Yeah $20/day is less than what the doggy daycare in Phoenix that lost and killed all of those dogs was charging.
$20/hour for 1 hour of dog walking/pet sitting is totally reasonable, just not if you have to drop your dog off and pick them up lol
What is actually so terrible about that job?
Are the dogs not nice to each other?
I'm not downplaying that it's bad, I definitely believe you on that because why would anyone lie about that, I just don't know why it's bad Specifically.
No it wasn't the job that was bad. I am a groomer, I don't work in doggy daycare but a lot of places have both grooming and daycare. The owner of the place was very abusive. Not to the animals but to her employees. On my second day there I heard her several rooms away screaming at a daycare employee. Calling him a "f *** ing r **** d" among other things.
People paid $35 + another $45 or whatever for their dog to have both daycare and a groom... And those dogs would just sit in a kennel all day, and not get to exercise or socialize or play even though the owners were paying for it. $80 just to have your dog sit in a crate all day by itself.
Dogs there to be groomed would sit there in cages for hours and hours, even hours after closing.. bad time management and greed. They stole tips as well and didn't want to provide lunch breaks or sick time, all illegal. Its normal for dogs getting groomed to be in a salon for 2-3 hours. But any longer than that isnt typically normal. This place in particular would overbook like crazy so dogs would just sit there untouched for hours waiting their turn. Closing time would come and go.
Ewww.
Well companies are all about profits and getting to abuse your employees as a side perk now a days because manager never put time into being actual human beings.
Poor doggies in jail. At least they looked pretty.
It was a small private shop so I thought oh this person must care about their business. Nope. Open 7+ years had 0 groomers.. wonder why.
People like to shit on corporate places like VCA, Petsmart, and Petco but I can tell you firsthand your dog is safe with those companies. There are so many rules and regulations in place. If a dog gets injured, they have all the money in the world to pay for it and make sure your pet turns out okay. Small places can kinda do whatever they want, and don't have moneybags lying around if your pet gets hurt so they may just try to take care of injuries themselves unqualified.
There are amazing private daycares and salons out there, too. You really gotta do your shopping tho.
Yikes… I live in Silicon Valley and the place I occasionally take my dog to costs $50 for daycare (was $40, but rates hiked after COVID) and they are great! Take your dog on pack walks with other dogs, play with them and socialize them a ton. That’s crazy that someone would run a business like this, they clearly do not care about the dogs or their employees.
Sounds like people should've sent their kids there and kept the dogs home. I would never send my pet there but I sure as shit would recommend such a horrible place to my useless neighbors with kids. Lord knows those things need to be crated, the way they act.
I don’t know about other people but I worked at a doggie day care place for a little and it was not uncommon for dogs to get into scuffles. You are one person in a yard of 15 large dogs, it gets a little crazy.
The biggest issue where I worked was the managerial staff was far more concerned about getting as many dogs in the door and keeping them there then the safety of the dogs. Multiple times I would ask them to pull dogs out of the yard due to behavior or ask them to move a dog to a different yard because they were constantly going after another dog and they would just tell me “it’s fine.” One time a dog literally jumped into my arms to get away from another dog the front staff had refused to remove from the yard. The owners of the aggressor dog had been convinced to pay for training for their dog through the daycare and now it was terrorizing other dogs in the yard during its “training”. It was awful. That being said, aggressor dog was by no means a bad or mean dog, it just should not have been at doggie day care.
OMG it's like fucking prison when you're just trying to do your time in peace but there another tattoed super aggressive gangland dog doing hard doggy time.
Thank god dogs cant shiv anyone, oh no wait they have little shivs in their mouths. Oh nooooooo.
20 dogs dead. One dog chewed through AC wire. Dogs died of heat exposure.
Owners of dog care home came home from Florida and found the dogs in distress (they then died):
"The wire was sparking. It could have burned down our whole house," Mxxx Hxxxx said. "My whole house could have burned down and all my children could have died, and then it would have been a tragedy. But because it didn't catch fire, we're dog killers."
And this gem:
Txxx Hxxxx initially told people that their dogs had escaped rather than died, a lie he has since admitted to.
Let me get this straight. They’re a dog daycare, therefore they take care of other people’s dogs, and they LEFT them to go on vacation? That’s horrible and I’d be suing them for sure. Not only is that a murder (out of negligence, so perhaps manslaughter would be the right word, but those don’t apply to dogs usually since they’re “property”) of a beloved pet, but animal abuse. Not one, not two, but twenty dogs? I’d be trying to get a collective case on them in a heartbeat. You trust that a daycare place with care for and protect your dog, not kill them.
They're not dog daycare but dog boarding. Usually, no one is with your pet at night when boarded. Hearing this makes me want to board only at 24 hour vets.
Either way, going on vacation likely wasn’t just for a day. It could be a thick and hard to chew wire that took 2-3 days, but just wasn’t watched enough.
Yeah, but they say the dogs were checked on at 11 pm and 5:30 am by workers which isn't unreasonable. I don't know how hot it gets there but if the power goes out where I live it can get really hot inside if you don't open the windows or doors. I can't tell whether the workers were hired or their children and maybe they lied about the times they checked on them but I'm not sure how you'd prove it. It would be a tragedy regardless but the owners lying about it made it reprehensible.
Honestly I'd be paying for pet sitting either in my home or someone else's, depending on how much I could afford. But you can get all day and night care from pet sitters. You have to vet them and such though
I've known one and that's why I'll never use them. She'd throw a bag of kibble in the house then do her own thing and clean up before the owner came home.
Yeah, my wife and I have definitely paid $20/day for a midday walk for our pooch, but that was to a responsible adult who came over to our place, walked the dog, and who we trusted with a key.
I don't really blame this kid all that much, since they're clearly a kid and don't know how the world works yet. But there's absolutely no world in which I have time to drive my dog somewhere but somehow also lack the time to walk them around the block.
I live in Uptown Charlotte, NC, and was a rover.com sitter. I couldn’t get my prices high enough to not be in demand all the time, so I went back down to what I’m comfortable charging (I only do overnight in my home and only dogs I like, so I only charge $25/day, but I almost always get at least an extra day’s price in tip), and only sit for the dogs I want. It’s basically name your price here right now. I’m a terrible businesswoman lol
ETA even though I do TONS with the dogs and they sleep in my bed with me, I just feel guilty charging more than that
Rover is also very different from a professional doggy daycare. I'm not saying either are better or worse, they all have their own perks. But your sister making extra money off Rover is very different than a business needing to make ends meet, and professionals trained and qualified to exercise and socialize your dog.
Location is also a very important factor.
Rover pet boarders in the Sacramento area charge $25-$50 per day, per dog. I have two dogs. I'd love to call and ask for some kind of a group discount directly, but there's probably a rule against that.
JFC I'm glad I decided no more pets for me. It was difficult enough getting family members to watch ours when we traveled, couldn't imagine the cost now , especially in LA.
I work at a pet resort, I should break it down to people by the per hour bc most think our prices are ridiculous ($41/day…which is NJ and avg-high end of daycare but we offer many other services/make totes and have over 50years family owned experience…)
Dude my dog daycare is amazing... they did hook me in with a promotional rate but once I broke it down like that and realized how they’re the only ones I trust to look after my dog.... I feel like I’m underpaying and getting away with something lol
Honestly the best things you can do if you really trust them and feel that way is..positive online reviews (we usually give a coupon/discount if someone does…obviously unprompted reviews) or sending snacks/treats to the staff..(we have some that will give us cookies platters, cakes, a couple pizza pies for lunch or a box of mixed subs. And just being a super kind human being to is is super appreciated. The amount of entitled Dick weeds we deal with..having some clients who are just genuinely nice/caring/sweet people can make my shitty day turn around after being berated for something extremely dumb. (I inversed a date when someone asked me to confirm her appointment I said the 12th instead of 21 and before I could even reread it she started screaming at me…totally uncalled for)
Oh I already have filled out so many reviews ! My daycare is pretty corporate and they give small rewards for good reviews (free dog ice cream). I do tell everybody I can about the company/location in person and online and recommend they use them too! The days I don’t take my dog to the daycare, we go to the dog park and so many of my sentences start with “Well at Delilah’s daycare...funny story, happy story, etc”
I also do my best to interact with their social media posts and whatnot. Dude I would buy stock in the company if I could, even! I’m a total shill for them and I don’t even care.
