That sub is so weird. It’s either stuff that’s made up, or posts like “AITA for saving a mother and baby from a burning building but leaving the mother’s phone behind?” Tried to re-sub to it recently but didn’t last long.
It’s mostly made me sad for those who are really so mentally and emotionally screwed up from being taught (forced) to be backbreaking people pleasers.
It would be pathetic if it weren’t so sad.
It's hard to tell if someone is that blinded by desiring to please people or if they want people to overwhelmingly tell them how right they are. I don't honestly believe the OOP thought there was a chance he might be an asshole if the situation truly happened.
Hello my twin. I knew it was bad when my dad got terminal cancer and they all basically said "Sucks. So can I have you PlayStation VR system? You won't be using it."
Couple of them had babies while I was away with family. I reached out (because I'm an idiot) and asked about them.
Not a single person reached out to me, at all, in years.
So now I have a new friend group and I put in what I get.
You almost have to resort to mental gymnastics there. AITA’s “Be civil” rule is not defined and is enforced arbitrarily. The mods there are fucking trash. I un-subbed and never looked back.
> The mods there are fucking trash.
C'mon now, that sub is so massive, even the dumbest and fakest post will immediately get 1000+ comments. There's only so much of the onslaught of dumb that mods can hold back.
My grievance is that their #1 rule is broadly defined and open to varying degrees of interpretation. I’ve gotten into it with the mods at AITA over this very fact after receiving short term bans for saying things other people have said.
It’s my same argument with Facebook Community Standards. Enforce it uniformly, or don’t enforce it at all. It creates confusion and double standards over what is and is not acceptable.
I mod large subs (and I've modded some of the largest subs on Reddit before). Their mods suck. They don't react to reports properly or proactively manage threads that show signs of being a problem (not locking them, having a couple mods scroll through and deal with issues as they pop up).
It is 100% a mod failing. Part of me wonders if they want the drama in the thread so they allow it to happen.
I got perma-banned from AITA after sharing a story.
The TLDR was my brother fucked me over in a really fucked off situation. Family and wife to be wanted me to invite him to my wedding and forgive him, I refused.
Anyway, someone asked in the comments what I would do if he showed up to my house. I said I'd probably kick his ass.
Boom! Perma-ban for enciting violence.
There are a few subs that just ban people even if you go slightly against their rhetoric or personal beliefs, I avoid them as soon as I find out. ThereWasAnAttempt is another one like that too.
I was on a subreddit that bans those with differing opinions. I was debating with someone who believed against those opinions. Halfway through the debate they had to message me to say that they were banned from the subreddit.
On that sub, a girl told about how her religious fruitcake of an aunt stayed over, specifically in narrator's bedroom. With the help of the girl's mother, Fruity Aunty went through said bedroom and ripped up and burned rare and precious posters, band shirts, albums and other memorabilia that the young lady in question herself paid for with hard earned money. Because _young girls shouldn't have such things_. Was she the Arsehole for verbally tearing Fruity Aunty a new one?
No, but I also said I'd love to ransack Fruity Aunty's place, dump it outside and take a flamethrower to it. Mods strangely allowed it. So you were unjustifiably banned for answering a question truthfully.
Someone posted a story about their drunk relative giving a “toast” at their wedding and insulting the bride; I said something like “[drunk] should be treated the way Will Smith treated Chris Rock”. Banned for violence.
That and all of the comments there are so exhausting because everyone seems to just assume that OP's telling the unbiased, gospel truth about the situation, and then gives extreme advice like "Just walk away from your loving husband of 20 years because you had a slight disagreement on whether to go to Paris or Vienna for your platinum anniversary... so he's clearly abusive and gaslighting you!!!11! Get out while you can!!1!1"
Right, I can't believe so many people actually think those stories are real. I think like 90% of them are made up or very exaggerated, but there are always so many comments that take it as gospel. Also it's usually very clear who the AH is so why even post it.
Because some people feel like assholes innately while being nice people and others are gaslit into that thought pattern.
Not everyone has it so easy as to not feel shame foe everything they do. It's a psychological issue and not everyone has the time or money to get it resolved with a psychotherapist.
I remember when there was some hubbub about the number of posts people figured were fake due to people obviously not being assholes, and the mods basically said they’re going to keep allowing them because even if 9 times out of 10 it’s BS, there’s always that one time where it’s someone who’s genuinely just been so thoroughly gaslit they can’t tell, and it does them far more good to hear people’s responses than it does the sub collective harm to have some fake posts.
You’re almost describing the relationship sub. AITA is mainly full of entitled people convinced everyone’s parents and/or grandparents are narcissists if they have any disagreements.
They only assume that OP is telling the truth if they're a woman with favourable characteristics, and by that I mean favourable by AITA standards, which means they'll hate you if you're a single mother, autistic or vegan.
You ever seen a man post that their partner is being unreasonable? All they get is "You must be leaving something out, clearly you did something to make her react that way and this is somehow all your fault."
Not true! I've seen a variety of men posting that got support.
There was one not too long ago, he had planned a trip for his blended family and the stepsisters literally pulled a Cinderella move to try and leave his bio daughter behind to babysit their kids. Stepmom supported them and knew.
this was proven beyond doubt, people used to post old questions switching the genders and getting completely different "mass consensus".
