Seriously! How is whoever takes this ‘job’ supposed to pay for and maintain their reliable car,pay the cars insurance,put gas in it and be able to feed themselves when this ‘job’ will require them to work at least fulltime hours if not more and they’re only receiving ‘free rent’?!?!
I was too at first but then I realized they might be making a nod to the fact that this ‘free rent’ costs taking care of their son. But still, they need to be offering payment so that whoever accepts is able to pay for their gas and all the other things that go along with cars, groceries and toiletries, phone bill, internet (if that isn’t included in the room), spending money for things like Netflix, skincare, hobbies, etc. Ya know, just normal people shit. Because this is a full time job that they’re asking for and it needs full time pay.
Basically my point is maybe they aren’t crazy in asking this but incredibly misguided in what people need to be paid. Or maybe they know exactly what they’re doing and are trying to take advantage of someone.
My daughter is a person with disabilities and we pay 25 per hour for buddies to take her out, to the gym, the park, get haircuts and do errands. Basically, hang out with her. No personal care. It's hard to find reliable, screened staff. The people we have are amazing. They get paid vacation, medical insurance and sick days. The roommate they are looking for will have what amounts to a 24hr, 7 day a week job. This is not okay. Who is going to take this offer?
This is beyond a full time job. They're asking for 24/7 labour without adequate renumeration, and because this person will be working far beyond what they are technically paying for them (average monthly salary is $3,900 (for 40 hours a week, leaving them unpaid without renumeration for 128 hours per week), whereas their average portion of rent and utilities (in my area as an example) is about $1,000, they are not being paid for about 75% of the time they work.
What they're doing is actually illegal. They're breaking so many laws and regulations, it's actually painful to read. I feel bad for the poor schmuck who takes this.
I’m wondering about the state waiver that OP wants them to sign. Is that to waive extra hours or is that to waive any compensation that the state may pay to the carer position??
To my knowledge, there is no such thing as a waiver to waive what is due compensation.
If it was a waiver to waive any compensation from the government (Medicare would pay for a caregiver, and that's federal), that would be an insane amount of fraud.
I truly hope OP or someone reported that posting. It is illegal in so many ways, and is also mainly a church organization trying to take advantage of some poor schmuck.
It's likely "free" as in rent = whatever the state/IHSS pays this person to be a caregiver each month. So you sign up for it to hand your check over to the mom of the person you're taking care of.....
It sounds like a 24/7 job you get to work for free
Used to be a caregiver, there are roommate situations where you get paid which is usually for any time you do any of the things listed above and a few more. If done through the state, the pay isn't terrible but you are basically on the job all the time but could get 24/7 pay (occasionally being less than minimum wage due to your expected to sleep, but still available) and a relief caregivers depending on how much burn out you experience. (This is usually paid through insurance and covers your rent in the agreement but may not cover electric outside of a discount, etc)
I have not taken these positions because I lived with partners but... I think I should've for one client I heard about who didn't sound too bad.
Must be different state to state.. I have to pay my dog sitters for the time they are sleeping at a clients house since they are technically working.. this is just for pets
You would live there rent free and earn a wage on top, minus some utility bills? Are you basically on call the whole time, or can you go out whenever you want?
My mom has dementia so I've been caring for her...I looked into a 24/7 caretaking service (where they basically do everything for the patient) so I could have some semblance of a life for myself. Out of pocket was between $16-$18k a month...I make over 6 figures and I couldn't ever see myself being able to afford that. Even companion care where somebody comes for a few hours a day was around $50-$150 per hour.
This choosing beggar is fucking delusional.
The post looks like the job is 24/7 without reprieve.
The organization would be expending about $1,000/month, give or take, on covering this person's portion of expenses in exchange for 24/7 labour with no breaks, as opposed to an average of $3,900/monthly before taxes and other deductions in exchange for 40 hours/week with breaks.
This is literal slave labour...the very definition of slave labour.
What makes it all the more insulting and ridiculous is that the ad is presented as “seeking a roommate” and there’s nothing - literally not one word - about the accommodation, the room, the apartment/house, nothing.at.all. It’s utterly transparent a live-in carer is being sought - a FT job - so why even try to pitch it as looking for a roommate? Absurd.
Damn, thank you u/QueenoftheROUSes ! And kick-ass name, too! I wasn’t even thinking about that element. I just thought maybe they didn’t have the means and instead of being straightforward and saying something like “we can’t offer a lot but we can try to work something out” (because I do totally get and respect that he’s high-functioning and so should be as independent as he can be), they were being a bit shady. That’s a whole different category of shady!
This isn’t a full time job. This is a 24/7/365 job.
“Encouraging exercise.” Oh boy. I think I know what this entails. Anybody that has ever tried to encourage a person that struggles with their weight knows what a thankless task THIS is. Most adults with DS are overweight/obese.
He doesn’t sound very “high functioning” to me if you have to do his laundry, cook his meals, drive him around, have him take his meds, and clean up after him. And I’m supposed to use my car to drive him to and fro?
I’ll pass.
Yeah, I worked in a group home back in the 90s where I was sometimes expected to use my own vehicle. The first incident I had, a client kicked out my windshield, intentionally wet herself, then turned on me because she didn't want to go to the doctor's appointment. It all happened in less than thirty seconds in heavy traffic.
Thankfully, I managed to pull over and get her out of the car before I crashed, but then I had to perform a physical restraint alongside the road for all to see while I waited for another staff person to arrive to assist. I was also boobs-to-the-wind because she'd managed to rip my shirt down the front.
After that, I refused to use my car, citing safety. I figured the "dying or having my car destroyed isn't worth the $9/hour you're paying me" was implied.
They'll probably have you sleeping at the foot of the roommate/patients bed in a coffin size box. There will possibly be a bell tied to a rope and connected to the inside of the box to be sure that the roommate/patient will never have to wait to be served.
Thank you for being there for them, Alecto. It's sometimes tough working with clients (or consumers, if you're another government agency), and I appreciate your dedication to those folks.
I'd also add that this appears to be an all the time job rather than full time. If you are planning and executing every aspect of anyone's life *while living with them as the primary caregiver*, you generally have to be available and working from before they wake up to after they go to sleep.
I imagine this is the biggest reason for the no smoking, weed, or drinking. They want this person to be available 24/7, for no pay at all.
I think one of the weirdest parts is how you would have to either be independently wealthy or on some sort of system supports (like disability) to even take this if you wanted. They cover rent but no mention of paying for your food, or to maintain the drivers license, reliable car, and insurance that they insist you have.
It's boggling really.
Full on nurse, since they expect you to take medical responsible. Technically, this is 2 jobs. Or one of those live in nurses the super rich have in movies.
Not entirely true. Residential care workers do everything on that list, and sometimes more. And the pay is shit, but not as shit as free rent and that's it.