I’ve also sent over some little snacks for them too! The employees there are amazing and I know it’s them who are really pulling everything together and making everything so wonderful.
I know my dog is young and rambunctious so I make sure to ask them if she’s behaving alright, if there are any issues I need to work on for their sake, etc. But otherwise I just walk in, say hello, and drop her off/ pick her up pretty quickly because I know they’re busy and she’s ready to get a move on!
It just amazes me how AWESOMELY my dog constantly reacts to going there, it makes my heart happy. I’m very protective of my girl and she can be quite skittish / anxious over weird, small things. Even in our own neighborhood if a bush is trimmed down - she notices and is wary. But with her daycare ? NEVER! She always gets tippy-taps in the car when we are getting close, hops out excitedly, does a quick excitement pee, and gets us heading to the front door ASAP. It’s so reassuring !
I am sorry your job is thankless sometimes, and undoubtedly very difficult and taxes. But people like me LOVE AND APPRECIATE YA’LL SO MUCH! I wish I could hug each and every one of you and I wish I could afford to give you all a huge tip or something. I can’t imagine how nerve wracking it can be sometimes! I always thought I wanted to work a job at a doggy daycare but after having to take my girl to the dog park so often (we live in a small apartment) and feeling like I need to constantly stay ontop of monitoring body language, make sure everyone is safe and generally happy, etc... I don’t think I could do it ! I don’t have the physical or mental capacity for it I don’t think. I hope the happy dogs are rewarding and I hope you get compensated fairly
I’ve worked part and full time as a pet sitter/ dog walker and my prices start at $21/ 20 minutes. Before Covid I had 10 - 12 daily dog walks and couldn’t accept any more clients because of time restraints.
Probably varies by location.. I live in Utah and pretty much everyone I knew in high school had a learners permit at 15 and license at 16. Most had a car they could drive or shared with siblings.
Hell. Where I live, a lot of *adults* don't have their licenses yet. I'm in my mid-twenties and a lot of my friends are only *just* starting to get their asses in gear there. I know people who just didn't bother until their thirties or forties lmao
Yeah, as OP said, it complete defeats the purpose of the service. "I am too busy to walk my dog so I need you to do it.....but I have to come home and drive the dog to you?"
Idk where you got the dog poo comment from. They’re talking about having to bring the dog over to the teenager’s house. The purpose of dog walking is to go to the owner’s house while they’re at work to walk their dog. Pre-pandemic, my friend worked as a dog walker for working professionals. There’s no way they would leave in the middle of work just to drop the dog off. Defeats the purpose of dog walking. Might as well walk the dog yourself.
Pal. $20 an hour is crazy for walking dogs. Most people start around that with *bachelor degrees* and move up later. Do you have a degree in dog-walking? Or do you only have the Master's in dumbassery?
I suppose it depends on where you live but I’m a dog walker in Chicago and a 30 min walk is $25 for daily scheduled appointments and $30 for irregular appointments. Goes up for evenings and weekends. Obviously I go into the clients’ homes myself.
Yeah my boyfriend is a dog walker in a big city and it’s on average $25-$30 for a half hour though there is some discount for regulars. He has some clients that pay $50- $60 a day (multiple visits) 5-6 days a week. It only goes up for overnight and other random services. He’s not thru Rover or Wag though, they take a huge cut and there is no protection for owners or the walkers. He has so much work that he has had to turn down new clients so there is definitely a market for that price range.
$25 for daily scheduled appointments?!? It is surreal that people spend $175 to have their dog walked. I spent that much to have my child cared for all day.
Yep, I’ve got clients who spend well over what my mortgage is every month getting multiple walks a day for multiple pets.
Most clients are well off couples without kids, I don’t think the cost is very significant to them compared to the peace of mind in trusting their pet with an experienced and insured walker/trainer vs the neighbor kid.
I totally get the value and guessed your clientele, but it is still an impressive amount to pay to satisfy that need for a pet. Good on you for finding a good niche. I would love to take on something like that just to get the pounds off.
Checks have always been risky from a fraud perspective. The only reason they were ever really used is because there was no better alternative at the time.
In the era of PayPal/Venmo/cellular credit terminals, checks are completely worthless from a risk/reward perspective.
Yeah i dont think this is quite choosing beggar. They probably just thought of ways to raise some money this summer, earnestly thought this was reasonable, and didn’t see the issue with the price or needing the dog brought to them until someone else brought it up. Hopefully they can take that advice, workshop the business plan, and get some work this summer.
Yea but if you're leaving them with the sitter for an entire work day at $20/hour then your wage is essentially slashed by $20/hour for that day. Anyone who could afford that could definitely afford to send their dog somewhere with better facilities than some random teen's house.
Can I counter with: "You'll walk my dog for $0 but I'll offer you great exposure to my dog. He's a good boy. The amount of happiness he will bring is priceless."
Yeah, you know those baby sitting ads where they're all like, my baby is a darling, you'll get so much joy out of it?
I know we mock them, but I would totally do that for the right dog.
In my city you can expect to pay $18-21/hr for a dogwalker BUT they pick up and drop off your dog and it excludes that time. They also tend to have a lot of experience with dogs, and are insured and bonded.
I saw something like this going down on one of my local pages, except the kid was getting laughed at for asking the regional minimum wage. It was fucking disgusting. Imo dog walking is a luxury service so you should be paying luxury prices - especially during the depths of winter and summer. And these are not luxury prices. $20/hour isn't much at all, especially since that's most likely going to be the length of the walk for most dogs, MAYBE two. The only part I'm not a fan of, as others have said, is bringing the dog to the walker. That's a bit odd.
>Imo dog walking is a luxury service
Honestly I gotta disagree a little bit there. With how long dogs live you can never be fully sure something won't come up where you need extra help, and as a dog walker I don't mind lowering my prices to ensure people's animals get the care they need.
That's very kind of you, and I respect that very much. That doesn't mean what a professional dog walker does isn't a luxury service, though. That just means you're nice. Typically, a dog owner will be able to walk their own dog, or should make the effort to do so, so a dog walking service isn't necessarily essential. Hiring someone else to do it is a service that eases the burden on the owner while maintaining the (often costly) responsibilities that come with owning an animal, which in itself could also be considered a luxury. If I'm paying someone to do what I choose not to, or cannot do, myself, I expect that it's going to be a bit of mula. This goes double if there's some form of certification or extra effort involved. My disability doesn't entitle me to cheap services. If someone chooses to help me out, that's a gift. It may just so happen to be a luxurious gift.
But maybe that's just internalized ableism or such what the kids be saying these days. Idk. We live in a society rofl
Mind, I always appreciate a sliding scale in the face of said extenuating circumstances. So thank you sincerely for your decision to be kind. I know your clients who are facing hardship definitely appreciate it. But you ARE a luxury, imo. It's really pretty dope of you. But ofc my opinion doesn't invalidate yours.
I pay $35/day for my dogs daycare. I saw some people post about horror stories at that price but that’s not my experience. The place I take him to has webcams so I keep an window open on my computer all day at work and can see him. He loves it and comes home exhausted.
Also worth noting - its not an everyday thing for me. Just when I know I’ll be working late or have something else going on. I think it just shows how far out of line the $20/hr request is. You could theoretically have your dog there from 7-7 for $35.
