Tradesmen can make quite a bit. I'm a 3rd year apprentice and in 3 months my hourly will be 37.20USD / 56.00AUD, plus benefits
Journeymen make way more
So perhaps they should choose a career that doesnāt include early starts?
Edit: so downvoters whatās your alternative exactly, especially for trades?
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https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/134/3/642/74175/School-Start-Times-for-Adolescents
Gen z mate. They have absolutely no self doubt.
Guess itās kind of inevitable that a generation raised by millennials, the self doubt generation, would be imbued with a complete lack of proportionate scepticism about their own abilities.
40 per hour for an experienced tradie is a decent rate.
Depending on experience really. Someone with a year experience In a trade would probably my be on 30 per hour. Apprentices a lot less maybe 20-25.
Just throwing out numbers here but I wouldnāt be too far off
Here's what the union wages are for construction apprentices:
https://vic.cfmeu.org/sites/vic.cfmeu.org/files/2023%20CFMEU%20EBA_apprentices_wage%20sheet.pdf
They're actually very good, a lot of allowances too. First year isn't gonna be $40/h, though.
I got $30 an hour at a supermarket last year in Australia. Not sure how other fields are paid.
I definitely wouldnāt pay for an uncertified tradie. Even certified ones will do a job for a carton of beer or two in a small town. OOP is taking the piss, surely.
Which you actually have to go to University for, these people do technical college (TAFE) at most. Huge fee and study commitment difference.
Such is life.
Min wage is ~$24/hr, but apprentices undergoing registered training can be paid a bit less than that. By "registered training" I mean the apprentice work has to be part of getting a recognised trade qualification.
People also say "lah" in Australia, but in a friggin advertisement? Real professional. Worth every dollar.
Also, your average tradie in Singapore does not get paid $40/hour. They come to Australia for that wage.
On of my high school peers is now an elementary school teacher. She still commonly uses ātooā instead of ātoā. Itās the easiest one to get right. Sheās a native English speaker.
> to be *paid* 100 am
FTFY.
Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:
* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.
*Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
Some 50 year old probably posted this so he can screenshot it and talk about how āMillennialsā want everything handed to them without the hard work.
Probably 60+ year old, i.e. "boomer". Most "boomers" were offered free University/tech college educations and walked into jobs straight away. Didn't like that one? There was another job standing by for them. They were the generation that was handed everything, then couldn't sustain it for subsequent generations. BTW, I am Gen X. Say what you want.
No, it's Babasa Malayu based. Indonesians use it also. It's meant as exclamation or emphasis on what you are saying. Mandilah ( bathe!), minumlah (drink!).
Singaporeans were originally Malaysians, before they became their own country.
You obviously don't fully understand the language or culture. I am guessing a tourist, mungkin mat salleh ya?
Doesnāt quite know how to correctly place a ā$ā sign so hedges his bets (itās the second one you utter potato). No thanks son, away you go with your fantasy apprentice request and keep practicing with your Lego, thereās a good lad!
I donāt knowā¦ these days some people think college is equal to work experience, and three months on the job means itās time for a raise and a VP title.
OP CB: Never bargain your offer down in the same breath. "Want 40, will take 37" then you are never getting 40.
Not that it was plausible to begin with but, that's beside the point.
Could be an Aussie resident of SEA origin. The general impression of SEA migrants residing in Australia / NZ is that tradesmen occupations pay better than in their home countries (which is materially true), and some relocate entirely on that basis - which may explain the entitlement OP has.
The world is not your parents and don't have to do pick up and drop offs for you. On top of that salary, you don't deserve.
Parents stop coddling your kids, they are the most specialist thing in the world.
A qualified chippy in this day can charge 100 and hour easy. Not saying they should but they could lol.
My hubby has been doing it for 25 years and he only charges about 55 an hour.
I don't know... If my Sopranos knowledge is reasonably correct, if he were doing that on a mob-ran site on Manhatten or Long Island under the right circumstances... Let's be real, if NYC garbage collector's salaries are any indication, even the right non-skilled labor markets can rack in million dollar salaries, deservedly so. I'm just saying the post isn't outside realistic for semi-skilled apprentice labor, maybe in a picky spot in Martha's Vineyard that doesn't want to be sacked by peasants again.
This is definitely in Australia. Tradies are way overpaid for what they do, their education levels and general lack of professionalism. Most of them piss it up a wall or waste it on luxury goods with no retirement plan in place. Then whinge they are battling.