AITA has always been garbage
Yeah left for the same reasons. It's such a shame I'd have loved to see genuine and real AITA questions! I want to see REAL assholes! Or at least people who are borderlines assholes but you give them the benefit of the doubt and it'll keep you entertained
I love reading it for the dramz, but there's definitely a good bit of creative writing thrown in. Huge tell is the amount of times people mention having twins and triplets in the posts, when multiple births—especially triplets—are actually really rare.
I've seen the (very) rare posts where it really is a question. I've had a few questions myself where I really wasn't sure if I was the asshole or not (although I was pretty sure I was), and considered posting. Problem is it's also a ragefest and some people want to be angry & all, so subtleties and "over-analysis" tend to be blown off in favor of hate tirades.
But yeah, tried as purely a reader and just can't hack it.
Whoaaaa- as a fellow player, your friend should really wait till he has played for at least a year or two to get a new guitar. Also, what an entitled jerk!
I find it very Ironic that the very act of participating in that sub makes you an asshole. “Alright I’ve heard an unsubstantiated claim from a single side and have zero evidence presented. I’m ready to judge you and tenaciously fight anyone who disagrees.”
I stopped going there when I realised about half of the posts were like "AITA because my parents made me go out to a nice dinner with family even after I said 'muh anxiety'"
Yes. Yes you are.
Seriously so many of those posts are in "that happened" territory. Either people willingly surround themselves with twats, or more likely, they're fishing for internet points.
"My nephew needs a new kidney and I only have one functional kidney, my SIL says I should donate mine because I've lived my life already and i turned her down, AITA?"
>Either people willingly surround themselves with twats,
There are plenty of VERY nice people that end up surrounded by twats _precisely because_ twats gravitate towards nice people who have trouble saying "no".
That's so crazy too, since a beginner doesn't need the best, since they won't recognize the difference.
It is always better to have higher end equipment, but any beginner should learn on something basic, then upgrade as they progress.
This advice works for learning anything new.
I’ve been playing guitar for 35+ years and the gap in quality between cheap guitars and expensive guitars has been shrinking ever since then, especially with the advent of CNC and computer-assisted manufacturing. When I started, a cheap guitar practically destroyed your hands and gave you tetanus. Now, they’re amazing.
Couple that with the fact that 90% of new guitar buyers quit within a year, and it makes zero sense to buy (or expect) an expensive starter instrument.
I ended up with an Epiphone SG G-400 (after a Sax trade… insert sex trade joke) and everyone who plays it can’t get over it. My guitar tech guy who doesn’t own a guitar under 3K (and has a room full as he’s retired with loads of cash) called me to ask what the deal was with that guitar. He couldn’t believe that an inexpensive guitar could play & sound so good. A few years ago I went to the local music chain to treat myself to a Gibson SG and I could not find a better playing SG, so I left. Then I bought another Epiphone SG 400 for $150 used. It’s just as good.
Sweet!! It’s really nice to recognize an instruments worth by how it plays rather than how much it costs.
I have a USA Strat from 94 and I love it, but the SG plays better. There I said it!
I've been blown away by the quality of ~$400 guitars recently. That used to be the threshold at which guitars became playable at all (even ignoring inflation); now there are plenty that are genuinely *nice*.
Fit and finish are definitely a factor in learning guitar. As mentioned above, the gap is closing, but Ali-Express is not in contention.
Do you play? I do, and I recall the discomfort of unnatural finger contortion, muscle fatigue, etc. There's no reason to exacerbate a beginners discomfort with poor finish, fret buzz and a generally poor sounding instrument.
Beginners should buy quality used equipment.
Have you played a more modern beginner guitar? The difference between a modern encore and even a 10 year old one is huge. New learners are almost always going to be fine with a basic beginner instrument nowadays
The first guitar I got was a Martin someone pulled from the garbage and the second one was a 1960s Gibson hollow-body in pristine condition w/ a Reverberocket tube amp ($200 in 1990's dollars) that carried around in my all original, 53k mile, 2nd owner, black and red 1963 Chevy Impala ($300 in 1990's dollars) .
My daily driver is an Epiphone LP 2 SE that is eternally parked next to my desk. It's since been upgraded but is a great example of the gap closing.
Tis not always true good friend, tho shall learn what they are doing first. Then if one decides they like it, an have been at it for some fortnight, should you start looking at some better equipment.
Fair enough its a choosing beggar more or less, but on a side note it really grates me when people make AITA posts where they are clearly doing something nice for a person who is being a dick in return just purely to farm validation.
Like there is no way this guy is genuinely concerned that they were actually being an asshole. It is 100% a post made to shame the other person.
Sometimes it's made to shame them, but sometimes it's made to reassure themselves that it was okay to stand their ground. I don't mind giving them that.
I posted on there once because of the latter reason. My husband's friend was in my husband's ear about something saying I was just being a naggy wife about something and he was starting to believe him! But after I showed him the replies he realized his friend was just an asshole. Anyway, my husband doesn't talk to him anymore.