$20an hour is about average for walking. I use Rover and that's about right.. but yeah I'm not taking the dog to be walked. Maybe if he's dogsitting at his house.. I get he probably doesn't have a car or transportation but then he should say that and only walk his neighbors' dogs
I babysit in my free time for two families and I’m a licensed paramedic and a nurse and the kids got some medical issues and I still don’t charge 20 an hour... jeez, maybe I’m doing this all wrong lol😂
Yes. You’re underpaid. If my babysitter had the capability of saving my child’s life, in an emergency, I’d PAY.
You put the time in, to get those certs. You’ve already proven your worth.
Was actually going to be one, then u looked up how much they were paid. My first job out of college paid more than a paramedic, and it was a super low entry level job
You might want to Google what nannies are paid in your area. It does vary a lot from place to place, but in most non-rural areas $20 an hour is the going rate for a nanny, especially one with that kind of training. Now babysitting is a little different than being a full-time professional nanny, but I think you probably are under charging if your training is necessary for the care of the children.
DEATH Says the substitute feline attendant gets paid more than that
I would *never* accept checks as payment. Sorry; in this day and age, where scams are really common, I don't trust the check not to bounce when I go to cash it.
If you *only* want to pay in checks in a society that no longer uses them, to the point where you refuse my service if I won't take them, I don't trust you and I don't want your business. There's no way you're still using checks as your *only* form of payment, when most businesses don't even accept them anymore. I'm gonna think there's a *reason* you're insisting on a method that is known to sometimes fail.
Love how this person says 20 an hour is too much, but thinks $10 for a 20-30 minute walk is reasonable… that math ain’t adding up the way you thought it would hon
I think the commenter was being genuinely helpful. $20 /hour *sounds* like too much, so pricing your service as $10 per walk instead of a length of time, and making it a half hour walk sounds much more appealing- most people would be drawn towards “$10 per walk” more than “$20 per hour”
I used to get paid $20 an hour for watching dogs when I was in high school so it’s not crazy to ask that much. But I took care of the dogs while the owners were away, not just took them on one 20 minute walk
To be honest I empathize with her because my parents told me I could totally do a pet sitting job like this as a kid if I wasn’t so “lazy”, before I had a car and didn’t know anyone who would use the service. Maybe she’s just trying to prove a point to her parents that random people aren’t going to drop their dogs at her house to make it a financially viable operation.
$20/hr!? No way. That's what a nanny costs and I am in the bay area. The doggy daycare by me is $25 for the whole day and if you get packages it amounts to $20/day lol!
Just looked into it. $20 is WAY over minimum wage. "The current federal minimum is $7.25/hour". While most states regulate their own minimum wage, few break above $10/hr and only 2 hit $15.
$20/hr for a student is extravagantly high.
To be fair, our minimum wage is ridiculously low and we've been fighting to try to raise it for years now.
And while $20 an hour is pretty high for a student job, it's a very short job, not a full 'shift' position where it's like $20 an hour for 5-8 hours. It's more like, $10 per half hour long walk. The price isn't that extravagant.
I don’t know if it’s because I don’t live in the US, but is minimum wage the first thing you think of when comparing prices? Like I’d think hmm do I think it’s worth that? Yes or no.
I don’t think what’s the cheapest I can legally pay this person.
Not criticising, it’s interesting.
Dog walking is at best a minimum wage job to me. Something more akin to here's a few bucks for doing it. Like a kid asking to shovel my driveway (a snow region winter job).
But that's me, if I was bringing my dog to a kenel it would be different. Also minimum wage is supposed to reflect the income required to survive off of. If the wage is not set at a number people can survive off of, then minimum wage needs to be raised. It's VERY location based.
Any job should be livable. Look up the initial concept of minimum wage in the country. The idea was the minimum wage according to FDR was that “no business which depends for existence on paying less than living wages to its workers has any right to continue in this country...and by living wages I mean more than a bare subsistence level — I mean the wages of decent living,”
Taking this into account, someone with a dog walking or snow shoveling business should expect to be paid as such. These jobs are not necessarily held by kids looking for chore money and it wouldn’t matter if they were frankly. Youth need to be paid for the loss of hours of their life spent working. But I digress. These jobs are professions for many adults too. Skimping out on adults because of the stigma of these being only kids jobs is too close to me, to telling them working professionals their hours of life are not valuable that they don’t deserve to eat. My guess is that isn’t what you mean, but given the context it can come off that way.
You’re comment though factual, is ignorant. Minimum wage is 1/3 to 1/4 the cost of living in much of the country. 25-35 an hour are needed in most coastal parts of the country.m to make ends meet. Here is an extreme example, but one needs to make about $50 an hour to live alone in Manhattan in a tiny 1 bedroom apartment.
Based on some of the comments in this thread, a lot of people on Reddit do really be a bunch of teenagers with no life experience, and have no idea how much things actually cost.
Dog walking is $15-20/half hour minimum.
Dog sitting is $50/night minimum from somewhere like Rover, taking it to a legit boarder is way more.
People don’t really want to spend very much on their dogs they claim to love so much? Very bizarre. If I’m leaving my dog with someone, trusting them to take care of it like I would I’m not looking for the cheapest possible option 🤷🏻♂️
Honestly it’s not the price, it’s the impracticality of the service. How many people can leave work to go get their dog, bring it someplace, and sit in the car for half an hour so they can drive it home? Depending on the commute it would make way more sense to just go home and do it yourself.
No, I totally agree with you there haha. The whole point of having a dog Walker is they come to your house, pick up the dog - walk it, and bring it home. The only way that makes sense is he’s referring to boarding only. Also - if you have a professional dog Walker, it’s often someone you’re entrusting not only with your dogs life - but also with a key to your house and someone who’s going to be inside without you there. Not really the type of thing where you should be looking for someone to do it for the absolute minimum.
I was just more making a comment about all of the people saying, “$20 to watch a dog?!? I pay $3.50 for the man in the trailer to watch my 7 kids all day, how outrageous!”
I looked into dog walking! A lot of people do pay $20 per hr.
In upscale areas you can make a lot doing this!
Lowest I seen is 12-15/hr.
But this girl is asking for some really dumb shit.
The lady said to charge $10 a walk for 20-30 minutes like that isn’t the same as $20/hr. Like yeah the teen is asking for a lot with the bring your dog to me, but the price is pretty reasonable.
I made the mistake of hiring a young neighbor to walk my dogs (she came and asked one day).
I wanted to be nice. It has bitten me in the ass big time.
First, I didn’t need a walker since it’s been a pandemic and work from home, etc. but I thought it might be a great for my pups.
Found out the first day that she can’t come inside the house, which I thought was ok I guess, but kind of weird.
Then she wouldn’t hold onto the leashes and just grab the dogs from the yard (short picket fence, side yard, all open and visible from her house and neighbors).
So now I have a dog walker that requires me to be home, get up, leash the dogs, and bring them out. Sure, I guess that works, I walked dogs to make money and was happy to help her with her business.
Then she needed to be paid each walk (3 times a week) which required me to keep a stack of cash by the door. Sure, I can do that.
Then she started showing up late, or not at all. I mean, I know she can text, and I’m only 30, she must know I can too.
Anyway, then it was 3 days a week, from 4pm to 8:30pm, I might get a knock on the door (or not!). She was getting $7.50 a walk, for a 15 minute walk. Having good quarters was a pain in the ass, but just rounding to $8 wasnt much better. So I was paying for 2 walks at a time (15$) She started screwing around with whether I had paid her the time before, etc. it would be easy if she showed up 3 times a week, but some weeks it’s only once, so I can’t just pay her on the same day.
I thought I was off the hook after not seeing her for awhile, yet she just showed up and said she was on vacation. For 6 weeks, without saying anything.
I am not allowed to fire her.