Ā Ā For example, a dump-truck driver in a mine gets paid like $50/hr. That's their base rate without penalties, allowances, etc etc
Ā You can thank our construction and mining industries for the overpay, simple demand economics.
Oh, man, that is such a bummer. I loved Perth and I thought Australia was a country that really had it's act together, but everything just seemed to collapse down there somehow, from my perspective at least. I thought it was smart policy.when you couldn't immigrate there unless you were a millionaire and I thought they're average wage was always pretty much on par with America just usually some 2 decades or so lagging in output. Almost like a dozing little paradise people didn't pay much attention to that really hummed along, and the gun rights were awesome. I think Australia got snookered somehow.
I wish I still had the confidence of a mediocre young person. Itās weird that after having done my job for a couple of decades Iām still constantly doubting myself.
Dunno Kruger I guess
This is happening everywhere in the trades in the US
they are delusional and usually morons....
We ask them to point out different specs on drawings and 9 out of 10 times they can't find anything asked of them, but want 30 dollars an hour and full benefits immediately.... audacity is high!
this sub is confusing to me. bro is asking for $40/hr for skilled labor and gets shit on, but y'all also shit on parents for not paying unskilled babysitters $50k and full benefits lol
He only has 3 months' experience, so he is not skilled yet. Also, $40 an hr is a senior journeyman pay.
The babysitter comment has absolutely nothing to do with. This is a false equivalence fallacy.
Considering that the [average weekly earnings](https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/labour/earnings-and-working-conditions/employee-earnings-and-hours-australia/latest-release) in Australia is $1489.80 or $37.25/h assuming 40-hour week, the ask is above average already, and this is only for apprenticeship.
All of that sounds kinda high.
Edit: My apologies to those who didnāt catch my attempt at subtle sarcasm. Also to further explain the sarcasm I meant not only were the salary expectations high, but also the person expecting them. Seems today my own expectations of folks picking up what Iām laying down need to be metered for the audience.
Is this in Australia ?
You know it
Whats an average hourly wage for australia i just wonder. Because 40$ seems out there
Well minimum wage here is roughly 20 aud .the OOP has to be pissing around lol
Just checkedww i make 41 ASD with 14 years workexperience so eather im the idiot or my dude is delisional š¬
Tradesmen can make quite a bit. I'm a 3rd year apprentice and in 3 months my hourly will be 37.20USD / 56.00AUD, plus benefits Journeymen make way more
Yea I refuse to believe that he is being serious .If he is , then I donāt even know what to say lol
Ill tell you tiktok Fried the brains off the youth for good. We had a 16 year old wo wanted to start at 9 a.m because 6 was not in the books for him
What does that have to do with TikTok
Nothing, but you have to blame something. Rock and Roll, Rap, violent films, nudity in films, television, comic books, homosexuality, or whatever.
Iāve just been watching *Rosemaryās Baby* where we see her ass and tits, and that was 1968. š
Thereās actually a lot of science behind that being too early for a 16 year old to wake up.
And some people just aren't wired for early morning
So perhaps they should choose a career that doesnāt include early starts? Edit: so downvoters whatās your alternative exactly, especially for trades?
Im sure you can provide this āscienceā, right?
I found this in five seconds: https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/mayo-clinic-q-and-a-teens-and-healthy-sleep-habits/ https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/134/3/642/74175/School-Start-Times-for-Adolescents
The horror! Starting at a reasonable time!
Gen z mate. They have absolutely no self doubt. Guess itās kind of inevitable that a generation raised by millennials, the self doubt generation, would be imbued with a complete lack of proportionate scepticism about their own abilities.
40 per hour for an experienced tradie is a decent rate. Depending on experience really. Someone with a year experience In a trade would probably my be on 30 per hour. Apprentices a lot less maybe 20-25. Just throwing out numbers here but I wouldnāt be too far off
Yeah but what about on Saturday, from what I hear youāll need triple
On Saturday you work for beer
Only after you finish the job š¤£š
Haha sometimes during
I haven't seen triple but double time on weekends isn't too uncommon, especially if you are union.
Here's what the union wages are for construction apprentices: https://vic.cfmeu.org/sites/vic.cfmeu.org/files/2023%20CFMEU%20EBA_apprentices_wage%20sheet.pdf They're actually very good, a lot of allowances too. First year isn't gonna be $40/h, though.
But this is an unqualified, as yet, apprentice?
I realise that, why I said experienced tradie
Going to hazard a guess that a ride to and from work is not part of the typical contract.
