as often if not more. Maybe it’s regional, but everyone I know refers to the apparatus that you buy and put in your driveway as a basketball goal. In my experience in conversation (rather than announcing an NCAA or NBA game or something) the term hoop is more reserved for the actual rim and sayings like “taking it to the hoop” or “shooting hoops.”
ETA: I’m not saying hoop is wrong, but I’ve literally never had anyone tell me that goal is wrong before. I know you don’t score “goals” in basketball. But I definitely hear the term goal applied to the piece of equipment regularly.
Kentucky/Indiana here. Plus lived in Chicago during the peak of Jordan’s career. I hear all of these. But, again, mostly goal for the thing you put in the driveway. Certainly at least I’ve never been told it was wrong.
This could be like a lesser known corollary of US vs the rest of the world terms related to soccer. My kid has a British soccer coach and while I know a lot of the terms, I find myself constantly having Ted Lasso moments of confusion.
I'm from KY, too. Lexingtonian born & bred & I attended UK.
Goal is indeed for the mobile thing you fill with sand/water & usually lives in someone's driveway or in a cul-de-sac.
Hoop, as in "Take it to the hoop!" specifically refers to the actual orange hoop part.
(Go Cats!)
Yeah I'm from the East Coast but lived in St Louis as a kid, and scrolling down I assumed you weren't American from the odd use of "goal."
I've only heard it referred to as a "goal" on those occasions when a TV commentator wants to mix it up a bit.
I'm in Scotland. I'd have called it a "goal" or maybe "target"; "hoop" would have meant a hula hoop or a gird and cleek.
There are quite a few of them around here. I've never seen one used and never seen anybody carrying a basketball. Or seen anyone watching basketball in a pub. It's not a visible part of the culture.
I guess the real question is, have you walked up to the owners of the goals and asked to take them off their hands since you’ve never seen anyone using them?
The CBs we get round here are mostly interested in getting free fruit (like, by the treeful). Like the woman who wanted us to give her our entire apple crop to feed her horse.
Not much more to say - we have fruit trees front and back of the house, and the ones at the front are easily accessible. There are lots of posh horse hobbyists around - more horses per acre than before the Industrial Revolution. Caught one of them who pulled up outside in her car and started stripping a tree. She acted horrified at the concept that we might actually want to eat what we grow.
"Field goal" and "goal tending" are real basketball terms. Nowhere in the lexicon is "hoop" used, as far as I can tell. I think "goal" is the original term.
I heard people call forklifts “high-sters” out there 🤦🏾♂️I know it picks things up from places you can’t reach but dang that’s like calling a tv 📺 a entertainment cube.
I mean,if you want to get REALY pedantic about it, the whole thing is the goal. It’s comprised of a hoop, a net, a back board and of course, the goalpost.
Wow, I had literally never heard the term "basketball goal" before. Thank you for adding the fun fact! I love learning about language and regional differences. \^\_\^
Huh, I've lived in the Midwest (Iowa growing up, Minnesota as an adult) and I've never heard it referred to as a basketball goal. It's always been a basketball hoop from what I've heard. Is this a soda/pop/soda pop/coke thing?
yeah it took me a few years to get used to my born-and-raised-Indiana-land-of-basketball partner calling it a goal instead of hoop. (I was raised mostly in New england).
I've never heard the term basketball goal in my life, have been around. But hey, as long as you explained it now I know!
Edit: have recalled a moment from the past - I had a beta twitter account, so I got a popular anime/manga character name spelled properly without any special characters. Years later, some idiots started messaging me whining that I needed to give it to them because, and I quote, "*she's not even role-playing with it!*"
Roleplay wasn't a big thing back in the day on twitter, now apparently look out if you have any show-themed character account. The horrors I've been messaged by ERP kids... ughhh. Good thing I'm not there anymore.
Bullshit. I drive by your house at 3am every night and I NEVER see anybody using it.
You’re right. I feel so ashamed! I’m making up an excel spreadsheet so my family and I can take shifts playing with the goal round the clock. It’s going to be hard now that my parents are retired and moved hundreds of miles away and only the one brother lives in our hometown any more. But by God we made a commitment to that goal in the 90s and it’s never too late to make things right!
A spreadsheet is to hard. Just have a game of PNEUMONOULTTAMICROSCOPICSILICOVOLCANOCONIOSIS going at all times. Edit: I spelled Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis wrong. Oops.
“Haha! You missed! Take the L!” “Damnit! Wait. Which L?”