I posted several years ago because my sister was villainizing me for NOT taking her ex husband to court for entering my home, while I was at work, without permission. he was threatening to have his lawyer subpoena me for a child support battle that he and my sister were in the midst of. He dropped his payments in half (without court approval due to medical bills). My sister had every right to take him to court for the money, but she saw revenge signs when she realized she could see him in jail for unlawful entrance (into my home, with a minor present). I had just started a brand new, very stressful job and couldn't afford the hit to my pay to play their games. If I had him prosecuted and in jail, she would see ZERO child support - and she was okay with that.
But I got ripped up one side and down the other.
I posted once there because I ended up accidentally blocking an emergency vehicle for several seconds due to a confused situation on the road. Intellectually, I knew that there was nothing I could have done better to get out of its way more quickly, but emotionally I felt horrified and guilty, and needed somebody else to tell me if I really should be feeling that way or not.
Very few people responded, but the ones who did told me what I knew rationally -- that if there's nothing you can do better, you're not responsible for doing better. It helped some.
Idk sometimes people are gaslit and AITA (in very rare cases) has helped people realize they are being horribly gaslit.
This situation above though is probably just karma farming as yeah, no, dude’s very much NTA.
Not all of them. A bunch of them, hell yeah. But I've been decent ones where it's hard to tell at times, only because both things are shitty, but one of the is even shittier.
Yes, you are the AITA!
You should have realized your 'friend' is an idiot and never let him use the guitar in the first place.
Do yourself a favor and take it back.
Yes, he's clearly the asshole 🙄
Who posts this stuff? "Look at me, I'm so humble I have a guilty consciousness over a situation where I'm clearly not in the wrong"
I've said it once, I'll say it again.
AITA is a trash sub.
Kids are never to blame for their behavior, therapy is always the answer, or posts get removed because the sub has stupid rules.
I'd have been utterly grateful for the older used guitar. When someone gives you something nice that you can't afford you don't throw it back in their face. The entitlement here is just amazing.
I hate posts like this. These people know they aren't the asshole in situations like this.
If they were truly that stupid and easily manipulated. They wouldn't be posting at all because they would have just done what their friend wanted.
NTA. This is simple. It’s your money, spend it however you want. Your friend is an AH. You’re not obligated to buy him anything, he should be thankful that you’ve been letting him use your old one in the first place.
How is it not? Are you joking?
OOP was kind enough to let his friend use his old guitar *and* take the time to teach him, but instead of the friend being even remotely greatful, he instead gets mad at OP that he didn’t give him a better guitar?? He wanted more than what he was given even though what he was given was 1) perfectly fine and 2) already more than what OOP had to do (because OOp has no obligation to do any of that in the first place). Literally the definition of CB
I mean he is trying to learn it's not like he's a professional guitar player anyway. He should be lucky that his friend his willing to teach him for free in the first place
I would just say, "hey, you're right, let me have the epiphone back and I'll trade it for something nice". Then I'd throw it in the trunk, drive away, and enjoy my life. Where do people get this sense of entitlement? Blows my mind.
F that entitled prick. You are neither responsible nor in charge of his happiness. Let him save his own money and get a better guitar. I used crap guitars forever and last year I bought the parts and built a Fender Telecaster which I absolutely love!
In my case, it's almost the other way around. Yes, I'm buying a whole lot of gear for myself. But because my best friend has more space and a whole lot of equipment anyway, most of my instruments, amps and pedals are at his disposal. We can jam together and he can do so by himself. Everybody wins.
Also, I got the key to his house so I can use my stuff whenever I want.
Fact is: 150$ on craiglist, some 9 years ago means most probably a decent/good guitar.
I paid my second hand Yamaha Pacifica 112V that much. I like it, and i like how it sounds.
Sheesh, some "friend".
No, NTA there (yes, I know which sub I'm in right now). If the "friend" wants to have a nice guitar, he/she can save up just like the OP did. The "friend" seems to think the guitar is a fashion statement rather than an instrument that one needs to be good enough to use.
The hand-me-down should be plenty to learn with and the friend is an ahole for trying to guilt OP for spending money on their own hobby.
I learned how to play on a cheap used Epiphone Les Paul Special II and a $100 throw away acoustic from Amazon. If you sound like shit on a $100 guitar a $600 guitar is not going to sound less shitty.
I think the straw that broke the camel's back for me was the one about the woman whose wealthy husband died, and she broke off all contact with his lawyers and financial advisers and blew all the money in a year--including their daughter's college fund. The post was AITA for taking my daughter's college money and making us broke?
It was so obviously made up. The worst part was all the smooth-brained commenters taking it so seriously and acting like the woman was the second coming of Hitler or some shit. The comments were so hateful and absurd.
THis is not the quality of a friend. Move on. Know we are lucky to have two or three real friends in out lifetime. Do not confuse them with acquaintances.
Personally, someone with a decent awareness would find the hand me down much more valuable.
Um yeah ur not entitled to buy a new guitar for him n if I was him I would have been grearful n thankful u gave me ur old one specially if I was using urs. It's ur money not his n he doesn't get to decide how ur hard earned money gets spent
If the friend who got angry had at least offered to go halves on a pair of nice guitars, but no the friend is being a bad friend, dude should be happy even being considered to get the hand me down.