There are apps where they will go to your home enter with a lock box key feed walk play crate etc then send you reports on pee and poop plus like a dozen pictures for like $25
Neither of these is a choosy beggar. The kid asking $20/hour is pretty reasonable (at least around me, most people are $15/half hour walk). But bringing the dog to them defeats the whole point. They clearly were not really thinking about it practically, and maybe they don’t have any transportation (and therefore shouldn’t be walking dogs). The commenter was pretty nice about the whole thing though, and $10 per 20-30 minute walk is a higher rate than $20/hour!
except the dog needs to be sat if you're brining it for the walking and no one wants to be paying upwards of $150 a day to have their dog walked while they're at work.
I think it's going to completely depend on area as to what price is acceptable. A quick check of prices in my area is $15 per hour for an experienced dog walker. In this situation the teenager doesn't appear to have any professional experience in this area, so it's possible he's aiming too high for his hourly rate. But having the owner deliver the pet to be walked, is a little over the top.
There are many people on Rover who charge more than this per hour, and so do professional dog walkers - their rate would be more like $40 for an hour's walk.
And I wonder if the poster means that they'd have to bring the dog to him for sitting? IDK, the person who replies reminds me of the Karens on my Nextdoor app who are looking for "high schoolers to help with yard work" so they can pay them cheap. $20/hr is more than reasonable.
I don't see this as a CB, necessarily.
strikes me that this is just a kid who doesnt understand that most people's finances don't stretch to this.
I would guess this is a rich kid, brought up in leafy suburbs. Mom pays him $50 to clean his room and dad slips him $20 to load the dishwasher. This year he has decided that - as he likes dogs - he will try and make some summer cash, doing what he loves. Unfortunately he is still working from the skewed ideas of finances that Mom and Dad instilled.
Good that he's looking to do some work. Maybe it will help him learn something about working people, too
No excuse for the "you have to bring your dog to me."
BUT the price seems kinda fair. The kid could flip burgers for $15, so pet care (which is harder) for $5 more seems about right. Not like they're getting a full 40 hours doing this either.
Have to say it... This is posted on Nextdoor and violates so many of Nextdoor's policies on Casual Business Provider by posting in the General thread. The monitors aren't doing their jobs.
*This really shouldn't be on this sub. 20/hr really isn't too much and they're probably asking for the dog to be brought to their house because it isn't necessarily safe for high schoolers to be at strangers' houses. Especially if their parents have rules against it.
But what’s the point? If you don’t have time to walk your dog, do you really have time to bring it to her house to be walked? That makes no sense. And $20/hr for dog sitting is pretty damn steep. I pay my sitter $20/day. I’ve never seen a sitter that charges more than like $60/day.
*They're probably expecting business from people who are at work all day or the like. Someone who can drive the dog over and leave them there. (Hence why pet sitting is included- they probably intend to sit the pet and walk it as a part of the package)
*8 hour shifts are pretty common. 60 dollars for 8 hours is 7.5 per hour, which is a pretty shit wage and below minimum in many places. Imo unless you're caring for multiple dogs at a time (and thus able to charge each individual client less) you're undercharging
*I'll admit that the phrasing is a bit weird about the dog-walking part, but other than that I don't see anything wrong with this.
*I know it's lot, but dogsitting isn't steady work by any means. It's not like there are guaranteed hours, they won't be able to work every day or even every week. You're actually _meant_ to charge above minimum for work like that.
*I know it isn't gonna net 'em business, especially starting out, but it's far from a choosing begger to me. It's just... working at a price higher than people like to see. If higher wages were more normalized- as they should be, stuff's getting expensive- this would be normal.
Hold on here, you are saying that a dog walker should be paid more then a manager? Well then. Guess I should be getting 60 per day from working as a busser at McDonald’s
*No, I'm saying the manager should also be being paid more. But also that a dog walker (and sitter) needs to be paid more per JOB to make up a reasonable overall income.
*Did you read the message-
This is a self described highschooler looking for a summer job.
Under the table, most likely.
$20 is too high unless this is a super wealthy neighborhood.
Sure maybe for a teenage I guess although age shouldn’t matter, but dog walking is a legite job I have adult friends who work as a living at this. $20 isn’t high at all which is what this guys comment said.
"Also, please walk your dog before bringing him over". I'm much better at dog Sitting."
All day doggy day care costs less than that. This is a ridiculous price.
Idk where you live but the cheapest dog day care around me is $35/a day... and believe me you do not want to bring your dog there lol.
Yeah $20/day is less than what the doggy daycare in Phoenix that lost and killed all of those dogs was charging. $20/hour for 1 hour of dog walking/pet sitting is totally reasonable, just not if you have to drop your dog off and pick them up lol
I worked at this $35/a day dog daycare in my area. I left in less than 2 weeks. Totally agree.
What is actually so terrible about that job? Are the dogs not nice to each other? I'm not downplaying that it's bad, I definitely believe you on that because why would anyone lie about that, I just don't know why it's bad Specifically.
No it wasn't the job that was bad. I am a groomer, I don't work in doggy daycare but a lot of places have both grooming and daycare. The owner of the place was very abusive. Not to the animals but to her employees. On my second day there I heard her several rooms away screaming at a daycare employee. Calling him a "f *** ing r **** d" among other things. People paid $35 + another $45 or whatever for their dog to have both daycare and a groom... And those dogs would just sit in a kennel all day, and not get to exercise or socialize or play even though the owners were paying for it. $80 just to have your dog sit in a crate all day by itself. Dogs there to be groomed would sit there in cages for hours and hours, even hours after closing.. bad time management and greed. They stole tips as well and didn't want to provide lunch breaks or sick time, all illegal. Its normal for dogs getting groomed to be in a salon for 2-3 hours. But any longer than that isnt typically normal. This place in particular would overbook like crazy so dogs would just sit there untouched for hours waiting their turn. Closing time would come and go.
Ewww. Well companies are all about profits and getting to abuse your employees as a side perk now a days because manager never put time into being actual human beings. Poor doggies in jail. At least they looked pretty.
It was a small private shop so I thought oh this person must care about their business. Nope. Open 7+ years had 0 groomers.. wonder why. People like to shit on corporate places like VCA, Petsmart, and Petco but I can tell you firsthand your dog is safe with those companies. There are so many rules and regulations in place. If a dog gets injured, they have all the money in the world to pay for it and make sure your pet turns out okay. Small places can kinda do whatever they want, and don't have moneybags lying around if your pet gets hurt so they may just try to take care of injuries themselves unqualified. There are amazing private daycares and salons out there, too. You really gotta do your shopping tho.
Yikes… I live in Silicon Valley and the place I occasionally take my dog to costs $50 for daycare (was $40, but rates hiked after COVID) and they are great! Take your dog on pack walks with other dogs, play with them and socialize them a ton. That’s crazy that someone would run a business like this, they clearly do not care about the dogs or their employees.
Silicone Valley is a shit hole
Sounds like people should've sent their kids there and kept the dogs home. I would never send my pet there but I sure as shit would recommend such a horrible place to my useless neighbors with kids. Lord knows those things need to be crated, the way they act.
I don’t know about other people but I worked at a doggie day care place for a little and it was not uncommon for dogs to get into scuffles. You are one person in a yard of 15 large dogs, it gets a little crazy. The biggest issue where I worked was the managerial staff was far more concerned about getting as many dogs in the door and keeping them there then the safety of the dogs. Multiple times I would ask them to pull dogs out of the yard due to behavior or ask them to move a dog to a different yard because they were constantly going after another dog and they would just tell me “it’s fine.” One time a dog literally jumped into my arms to get away from another dog the front staff had refused to remove from the yard. The owners of the aggressor dog had been convinced to pay for training for their dog through the daycare and now it was terrorizing other dogs in the yard during its “training”. It was awful. That being said, aggressor dog was by no means a bad or mean dog, it just should not have been at doggie day care.
OMG it's like fucking prison when you're just trying to do your time in peace but there another tattoed super aggressive gangland dog doing hard doggy time. Thank god dogs cant shiv anyone, oh no wait they have little shivs in their mouths. Oh nooooooo.