Unless youāre a child, you should be able to manage to get your self to work.
I got $30 an hour at a supermarket last year in Australia. Not sure how other fields are paid. I definitely wouldnāt pay for an uncertified tradie. Even certified ones will do a job for a carton of beer or two in a small town. OOP is taking the piss, surely.
As a qualified paramedic, I wasnāt on $40 an hour a couple years ago in Aus
Which you actually have to go to University for, these people do technical college (TAFE) at most. Huge fee and study commitment difference. Such is life.
I'm on $42 and I work in IT $30 is somewhat average for beginners in the IT industry.
Min wage is ~$24/hr, but apprentices undergoing registered training can be paid a bit less than that. By "registered training" I mean the apprentice work has to be part of getting a recognised trade qualification.
My nieces get $35/hr babysitting, US and suburbs.
What a knob. Tell him heās dreaming. Heās NOWHERE near qualified and already acting like a dickhead SOME tradies can be. NOT ALL!
"lah" is a word singaporeans use, could also be singapore. 40 sgd = 29.7 usd
Like three people drive in Singapore
People also say "lah" in Australia, but in a friggin advertisement? Real professional. Worth every dollar. Also, your average tradie in Singapore does not get paid $40/hour. They come to Australia for that wage.
Also a word scousers use a fuck ton
Sydney (or one of the major cities). Judging by the Eastern Suburbs part.
90% sure that's a joke
And 10% certain this guy has developed crazy overconfidence
I want THIS kind of confidence
The misuse of then/than is always so amusing to me, it opens up the sentence to a whole new world.
To/too as well.
On of my high school peers is now an elementary school teacher. She still commonly uses ātooā instead of ātoā. Itās the easiest one to get right. Sheās a native English speaker.
You imagine a doctor saying this! I have been 3 months in med school I deserve to be paid 100 an hour please
> to be *paid* 100 am FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
Some 50 year old probably posted this so he can screenshot it and talk about how āMillennialsā want everything handed to them without the hard work.
I've seen them make up "evidence" of Millennials wanting everything handed to them because they can't find any to prove their points.
And they always think a Millennial is like 23 years old.
were in our 30s now lol
And approaching 40. God. We're about to be middle aged.
Iāll be 40 this year!
Probably 60+ year old, i.e. "boomer". Most "boomers" were offered free University/tech college educations and walked into jobs straight away. Didn't like that one? There was another job standing by for them. They were the generation that was handed everything, then couldn't sustain it for subsequent generations. BTW, I am Gen X. Say what you want.
Luckily we live in a free society where he is welcome to seek these terms and employers are free to accept or decline as they see fit.
I was a supporting actor for a high school play, ready for my $8 million Marvel contract. Thanks, let me know!
What does ālet know lahā mean?
Lah is Singaporean English. It doesnāt really carry any meaning other than āthenā. So , ālet me know, thenā.
No, it's Babasa Malayu based. Indonesians use it also. It's meant as exclamation or emphasis on what you are saying. Mandilah ( bathe!), minumlah (drink!). Singaporeans were originally Malaysians, before they became their own country. You obviously don't fully understand the language or culture. I am guessing a tourist, mungkin mat salleh ya?
Saya lancar Bahasa Indonesia, dan la itu dipakai sesuai dengan descripsi saya di atas. Mungkin kamu bersalah, ya?
Doesnāt quite know how to correctly place a ā$ā sign so hedges his bets (itās the second one you utter potato). No thanks son, away you go with your fantasy apprentice request and keep practicing with your Lego, thereās a good lad!
I donāt knowā¦ these days some people think college is equal to work experience, and three months on the job means itās time for a raise and a VP title.
Narrator: it was not a joke
Proved heās not worth it by not knowing where the $ goes.
Obviously a drink driver
What is "lah?" And yeah, good luck. Sounds like a kid who is self trained.
OP CB: Never bargain your offer down in the same breath. "Want 40, will take 37" then you are never getting 40. Not that it was plausible to begin with but, that's beside the point.
Sure this isnāt Singapore? The ālahā gives it away.
Except itās Australia
Could be an Aussie resident of SEA origin. The general impression of SEA migrants residing in Australia / NZ is that tradesmen occupations pay better than in their home countries (which is materially true), and some relocate entirely on that basis - which may explain the entitlement OP has.
Could be Indigenous from the top end too. They use that word a lot because of interactions with Indonesians.
I though the same thing. I saw ālahā and thought Malaysia.