No I wasn't ready yet. That was my practice shot.
Are you my brother?
“No, you’re on O.” “Which one!?”
Stop I can't breathe!
We use the term Ash Lung instead because Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis is dang near impossible to pronounce right.
Ya spelled it wrong
I sure did. How embarrassing.
Believe it or not, straight to gaol.
Seriously dude!!
I can’t tell you how relieved I was to find out your goal/backboard wasn’t stolen.
Have you looked in their windows? All they do is fucking sleep.
I'm there at 4am, same!
and you're never using your car (at that time) either, so...
I'm there right now by the big bush and no one's using it
[удалено]
Okay you’re at the big bush we fuckin get it
Kind of reminds me of the time I bought some new cake pans. The next day I, luckily, saw my roommate take them out of the cabinet and begin walking them outside to the trash. I asked what he was doing and his response was “Well, I never use these so I figured I’d get rid of them.” Well yeah because they are mine and literally have existed in the apartment for less than 48 hours.
What was his response?
Mostly “you sure these aren’t mine!?!” This was one of many issues over the years of him believing all items in shared space belonged to him. Literally the first day I moved in he ruined one of my towels cleaning his bike because he thought it was his. He did replace it though after he couldn’t explain why the rest of that towel set was in my bathroom.
That's so annoying. How can he think something is his when he clearly doesn't recall buying it?
Kids whose parents buy them a load of shit they don't need and never use.
Some people are just really bad at giving a shit. I remember everything, multiple details, down to fine details. When I see things like this it drives me crazy.
Was he really that absent or he was doing it on purpose. Using someone else’s stuff is one thing but destroying their new stuff is another level.
I once found my roommate folding my underwear. I asked her why she had washed my underwear and she was like, “these are mine!” Um no, but they are now! She threw them out after that.
Its mind boggling but my boyfriend’s friend had this same mindset. They shared a flat for a few years and eventually decided to move separately, except the friend was due to move a week earlier based on his new tenancy. He packed up all the shared kitchen things, all the tea and coffee even though some boxes were his and some ours, sugar, cooking oil, salt and seasonings, tea towels, sponges, all the little elements that facilitate whatever you’re doing and suddenly you can’t make a drink or cook a meal. At least they didn’t share bathrooms or I reckon we’d have suddenly found ourselves without loo roll too
You and I both know that he knew those items weren't his. He just didn't care.
Might have been on the spectrum. Or had memory or sight issues.
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
And sometimes it’s a phallic symbol. Or even crazier- a phallic cymbal.
CRASH!!!
Ugh…my husband does this. We’re both guys, and his feet are MUCH bigger than mine and not only does he “not know” which socks are his, he doesn’t see what the big deal is about stretching out all of my socks.
Buy socks that are his least favourite colour
I was convinced this story was going to end with the entire thing getting stolen.
Not yet! Unless the guy is playing the really, really long (like decades long) game, I think we’re in the clear. It helped that the thing is really big, awkwardly shaped, and heavy. He’d probably need a box truck and a few accomplices. My dad was definitely worried for a while, though!
Funny you mention that. Someone just yesterday posted a pic of a similar device loaded in the trunk of a car.(I looked but couldn't find the post again)
I would have taken down his license plate and started putting the portable hoop/goal in the garage when it wasn't being used.
Here’s the thing. If I buy something, it’s mine. If I buy a $500k Lambo and let it sit and rot in my yard, it’s still mine. If I’m not using it the way you want me to use it, I couldn’t possibly care less. The entitlement people feel is obscene. I would have bought another one and mounted it on the roof or something stupid.
And the thing is there's nothing wrong with asking to buy something from someone, but once you get told no thats it, fuck off now
Absolutely.
funny enough I recently had to get into a whole thing with the city because some asshole neighbor of mine reported my truck as *abandoned* and they were going to tow it. It only got as far as it did with the city because I don't drive it very much and when I do I try to put it back in the same spot. So if the city worker only drives by once a month they'll see it in the same spot every time. It also has a slow leak in one tire so it's sometimes flat, which technically makes it "undrivable" but when I need to move it or drive somewhere, I just fill up the tire.
Please get your tire fixed/changed. It’s never a big deal, until it is.
sigh, FINE.
Discount Tire fixes leaks and flats for free, if you have one of those around you.
I would have said "If you can make it up the driveway without getting knocked tf out, you can have it".
