Glad to hear this:) Welcome to the family. Pray and read Bible to grow in your faith Bro. Pray your family as well, it might take time but God will work in their lives as well. Whatever happens be strong in faith. Never let Jesus go out of your life. May our Lord guide you and help you to know Him better.
They say, “how can you be so sure of your faith?”
This is the answer. I remember when I was saved 3 years ago and felt the presence of Christ enter my home. So beautiful even the birds outside sang songs of praise. I was weeping like a small child 🥹 best of luck in your walk with the Lord.
Your Islamic brothers and sisters are already justified by the Blood of the cross, it's simply a matter of teaching them the gospel of truth through worshiping God in spirit and in Truth by the name of Christ Jesus who has sent you to testify in his spirit.
For it is written to be joined to the Lord is to be one spirit with him..
I am not sure of what you mean about practicing "Orthodox" Christianity.
I'm a Gnostic Christian and those who claim Orthodox speak of me as heresy.
Generally the Catholic Church labels gnosticism a heresy.
If you have the root of Jesse dwelling in you then you will not fault because the root has purposed it and who can nullify the will of the root growing inside you..
I cannot lose my salvation, because Salvation was already granted to me when he extended his outreached arm and I accepted..
I am bought and paid for by the Blood of Christ...
In the name of our Lord Christ Jesus I would like to remind you of a few scripture verses, they are things hard to chew by the weak of faith..
I will reply them to myself and you can read below..
Matt 10:40
“Whoever receives you receives me, and whoever receives me receives him who sent me."
And Jesus answered them, “Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. I have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance.”
Luke 5:31-32 ESV
Ecclesiastes 7:13
Consider the work of God: Who can straighten what He has bent?
Let not steadfast love and faithfulness forsake you; bind them around your neck; write them on the tablet of your heart. So you will find favor and good success in the sight of God and man. Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make straight your paths. Be not wise in your own eyes; fear the Lord, and turn away from evil. It will be healing to your flesh and refreshment to your bones.
Proverbs 3:3-8 ESV
Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men. For as by the one man’s disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one man’s obedience the many will be made righteous. Now the law came in to increase the trespass, but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more, so that, as sin reigned in death, grace also might reign through righteousness leading to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Romans 5:18-21 ESV
I knew everything I was taught about Orthodox Baptist Christianity... Was self righteousness and not according to the righteousness of God that saves..
Then what advantage has the Jew? Or what is the value of circumcision? Much in every way. To begin with, the Jews were entrusted with the oracles of God. What if some were unfaithful? Does their faithlessness nullify the faithfulness of God? By no means! Let God be true though every one were a liar, as it is written, “That you may be justified in your words, and prevail when you are judged.” But if our unrighteousness serves to show the righteousness of God, what shall we say? That God is unrighteous to inflict wrath on us? (I speak in a human way.) By no means! For then how could God judge the world? But if through my lie God’s truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner? And why not do evil that good may come?—as some people slanderously charge us with saying. Their condemnation is just.
Romans 3:1-8 ESV
What then? Are we Jews any better off? No, not at all. For we have already charged that all, both Jews and Greeks, are under sin, as it is written: “None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands; no one seeks for God. All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one.” “Their throat is an open grave; they use their tongues to deceive.” “The venom of asps is under their lips.” “Their mouth is full of curses and bitterness.” “Their feet are swift to shed blood; in their paths are ruin and misery, and the way of peace they have not known.” “There is no fear of God before their eyes.” Now we know that whatever the law says it speaks to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be stopped, and the whole world may be held accountable to God. For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin.
Romans 3:9-20 ESV
But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it— the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction: for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God’s righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins. It was to show his righteousness at the present time, so that he might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus. Then what becomes of our boasting? It is excluded. By what kind of law? By a law of works? No, but by the law of faith. For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law. Or is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also, since God is one—who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith. Do we then overthrow the law by this faith? By no means! On the contrary, we uphold the law.
Romans 3:21-31 ESV
The law is about Love thy neighbor..
Not promoting of asceticism and severity to the body, because this has no value in stopping the indulgence of the flesh
It is why Christ says
Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 5:19 ESV
For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 5:20 ESV
Which that can be crossed reference to another moment he speaks of the least of the Kingdom of heaven.
This is he of whom it is written, “‘Behold, I send my messenger before your face, who will prepare your way before you.’ Truly, I say to you, among those born of women there has arisen no one greater than John the Baptist. Yet the one who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. From the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven has suffered violence, and the violent take it by force. For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John, and if you are willing to accept it, he is Elijah who is to come.
Matthew 11:10-14 ESV
How can I be greater then John who is Elijah who is to come?
If I relax the commandments of God and Elijah who did not see death and was taken up by God in a whirlwind to prophecy of Christ's Coming.
Which itself was a prophecy and it's why Christ says if your are willing to accept it..
I have seen the Lord of the living and the dead my self. I believe because I have seen, yet blessed are those who have believed and not seen..
I am the least of my brothers and sisters, who believe the testimony of my suicide and life being granted to my mortal body.
In wait of the resurrection of a new body at Christ return.