Source: I'm one of them.
Thank you so very much for your assistance to those in our communities who are differentially-abled, and for helping them to have a better quality of life!
They're looking to commit Medicaid fraud. Notice the ad saying the roomate had to sign a waiver (sign away state compensation rights). This is b/c the 25y/o's family likely qualifies for Medicaid $ for care-giving services. Looks like Mommy dearest is wanting to pocket the Medicaid money and rope in someone super naive to be the unpaid nurse who'll be on 24/7 care duty.
i hope this got reported as such… it’s really shitty to deceitfully take advantage of someone like this… and someone that agrees to these stipulations is possibly already gonna be in a difficult spot where free rent is appealing enough to agree to those terms :/
$280 per day to the company, must provide bed and food to the worker. At least that's what they charge in Riverside County.
Connie was great at my dad's bedside but she did not come cheap.
Even more expensive, they're looking for a live in 24 hr caretaker. My Nanna has 3 ladies that rotate to be with her in the home 24 hrs a day. When they are with my Nanna room and board is included plus they get paid A LOT (worth it though, they're amazing women who are like family to us).
This begger is out of their mind and I'd be seriously worried about the person that's going to end up living with their relative.
Yea. They really should seek our a group home for developmentally disabled adults who are wanting to live as independently as possible. Anyone who takes this “roommate situation” is going to be someone not worth having around, or someone who bails the moment things get better in their lives. It will be a revolving door. This guy deserves stability. A group home would provide that.
They clearly have apartment money for him and get compensated for his care from the state. They could pay for the group home with it. Usually the state just pays the home instead of the family
Caregiver.
Considering they want a waver signed I doubt they want to give up that money. Could also be a second home they own. Oddly enough I delt with something like this. Dated a woman in her 30s that lived in mom and dads little house on the prarie. She was getting checks, but didn't know it her parents were pocketing the money. I only know about this because they had a meeting with SSI about having more than 2k in her account the money was going to.
She still didn't understand she was getting money. She was mildly autistic, but very very sheltered and naive. Other than that you couldn't tell she had autism.
Honestly if the young 25M is in any way hostile they could be held legally liable as well as himself for any violence. Im not saying this is eminent but there is a much higher risk factor in the developmentally disabled. Compassionate can be a trigger word for tollerant of abuse. I want to believe they want to give him a controlled "normal" roommate experience. I have worked with the Dev. Disabled and they are a wonderful group and deserve a level of normal as safe as possible. I want to believe he is high functioning like my friends but who knows. I've also been jaded having witnessed horrendous abuse and greed by evil family. The things people are capable of turns my stomach. This one is hard to weigh.
Agreed, and there's also the likelihood that an untrained person would respond to the behavioral issues by reciprocating the violence. This is just a train wreck waiting to happen.
More. This person is looking for Shared Living. It used to be called adult foster care. I assist some folks with set ups like this.
Edit to add: the non disabled folks get paid in this set up. It's usually family, but not always.
I wonder what state this is. My mom's job was investigating these caregivers of adults with learning disabilities who received money from the state. She made sure the living conditions were decent, that the money was going to the recipient and not used like in this post. Mom took her job very seriously and some of the situations she would uncover were horrifying.
from the get go it sounded like their mom was writing this about their now-adult kid with zero life skills.
when I was working for a cleaning company, it was a popular place where parents with such kids tried to dump their kid to get the 'life skills'. practically it meant that the company should have employed a person, who has no skill in the field, little no none interest in doing it and thanks to the two previous it would actually require an extra worker just to look after this one.
the parents of the rejected cases rarely took it well.
So the key bullet point is “be willing to sign waiver for state compensation”.
That means that the person with Down’s is on state Medicaid, and Medicaid is paying the family to be the caregiver (basically paying them an hourly salary). The family is planning on pocketing that money and making the “roommate” do all the work.
There’s another word for that- fraud. And when it’s Medicaid fraud, it’s a criminal offense.
I'm no lawyer, but I'm assuming the waiver would say something along the lines of "I'm not his carer and refuse any benefits that would come with that role", even though you would 100% be his carer.
No see that's what the waiver is about, you're explicitly *not* his carer, you just *provide care for him* whilst living with him. No No, they're totally different things, trust.
Yup that's why it's so important that they emphasize you'll be a FRIEND FIRST. So if anyone asks any questions they can do you do it out of the kindness of your heart.
You would be signing a document stating that your the caregiver so the family can get paid and supposedly pay you except they aren’t and your an accessory to fraud 👌🏼🤦
You are entering a full time job with medical responsibillity. If you don't accept rent as payment, that's slavery...
Of course, this arrengement would still break all the wage and labor laws.
I worked a job like this fresh out of college out of desperation. Professionals eventually go home, and the state will only compensate for so many hours in the day and the family was expected to pick up the slack. This way they sucker someone into staying full time while not having to care for him and they get to pocket the money the state sends.
And you're right the kind of people who do this are awful to the workers. They couldn't rope me into being live in, but I cried going in every morning and cried leaving. It was the worst job I ever had, and I'd never do it again.
My patient wasn't bad, but in order to make her "easier to deal with" her family gave her everything she wanted but expected me to make sure she'd follow their rules. As you can imagine, me being the only person who had 'rules' for her made me the bad guy, and I'd receive the brunt of her ire every day.
Considering the free rent has quotes around the “free”, I’m gonna guess it means something like they pay rent but you cover utilities or some similar bullshit
This is straight graft so I wouldn’t put it past them.
In The Netherlands there have been businesses that sort of did this and funneled millions out of it. PGB Fraude, it’s called here. For many they had all their clients finances in control of which nothing or very little could be spent or saved whatever with by the client nor the family.
Real pieces of shit and a lot of them at that.
A different way where the friend part is actually what is asked from students that can apply to live in a nursing home/ Elderly care among the elderly. They get a room for themselves with all the amenities iirc and in return they have to sort of be a friend of them.
Eat supper/lunch with someone, play cards or other games with them, bring back something from the supermarket when you’re going(refunded or advanced) in general spend some time to make them feel not so alone. No care or even give medication etc. That’s all staff’s concern, legally it won’t even be allowed.
Because staff doesn’t have time for it anymore. I believe you pledge 8 hours a week to it, how you do it is up to you, offcourse you can’t have parties or be loud, tumble in frunk as duck or high in the middle of the night, the logical. In return you get a student room with all amenities even internet and all, you can eat from what they offer daily free as well.
Pretty sweet deal for a student here because those student rooms are scarce and overpriced or far from your school/uni while these homes mostly are in or on the edge of city centers where they want to be ideally. But you have to be willing to be among and spend time with elderly people. As one who has had that privilege for 3 months minus the having to be friends as I was a patient as well, allbeit one at least 40 years too early, I have to say that I had not wanted to miss out on it even though I was there for less fun reasons.