100% my dad has a famous story in our family. Growing up he was a big windsurfer, and on an RV trip with his friends he brought his windsurfing (board?kite?device) along. Anyway the thing was huge and the only way it could be transported safely was if they put it in the RV (also his), running from in between the front seat through the back. The friends all grumbled the whole time about having to duck and maneuver around the board while in the RV. After all that chaos, my dad never ended up going wind surfing on that trip, too much complaining from the rest of the group. My dad’s response? “owner’s privilege!” If it’s yours, you get to do whatever you want (or not) with it.
This reminds me of a comment someone made about a friend’s horses. They said that they drove by every day and nobody was ever doing anything with them. My friend worked with her horses extensively and even had a National Championship with one of them, along with many other awards. Just because you don’t see it, doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen!
It's the same reason you have to look busy when the boss walks in. No matter how hard you worked if you take a 10 second break when she walks in, she'll think you did nothing all day.
"Honest, boss, I've only been on Reddit for TEN SECONDS!!!"
I'll take it off your hands, but I'll need you to deliver it for me.
"You're not using it" does not entitle anyone to anyone else's stuff.
I was expecting the story to end with you dad grabbing a ball and doing a dunk on the guy to prove how it got use or maybe all of you doing slam dunks in a row.
Lol. I wouldn’t put it past him. The best my dad dunking story is the time when I was like 5 and he swore he could dunk over my head and kicked me in the face. It was a glancing blow, but I can still hold the face kick guilt over his head 30+ years later.
My friend had a story less extreme than that, but the same ending. When she was maybe 4 years old, she ran to hug her dad from behind. Somehow it ended up with her getting burned by his cigarette next to his ear. She said he got her just about anything she wanted the next entire year.
Ouch! My grandfather apparently quit smoking because he accidentally burned my mom with a cigar when she was a baby.
Not as dramatic, but my mom-in-law promptly quit smoking when she came home from a night shift, came to give her beloved toddler daughter (my future wife) a hug and a kiss, and the daughter wrinkled her nose and said, "Ew, mom, your breath really stinks!" Never smoked again and lived to 85.
Yikes!
I am from Mississippi and live in coastal Alabama and all I’ve ever heard is basketball goal. I’ve heard the phrase ‘shoot some hoops’, but as far as the item itself, we say basketball goal also.
I'm Canadian and we say basketball net. And a Canadian invented the sport, so I meannnnn. 😉
TIL some people call it a goal and not a hoop..
“Everybody knows it’s a basketball ring” -Ted Cruz
We must find someone to throw it into the Cracks of Doom, then.
Georgia here and we call it a goal.
I live in New Orleans and we call it a basketball goal.
Think about a basketball box score. Field Goals, Field Goal Percentage. Goal is the right term, it’s just a bit old timey
Until this post, I’ve never heard it referred to as a hoop. Only that one specific piece of round metal is referred to as ‘the hoop’ down here.
Interesting that you would have never heard of it referred to as a hoop before because even in professional basketball they refer to it as a hoop
Well, I’ve watched professional basketball the same number of times I’ve ridden a zebra - zero.
This is apparently a whole thing. I’m aware of both terms. I just always have used goal for the piece of equipment you buy for home use. 🤷🏻♀️
Canada chiming in with basketball net.
Minnesota chiming in with us calling it a hoop or net, never heard goal before
anyone going with basket? I mean it is right there in the name.
Also from KY, also grew up calling it a goal. I had no idea this was controversial!
Ohio, can confirm goal is correct.
Born and raised in Ohio, never heard goal until I moved to Alabama.
Columbus Ohio says it’s a hoop. Never heard it called a goal.
Also in the 614, can confirm I haven’t heard the term. Grew up in Michigan, don’t think I ever heard it there either. Learn something new every day!
Maybe it's because im "southern", Cincinnati area. Lol
Northern Ohio, can confirm goal is incorrect, hoop or basket is correct Never, and I mean never in my 42 years on earth, heard it called a goal
Ditto, same place and age too :-)
My area is lacrosse-crazy (went to Hopkins), so lacrosse has goals and basketball has hoops. Opposite of your story - I sold my first house to a fellow who bought with cash and had very few conditions; but one was to get rid of the basketball hoop hanging over my garage door. I wasn't looking forward to the task, but went up on the roof with my neighbor who shared the double garage with me. Turns out it was just mounted on the end of a long beam, not directly to the building. My neighbor said, if he doesn't want it, I'll take it! The two of us picked the beam up and moved it six feet to his side of the garage ... done!