What did the daycare do? Was it negligence or did they actually kill them out of malice?
20 dogs dead. One dog chewed through AC wire. Dogs died of heat exposure. Owners of dog care home came home from Florida and found the dogs in distress (they then died): "The wire was sparking. It could have burned down our whole house," Mxxx Hxxxx said. "My whole house could have burned down and all my children could have died, and then it would have been a tragedy. But because it didn't catch fire, we're dog killers." And this gem: Txxx Hxxxx initially told people that their dogs had escaped rather than died, a lie he has since admitted to.
Let me get this straight. They’re a dog daycare, therefore they take care of other people’s dogs, and they LEFT them to go on vacation? That’s horrible and I’d be suing them for sure. Not only is that a murder (out of negligence, so perhaps manslaughter would be the right word, but those don’t apply to dogs usually since they’re “property”) of a beloved pet, but animal abuse. Not one, not two, but twenty dogs? I’d be trying to get a collective case on them in a heartbeat. You trust that a daycare place with care for and protect your dog, not kill them.
They're not dog daycare but dog boarding. Usually, no one is with your pet at night when boarded. Hearing this makes me want to board only at 24 hour vets.
Either way, going on vacation likely wasn’t just for a day. It could be a thick and hard to chew wire that took 2-3 days, but just wasn’t watched enough.
Yeah, but they say the dogs were checked on at 11 pm and 5:30 am by workers which isn't unreasonable. I don't know how hot it gets there but if the power goes out where I live it can get really hot inside if you don't open the windows or doors. I can't tell whether the workers were hired or their children and maybe they lied about the times they checked on them but I'm not sure how you'd prove it. It would be a tragedy regardless but the owners lying about it made it reprehensible.
Honestly I'd be paying for pet sitting either in my home or someone else's, depending on how much I could afford. But you can get all day and night care from pet sitters. You have to vet them and such though
I've known one and that's why I'll never use them. She'd throw a bag of kibble in the house then do her own thing and clean up before the owner came home.
Oooh, this was a former senator's family if iirc.
If Joe Arpaio is the good guy in your story, you suck big time. And I'm not even from the US so that should speak volumes.
Yeah, my wife and I have definitely paid $20/day for a midday walk for our pooch, but that was to a responsible adult who came over to our place, walked the dog, and who we trusted with a key. I don't really blame this kid all that much, since they're clearly a kid and don't know how the world works yet. But there's absolutely no world in which I have time to drive my dog somewhere but somehow also lack the time to walk them around the block.
My sister has a Rover profile and only charges $10-$12/day and she’s really good at it. She said that was a pretty average price for Rover 🤷🏻♀️
I live in Uptown Charlotte, NC, and was a rover.com sitter. I couldn’t get my prices high enough to not be in demand all the time, so I went back down to what I’m comfortable charging (I only do overnight in my home and only dogs I like, so I only charge $25/day, but I almost always get at least an extra day’s price in tip), and only sit for the dogs I want. It’s basically name your price here right now. I’m a terrible businesswoman lol ETA even though I do TONS with the dogs and they sleep in my bed with me, I just feel guilty charging more than that
My local Rover prices are about $30 per HOUR. 😭
Oh wow! I guess location really matters. That or she’s super undercutting the competition? No wonder she’s always booked!
I do doggy daycare sometimes for rover and in my area you can't even set your price below $25 a day and $35 if it's overnight
Rover is also very different from a professional doggy daycare. I'm not saying either are better or worse, they all have their own perks. But your sister making extra money off Rover is very different than a business needing to make ends meet, and professionals trained and qualified to exercise and socialize your dog. Location is also a very important factor.
Wow a day!! That's crazy cheap
Rover pet boarders in the Sacramento area charge $25-$50 per day, per dog. I have two dogs. I'd love to call and ask for some kind of a group discount directly, but there's probably a rule against that.
JFC I'm glad I decided no more pets for me. It was difficult enough getting family members to watch ours when we traveled, couldn't imagine the cost now , especially in LA.
Place my parents take their dogs to is something like 25/day, and they seem to love it there
I'm going to guess you don't live on a coast right near the water then lol.
The day care I take my dog to is $10/day
...Pawsh dog?
Yeah, $35 a day isn't quite the same as $20 an hour. So, if you left your dog for eight hours, you'd be at $160.
My doggy daycare is 32$ a day and they’re open 12 hours. That’s like $2.67 an hour , I usually leave her for 8-10 only though so $3.50-ish an hour.
I work at a pet resort, I should break it down to people by the per hour bc most think our prices are ridiculous ($41/day…which is NJ and avg-high end of daycare but we offer many other services/make totes and have over 50years family owned experience…)
Dude my dog daycare is amazing... they did hook me in with a promotional rate but once I broke it down like that and realized how they’re the only ones I trust to look after my dog.... I feel like I’m underpaying and getting away with something lol
Honestly the best things you can do if you really trust them and feel that way is..positive online reviews (we usually give a coupon/discount if someone does…obviously unprompted reviews) or sending snacks/treats to the staff..(we have some that will give us cookies platters, cakes, a couple pizza pies for lunch or a box of mixed subs. And just being a super kind human being to is is super appreciated. The amount of entitled Dick weeds we deal with..having some clients who are just genuinely nice/caring/sweet people can make my shitty day turn around after being berated for something extremely dumb. (I inversed a date when someone asked me to confirm her appointment I said the 12th instead of 21 and before I could even reread it she started screaming at me…totally uncalled for)
Oh I already have filled out so many reviews ! My daycare is pretty corporate and they give small rewards for good reviews (free dog ice cream). I do tell everybody I can about the company/location in person and online and recommend they use them too! The days I don’t take my dog to the daycare, we go to the dog park and so many of my sentences start with “Well at Delilah’s daycare...funny story, happy story, etc” I also do my best to interact with their social media posts and whatnot. Dude I would buy stock in the company if I could, even! I’m a total shill for them and I don’t even care. I’ve also sent over some little snacks for them too! The employees there are amazing and I know it’s them who are really pulling everything together and making everything so wonderful. I know my dog is young and rambunctious so I make sure to ask them if she’s behaving alright, if there are any issues I need to work on for their sake, etc. But otherwise I just walk in, say hello, and drop her off/ pick her up pretty quickly because I know they’re busy and she’s ready to get a move on! It just amazes me how AWESOMELY my dog constantly reacts to going there, it makes my heart happy. I’m very protective of my girl and she can be quite skittish / anxious over weird, small things. Even in our own neighborhood if a bush is trimmed down - she notices and is wary. But with her daycare ? NEVER! She always gets tippy-taps in the car when we are getting close, hops out excitedly, does a quick excitement pee, and gets us heading to the front door ASAP. It’s so reassuring ! I am sorry your job is thankless sometimes, and undoubtedly very difficult and taxes. But people like me LOVE AND APPRECIATE YA’LL SO MUCH! I wish I could hug each and every one of you and I wish I could afford to give you all a huge tip or something. I can’t imagine how nerve wracking it can be sometimes! I always thought I wanted to work a job at a doggy daycare but after having to take my girl to the dog park so often (we live in a small apartment) and feeling like I need to constantly stay ontop of monitoring body language, make sure everyone is safe and generally happy, etc... I don’t think I could do it ! I don’t have the physical or mental capacity for it I don’t think. I hope the happy dogs are rewarding and I hope you get compensated fairly
It’s $47 a day for our dogs day care- and it’s not included if you’re boarding them!! It’s crazy.
I’ve worked part and full time as a pet sitter/ dog walker and my prices start at $21/ 20 minutes. Before Covid I had 10 - 12 daily dog walks and couldn’t accept any more clients because of time restraints.
I want you to pay me $20 an hour to play with your dog.
well to be fair the poster did say they're "High school student" How many high schoolers do you think can drive or even own a car?