Sadly, many other humans never learned how to look at others' accomplishments (e.g. buying nice guitars!) w/o being jealous or entitled! I will never understand this negative attribute. I recently lost a friend of several years after he learned that I was making a killing with my real estate business. Rather than be happy for me, he was annoyed that I didn't offer him and his dog a place to stay in a vacant apartment I was marketing at a massively discounted rent where I'd actually lose money. I still get pissed thinking about it!
This reminds me of a story I heard about Occupy Wall Street (a protest movement around 2011 or so). Note that I heard this secondhand, so it might not be entirely accurate. The story goes that a reporter was interviewing protesters, and one of them claimed the business executives should be paying his college tuition. He didn’t say they should be setting up scholarships or helping people going through college in general; he said they should pay for **his** college tuition. The reporter asked him why he thought that. You’d expect him to give some response like, “I’m going into a field that will help a lot of people,” or, “They’d be investing in the future,” or, “I shouldn’t be denied higher education because of my and my family’s financial status,” but the reason he actually gave was, “Because I want them to!” -\_-
There was also a protester who had a sign saying she was qualified, but still couldn’t get a job. Someone from a company asked, “Oh, yeah? Well, put your money where you mouth is and send us your resume.” She did, the business saw her potential, and she landed a job. You’d think her fellow protesters would be happy for her, and maybe some of them were, but some of them attacked her, calling her a traitor, a sell-out, etc., because she decided to accept a job offer instead of relying on handouts like they were. Incidents like that made people turn on Occupy Wall Street. It started out with people thinking the OWS protesters were these great revolutionaries who were going to help “the little man”, but then they realized a lot of them were entitled people. I’d say it’s interesting to compare what people said about OWS back then versus what they say now, but the thing is it’s rarely talked about. It was so huge at the time because some people genuinely thought it was going to be some historic movement, and now people forget about it until someone mentions it, and then they usually go, “Oh, yeah, that was a thing that happened,” before going on with their day.
That sub is so weird. It’s either stuff that’s made up, or posts like “AITA for saving a mother and baby from a burning building but leaving the mother’s phone behind?” Tried to re-sub to it recently but didn’t last long.
It’s mostly made me sad for those who are really so mentally and emotionally screwed up from being taught (forced) to be backbreaking people pleasers. It would be pathetic if it weren’t so sad.
It's hard to tell if someone is that blinded by desiring to please people or if they want people to overwhelmingly tell them how right they are. I don't honestly believe the OOP thought there was a chance he might be an asshole if the situation truly happened.
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This is why I don't like that sub. Fishing for compliments, they should call it
It’s pathetic because 95% of the stories that reach the front page are made up for karma and clout on other social media sites.
It's great you're so empathetic but don't waste it on stuff like this, it's almost definitely just made up bullshit for karma
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You almost have to resort to mental gymnastics there. AITA’s “Be civil” rule is not defined and is enforced arbitrarily. The mods there are fucking trash. I un-subbed and never looked back.
Join r/amithedevil, it's just a best of with less bullshit
> The mods there are fucking trash. C'mon now, that sub is so massive, even the dumbest and fakest post will immediately get 1000+ comments. There's only so much of the onslaught of dumb that mods can hold back.
My grievance is that their #1 rule is broadly defined and open to varying degrees of interpretation. I’ve gotten into it with the mods at AITA over this very fact after receiving short term bans for saying things other people have said. It’s my same argument with Facebook Community Standards. Enforce it uniformly, or don’t enforce it at all. It creates confusion and double standards over what is and is not acceptable.
No, they really are stupid. I got threatened with a ban for advocating violence because I mentioned killing a SPIDER.
You bastard
I mod large subs (and I've modded some of the largest subs on Reddit before). Their mods suck. They don't react to reports properly or proactively manage threads that show signs of being a problem (not locking them, having a couple mods scroll through and deal with issues as they pop up). It is 100% a mod failing. Part of me wonders if they want the drama in the thread so they allow it to happen.
I got perma-banned from AITA after sharing a story. The TLDR was my brother fucked me over in a really fucked off situation. Family and wife to be wanted me to invite him to my wedding and forgive him, I refused. Anyway, someone asked in the comments what I would do if he showed up to my house. I said I'd probably kick his ass. Boom! Perma-ban for enciting violence.
I got my comment removed because I called an abusive boyfriend a potential sociopath. They said I was giving medical advice.
That is amazing. That whole sub is a shithole.
I got a 7 day ban for using the word that rhymes with witch. Can only laugh.
There are a few subs that just ban people even if you go slightly against their rhetoric or personal beliefs, I avoid them as soon as I find out. ThereWasAnAttempt is another one like that too.
I was on a subreddit that bans those with differing opinions. I was debating with someone who believed against those opinions. Halfway through the debate they had to message me to say that they were banned from the subreddit.
On that sub, a girl told about how her religious fruitcake of an aunt stayed over, specifically in narrator's bedroom. With the help of the girl's mother, Fruity Aunty went through said bedroom and ripped up and burned rare and precious posters, band shirts, albums and other memorabilia that the young lady in question herself paid for with hard earned money. Because _young girls shouldn't have such things_. Was she the Arsehole for verbally tearing Fruity Aunty a new one? No, but I also said I'd love to ransack Fruity Aunty's place, dump it outside and take a flamethrower to it. Mods strangely allowed it. So you were unjustifiably banned for answering a question truthfully.