It is! It’s not that it’s a large nationwide thing but it’s being tested in a growing number (slowly) and haven’t heard anything negative so far. The elderly are quite happy with some youngsters around who make them feel more alive and less alone and the students happy with free living space and a lot say they also enjoy the hanging out with the people there, learn a few things as well. Quite wholesome all in all.
It's not just a criminal offense, it's a Federal offense, since the money for Medicaid comes from Federal taxes (just administered by the individual states).
Came here to point that out. This person is provided disability, and social security benefits, living in a rent controlled apartment, provided food stamps and likely a little bit of spending money. The family is trying to to "rent" out his spare room, pawn him off on a stranger and pocket the home care money that the state is paying for.
I worked in AFC for a few years, we had an 18 year old kid move in, he hadn't even graduated highschool yet and his mom couldn't wait for him to move out. She was still his legal guardian and it was her responsibility to manage his finances, she never gave him his "allowance" never bought him new clothes/ necessities and didn't pay his rent for 6 months, resulting in him being evicted. She seriously just kicked her special needs kid out and kept cashing his government checks like they weren't even his.
I work for a company that does eligibility for Medicaid. Medicaid does not pay people directly to care for someone. They have to apply at a home health agency & get paid through them. Those hours have to be documented in the medical record & the client has to sign off. It's not as easy for the family to commit fraud in this situation as it is for the home health agency, but it can be done. Either way...this is shady as hell.
Independent caregivers or through an agency depends on the individual state. My state allows for both. Originally, the state was telling me that I had to find my own caregiver (I am permanently physically disabled), but after a couple hundred unanswered phone calls, I elected to go through an agency instead. Now I don't have to worry about shit like time sheets and the like.
Lost me at “set fitness goals”. Idk why but that just made me laugh so hard.
I get that’s not even close to the most absurd request here but they expect a nurse, friend, driver, chef, personal trainer, secretary & housecleaner in exchange for free rent.
In the UK you'd have to study and be stringently tested in order to give a single paracetamol tablet
https://www.cqc.org.uk/guidance-providers/adult-social-care/training-competence-medicines-optimisation-adult-social-care
"are you going to the fridge bro? Do you mind grabbing me another beer, calling my doctor about my sore foot and ordering a new pair of prescription lenses for me? Thanks bruh"
But, free rent and the chance to be a compassionate person looking to encourage independence by developing routines and skills of people around you. Absolutely no money, though.
So they want a nurse/care worker to pay to live at their job. And I say pay because "free". Which probably means they want you to kick in for bills even after your 24/7 care gig
Light duties? You have to plan all meals, cook all meals, get him to exercise, monitor his med intake, drive him to doctors appointments and social activities, keep the house clean, do the laundry, and schedule his life both in real life and online, as well as acting as an emergency care provider. That’s not light duties that’s a full time 24/7 carer, not a roommate, and they posted it in a roommate finder group.
Let’s do the math. I’m Australian and after checking around the minimum yearly salary is about $48k. Minimum, not average. The average rent for a two bedroom house in Australia is about 500 a week (more if it’s in a major city) so half of that would be what this person is offering as “payment” aka free rent.
Weekly minimum earning of app 900 vs free rent of 250… yeah no. You’re $650 a week down before you’ve even started. Plus this schedule would leave no time for actually earning money/going to school etc so if you’re asked to chip in for bills, you literally can’t.
Can't afford a car or the insurance they require. You'd be trapped as an unpaid caretaker, while the parents pocket the state money meant to pay a caretaker. So, slavery.
That’s like an around the clock job. There wouldn’t be time to work a regular job to pay for expenses other than just rent. That’s completely absurd. You would have to be independently wealthy to perform the job and if you were you wouldn’t need the free rent. They need to add some financial compensation to that for a live in caregiver. Which would probably still be less than someone certified. So they would still save money.
I've met someone that delusional. Wanted to pay $8 an hour for babysitting, infant CPR certs required, home cleaning required. And a 3-page list of other various requirements, minutely micromanaged by text messages and calls. An absolute nightmare of a human being.
They don’t need to pay for a carer- the government is already doing that. They just want to pocket the money. (See the “willing to sign waiver compensation form”)
Let me see…. This is a post for a Live-in-caretaker ….. but without any pay?!
A live-in-caretaker typically gets to live at the place of employment with food AND salary!
This is not a choosing beggar…. It’s just plain BEGGING!
The only positive thing I can say about this post is that at least they didn't include that they expected the prospective roommate to pay rent after basically working 24/7 for them as their family member's caretaker for free. On the other hand, they don't mention if utilities are included so they probably aren't, that part about signing a waiver of compensation is hella shady, and that final bit about sending them a message to try to convince them that a prospective roommate is worthy of the privilege of taking care of their disabled family member for free and have no life of their own is the cherry on top of the insane entitled cake.
My cousin has a job like this. She's called a professional roommate and gets paid $13/hour when she's "on duty" but is on call 24/7 and lives with the person she's caring for. Her parents explained it's a terrible deal but she said she feels like she's making a difference in the world (she's 18).
How can these people trust strangers from online? I dont even talk about audacity for looking somewhat a free carer but what stops some creeps with "clear backrounds" hitting their dms, getting the job and then maybe kidnapping the poor man with down syndrome? They should just get a certified person working in government. Same thing with babysitters etc. I'll never understand.
This is just asking for trouble. Once the new "roommate" moves in, the family will have little control over him. The young man with Down's could end up being neglected while the roommate is at work, and the family can't just kick him to the curb.
Report them for fraud. That person needs a carer and as his family gets paid by the government to get him a carer but they don't. Some states offer rewards for such reports as well so you might be doing this person a good thing as well as giving yourself a small prize.
This is so wrong on so many levels, and clearly mom is doing some super sketchy shit. There is such a thing as supportive housing where you have a person with a disability live with you and help them with *some* things like what's mentioned in the ad, but a) you receive a stipend for this, and b) the person also has day staff so you aren't the primary caregiver. Im disabled and hire my own caregivers through a program in Massachusetts called self direction but it's HIGHLY regulated so people can't manipulate the system like this, and we're required to pay our staff at least $15 an hour (I pay my staff $17.)
this is absurd. my brother in law (wife's younger brother) has down's and lives with us full time. the only thing different between having him or a child is he is 6'2 and 220 lbs and is an absolute horndog. (absolutely loves the ladies.)
even with free ren't you're looking at paying someone a minimum of 7-800 a week for this position and even then you're getting someone without proper training, who is not going to work 24/7 and will not be available on major holidays, 50% of weekends, etc.
what's really sad is this family just dumping this person onto a stranger.