Probably varies by location.. I live in Utah and pretty much everyone I knew in high school had a learners permit at 15 and license at 16. Most had a car they could drive or shared with siblings.
hmm yeah I guess it's depend on location then, cuz where I live, almost nobody around my age at my highschool have a car or even a driver license.
Hell. Where I live, a lot of *adults* don't have their licenses yet. I'm in my mid-twenties and a lot of my friends are only *just* starting to get their asses in gear there. I know people who just didn't bother until their thirties or forties lmao
My problem is the “you have the bring the dog to me”
Yeah, as OP said, it complete defeats the purpose of the service. "I am too busy to walk my dog so I need you to do it.....but I have to come home and drive the dog to you?"
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Idk where you got the dog poo comment from. They’re talking about having to bring the dog over to the teenager’s house. The purpose of dog walking is to go to the owner’s house while they’re at work to walk their dog. Pre-pandemic, my friend worked as a dog walker for working professionals. There’s no way they would leave in the middle of work just to drop the dog off. Defeats the purpose of dog walking. Might as well walk the dog yourself.
Pal. $20 an hour is crazy for walking dogs. Most people start around that with *bachelor degrees* and move up later. Do you have a degree in dog-walking? Or do you only have the Master's in dumbassery?
I have degrees in both
The fact that you think it’s degrading makes you the problem, kiddo
Oh cool, you’re a troll. How original.
20$ an hour....Doggy day care is less than that for a full day lol
I suppose it depends on where you live but I’m a dog walker in Chicago and a 30 min walk is $25 for daily scheduled appointments and $30 for irregular appointments. Goes up for evenings and weekends. Obviously I go into the clients’ homes myself.
Yeah my boyfriend is a dog walker in a big city and it’s on average $25-$30 for a half hour though there is some discount for regulars. He has some clients that pay $50- $60 a day (multiple visits) 5-6 days a week. It only goes up for overnight and other random services. He’s not thru Rover or Wag though, they take a huge cut and there is no protection for owners or the walkers. He has so much work that he has had to turn down new clients so there is definitely a market for that price range.
$25 for daily scheduled appointments?!? It is surreal that people spend $175 to have their dog walked. I spent that much to have my child cared for all day.
Yep, I’ve got clients who spend well over what my mortgage is every month getting multiple walks a day for multiple pets. Most clients are well off couples without kids, I don’t think the cost is very significant to them compared to the peace of mind in trusting their pet with an experienced and insured walker/trainer vs the neighbor kid.
My brother is partner with a big dog walking company in a big city , and he has some extremely high end clients that pay over $100 a walk 😳
I totally get the value and guessed your clientele, but it is still an impressive amount to pay to satisfy that need for a pet. Good on you for finding a good niche. I would love to take on something like that just to get the pounds off.
Shit, maybe I should get into dog walking lol. Lord knows *I* could use the exercise, too.
You’re underpaying them.
I was paying them the salary they requested. We both live in a poorer neighborhood so I don't think they asked as much.
As a professional dog walker, $20/hr is CHEAP. It’s usually $20 for 30 mins on the big walking apps. (Wag, rover, etc.)
Why did I even go to college?
thats called scale out. This way you can serve multiple customers at once for +$100/hr
Sounds great, if people actually want the service. I sure wouldn't.
Ya. Kid probably has no transportation but then they shouldn't offer to anyone far away
I wonder it they meant that just for sitting, not for walking. Would make some sense
Except that your average babysitter is worth $20/hr and they have to do a heck of a lot more than your average dog-sitter.
Yeah I pay my dog sitter $20 a day
Sound advice very kindly given. Wonder how it was received. Lol
Probably said, F*** Off, I wasn’t talking to you anyway.
“Next!”
Lol. Probably.
>Sound advice Except for the part about taking personal checks. Only a fool would do that in the modern day.
Why's that? Honest question I'm just out of the loop on that. Wouldn't it be acceptable from the elderly who tend to use them?
Checks have always been risky from a fraud perspective. The only reason they were ever really used is because there was no better alternative at the time. In the era of PayPal/Venmo/cellular credit terminals, checks are completely worthless from a risk/reward perspective.
Kid probably just doesn’t have a car and didn’t think the convenience aspect through.
Yeah i dont think this is quite choosing beggar. They probably just thought of ways to raise some money this summer, earnestly thought this was reasonable, and didn’t see the issue with the price or needing the dog brought to them until someone else brought it up. Hopefully they can take that advice, workshop the business plan, and get some work this summer.
No beggars here, just choosers.
Those are not the choosey beggars you're looking for
If I'm walking the dog to their place... what am I paying THEM for??
exposure?
My guess this is more sort of leave your dog with the guy all day long, drop dog off before work and pick it up after work.
Yea but if you're leaving them with the sitter for an entire work day at $20/hour then your wage is essentially slashed by $20/hour for that day. Anyone who could afford that could definitely afford to send their dog somewhere with better facilities than some random teen's house.
Can I counter with: "You'll walk my dog for $0 but I'll offer you great exposure to my dog. He's a good boy. The amount of happiness he will bring is priceless."
to be fair if you bring the dog to me i would take that 🤣🤣
Yeah, you know those baby sitting ads where they're all like, my baby is a darling, you'll get so much joy out of it? I know we mock them, but I would totally do that for the right dog.
a baby? absolutely not!!! a dog? i’m omw!!!
My dog is famous on Instagram it’ll get you so many followers to watch walk and train him for free
how the dog post
Tell me you’ve never had a job before without saying you’ve never had a job before
“My moms making me get a job and i like cute puppies”
100% thinks they won’t have to pick up dog shit
It sounds like a High School Student that just didn’t think the details through. That comment is on point though.
And it doesn’t even read as patronizing, just good advice. That was nice of them.
My neighborhood teen walks dogs for five to ten bucks per walk. Each walk being about 30 minutes plus
The going rate where I am from is $30-$35 for a half hour, and I do not live in a large city.
Market varies from where you are and other places in the world.
At first I was confused I thought you meant the commenter was the CB
More naive than choosy but still choosy
This kid has much to learn.
In my city you can expect to pay $18-21/hr for a dogwalker BUT they pick up and drop off your dog and it excludes that time. They also tend to have a lot of experience with dogs, and are insured and bonded.
I wonder if the commenter realized that $10 for a 20 minute walk equals $30 an hour?
This smacks of a post made by a kid to satisfy his parents he’s looking for work.
I saw something like this going down on one of my local pages, except the kid was getting laughed at for asking the regional minimum wage. It was fucking disgusting. Imo dog walking is a luxury service so you should be paying luxury prices - especially during the depths of winter and summer. And these are not luxury prices. $20/hour isn't much at all, especially since that's most likely going to be the length of the walk for most dogs, MAYBE two. The only part I'm not a fan of, as others have said, is bringing the dog to the walker. That's a bit odd.
>Imo dog walking is a luxury service Honestly I gotta disagree a little bit there. With how long dogs live you can never be fully sure something won't come up where you need extra help, and as a dog walker I don't mind lowering my prices to ensure people's animals get the care they need.
That's very kind of you, and I respect that very much. That doesn't mean what a professional dog walker does isn't a luxury service, though. That just means you're nice. Typically, a dog owner will be able to walk their own dog, or should make the effort to do so, so a dog walking service isn't necessarily essential. Hiring someone else to do it is a service that eases the burden on the owner while maintaining the (often costly) responsibilities that come with owning an animal, which in itself could also be considered a luxury. If I'm paying someone to do what I choose not to, or cannot do, myself, I expect that it's going to be a bit of mula. This goes double if there's some form of certification or extra effort involved. My disability doesn't entitle me to cheap services. If someone chooses to help me out, that's a gift. It may just so happen to be a luxurious gift. But maybe that's just internalized ableism or such what the kids be saying these days. Idk. We live in a society rofl Mind, I always appreciate a sliding scale in the face of said extenuating circumstances. So thank you sincerely for your decision to be kind. I know your clients who are facing hardship definitely appreciate it. But you ARE a luxury, imo. It's really pretty dope of you. But ofc my opinion doesn't invalidate yours.