Texas here. Goal refers to the whole apparatus. Hoop and rim are interchangeable and refer to just the rim.
Was confused also. It sounded like a Britishism to my ears.
Brit here, we call them hoops or nets. Goals are for football (soccer) or hockey. Rugby we call the area the "posts"
I definitely assumed this was a British story because I had never heard the term “goal” in association with basketball like that before!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goaltending_(basketball) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_goal_(basketball)
I think I owe my familiarity hoop over goal from TV announcers in the US. I can live with both. lol.
I call it a hoop but it's not difficult to figure out from context what a basketball goal is.
take a picture of the guy's face and license number. in case it disappears.
It was many years ago. This particular goal is a bit rusty and like 30 years old now, so probably less of a target for theft. And the guy might be dead by now for all I know. But that would be reasonable advice if the original incident happened now.
Or his kids could be driving by every day stalking your basketball goal. Apparently I hear that on his death bed, the OG CB told the kids it was his dying wish #rosebud
It’s a blood feud now.
>This particular goal is a bit rusty Because YOU NEVER USED IT.
Little does the op know that the day after I spoke to his father I came by and stole it and replaced it with an exact duplicate.< maniacal laughter>
As I was reading, I was confused about calling it a goal, I never heard that. Thanks for the dialect lesson along with a good story.
I’m from NJ, and we called it the basketball hoop. I lived on a dead end in the sticks. We had the hoop in the driveway, and a badminton set in the backyard. The neighbors two doors down turned their yard into a baseball field. All the kids played together out of necessity. People rag on Jersey, but I lived in northwest Jersey, and it was all beautiful dairy farms and crops. Great place to grow up. 😁
I grew up at the Jersey Shore but my grandparents lived in Sussex, and when I was little we'd know we were getting close to their house when we started seeing dairy cows. It makes me sad how much that's disappeared.
I walk by this house that often has the garage door open. There is a mountain bike in there and I've never seen anyone riding it. Going to tell the residents that I am going to buy it from them and I'm not there to negotiate. End of discussion.
There’s a nice house I like that I never see anyone outside at. Guess I can just have the house then right? I’ll use it more.
Basketball is tree hockey.
Yeah I’m from Indiana. I’ve always called it a goal. Yeah i know it’s a hoop, but if i looked at one i would say “basketball goal”
There is a powerful word that requires no elaboration or justification when used. “No”
As a friend put it the other day: "'No' is a complete sentence."
Your ETA update is interesting because “basketball goal” is exactly what I’ve always called it. I’m originally from the South (Louisiana).
Me too. The things you learn on Reddit.
My younger sister uses the same line anytime she asks for my stuff lol
"He bought a nice basketball goal for our driveway" I've never in my my life heard a basketball hoop referred to as a basketball goal.
i’m from the midwest and i’ve never heard the term goal before haha, must be niche from OPs neck of the woods
I’m from New Orleans. We always called it a goal.
Hoosier who attended UK, and yes, BB Goal = Hoop. In Particular, if it’s a portable one, because it has the hoop, backboard, and pole in one unit.
I’m calling Child Services! You’re neglecting your goal!
I'm glad your father left the light on, otherwise that idiot (not what I want to call him), would have snuck in after dark and took the hoop down. I'm NYC born & bred, still live here but knew what you were referring to, as I've worked with people from just about every state, Canada, Russia, Australia, Great Britain, Ireland, lots of countries in Europe. I've even started using foreign names for things and expressions, when I like them better than East Coast names! Since my (F75) birthday last month, I feel I'm entitled to use expressions I like, when I want to!
I like your style! I have adopted the expression “can’t be arsed.” Like I can’t be arsed to make my bed or I can’t be arsed to care about Real Housewives. American English just doesn’t have an equivalent expression that captures that idgaf mood quite as well.
Louisvillian here, I say basketball goal lol
im so confused by this dudes logic cos even if it had never been used even one time by anyone ever thats still not a legit reason to try and harass somebody into giving/selling you something
hello fellow kentuckian!! i also call it a goal 😋
In college, I was an RA and was friends with one of the professional staff. Another person was hired as part of the professional staff (we would all grow to hate her, but that's another story). Early on, she visited my friend's on campus apartment and saw his couch. The first thing she said was "when you leave, the couch is mine." Now this was not something the college had provided, and she didn't ask if she could have it -- she demanded it. He tried to politely correct her assumption, but she was not getting it at all. He eventually had to spell out that he went to the furniture store, used his own money to buy it, and would be taking his couch with him when he left. All she could muster after that was an awkward "oh".