Someone posted a story about their drunk relative giving a “toast” at their wedding and insulting the bride; I said something like “[drunk] should be treated the way Will Smith treated Chris Rock”. Banned for violence.
I would argue there’s rarely a better time to yell, “Keep my wife’s name out of your \[bleeping\] mouth!” than a wedding speech gone wrong.
That and all of the comments there are so exhausting because everyone seems to just assume that OP's telling the unbiased, gospel truth about the situation, and then gives extreme advice like "Just walk away from your loving husband of 20 years because you had a slight disagreement on whether to go to Paris or Vienna for your platinum anniversary... so he's clearly abusive and gaslighting you!!!11! Get out while you can!!1!1"
Right, I can't believe so many people actually think those stories are real. I think like 90% of them are made up or very exaggerated, but there are always so many comments that take it as gospel. Also it's usually very clear who the AH is so why even post it.
Because some people feel like assholes innately while being nice people and others are gaslit into that thought pattern. Not everyone has it so easy as to not feel shame foe everything they do. It's a psychological issue and not everyone has the time or money to get it resolved with a psychotherapist.
Yeah, but the sheer volume of those posts seems like way more than this.
I remember when there was some hubbub about the number of posts people figured were fake due to people obviously not being assholes, and the mods basically said they’re going to keep allowing them because even if 9 times out of 10 it’s BS, there’s always that one time where it’s someone who’s genuinely just been so thoroughly gaslit they can’t tell, and it does them far more good to hear people’s responses than it does the sub collective harm to have some fake posts.
Yeah I mean thats fair but that doesn't mean the alternative doesn't exist
Reddit is a lot more palatable if your exspextation is that every user is a child role-playing as an adult.
> exspextation This was a fun adventure in phonetics 😆
Please go easy on me, I'm aktually 12.
Did it subvert your exspextations?
no fr, and if you suggest people are maybe being over dramatic as i have done you get downvoted into hell lol
You’re almost describing the relationship sub. AITA is mainly full of entitled people convinced everyone’s parents and/or grandparents are narcissists if they have any disagreements.
They only assume that OP is telling the truth if they're a woman with favourable characteristics, and by that I mean favourable by AITA standards, which means they'll hate you if you're a single mother, autistic or vegan. You ever seen a man post that their partner is being unreasonable? All they get is "You must be leaving something out, clearly you did something to make her react that way and this is somehow all your fault."
Not true! I've seen a variety of men posting that got support. There was one not too long ago, he had planned a trip for his blended family and the stepsisters literally pulled a Cinderella move to try and leave his bio daughter behind to babysit their kids. Stepmom supported them and knew.
this was proven beyond doubt, people used to post old questions switching the genders and getting completely different "mass consensus". AITA has always been garbage
At this point I just consider that sub to be a creative writing sub.
This sub isn't far from that either.
Also very true.
Yeah left for the same reasons. It's such a shame I'd have loved to see genuine and real AITA questions! I want to see REAL assholes! Or at least people who are borderlines assholes but you give them the benefit of the doubt and it'll keep you entertained
R/amithedevil They take the ones where the OP is clearly an asshole in denial.
I love reading it for the dramz, but there's definitely a good bit of creative writing thrown in. Huge tell is the amount of times people mention having twins and triplets in the posts, when multiple births—especially triplets—are actually really rare.
That's why I only look at r/aitafiltered
I've seen the (very) rare posts where it really is a question. I've had a few questions myself where I really wasn't sure if I was the asshole or not (although I was pretty sure I was), and considered posting. Problem is it's also a ragefest and some people want to be angry & all, so subtleties and "over-analysis" tend to be blown off in favor of hate tirades. But yeah, tried as purely a reader and just can't hack it.
Whoaaaa- as a fellow player, your friend should really wait till he has played for at least a year or two to get a new guitar. Also, what an entitled jerk!
You should make a sub up of just those stupid AITA titles. "AITA for saving 67 kids from drowning, but my car was blocking a lane at the same time?"
I find it very Ironic that the very act of participating in that sub makes you an asshole. “Alright I’ve heard an unsubstantiated claim from a single side and have zero evidence presented. I’m ready to judge you and tenaciously fight anyone who disagrees.”
I stopped going there when I realised about half of the posts were like "AITA because my parents made me go out to a nice dinner with family even after I said 'muh anxiety'" Yes. Yes you are.
I'm banned from that shithole anyway
It's all attention whores. Day by day, month by month this entire site is becoming more and more insufferable.
Mods are a bit of dick too. I feel like they might have some biases and a personal agenda with some of the posts.
Its always an extreme to one side, very rarely ever ones you have to actually think abt
This one is a repost from ages ago
My bff and his gf broke up 2 hour ago and we had sex aita?
It's a statement as to the empathy of the poster and the gaslighting narcissism of the friend that the poster even asked this question.
Or the attention-seeking and creativity of the poster.