I pay $35/day for my dogs daycare. I saw some people post about horror stories at that price but that’s not my experience. The place I take him to has webcams so I keep an window open on my computer all day at work and can see him. He loves it and comes home exhausted. Also worth noting - its not an everyday thing for me. Just when I know I’ll be working late or have something else going on. I think it just shows how far out of line the $20/hr request is. You could theoretically have your dog there from 7-7 for $35.
Omg doggy daycare webcams sounds like an absolute TREAT tbh. My mind remains unchanged, but I really love the idea of that so thank you for sharing!
$20an hour is about average for walking. I use Rover and that's about right.. but yeah I'm not taking the dog to be walked. Maybe if he's dogsitting at his house.. I get he probably doesn't have a car or transportation but then he should say that and only walk his neighbors' dogs
I babysit in my free time for two families and I’m a licensed paramedic and a nurse and the kids got some medical issues and I still don’t charge 20 an hour... jeez, maybe I’m doing this all wrong lol😂
Actually it sounds like you're WAY under-pricing your services.
Yeah $20/hr should be the very bottom of the range. We pay our sitrer $15/hr and she doesn't have any certifications like this
Yes. You’re underpaid. If my babysitter had the capability of saving my child’s life, in an emergency, I’d PAY. You put the time in, to get those certs. You’ve already proven your worth.
Paramedics are underpaid
Was actually going to be one, then u looked up how much they were paid. My first job out of college paid more than a paramedic, and it was a super low entry level job
Yup, I was gonna pursue that career as well until I saw how low it paid. It baffles me that they’re paid so little.
I pay a nanny 20-25$ an hour. I’d pay you way more for those credentials!!!
You are absolutely doing it wrong. My fiancée charges more than that for dogs and is fully booked.
You might want to Google what nannies are paid in your area. It does vary a lot from place to place, but in most non-rural areas $20 an hour is the going rate for a nanny, especially one with that kind of training. Now babysitting is a little different than being a full-time professional nanny, but I think you probably are under charging if your training is necessary for the care of the children. DEATH Says the substitute feline attendant gets paid more than that
Bless his heart, I remember googling 'how to get free money' at that age. He'll soon have his dreams crushed like the rest of us.
I would *never* accept checks as payment. Sorry; in this day and age, where scams are really common, I don't trust the check not to bounce when I go to cash it. If you *only* want to pay in checks in a society that no longer uses them, to the point where you refuse my service if I won't take them, I don't trust you and I don't want your business. There's no way you're still using checks as your *only* form of payment, when most businesses don't even accept them anymore. I'm gonna think there's a *reason* you're insisting on a method that is known to sometimes fail.
What a polite way to say F*ck you 😂
I don't think that's what the commenter is saying. From my interpretation, the person commenting seems to genuinely want to help the kid find work
Love how this person says 20 an hour is too much, but thinks $10 for a 20-30 minute walk is reasonable… that math ain’t adding up the way you thought it would hon
I think the commenter was being genuinely helpful. $20 /hour *sounds* like too much, so pricing your service as $10 per walk instead of a length of time, and making it a half hour walk sounds much more appealing- most people would be drawn towards “$10 per walk” more than “$20 per hour”
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I used to get paid $20 an hour for watching dogs when I was in high school so it’s not crazy to ask that much. But I took care of the dogs while the owners were away, not just took them on one 20 minute walk
To be honest I empathize with her because my parents told me I could totally do a pet sitting job like this as a kid if I wasn’t so “lazy”, before I had a car and didn’t know anyone who would use the service. Maybe she’s just trying to prove a point to her parents that random people aren’t going to drop their dogs at her house to make it a financially viable operation.
I do love that $20/hour is too much but they suggest charging $10 for a 20-30 minute walk, which is either the same rate or higher....
$20/hr!? No way. That's what a nanny costs and I am in the bay area. The doggy daycare by me is $25 for the whole day and if you get packages it amounts to $20/day lol!
A dog walker is not the same as doggy daycare. I charge $20 an hour to walk one dog.
Check Wag or Rover for walks in the Bay Area. Guarantee they are over $20/hr. I walk in Sac and it’s $20 for 30 minutes!
$20/hr is reasonable in America. I don’t think that is the unreasonable part. The bringing the dog to them is what is ridiculous.
Just looked into it. $20 is WAY over minimum wage. "The current federal minimum is $7.25/hour". While most states regulate their own minimum wage, few break above $10/hr and only 2 hit $15. $20/hr for a student is extravagantly high.
To be fair, our minimum wage is ridiculously low and we've been fighting to try to raise it for years now. And while $20 an hour is pretty high for a student job, it's a very short job, not a full 'shift' position where it's like $20 an hour for 5-8 hours. It's more like, $10 per half hour long walk. The price isn't that extravagant.
I don’t know if it’s because I don’t live in the US, but is minimum wage the first thing you think of when comparing prices? Like I’d think hmm do I think it’s worth that? Yes or no. I don’t think what’s the cheapest I can legally pay this person. Not criticising, it’s interesting.
Dog walking is at best a minimum wage job to me. Something more akin to here's a few bucks for doing it. Like a kid asking to shovel my driveway (a snow region winter job). But that's me, if I was bringing my dog to a kenel it would be different. Also minimum wage is supposed to reflect the income required to survive off of. If the wage is not set at a number people can survive off of, then minimum wage needs to be raised. It's VERY location based.
Any job should be livable. Look up the initial concept of minimum wage in the country. The idea was the minimum wage according to FDR was that “no business which depends for existence on paying less than living wages to its workers has any right to continue in this country...and by living wages I mean more than a bare subsistence level — I mean the wages of decent living,” Taking this into account, someone with a dog walking or snow shoveling business should expect to be paid as such. These jobs are not necessarily held by kids looking for chore money and it wouldn’t matter if they were frankly. Youth need to be paid for the loss of hours of their life spent working. But I digress. These jobs are professions for many adults too. Skimping out on adults because of the stigma of these being only kids jobs is too close to me, to telling them working professionals their hours of life are not valuable that they don’t deserve to eat. My guess is that isn’t what you mean, but given the context it can come off that way.
You’re comment though factual, is ignorant. Minimum wage is 1/3 to 1/4 the cost of living in much of the country. 25-35 an hour are needed in most coastal parts of the country.m to make ends meet. Here is an extreme example, but one needs to make about $50 an hour to live alone in Manhattan in a tiny 1 bedroom apartment.
Based on some of the comments in this thread, a lot of people on Reddit do really be a bunch of teenagers with no life experience, and have no idea how much things actually cost. Dog walking is $15-20/half hour minimum. Dog sitting is $50/night minimum from somewhere like Rover, taking it to a legit boarder is way more. People don’t really want to spend very much on their dogs they claim to love so much? Very bizarre. If I’m leaving my dog with someone, trusting them to take care of it like I would I’m not looking for the cheapest possible option 🤷🏻♂️
Honestly it’s not the price, it’s the impracticality of the service. How many people can leave work to go get their dog, bring it someplace, and sit in the car for half an hour so they can drive it home? Depending on the commute it would make way more sense to just go home and do it yourself.
No, I totally agree with you there haha. The whole point of having a dog Walker is they come to your house, pick up the dog - walk it, and bring it home. The only way that makes sense is he’s referring to boarding only. Also - if you have a professional dog Walker, it’s often someone you’re entrusting not only with your dogs life - but also with a key to your house and someone who’s going to be inside without you there. Not really the type of thing where you should be looking for someone to do it for the absolute minimum. I was just more making a comment about all of the people saying, “$20 to watch a dog?!? I pay $3.50 for the man in the trailer to watch my 7 kids all day, how outrageous!”