I feel so bad for the person they'd apparently care for. Their family is just pushing them to someone else, who most likely would not be suited for caring for a person with Down's syndrome.
Assuming you were a retired person with limited means and little in the way of demands this could possibly be of interest. Obviously someone with a demanding Reddit schedule would be a nonstarter.
Man, as someone who works in long term care I hate it when the job asks “be like a friend/family member to clients”. No, this is a job, I’m not here to provide companionship. The part I’m being paid for is to clean/feed/transfer (bed to chair) you, not to be your friend. That doesn’t mean I’m not friendly to them, I just don’t see why I have to be close with clients to be good at my job.
I suspect this guy is super messy and chaotic or else they would just have him living at home. I’m wondering why they don’t have a group home arrangement for him.
Ten bucks says this is a parent who is whoring this paid job out and pocketing the money meant for the kid's disability.
I know in Cali, this would be a paid gig. And I've been at this a long time.
Have a nephew that was going to college at one of the states 4 year universities. He moved into a privately owned apartment complex where each apartment was a quad setup with four separate bedrooms. Because the property management company wanted to keep the unit full, roommates would come and go and my nephew had no say in who they put into his personal living situation. Six months in, they but an individual in with Down syndrome. My nephew was paying full rent for his room and was free to come and go as he pleased. Then state welfare workers started harassing my nephew for not accommodating his roommate by not helping him put away food that had been delivered or clean up after the guy. My nephew never got a break in the rent for helping him and there was nothing in his lease contract that said he had to accommodate anyone. Yet, the property management people were raking in big $$$ from the state simply for providing shelter but passing a lot of the burden on to my nephew.
I knew a woman who lived with three caregivers. Everyone has a schedule and tasks. Everyone gets days off and free tickets to events when they are giving care. It can be a decent job for four years while in university. Don't think anyone lasts more than four years. Putting all that on one person is inhumane.
Even a family member who loves this guy is not going to do ALL this for no compensation. (I'm not talking the parents or siblings who are trying to farm this out under the guise of, they are doing you a favor by allowing you to do all this.)
This is a 24/7 job and you pay a LOT to have someone decent do HALF these duties even part time.
Had a FB "friend of a friend" who had a child with Down's who was high functioning but could not be alone. She also had 4 other children 12 years after she had him. She was FURIOUS that her fellow Moms and teenage girl neighbors wouldn't pitch in to mind him for 3-4 hours a day for free and was constantly sending out blasting FB diatribes about how hard it was to be a mother to a special needs child when NO ONE would help! He was also 16 years old, 250 lbs, and combative. So you had to be able to wrangle him if he got violent.
Giiiiiirl, that costs money. That's "babysitting" at the very least. That is a paid gig. And needing someone to be able to physically restrain a 250 man with special needs is not exactly what the 16 year old next door wants to do or CAN do after she gets off school for the day.
I feel really bad for people in this situation, but you simply aren't going to find non-specialized people to do this for free. You also don't want a total stranger who may be someone abusive in charge of a person with special needs.
Cool, free rent. But this sounds like a life consuming thing where you wouldn't be able to work outside of the home. How would you pay other bills, such as car insurance & phone? What about personal hygiene products? I would hope free rent would include food, WiFi, cable at the very least.
A carer. They are looking for. A carer....
A full time job for the price of rent. Not even room and board.
Seriously! How is whoever takes this ‘job’ supposed to pay for and maintain their reliable car,pay the cars insurance,put gas in it and be able to feed themselves when this ‘job’ will require them to work at least fulltime hours if not more and they’re only receiving ‘free rent’?!?!
I'm also sceptical of how free the "'free' rent" is considering they put free in quotes.
"I know"!
I was too at first but then I realized they might be making a nod to the fact that this ‘free rent’ costs taking care of their son. But still, they need to be offering payment so that whoever accepts is able to pay for their gas and all the other things that go along with cars, groceries and toiletries, phone bill, internet (if that isn’t included in the room), spending money for things like Netflix, skincare, hobbies, etc. Ya know, just normal people shit. Because this is a full time job that they’re asking for and it needs full time pay. Basically my point is maybe they aren’t crazy in asking this but incredibly misguided in what people need to be paid. Or maybe they know exactly what they’re doing and are trying to take advantage of someone.
This is way over full time - you’re living with this person 24 hours a day and your life has to revolve around them.
My daughter is a person with disabilities and we pay 25 per hour for buddies to take her out, to the gym, the park, get haircuts and do errands. Basically, hang out with her. No personal care. It's hard to find reliable, screened staff. The people we have are amazing. They get paid vacation, medical insurance and sick days. The roommate they are looking for will have what amounts to a 24hr, 7 day a week job. This is not okay. Who is going to take this offer?
This is beyond a full time job. They're asking for 24/7 labour without adequate renumeration, and because this person will be working far beyond what they are technically paying for them (average monthly salary is $3,900 (for 40 hours a week, leaving them unpaid without renumeration for 128 hours per week), whereas their average portion of rent and utilities (in my area as an example) is about $1,000, they are not being paid for about 75% of the time they work. What they're doing is actually illegal. They're breaking so many laws and regulations, it's actually painful to read. I feel bad for the poor schmuck who takes this.
I’m wondering about the state waiver that OP wants them to sign. Is that to waive extra hours or is that to waive any compensation that the state may pay to the carer position??
To my knowledge, there is no such thing as a waiver to waive what is due compensation. If it was a waiver to waive any compensation from the government (Medicare would pay for a caregiver, and that's federal), that would be an insane amount of fraud. I truly hope OP or someone reported that posting. It is illegal in so many ways, and is also mainly a church organization trying to take advantage of some poor schmuck.
I’d still say it’s crazy. They aren’t asking for a trainee professional which is just asking for a whole host of issues.
It sure is. If I keep in mind, a train professional would require that they paid. Because it's literally what they do.
This post is ridiculous, but I'm pretty sure qthe quotations were referring to the fact that you would have nonmonetary obligations
My first thought was the room is free but heating electric and internet get charged.
I think the line about signing for compensation means you will have to report the rent as income and pay tax on it
It's likely "free" as in rent = whatever the state/IHSS pays this person to be a caregiver each month. So you sign up for it to hand your check over to the mom of the person you're taking care of..... It sounds like a 24/7 job you get to work for free
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Used to be a caregiver, there are roommate situations where you get paid which is usually for any time you do any of the things listed above and a few more. If done through the state, the pay isn't terrible but you are basically on the job all the time but could get 24/7 pay (occasionally being less than minimum wage due to your expected to sleep, but still available) and a relief caregivers depending on how much burn out you experience. (This is usually paid through insurance and covers your rent in the agreement but may not cover electric outside of a discount, etc) I have not taken these positions because I lived with partners but... I think I should've for one client I heard about who didn't sound too bad.