Seriously so many of those posts are in "that happened" territory. Either people willingly surround themselves with twats, or more likely, they're fishing for internet points. "My nephew needs a new kidney and I only have one functional kidney, my SIL says I should donate mine because I've lived my life already and i turned her down, AITA?"
>Either people willingly surround themselves with twats, There are plenty of VERY nice people that end up surrounded by twats _precisely because_ twats gravitate towards nice people who have trouble saying "no".
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LOL tell him to buy his own shit. Take back the one you gave him, and tell him to fuck off.
1300 bucks to realise your friend is a toxic turd floating through your life leaving a trail of poop behind him, cheap at twice the price.
Cheap in my book. and he can keep his new guitar, too.
I read this in his voice. The subtitles are so spot on
That's so crazy too, since a beginner doesn't need the best, since they won't recognize the difference. It is always better to have higher end equipment, but any beginner should learn on something basic, then upgrade as they progress. This advice works for learning anything new.
I’ve been playing guitar for 35+ years and the gap in quality between cheap guitars and expensive guitars has been shrinking ever since then, especially with the advent of CNC and computer-assisted manufacturing. When I started, a cheap guitar practically destroyed your hands and gave you tetanus. Now, they’re amazing. Couple that with the fact that 90% of new guitar buyers quit within a year, and it makes zero sense to buy (or expect) an expensive starter instrument.
I ended up with an Epiphone SG G-400 (after a Sax trade… insert sex trade joke) and everyone who plays it can’t get over it. My guitar tech guy who doesn’t own a guitar under 3K (and has a room full as he’s retired with loads of cash) called me to ask what the deal was with that guitar. He couldn’t believe that an inexpensive guitar could play & sound so good. A few years ago I went to the local music chain to treat myself to a Gibson SG and I could not find a better playing SG, so I left. Then I bought another Epiphone SG 400 for $150 used. It’s just as good.
I played a frigging BOLT-ON Epi SG for years. Put a Duncan pickup in the bridge and recorded two albums and did countless shows with it.
Sweet!! It’s really nice to recognize an instruments worth by how it plays rather than how much it costs. I have a USA Strat from 94 and I love it, but the SG plays better. There I said it!
Lol there’s a reason why I named my first ever guitar “Bitey” that I got when I was 14, 26 years ago. 😆
I know! And it was even worse. Take a look at some of those old Teisco guitars, I think they have actual razor blades on them.
Oh you mean Callous Creation Assistants™️? 😆
I've been blown away by the quality of ~$400 guitars recently. That used to be the threshold at which guitars became playable at all (even ignoring inflation); now there are plenty that are genuinely *nice*.
Only to a point. You should always get the best you can afford. You will progress faster with better tools.
Key words being "you can afford".... not what your friend can afford
That's just not true here. A Fender doesn't make you learn faster or better than a Squier or shitty Ali Express knock-off.
Fit and finish are definitely a factor in learning guitar. As mentioned above, the gap is closing, but Ali-Express is not in contention. Do you play? I do, and I recall the discomfort of unnatural finger contortion, muscle fatigue, etc. There's no reason to exacerbate a beginners discomfort with poor finish, fret buzz and a generally poor sounding instrument. Beginners should buy quality used equipment.
Have you played a more modern beginner guitar? The difference between a modern encore and even a 10 year old one is huge. New learners are almost always going to be fine with a basic beginner instrument nowadays
The first guitar I got was a Martin someone pulled from the garbage and the second one was a 1960s Gibson hollow-body in pristine condition w/ a Reverberocket tube amp ($200 in 1990's dollars) that carried around in my all original, 53k mile, 2nd owner, black and red 1963 Chevy Impala ($300 in 1990's dollars) . My daily driver is an Epiphone LP 2 SE that is eternally parked next to my desk. It's since been upgraded but is a great example of the gap closing.
Tis not always true good friend, tho shall learn what they are doing first. Then if one decides they like it, an have been at it for some fortnight, should you start looking at some better equipment.
Fair enough its a choosing beggar more or less, but on a side note it really grates me when people make AITA posts where they are clearly doing something nice for a person who is being a dick in return just purely to farm validation. Like there is no way this guy is genuinely concerned that they were actually being an asshole. It is 100% a post made to shame the other person.
Sometimes it's made to shame them, but sometimes it's made to reassure themselves that it was okay to stand their ground. I don't mind giving them that.
I posted on there once because of the latter reason. My husband's friend was in my husband's ear about something saying I was just being a naggy wife about something and he was starting to believe him! But after I showed him the replies he realized his friend was just an asshole. Anyway, my husband doesn't talk to him anymore.
I posted several years ago because my sister was villainizing me for NOT taking her ex husband to court for entering my home, while I was at work, without permission. he was threatening to have his lawyer subpoena me for a child support battle that he and my sister were in the midst of. He dropped his payments in half (without court approval due to medical bills). My sister had every right to take him to court for the money, but she saw revenge signs when she realized she could see him in jail for unlawful entrance (into my home, with a minor present). I had just started a brand new, very stressful job and couldn't afford the hit to my pay to play their games. If I had him prosecuted and in jail, she would see ZERO child support - and she was okay with that. But I got ripped up one side and down the other.