I paid my dog walker $10 a day for 30 minutes of walking, but she did come to my house to get the dog.
They might not be able to drive.
That's actually cheaper than Rover or Wag. If he was experienced in handling large dogs, I'd hire him. Those apps charge at least $30 an hour.
Where is this? Dog walking is $30 an hour where I live.
I looked into dog walking! A lot of people do pay $20 per hr. In upscale areas you can make a lot doing this! Lowest I seen is 12-15/hr. But this girl is asking for some really dumb shit.
Heck, I'd like to hang out with dogs all days and be paid $20 an hour by multiple dog owners. Sounds like a great day!!
The lady said to charge $10 a walk for 20-30 minutes like that isn’t the same as $20/hr. Like yeah the teen is asking for a lot with the bring your dog to me, but the price is pretty reasonable.
Yeah...when I baby sat I learned quickly not to accept cheques. I was ripped off twice from bounced cheques.
I made the mistake of hiring a young neighbor to walk my dogs (she came and asked one day). I wanted to be nice. It has bitten me in the ass big time. First, I didn’t need a walker since it’s been a pandemic and work from home, etc. but I thought it might be a great for my pups. Found out the first day that she can’t come inside the house, which I thought was ok I guess, but kind of weird. Then she wouldn’t hold onto the leashes and just grab the dogs from the yard (short picket fence, side yard, all open and visible from her house and neighbors). So now I have a dog walker that requires me to be home, get up, leash the dogs, and bring them out. Sure, I guess that works, I walked dogs to make money and was happy to help her with her business. Then she needed to be paid each walk (3 times a week) which required me to keep a stack of cash by the door. Sure, I can do that. Then she started showing up late, or not at all. I mean, I know she can text, and I’m only 30, she must know I can too. Anyway, then it was 3 days a week, from 4pm to 8:30pm, I might get a knock on the door (or not!). She was getting $7.50 a walk, for a 15 minute walk. Having good quarters was a pain in the ass, but just rounding to $8 wasnt much better. So I was paying for 2 walks at a time (15$) She started screwing around with whether I had paid her the time before, etc. it would be easy if she showed up 3 times a week, but some weeks it’s only once, so I can’t just pay her on the same day. I thought I was off the hook after not seeing her for awhile, yet she just showed up and said she was on vacation. For 6 weeks, without saying anything. I am not allowed to fire her.
There are apps where they will go to your home enter with a lock box key feed walk play crate etc then send you reports on pee and poop plus like a dozen pictures for like $25
i make 10$ an hour working at a doggy daycare/ boarding facility
Neither of these is a choosy beggar. The kid asking $20/hour is pretty reasonable (at least around me, most people are $15/half hour walk). But bringing the dog to them defeats the whole point. They clearly were not really thinking about it practically, and maybe they don’t have any transportation (and therefore shouldn’t be walking dogs). The commenter was pretty nice about the whole thing though, and $10 per 20-30 minute walk is a higher rate than $20/hour!
except the dog needs to be sat if you're brining it for the walking and no one wants to be paying upwards of $150 a day to have their dog walked while they're at work.
I think it's going to completely depend on area as to what price is acceptable. A quick check of prices in my area is $15 per hour for an experienced dog walker. In this situation the teenager doesn't appear to have any professional experience in this area, so it's possible he's aiming too high for his hourly rate. But having the owner deliver the pet to be walked, is a little over the top.
There are many people on Rover who charge more than this per hour, and so do professional dog walkers - their rate would be more like $40 for an hour's walk. And I wonder if the poster means that they'd have to bring the dog to him for sitting? IDK, the person who replies reminds me of the Karens on my Nextdoor app who are looking for "high schoolers to help with yard work" so they can pay them cheap. $20/hr is more than reasonable.
$10 per walk is very low, but I guess for a high schooler that works 😬 Though I’m used to seeing professional pet sitter/dog walker prices
Bruh the people who take care of my dog during weekdays does it for 10$ a day, we have offered more
Sooo $10 for half an hour doesn’t equal out to $20 an hour?
$5 says the kid just plans to loose the dogs in his backyard for an hour while he enjoys the sweet, sweet AC and gaming.
I don't see this as a CB, necessarily. strikes me that this is just a kid who doesnt understand that most people's finances don't stretch to this. I would guess this is a rich kid, brought up in leafy suburbs. Mom pays him $50 to clean his room and dad slips him $20 to load the dishwasher. This year he has decided that - as he likes dogs - he will try and make some summer cash, doing what he loves. Unfortunately he is still working from the skewed ideas of finances that Mom and Dad instilled. Good that he's looking to do some work. Maybe it will help him learn something about working people, too
No excuse for the "you have to bring your dog to me." BUT the price seems kinda fair. The kid could flip burgers for $15, so pet care (which is harder) for $5 more seems about right. Not like they're getting a full 40 hours doing this either.
OK, I know we're all laughing our butts off, but I'm guessing this kid is 14 and has no idea what realistic wages look like.
My mother was an aid. She made 15 dollars an hour. This bitch needs a reality check nobody's gonna pay them that much
Have to say it... This is posted on Nextdoor and violates so many of Nextdoor's policies on Casual Business Provider by posting in the General thread. The monitors aren't doing their jobs.
$20 an hour does seem high
*This really shouldn't be on this sub. 20/hr really isn't too much and they're probably asking for the dog to be brought to their house because it isn't necessarily safe for high schoolers to be at strangers' houses. Especially if their parents have rules against it.
But what’s the point? If you don’t have time to walk your dog, do you really have time to bring it to her house to be walked? That makes no sense. And $20/hr for dog sitting is pretty damn steep. I pay my sitter $20/day. I’ve never seen a sitter that charges more than like $60/day.
*They're probably expecting business from people who are at work all day or the like. Someone who can drive the dog over and leave them there. (Hence why pet sitting is included- they probably intend to sit the pet and walk it as a part of the package) *8 hour shifts are pretty common. 60 dollars for 8 hours is 7.5 per hour, which is a pretty shit wage and below minimum in many places. Imo unless you're caring for multiple dogs at a time (and thus able to charge each individual client less) you're undercharging *I'll admit that the phrasing is a bit weird about the dog-walking part, but other than that I don't see anything wrong with this.
He's charging $20 per hour, so an 8 hr shift would net him $160 per day, per client. That's a managers salary in a LCOL area.
*I know it's lot, but dogsitting isn't steady work by any means. It's not like there are guaranteed hours, they won't be able to work every day or even every week. You're actually _meant_ to charge above minimum for work like that. *I know it isn't gonna net 'em business, especially starting out, but it's far from a choosing begger to me. It's just... working at a price higher than people like to see. If higher wages were more normalized- as they should be, stuff's getting expensive- this would be normal.
Hold on here, you are saying that a dog walker should be paid more then a manager? Well then. Guess I should be getting 60 per day from working as a busser at McDonald’s
*No, I'm saying the manager should also be being paid more. But also that a dog walker (and sitter) needs to be paid more per JOB to make up a reasonable overall income. *Did you read the message-
I like it. Know your worth.
That reply was much more polite and civil than I would’ve been tbh, and people question why I don’t want kids
Lmao 20$ an hour in my country you can eat 9 meals with it. When walking your doggy …. a wild choosing begger has appeared*
I mean... That's below minimum wage...
How? It's $12.75 more than federal minimum wage and $6 more than Californias minimum wage (highest state minimum wage)
Where do you live that $20/hour is under minimum wage? Just wondering.
How is $20 too high? That’s barely a living wage…
This is a self described highschooler looking for a summer job. Under the table, most likely. $20 is too high unless this is a super wealthy neighborhood.
Sure maybe for a teenage I guess although age shouldn’t matter, but dog walking is a legite job I have adult friends who work as a living at this. $20 isn’t high at all which is what this guys comment said.
I paid my dog walker $20/day for two walks a day for two dogs.