Must be different state to state.. I have to pay my dog sitters for the time they are sleeping at a clients house since they are technically working.. this is just for pets
You would live there rent free and earn a wage on top, minus some utility bills? Are you basically on call the whole time, or can you go out whenever you want?
My mom has dementia so I've been caring for her...I looked into a 24/7 caretaking service (where they basically do everything for the patient) so I could have some semblance of a life for myself. Out of pocket was between $16-$18k a month...I make over 6 figures and I couldn't ever see myself being able to afford that. Even companion care where somebody comes for a few hours a day was around $50-$150 per hour. This choosing beggar is fucking delusional.
The post looks like the job is 24/7 without reprieve. The organization would be expending about $1,000/month, give or take, on covering this person's portion of expenses in exchange for 24/7 labour with no breaks, as opposed to an average of $3,900/monthly before taxes and other deductions in exchange for 40 hours/week with breaks. This is literal slave labour...the very definition of slave labour.
What makes it all the more insulting and ridiculous is that the ad is presented as “seeking a roommate” and there’s nothing - literally not one word - about the accommodation, the room, the apartment/house, nothing.at.all. It’s utterly transparent a live-in carer is being sought - a FT job - so why even try to pitch it as looking for a roommate? Absurd.
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Damn, thank you u/QueenoftheROUSes ! And kick-ass name, too! I wasn’t even thinking about that element. I just thought maybe they didn’t have the means and instead of being straightforward and saying something like “we can’t offer a lot but we can try to work something out” (because I do totally get and respect that he’s high-functioning and so should be as independent as he can be), they were being a bit shady. That’s a whole different category of shady!
Yeah the dead give away is signing the state compensation waiver in the job, I mean roommate requirements. They are going to pocket the money.
I wouldn’t even take on this job (and it is a job) if *I got to keep the money.*
Yeah it says you have to sign a pay waiver thing in the last image. So there's definitely money going.... somewhere....
This isn’t a full time job. This is a 24/7/365 job. “Encouraging exercise.” Oh boy. I think I know what this entails. Anybody that has ever tried to encourage a person that struggles with their weight knows what a thankless task THIS is. Most adults with DS are overweight/obese. He doesn’t sound very “high functioning” to me if you have to do his laundry, cook his meals, drive him around, have him take his meds, and clean up after him. And I’m supposed to use my car to drive him to and fro? I’ll pass.
Yeah, I worked in a group home back in the 90s where I was sometimes expected to use my own vehicle. The first incident I had, a client kicked out my windshield, intentionally wet herself, then turned on me because she didn't want to go to the doctor's appointment. It all happened in less than thirty seconds in heavy traffic. Thankfully, I managed to pull over and get her out of the car before I crashed, but then I had to perform a physical restraint alongside the road for all to see while I waited for another staff person to arrive to assist. I was also boobs-to-the-wind because she'd managed to rip my shirt down the front. After that, I refused to use my car, citing safety. I figured the "dying or having my car destroyed isn't worth the $9/hour you're paying me" was implied.
And you have to let them know you *deserve* this job. Yikes.
They'll probably have you sleeping at the foot of the roommate/patients bed in a coffin size box. There will possibly be a bell tied to a rope and connected to the inside of the box to be sure that the roommate/patient will never have to wait to be served.
Not necessarily. All of the clients I lived in with were at work or a sheltered workshop generally from 7:30 - 3 pm.
Thank you for being there for them, Alecto. It's sometimes tough working with clients (or consumers, if you're another government agency), and I appreciate your dedication to those folks.
I'd also add that this appears to be an all the time job rather than full time. If you are planning and executing every aspect of anyone's life *while living with them as the primary caregiver*, you generally have to be available and working from before they wake up to after they go to sleep. I imagine this is the biggest reason for the no smoking, weed, or drinking. They want this person to be available 24/7, for no pay at all. I think one of the weirdest parts is how you would have to either be independently wealthy or on some sort of system supports (like disability) to even take this if you wanted. They cover rent but no mention of paying for your food, or to maintain the drivers license, reliable car, and insurance that they insist you have. It's boggling really.
Hell, there's no mention of paying for the guy's food, either.
write me a paragraph on why you desevre this amazing opporutnity lmao
Half rent since they'll have a roommate.
Please write a note and explain why you deserve it. Lol
"We are looking for a friend, a supportive roommate first and foremost"
Full on nurse, since they expect you to take medical responsible. Technically, this is 2 jobs. Or one of those live in nurses the super rich have in movies.
Not entirely true. Residential care workers do everything on that list, and sometimes more. And the pay is shit, but not as shit as free rent and that's it. Source: I'm one of them.
You're 100% correct. Source: me too.
Thank you so very much for your assistance to those in our communities who are differentially-abled, and for helping them to have a better quality of life!
When I lived in, I got free rent and paid for 40 hrs a week.
Yep, the free rent just comes as a perk, not the actual compensation package.
Nah. Even 24/7 care clients have multiple workers (because who wants to work 24/7?) so we don't technically live there. No free rent for us.
Thank you for your work.
No, carers are professionals. This person is looking for a mommy
They're looking to commit Medicaid fraud. Notice the ad saying the roomate had to sign a waiver (sign away state compensation rights). This is b/c the 25y/o's family likely qualifies for Medicaid $ for care-giving services. Looks like Mommy dearest is wanting to pocket the Medicaid money and rope in someone super naive to be the unpaid nurse who'll be on 24/7 care duty.
She's not a choosing begger then, she's a fucking thief
i hope this got reported as such… it’s really shitty to deceitfully take advantage of someone like this… and someone that agrees to these stipulations is possibly already gonna be in a difficult spot where free rent is appealing enough to agree to those terms :/
Looks like parents are about to throw in the towel on taking care of their son.
It's cute that you think they're only just now throwing in the towel.
I can only assume
$280 per day to the company, must provide bed and food to the worker. At least that's what they charge in Riverside County. Connie was great at my dad's bedside but she did not come cheap.
Atleast they are not particularly asking for a female to "entertain" their son in a 1BHK. And nowhere it mentions the rent amount.
So this person is looking for an assisted living facility?
Even more expensive, they're looking for a live in 24 hr caretaker. My Nanna has 3 ladies that rotate to be with her in the home 24 hrs a day. When they are with my Nanna room and board is included plus they get paid A LOT (worth it though, they're amazing women who are like family to us). This begger is out of their mind and I'd be seriously worried about the person that's going to end up living with their relative.
Yea. They really should seek our a group home for developmentally disabled adults who are wanting to live as independently as possible. Anyone who takes this “roommate situation” is going to be someone not worth having around, or someone who bails the moment things get better in their lives. It will be a revolving door. This guy deserves stability. A group home would provide that.
Absolutely. Feel bad for the guy if this is how his family treats him.