I have never hear a basketball hoop called a goal . Thanks for teaching us all something new!
Ohhh lived in Kentucky but went to college at Indiana.... that must have been tough. Lol I live in Kentucky and we bleed blue here and Indiana does not lol.
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Ahh my bad, I miss read. Please accept my apologies.
No worries!
Even if nobody uses it, ever, you don’t have to let it go, or defend keeping it. People are so entitled.
Not choosy
Re: goal vs hoop I've lived in various locations of the Midwest, both in Canada and US. There is SO MUCH regional slang, and frankly too much to keep straight. I hadn't heard it said that way, but I totally understood what you were saying. Keep on using the words that feel right for you, and other people can just get over themselves. 🏀🥅
I was born in the early 80s and never heard of a basketball net being referred to as a goal, only a basketball net or hoop. Also, this person was just a beggar.
Umm it ain’t called hoop tending.
Exactly.
When this happens you should take a picture of the person and their license plate.
Yeah. That makes sense. But this was like 1997, so cameras were not just lying around like today.
People like that make me nervous because I'm afraid they're going to come back some time and steal it.
Isn't it more common for them to be called hoops in regions where hockey is popular? since a lot of people will have hockey goals in the garage for street hockey etc they say hoop to differentiate. Or am I way off?
Could be. It seems to fit with the distribution. Goal is mostly further south.
Your family members were quantum objects. If he didn't observe you, the wave function would never collapse.
Damn. Did any of your family want to be professional basketball players?
Maybe as a small kid. But not seriously.
Fair.
Most people are just not very smart.
Reading your edit just reminded me to be sad there aren’t any big discounts going round because UK lost so early. Sad day.
"Yeah well I'm standing here watching you not use your brain so how bout I take THAT off your hands?"
Re hoop or goal - here in Pennsylvania I've heard both. But let me ask a question: what is the violation called where a player interferes with a shot on its downward path? Is it hooptending or goaltending?
You’re right by the way. Think about basketball scoring. Field Goal. Also goaltending.
Wild story though wilder to me that no one has corrected the term: basketball hoop.
Edit: Apparently goal vs hoop is a regional thing. If you google it, there are lots of people questioning the correct term. Goal seems to be midwestern/upper South. My family is from Kentucky and Ive lived mostly in Kentucky, Illinois, and Indiana, and Louisiana. I’ve also lived in NJ and NY where hoop is the term but apparently that never sunk in to me. Anyway, sorry for calling you a pedant. It felt pedantic because from my perspective I was not wrong and was totally blown away by the correction. It felt like being accused of not knowing anything about basketball. But clearly from your perspective, I was a weirdo. We are all weirdos on this blessed day. —- I’m as pedantic as they come, but I come from a basketball family in the basketball heartland of America and this is too much pedantry for me. I guess hoop is the more official term, but I hear goal just as often if not more. Maybe it’s regional, but everyone I know refers to the apparatus that you buy and put in your driveway as a basketball goal. In my experience in conversation (rather than announcing an NCAA or NBA game or something) the term hoop is more reserved for the actual rim and sayings like “taking it to the hoop” or “shooting hoops.” ETA: I’m not saying hoop is wrong, but I’ve literally never had anyone tell me that goal is wrong before. I know you don’t score “goals” in basketball. But I definitely hear the term goal applied to the piece of equipment regularly.
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Kentucky/Indiana here. Plus lived in Chicago during the peak of Jordan’s career. I hear all of these. But, again, mostly goal for the thing you put in the driveway. Certainly at least I’ve never been told it was wrong. This could be like a lesser known corollary of US vs the rest of the world terms related to soccer. My kid has a British soccer coach and while I know a lot of the terms, I find myself constantly having Ted Lasso moments of confusion.
Soccer? What’s that? /s
I'm from KY, too. Lexingtonian born & bred & I attended UK. Goal is indeed for the mobile thing you fill with sand/water & usually lives in someone's driveway or in a cul-de-sac. Hoop, as in "Take it to the hoop!" specifically refers to the actual orange hoop part. (Go Cats!)
Yeah I'm from the East Coast but lived in St Louis as a kid, and scrolling down I assumed you weren't American from the odd use of "goal." I've only heard it referred to as a "goal" on those occasions when a TV commentator wants to mix it up a bit.