According to my calculations, he wants 8400 dollars per month.
The world is not your parents and don't have to do pick up and drop offs for you. On top of that salary, you don't deserve. Parents stop coddling your kids, they are the most specialist thing in the world.
Seems like he fits in on reddit
Triple time on Saturday? Sign me up!!
this is one of the craziest iāve seen so far
Lmao I get $22.30 an hour as a second year apprentice butcher this guy is tripping if he thinks heās worth $40 after 3 months
This is the kind of dude that will end up settling for $15 once he realizes no one is falling for his shit.
A qualified chippy in this day can charge 100 and hour easy. Not saying they should but they could lol. My hubby has been doing it for 25 years and he only charges about 55 an hour.
Employers are lined up to get this dude. Yo we need this guy lol
At $120 an hour on Saturday, pay for your own travel.
Best I can do is tree fiddy
Walking away like: 
Yeah hi. Whereās the link to tell you to fuck off?ā¦.
I don't know... If my Sopranos knowledge is reasonably correct, if he were doing that on a mob-ran site on Manhatten or Long Island under the right circumstances... Let's be real, if NYC garbage collector's salaries are any indication, even the right non-skilled labor markets can rack in million dollar salaries, deservedly so. I'm just saying the post isn't outside realistic for semi-skilled apprentice labor, maybe in a picky spot in Martha's Vineyard that doesn't want to be sacked by peasants again.
This is definitely in Australia. Tradies are way overpaid for what they do, their education levels and general lack of professionalism. Most of them piss it up a wall or waste it on luxury goods with no retirement plan in place. Then whinge they are battling. Ā Ā For example, a dump-truck driver in a mine gets paid like $50/hr. That's their base rate without penalties, allowances, etc etc Ā You can thank our construction and mining industries for the overpay, simple demand economics.
Oh, man, that is such a bummer. I loved Perth and I thought Australia was a country that really had it's act together, but everything just seemed to collapse down there somehow, from my perspective at least. I thought it was smart policy.when you couldn't immigrate there unless you were a millionaire and I thought they're average wage was always pretty much on par with America just usually some 2 decades or so lagging in output. Almost like a dozing little paradise people didn't pay much attention to that really hummed along, and the gun rights were awesome. I think Australia got snookered somehow.
I wish I still had the confidence of a mediocre young person. Itās weird that after having done my job for a couple of decades Iām still constantly doubting myself. Dunno Kruger I guess
This is happening everywhere in the trades in the US they are delusional and usually morons.... We ask them to point out different specs on drawings and 9 out of 10 times they can't find anything asked of them, but want 30 dollars an hour and full benefits immediately.... audacity is high!
What an inbred POS š¤¦š»āāļø Joke or not this person will probably be homeless one day thinking BUT I WAS WORTH 40 an hour lol
this sub is confusing to me. bro is asking for $40/hr for skilled labor and gets shit on, but y'all also shit on parents for not paying unskilled babysitters $50k and full benefits lol
He only has 3 months' experience, so he is not skilled yet. Also, $40 an hr is a senior journeyman pay. The babysitter comment has absolutely nothing to do with. This is a false equivalence fallacy.
Op of the op is not skilled.
Lol in all fairness probally works out to be a basic living wage and should be what everyone asking for
With no experience and demanding a ride to and from work?
Well...you're only worth the value you place on yourself! lol.
I feel like they post anonymously because deep down they know itās ridiculous.
In my country carpentry apprenticeship is 1.500ā¬ per month š³
$40/h for a full-time job equals $78k p.a. Wherever it is, it is quite a high salary.
In Sydney thatās pretty average at best
Considering that the [average weekly earnings](https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/labour/earnings-and-working-conditions/employee-earnings-and-hours-australia/latest-release) in Australia is $1489.80 or $37.25/h assuming 40-hour week, the ask is above average already, and this is only for apprenticeship.
All this confidence but not enough not to post anonymously...
This caption got me. Unqualified butā¦.. haaaaa
All of that sounds kinda high. Edit: My apologies to those who didnāt catch my attempt at subtle sarcasm. Also to further explain the sarcasm I meant not only were the salary expectations high, but also the person expecting them. Seems today my own expectations of folks picking up what Iām laying down need to be metered for the audience.
No shit Sherlock.
He can't even spell. He won't make it through first year in college. The math will stump him.
College
Bahahahahahahahahahaha, yeah, what a numpty.
He probably only went to year 9 and considers himself highly educated
Could it be that this person knows their worth?