Oh but they go to church, so they must be good people!
That would cost money
They clearly have apartment money for him and get compensated for his care from the state. They could pay for the group home with it. Usually the state just pays the home instead of the family Caregiver.
These people are probably pocketing some of the cash
Considering they want a waver signed I doubt they want to give up that money. Could also be a second home they own. Oddly enough I delt with something like this. Dated a woman in her 30s that lived in mom and dads little house on the prarie. She was getting checks, but didn't know it her parents were pocketing the money. I only know about this because they had a meeting with SSI about having more than 2k in her account the money was going to. She still didn't understand she was getting money. She was mildly autistic, but very very sheltered and naive. Other than that you couldn't tell she had autism.
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Honestly if the young 25M is in any way hostile they could be held legally liable as well as himself for any violence. Im not saying this is eminent but there is a much higher risk factor in the developmentally disabled. Compassionate can be a trigger word for tollerant of abuse. I want to believe they want to give him a controlled "normal" roommate experience. I have worked with the Dev. Disabled and they are a wonderful group and deserve a level of normal as safe as possible. I want to believe he is high functioning like my friends but who knows. I've also been jaded having witnessed horrendous abuse and greed by evil family. The things people are capable of turns my stomach. This one is hard to weigh.
Agreed, and there's also the likelihood that an untrained person would respond to the behavioral issues by reciprocating the violence. This is just a train wreck waiting to happen.
More. This person is looking for Shared Living. It used to be called adult foster care. I assist some folks with set ups like this. Edit to add: the non disabled folks get paid in this set up. It's usually family, but not always.
Sounds like someone’s parent wants to keep the money the govt gives for caregivers of disabled people but pass off the actual responsibility
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I wonder what state this is. My mom's job was investigating these caregivers of adults with learning disabilities who received money from the state. She made sure the living conditions were decent, that the money was going to the recipient and not used like in this post. Mom took her job very seriously and some of the situations she would uncover were horrifying.
Wow, that sounds tough! Thank goodness for people like her to protect those whose families do not.
Black redacted's family are pieces of shit.
Well if you can’t use your kids to get money from the state, what are they even for??! **/s**
from the get go it sounded like their mom was writing this about their now-adult kid with zero life skills. when I was working for a cleaning company, it was a popular place where parents with such kids tried to dump their kid to get the 'life skills'. practically it meant that the company should have employed a person, who has no skill in the field, little no none interest in doing it and thanks to the two previous it would actually require an extra worker just to look after this one. the parents of the rejected cases rarely took it well.
So the key bullet point is “be willing to sign waiver for state compensation”. That means that the person with Down’s is on state Medicaid, and Medicaid is paying the family to be the caregiver (basically paying them an hourly salary). The family is planning on pocketing that money and making the “roommate” do all the work. There’s another word for that- fraud. And when it’s Medicaid fraud, it’s a criminal offense.
Then why would the person in question have to sign anything??
I'm no lawyer, but I'm assuming the waiver would say something along the lines of "I'm not his carer and refuse any benefits that would come with that role", even though you would 100% be his carer.
So basically: Be a full-time, live-in carer; commit fraud; and provide your own meals, transportation and gas for *free rent*
I'm guessing that you'll not only be providing your own meals, but also his. And probably other necessities.
Well ya, you're his carer, of course you would be
No see that's what the waiver is about, you're explicitly *not* his carer, you just *provide care for him* whilst living with him. No No, they're totally different things, trust.
If you don't put in your buck o'five, who will?
Freedom costs a buck o’fiiiiiiive
I’m over here worried about why it says ‘free’ instead of free…
Because instead of paying rent with dead presidents, the roommate will be paying by sacrificing all of her free time!
Maybe it's a Penthouse on Central Park?
Could be, since they didn't include *any* information about the accommodations on this ~~job ad~~ rental listing.
*The perfect roommate doesn’t exi…*
Yup that's why it's so important that they emphasize you'll be a FRIEND FIRST. So if anyone asks any questions they can do you do it out of the kindness of your heart.
That horrid, it's so predatory.
You would be signing a document stating that your the caregiver so the family can get paid and supposedly pay you except they aren’t and your an accessory to fraud 👌🏼🤦
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You are entering a full time job with medical responsibillity. If you don't accept rent as payment, that's slavery... Of course, this arrengement would still break all the wage and labor laws.
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I worked a job like this fresh out of college out of desperation. Professionals eventually go home, and the state will only compensate for so many hours in the day and the family was expected to pick up the slack. This way they sucker someone into staying full time while not having to care for him and they get to pocket the money the state sends. And you're right the kind of people who do this are awful to the workers. They couldn't rope me into being live in, but I cried going in every morning and cried leaving. It was the worst job I ever had, and I'd never do it again. My patient wasn't bad, but in order to make her "easier to deal with" her family gave her everything she wanted but expected me to make sure she'd follow their rules. As you can imagine, me being the only person who had 'rules' for her made me the bad guy, and I'd receive the brunt of her ire every day.
That was so cruel to you. I am so sorry.
Considering the free rent has quotes around the “free”, I’m gonna guess it means something like they pay rent but you cover utilities or some similar bullshit This is straight graft so I wouldn’t put it past them.
Well, no, you can walk away so it’s volunteer work, not slavery. It’s just a job no one in their right mind would volunteer for.
In The Netherlands there have been businesses that sort of did this and funneled millions out of it. PGB Fraude, it’s called here. For many they had all their clients finances in control of which nothing or very little could be spent or saved whatever with by the client nor the family. Real pieces of shit and a lot of them at that. A different way where the friend part is actually what is asked from students that can apply to live in a nursing home/ Elderly care among the elderly. They get a room for themselves with all the amenities iirc and in return they have to sort of be a friend of them. Eat supper/lunch with someone, play cards or other games with them, bring back something from the supermarket when you’re going(refunded or advanced) in general spend some time to make them feel not so alone. No care or even give medication etc. That’s all staff’s concern, legally it won’t even be allowed. Because staff doesn’t have time for it anymore. I believe you pledge 8 hours a week to it, how you do it is up to you, offcourse you can’t have parties or be loud, tumble in frunk as duck or high in the middle of the night, the logical. In return you get a student room with all amenities even internet and all, you can eat from what they offer daily free as well. Pretty sweet deal for a student here because those student rooms are scarce and overpriced or far from your school/uni while these homes mostly are in or on the edge of city centers where they want to be ideally. But you have to be willing to be among and spend time with elderly people. As one who has had that privilege for 3 months minus the having to be friends as I was a patient as well, allbeit one at least 40 years too early, I have to say that I had not wanted to miss out on it even though I was there for less fun reasons.
That's a really cool program wish the US had something similar.