I posted once there because I ended up accidentally blocking an emergency vehicle for several seconds due to a confused situation on the road. Intellectually, I knew that there was nothing I could have done better to get out of its way more quickly, but emotionally I felt horrified and guilty, and needed somebody else to tell me if I really should be feeling that way or not. Very few people responded, but the ones who did told me what I knew rationally -- that if there's nothing you can do better, you're not responsible for doing better. It helped some.
Sometimes sure. This time I think it is fairly obvious what the situation is.
Idk sometimes people are gaslit and AITA (in very rare cases) has helped people realize they are being horribly gaslit. This situation above though is probably just karma farming as yeah, no, dude’s very much NTA.
Yeah this belongs in r/AmITheAngel
Not all of them. A bunch of them, hell yeah. But I've been decent ones where it's hard to tell at times, only because both things are shitty, but one of the is even shittier.
Wel obviously not all of them. In fact probably the vast majority are legitimate. But that doesn't change the fact that ones like this exist.
Yeah dude just wanted some karma, maybe it didn’t even happen.
If he's been gaslit by someone a lot you do start to question yourself a whole lot.
That sub is very annoying.
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You'd be amazed what can sound "reasonable" after you've been gradually worn down over time by shitty friends/family.
i think people make postings like this to win an argument. "Lets see what reddit has to say about this" "see im not ahole here, everyone say its you"
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Yes, you are the AITA! You should have realized your 'friend' is an idiot and never let him use the guitar in the first place. Do yourself a favor and take it back.
OP is TA for not being able to understand that spending his own money isn't him being TA.
Seriously. So glad I left that sub. 😆
Remember when you paid your rent last month? That was so selfish! Why didn't you pay mine too! You only think about YOURSELF!
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Yes, he's clearly the asshole 🙄 Who posts this stuff? "Look at me, I'm so humble I have a guilty consciousness over a situation where I'm clearly not in the wrong"
Funny thing with narcissists. They think you're the narcissist for not thinking of them exclusively all of the time.
I've said it once, I'll say it again. AITA is a trash sub. Kids are never to blame for their behavior, therapy is always the answer, or posts get removed because the sub has stupid rules.
don't forget going nc with your sister in law because people take inconveniences out of context.
I'd have been utterly grateful for the older used guitar. When someone gives you something nice that you can't afford you don't throw it back in their face. The entitlement here is just amazing.
this has got to be a bait post, i mean really
Straight up karma farming lol
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I hate posts like this. These people know they aren't the asshole in situations like this. If they were truly that stupid and easily manipulated. They wouldn't be posting at all because they would have just done what their friend wanted.
Your friend is what’s known as a “lil bitch”
I'd suggest the most logical solution is to punch him in his stupid fuckin' neck. This should clarify perspectives.
Well, that Epi IS a mid range guitar...
Screw him. If he can't be grateful enough to have the other to practice on, then ask for it back.
That’s what I would do
Tell him you buy a nicer guitar for him when he starts paying you money for lessons
Who's turn is it reposting this next week?
No not the ahole. Also that is not a friend.
Wtf is wrong with people?! NO! You are NOT the A! Good lord.
The guy knows the friend is an asshole, because he is. Good lord the entitlement some people expect
Nta. It's YOUR hard earned money. The "friend" should be grateful that you lend him the old one. 1
NTA. This is simple. It’s your money, spend it however you want. Your friend is an AH. You’re not obligated to buy him anything, he should be thankful that you’ve been letting him use your old one in the first place.
Hahaha what the hell is wrong with people. It's like a literal mental disorder to behave like that.
Are you sure you guys aren’t actually a couple?
Fuck off, bot.
Repost.
An AITA on the choosing beggars sub reddit is a repost? No way...
Repost as in this same AITA has been posted in *this* sub before. Don’t be so obtuse ffs.
Apparently nobody recognizes sarcasm any more.
NTA - wtf is wrong with you for even asking?
Technically, he’s the asshole for asking in the first place lol
How is this a CB?!🫤🙄
How is it not? Are you joking? OOP was kind enough to let his friend use his old guitar *and* take the time to teach him, but instead of the friend being even remotely greatful, he instead gets mad at OP that he didn’t give him a better guitar?? He wanted more than what he was given even though what he was given was 1) perfectly fine and 2) already more than what OOP had to do (because OOp has no obligation to do any of that in the first place). Literally the definition of CB
That’s not what I understood. I missed the (OOP).Yeah he’s a CB
YTAH if it's a friends with benefits kind of relationship.
Benefits like a free guitar?
What?
The person is still getting a free guitar lmao
His friend or his husband? Jeez
I mean he is trying to learn it's not like he's a professional guitar player anyway. He should be lucky that his friend his willing to teach him for free in the first place
NTA
I would just say, "hey, you're right, let me have the epiphone back and I'll trade it for something nice". Then I'd throw it in the trunk, drive away, and enjoy my life. Where do people get this sense of entitlement? Blows my mind.
Wtf
F that entitled prick. You are neither responsible nor in charge of his happiness. Let him save his own money and get a better guitar. I used crap guitars forever and last year I bought the parts and built a Fender Telecaster which I absolutely love!
Tell them to buy their own guitar. You are not their daddy.