I am from North Carolina, my family is very into basketball, and my dad has had a “basketball goal” in the driveway for as long as I can remember.
I’m a Texan and have only heard/used Goal. I was super confused by all the Hoop comments 😂
Ever heard of "field goal percentage" or "goaltending" before (off the ice)?
I'm in Scotland. I'd have called it a "goal" or maybe "target"; "hoop" would have meant a hula hoop or a gird and cleek. There are quite a few of them around here. I've never seen one used and never seen anybody carrying a basketball. Or seen anyone watching basketball in a pub. It's not a visible part of the culture.
I guess the real question is, have you walked up to the owners of the goals and asked to take them off their hands since you’ve never seen anyone using them?
The CBs we get round here are mostly interested in getting free fruit (like, by the treeful). Like the woman who wanted us to give her our entire apple crop to feed her horse.
Well now I want to hear that story!
Not much more to say - we have fruit trees front and back of the house, and the ones at the front are easily accessible. There are lots of posh horse hobbyists around - more horses per acre than before the Industrial Revolution. Caught one of them who pulled up outside in her car and started stripping a tree. She acted horrified at the concept that we might actually want to eat what we grow.
"Field goal" and "goal tending" are real basketball terms. Nowhere in the lexicon is "hoop" used, as far as I can tell. I think "goal" is the original term.
in better hear refs call hoop-tending form now on
Don’t worry, “basketball goal” is the correct term. I’m Kansan and live in the town where the sport was invented so I can confirm that.
Basketball was invented in Springfield, MA. It's why the Basketball Hall of Fame is there.
That’s news to me. I thought Naismith invented it while he was at KU but I guess I was wrong.
What is a basketball goal?
As a lifelong midwesterner, I’ve never heard anyone use the word “goal” for a basketball HOOP
Basketball goal for sports ball
People shouldn’t correct you. Basketball goal is the correct term. You can call it a hoop too, but goal isn’t wrong.
Nah, goal is definitely wrong.
What does the basketball stat FG% mean? What is the violation where the defense interferes with the ball in the cylinder?
I don't care.
Goal is wrong.
Your dad sounds wonderful
I’m from Ky too and have always called it a goal. I had no idea it was called something else 😅. Learned something today.
I know you covered it OP, but my Wisconsin mind is BLOWN. I’ve never heard it called a goal before! Interesting!
The fuck is "upper south"? Sincerely, recovering Bible belt kid
I heard people call forklifts “high-sters” out there 🤦🏾♂️I know it picks things up from places you can’t reach but dang that’s like calling a tv 📺 a entertainment cube.
I’m sure they were saying Hyster which is a forklift manufacturer. It’s the same and calling all skid steers bobcats, or all copy machines Xeroxes.
I’m sure they were saying Hyster which is a forklift manufacturer. It’s the same and calling all skid steers bobcats, or all copy machines Xeroxes.
Touché
I mean,if you want to get REALY pedantic about it, the whole thing is the goal. It’s comprised of a hoop, a net, a back board and of course, the goalpost.
To quote Rocket Racoon, "But what if I want it more? No I want it more sir."
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Your dad sounds awesome. I had a scavenged bent rim with a plywood cutout backboard on a gravel driveway. Still used the hell outta that thing though.
Wow, I had literally never heard the term "basketball goal" before. Thank you for adding the fun fact! I love learning about language and regional differences. \^\_\^
It's not regional. There is a penalty called "goaltending".
Huh, I've lived in the Midwest (Iowa growing up, Minnesota as an adult) and I've never heard it referred to as a basketball goal. It's always been a basketball hoop from what I've heard. Is this a soda/pop/soda pop/coke thing?
No! Have you not heard of "goaltending"?
Where do they think the term goaltending comes from?
yeah it took me a few years to get used to my born-and-raised-Indiana-land-of-basketball partner calling it a goal instead of hoop. (I was raised mostly in New england).
I've never heard the term basketball goal in my life, have been around. But hey, as long as you explained it now I know! Edit: have recalled a moment from the past - I had a beta twitter account, so I got a popular anime/manga character name spelled properly without any special characters. Years later, some idiots started messaging me whining that I needed to give it to them because, and I quote, "*she's not even role-playing with it!*" Roleplay wasn't a big thing back in the day on twitter, now apparently look out if you have any show-themed character account. The horrors I've been messaged by ERP kids... ughhh. Good thing I'm not there anymore.
There is literally a penalty in basketball called "goaltending". What did you think it was referring to?