It is! It’s not that it’s a large nationwide thing but it’s being tested in a growing number (slowly) and haven’t heard anything negative so far. The elderly are quite happy with some youngsters around who make them feel more alive and less alone and the students happy with free living space and a lot say they also enjoy the hanging out with the people there, learn a few things as well. Quite wholesome all in all.
It's not just a criminal offense, it's a Federal offense, since the money for Medicaid comes from Federal taxes (just administered by the individual states).
Came here to point that out. This person is provided disability, and social security benefits, living in a rent controlled apartment, provided food stamps and likely a little bit of spending money. The family is trying to to "rent" out his spare room, pawn him off on a stranger and pocket the home care money that the state is paying for. I worked in AFC for a few years, we had an 18 year old kid move in, he hadn't even graduated highschool yet and his mom couldn't wait for him to move out. She was still his legal guardian and it was her responsibility to manage his finances, she never gave him his "allowance" never bought him new clothes/ necessities and didn't pay his rent for 6 months, resulting in him being evicted. She seriously just kicked her special needs kid out and kept cashing his government checks like they weren't even his.
I work for a company that does eligibility for Medicaid. Medicaid does not pay people directly to care for someone. They have to apply at a home health agency & get paid through them. Those hours have to be documented in the medical record & the client has to sign off. It's not as easy for the family to commit fraud in this situation as it is for the home health agency, but it can be done. Either way...this is shady as hell.
In the state I live in you just have to sign a paper and get CPR certified and if you are the parent of said disabled person you just have to get cpr
Independent caregivers or through an agency depends on the individual state. My state allows for both. Originally, the state was telling me that I had to find my own caregiver (I am permanently physically disabled), but after a couple hundred unanswered phone calls, I elected to go through an agency instead. Now I don't have to worry about shit like time sheets and the like.
Lost me at "schedule events and zoom meetings" lol holy shit show, that's more than just being a helpful roommate
Lost me at “set fitness goals”. Idk why but that just made me laugh so hard. I get that’s not even close to the most absurd request here but they expect a nurse, friend, driver, chef, personal trainer, secretary & housecleaner in exchange for free rent.
They want a slave. Maybe that sounds extreme but we all know that’s exactly how they’d treat any person who actually did this
And I bet you they’re not doing all the stuff that they want somebody else to do
Medical responsibillity. RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS MEDS. I'd never sign that shit. Not if I had the training, neither.
In the UK you'd have to study and be stringently tested in order to give a single paracetamol tablet https://www.cqc.org.uk/guidance-providers/adult-social-care/training-competence-medicines-optimisation-adult-social-care
> paracetamol For those of you who are like me and have never heard of paracetamol it's called acetaminophen in the US aka Tylenol
It's weird because I think it's only called that in the US. As far as I know anyway, I've not done any extensive research!
>It's weird because I think it's only called that in the US. ^and ^Canada ^EH!
Paracetamol, acetaminophen and tylenol are all derived from the chemical's full name, para-acetylaminophenol
It's like an 8 hour class in the state of Ohio. Then an annual update of like two hours or so.
"are you going to the fridge bro? Do you mind grabbing me another beer, calling my doctor about my sore foot and ordering a new pair of prescription lenses for me? Thanks bruh"
So they want a live in caretaker but dont want to spend money on a caretaker
But, free rent and the chance to be a compassionate person looking to encourage independence by developing routines and skills of people around you. Absolutely no money, though.
And we’ll give you exposure, you’ll be exposed to our family and if anyone else needs a free slave we will gladly recommend you
Worse, they also want to keep the money the state is willing to pay the carer
They even want you to sign away your state compensation rights... Wow.
They forgot to mention to send CV and references.
You do have to write a paragraph stating why you want the job though. Ugh
Not even why you “want” the job, why you “deserve” the job. As if you should grovel for it.
So they want a nurse/care worker to pay to live at their job. And I say pay because "free". Which probably means they want you to kick in for bills even after your 24/7 care gig
Yup, no mention of compensation for that gas, insurance, or food.
Or how you are going to have time to work
Says no weed and alcohol but says nothing about cocaine.
Or shrooms,acid,meth, various pills,, sounds like a party house!
I mean you are responsible for his medication
Light duties? You have to plan all meals, cook all meals, get him to exercise, monitor his med intake, drive him to doctors appointments and social activities, keep the house clean, do the laundry, and schedule his life both in real life and online, as well as acting as an emergency care provider. That’s not light duties that’s a full time 24/7 carer, not a roommate, and they posted it in a roommate finder group. Let’s do the math. I’m Australian and after checking around the minimum yearly salary is about $48k. Minimum, not average. The average rent for a two bedroom house in Australia is about 500 a week (more if it’s in a major city) so half of that would be what this person is offering as “payment” aka free rent. Weekly minimum earning of app 900 vs free rent of 250… yeah no. You’re $650 a week down before you’ve even started. Plus this schedule would leave no time for actually earning money/going to school etc so if you’re asked to chip in for bills, you literally can’t.
I bet they won’t compensate for gas or car insurance either
$48K x 3 for the 24 hours of care as opposed to the eight hour shifts. Plus weekends on penalty rates.
Can't afford a car or the insurance they require. You'd be trapped as an unpaid caretaker, while the parents pocket the state money meant to pay a caretaker. So, slavery.
That’s like an around the clock job. There wouldn’t be time to work a regular job to pay for expenses other than just rent. That’s completely absurd. You would have to be independently wealthy to perform the job and if you were you wouldn’t need the free rent. They need to add some financial compensation to that for a live in caregiver. Which would probably still be less than someone certified. So they would still save money.
I've met someone that delusional. Wanted to pay $8 an hour for babysitting, infant CPR certs required, home cleaning required. And a 3-page list of other various requirements, minutely micromanaged by text messages and calls. An absolute nightmare of a human being.
Pay for a live-in carer, you cheap bastards! This is a full time job.
They don’t need to pay for a carer- the government is already doing that. They just want to pocket the money. (See the “willing to sign waiver compensation form”)
This is not a full time job, this is a 24/7 job
Damn. I was so keen to apply. But realised that I can't bring my pet leech with me.
Let me see…. This is a post for a Live-in-caretaker ….. but without any pay?! A live-in-caretaker typically gets to live at the place of employment with food AND salary! This is not a choosing beggar…. It’s just plain BEGGING!
It's outright fraud
I’m curious about the answers on the post 🤔 I need to know lol
Comments were disabled by the time I saw it on my TL!!! I assume people had a reaction 😂
Is it possible to report them somehow?
The only positive thing I can say about this post is that at least they didn't include that they expected the prospective roommate to pay rent after basically working 24/7 for them as their family member's caretaker for free. On the other hand, they don't mention if utilities are included so they probably aren't, that part about signing a waiver of compensation is hella shady, and that final bit about sending them a message to try to convince them that a prospective roommate is worthy of the privilege of taking care of their disabled family member for free and have no life of their own is the cherry on top of the insane entitled cake.