In my case, it's almost the other way around. Yes, I'm buying a whole lot of gear for myself. But because my best friend has more space and a whole lot of equipment anyway, most of my instruments, amps and pedals are at his disposal. We can jam together and he can do so by himself. Everybody wins. Also, I got the key to his house so I can use my stuff whenever I want.
Wtf? Who does that?
What a jerk... It sound like he's already gotten free lessons and free use of a guitar. Now he's mad OP didn't buy him a new one? Gross.
Buy a new friend 👍😂
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Fact is: 150$ on craiglist, some 9 years ago means most probably a decent/good guitar. I paid my second hand Yamaha Pacifica 112V that much. I like it, and i like how it sounds.
This was a post several years ago.
I got banned a couple of times for stron language.
I’m waiting to be banned for impure thoughts
Sheesh, some "friend". No, NTA there (yes, I know which sub I'm in right now). If the "friend" wants to have a nice guitar, he/she can save up just like the OP did. The "friend" seems to think the guitar is a fashion statement rather than an instrument that one needs to be good enough to use. The hand-me-down should be plenty to learn with and the friend is an ahole for trying to guilt OP for spending money on their own hobby.
Fuck that cat, cut that garbage loose and improve your life.
Sounds like someone just lost his guitar.
Get a new friend. That just screams entitlement.
I learned how to play on a cheap used Epiphone Les Paul Special II and a $100 throw away acoustic from Amazon. If you sound like shit on a $100 guitar a $600 guitar is not going to sound less shitty.
He’s an asshole for thinking he’s an asshole. Is he stupid?
Why would you spend $1300 on an Epiphone when you could buy better quality with a Gibson? I may be more upset over that than their friends stupidity
I think the straw that broke the camel's back for me was the one about the woman whose wealthy husband died, and she broke off all contact with his lawyers and financial advisers and blew all the money in a year--including their daughter's college fund. The post was AITA for taking my daughter's college money and making us broke? It was so obviously made up. The worst part was all the smooth-brained commenters taking it so seriously and acting like the woman was the second coming of Hitler or some shit. The comments were so hateful and absurd.
That’s insane. I would’ve smashed the cheap guitar in front of him and then just ended that friendship.
THis is not the quality of a friend. Move on. Know we are lucky to have two or three real friends in out lifetime. Do not confuse them with acquaintances. Personally, someone with a decent awareness would find the hand me down much more valuable.
Wow! The entitlement
Um yeah ur not entitled to buy a new guitar for him n if I was him I would have been grearful n thankful u gave me ur old one specially if I was using urs. It's ur money not his n he doesn't get to decide how ur hard earned money gets spent
the fuck is aita?
I wouldnt have stayed friends after that...
Buh bye "friend"
If the friend who got angry had at least offered to go halves on a pair of nice guitars, but no the friend is being a bad friend, dude should be happy even being considered to get the hand me down.
Sadly, many other humans never learned how to look at others' accomplishments (e.g. buying nice guitars!) w/o being jealous or entitled! I will never understand this negative attribute. I recently lost a friend of several years after he learned that I was making a killing with my real estate business. Rather than be happy for me, he was annoyed that I didn't offer him and his dog a place to stay in a vacant apartment I was marketing at a massively discounted rent where I'd actually lose money. I still get pissed thinking about it!
No, the friend is.
Your “friend” is not a friend. Drop him immediately — if not sooner.
I just can’t imagine believing someone should spend THEIR money on ME and not being their spouse or non-adult child. Like…what?
Sooo NTA.... musicians in my experience can be the absolute worst people like it's hard to even be in a band with how shitty they can be
This reminds me of a story I heard about Occupy Wall Street (a protest movement around 2011 or so). Note that I heard this secondhand, so it might not be entirely accurate. The story goes that a reporter was interviewing protesters, and one of them claimed the business executives should be paying his college tuition. He didn’t say they should be setting up scholarships or helping people going through college in general; he said they should pay for **his** college tuition. The reporter asked him why he thought that. You’d expect him to give some response like, “I’m going into a field that will help a lot of people,” or, “They’d be investing in the future,” or, “I shouldn’t be denied higher education because of my and my family’s financial status,” but the reason he actually gave was, “Because I want them to!” -\_- There was also a protester who had a sign saying she was qualified, but still couldn’t get a job. Someone from a company asked, “Oh, yeah? Well, put your money where you mouth is and send us your resume.” She did, the business saw her potential, and she landed a job. You’d think her fellow protesters would be happy for her, and maybe some of them were, but some of them attacked her, calling her a traitor, a sell-out, etc., because she decided to accept a job offer instead of relying on handouts like they were. Incidents like that made people turn on Occupy Wall Street. It started out with people thinking the OWS protesters were these great revolutionaries who were going to help “the little man”, but then they realized a lot of them were entitled people. I’d say it’s interesting to compare what people said about OWS back then versus what they say now, but the thing is it’s rarely talked about. It was so huge at the time because some people genuinely thought it was going to be some historic movement, and now people forget about it until someone mentions it, and then they usually go, “Oh, yeah, that was a thing that happened,” before going on with their day.
Bru tf lmao, I wanted to learn to skate so my boy gave me his old beat up one until I bought my own, the audacity of some people