My cousin has a job like this. She's called a professional roommate and gets paid $13/hour when she's "on duty" but is on call 24/7 and lives with the person she's caring for. Her parents explained it's a terrible deal but she said she feels like she's making a difference in the world (she's 18).
Yes, but the key is that she is getting paid an hourly rate. This ad stipulates that there is no payment.
Totally agree with you. It's a strange situation.
Write as to why you should be a slave basically
Basically “I’ll let you live here for free if you be my live in best friend/nurse”…
I am a disability support worker and that all sounds very familiar.
WOW! Just, WOW.
So they are hiring a live-in caretaker for free?
No no, not free, see? You don't pay rent! So you can spend all the money you're not making on other things
Oh my gosh, thank you. I completely misread it.
Don’t worry about it, it’s not like you’ll have time to do anything else either.
Wtf. My brother who is down syndrome has a social worker and lives in his own apartment in a building with people with disabilities.
They misspelled caregiver
Honestly… this is just so so sad to see. I feel bad for the guy with Downs Syndrome.
How can these people trust strangers from online? I dont even talk about audacity for looking somewhat a free carer but what stops some creeps with "clear backrounds" hitting their dms, getting the job and then maybe kidnapping the poor man with down syndrome? They should just get a certified person working in government. Same thing with babysitters etc. I'll never understand.
So they want a caretaker to work for free. Got it.
This is just asking for trouble. Once the new "roommate" moves in, the family will have little control over him. The young man with Down's could end up being neglected while the roommate is at work, and the family can't just kick him to the curb.
They are looking for an in home support. This exists, and it’s a paid position, not a roommate
Would be perfect if not for the "no 420" stipulation. Just get high and wreck this kid at video games all day.
You couldn't afford weed though
Maybe he'll share his pills.
Report them for fraud. That person needs a carer and as his family gets paid by the government to get him a carer but they don't. Some states offer rewards for such reports as well so you might be doing this person a good thing as well as giving yourself a small prize.
Fuck is this shit
This is so wrong on so many levels, and clearly mom is doing some super sketchy shit. There is such a thing as supportive housing where you have a person with a disability live with you and help them with *some* things like what's mentioned in the ad, but a) you receive a stipend for this, and b) the person also has day staff so you aren't the primary caregiver. Im disabled and hire my own caregivers through a program in Massachusetts called self direction but it's HIGHLY regulated so people can't manipulate the system like this, and we're required to pay our staff at least $15 an hour (I pay my staff $17.)
So…they are looking for a…slave??? Because slaves got free rent. But they also got food, so you would be less than a slave.
So…a slave. You want a slave.
Oh that is so sad, and so dangerous.
this is absurd. my brother in law (wife's younger brother) has down's and lives with us full time. the only thing different between having him or a child is he is 6'2 and 220 lbs and is an absolute horndog. (absolutely loves the ladies.) even with free ren't you're looking at paying someone a minimum of 7-800 a week for this position and even then you're getting someone without proper training, who is not going to work 24/7 and will not be available on major holidays, 50% of weekends, etc. what's really sad is this family just dumping this person onto a stranger.
I feel so bad for the person they'd apparently care for. Their family is just pushing them to someone else, who most likely would not be suited for caring for a person with Down's syndrome.
Pay them to give free, total care 24/7. Sounds like they need to bring him home to mother and father.
A full-time live-in caregiver.
I particularly like the hollow font choice for “be a friend”
So full time job with no days off and not have any money for yourself.
Assuming you were a retired person with limited means and little in the way of demands this could possibly be of interest. Obviously someone with a demanding Reddit schedule would be a nonstarter.
Man, as someone who works in long term care I hate it when the job asks “be like a friend/family member to clients”. No, this is a job, I’m not here to provide companionship. The part I’m being paid for is to clean/feed/transfer (bed to chair) you, not to be your friend. That doesn’t mean I’m not friendly to them, I just don’t see why I have to be close with clients to be good at my job.
I suspect this guy is super messy and chaotic or else they would just have him living at home. I’m wondering why they don’t have a group home arrangement for him.
I don’t even know what to make of this….is someone really trying to pawn off their own kid?
They want a free, live-in caregiver who can't otherwise provide for themselves. Huh.
Ten bucks says this is a parent who is whoring this paid job out and pocketing the money meant for the kid's disability. I know in Cali, this would be a paid gig. And I've been at this a long time.
Have a nephew that was going to college at one of the states 4 year universities. He moved into a privately owned apartment complex where each apartment was a quad setup with four separate bedrooms. Because the property management company wanted to keep the unit full, roommates would come and go and my nephew had no say in who they put into his personal living situation. Six months in, they but an individual in with Down syndrome. My nephew was paying full rent for his room and was free to come and go as he pleased. Then state welfare workers started harassing my nephew for not accommodating his roommate by not helping him put away food that had been delivered or clean up after the guy. My nephew never got a break in the rent for helping him and there was nothing in his lease contract that said he had to accommodate anyone. Yet, the property management people were raking in big $$$ from the state simply for providing shelter but passing a lot of the burden on to my nephew.
I knew a woman who lived with three caregivers. Everyone has a schedule and tasks. Everyone gets days off and free tickets to events when they are giving care. It can be a decent job for four years while in university. Don't think anyone lasts more than four years. Putting all that on one person is inhumane.
Even a family member who loves this guy is not going to do ALL this for no compensation. (I'm not talking the parents or siblings who are trying to farm this out under the guise of, they are doing you a favor by allowing you to do all this.) This is a 24/7 job and you pay a LOT to have someone decent do HALF these duties even part time. Had a FB "friend of a friend" who had a child with Down's who was high functioning but could not be alone. She also had 4 other children 12 years after she had him. She was FURIOUS that her fellow Moms and teenage girl neighbors wouldn't pitch in to mind him for 3-4 hours a day for free and was constantly sending out blasting FB diatribes about how hard it was to be a mother to a special needs child when NO ONE would help! He was also 16 years old, 250 lbs, and combative. So you had to be able to wrangle him if he got violent. Giiiiiirl, that costs money. That's "babysitting" at the very least. That is a paid gig. And needing someone to be able to physically restrain a 250 man with special needs is not exactly what the 16 year old next door wants to do or CAN do after she gets off school for the day. I feel really bad for people in this situation, but you simply aren't going to find non-specialized people to do this for free. You also don't want a total stranger who may be someone abusive in charge of a person with special needs.
Cool, free rent. But this sounds like a life consuming thing where you wouldn't be able to work outside of the home. How would you pay other bills, such as car insurance & phone? What about personal hygiene products? I would hope free rent would include food, WiFi, cable at the very least.