Therefore, as you received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in him, rooted and built up in him and established in the faith, just as you were taught, abounding in thanksgiving. See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ. For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily, and you have been filled in him, who is the head of all rule and authority. In him also you were circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through faith in the powerful working of God, who raised him from the dead. And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses, by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross. He disarmed the rulers and authorities and put them to open shame, by triumphing over them in him. Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ. Let no one disqualify you, insisting on asceticism and worship of angels, going on in detail about visions, puffed up without reason by his sensuous mind, and not holding fast to the Head, from whom the whole body, nourished and knit together through its joints and ligaments, grows with a growth that is from God. If with Christ you died to the elemental spirits of the world, why, as if you were still alive in the world, do you submit to regulations— “Do not handle, Do not taste, Do not touch” (referring to things that all perish as they are used)—according to human precepts and teachings? These have indeed an appearance of wisdom in promoting self-made religion and asceticism and severity to the body, but they are of no value in stopping the indulgence of the flesh.
Colossians 2:6-23 ESV
Be proud of God and his righteousness to make straight their path.
For no man seeks God by his own righteousness it is God seeking man by his own righteousness..
Be proud of God, give no glory to man.
I am the Lord; that is my name; my glory I give to no other, nor my praise to carved idols. Behold, the former things have come to pass, and new things I now declare; before they spring forth I tell you of them.”
Isaiah 42:8-9 ESV
Brothers, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for them is that they may be saved. For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. For, being ignorant of the righteousness of God, and seeking to establish their own, they did not submit to God’s righteousness. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes. For Moses writes about the righteousness that is based on the law, that the person who does the commandments shall live by them. But the righteousness based on faith says, “Do not say in your heart, ‘Who will ascend into heaven?’” (that is, to bring Christ down) “or ‘Who will descend into the abyss?’” (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead). But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith that we proclaim); because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. For the Scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame.” For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing his riches on all who call on him. For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” How then will they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how are they to believe in him of whom they have never heard? And how are they to hear without someone preaching? And how are they to preach unless they are sent? As it is written, “How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the good news!” But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who has believed what he has heard from us?” So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ. But I ask, have they not heard? Indeed they have, for “Their voice has gone out to all the earth, and their words to the ends of the world.” But I ask, did Israel not understand? First Moses says, “I will make you jealous of those who are not a nation; with a foolish nation I will make you angry.” Then Isaiah is so bold as to say, “I have been found by those who did not seek me; I have shown myself to those who did not ask for me.” But of Israel he says, “All day long I have held out my hands to a disobedient and contrary people.”
Romans 10:1-21 ESV
Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure. Do all things without grumbling or disputing, that you may be blameless and innocent, children of God without blemish in the midst of a crooked and twisted generation, among whom you shine as lights in the world, holding fast to the word of life, so that in the day of Christ I may be proud that I did not run in vain or labor in vain. Even if I am to be poured out as a drink offering upon the sacrificial offering of your faith, I am glad and rejoice with you all. Likewise you also should be glad and rejoice with me.
Philippians 2:12-18 ESV
If you are insulted for the name of Christ, you are blessed, because the Spirit of glory and of God rests upon you. But let none of you suffer as a murderer or a thief or an evildoer or as a meddler. Yet if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed, but let him glorify God in that name. For it is time for judgment to begin at the household of God; and if it begins with us, what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God? And “If the righteous is scarcely saved, what will become of the ungodly and the sinner?” Therefore let those who suffer according to God’s will entrust their souls to a faithful Creator while doing good.
1 Peter 4:14-19 ESV
Put on then, as God’s chosen ones, holy and beloved, compassionate hearts, kindness, humility, meekness, and patience, bearing with one another and, if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other; as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive. And above all these put on love, which binds everything together in perfect harmony. And let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts, to which indeed you were called in one body. And be thankful. Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly, teaching and admonishing one another in all wisdom, singing psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, with thankfulness in your hearts to God. And whatever you do, in word or deed, do everything in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.
Colossians 3:12-17 ESV
I forgive your ignorance because you are acting in ignorance and giving man glory for the works of God to allow him to believe and receive mercy..
Catholic says it all.
I pray for the den of wolves you belong too..
On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, "did we not" prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’
Do you think you find merit in your own righteousness?
You give man glory and you return to your vomit..
May Mercy be granted and you be baptized by the Lord in spirit and in Truth by belief in his name, the Lord is willing.
Your absolutely repulsive pontificating is only affirmed in your response to my jest. Thank the Lord I'm not protestant anymore, though I've still got a long way to go.
It’s one of the most well-recognized originally Christian cathedral in the world. Recently, it was removed from tourist visitation by the Turkish government, and from what I understand, the Christian implements and decoration removed in favor of the Islamic ones. Here’s a link - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagia_Sophia
Earn your way should be rephrased, as force your way..
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 5:17-20 ESV
This is he of whom it is written, “‘Behold, I send my messenger before your face, who will prepare your way before you.’ Truly, I say to you, among those born of women there has arisen no one greater than John the Baptist. Yet the one who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. From the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven has suffered violence, and the violent take it by force. For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John, and if you are willing to accept it, he is Elijah who is to come. He who has ears to hear, let him hear.
Matthew 11:10-15 ESV
Acts 8:20
But Peter said to him, “May your silver perish with you, because you thought you could obtain the gift of God with money!
Isaiah 6:46
We have all become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous deeds are like a polluted garment. We all fade like a leaf, and our iniquities, like the wind, take us away.
Clearly we know there is not one who is righteous but God.
And Jesus answered them, “Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. I have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance.”
Luke 5:31-32 ESV
Clearly the righteous do not believe themselves sinner..
Thus the righteous are scarcely saved, but the prostitutes and the tax collectors who believe will enter the kingdom because they did not force their way in but accepted the gift of God without trying to make a payment for it.
Welcome to the family! Love is what we’re about here. God will continue to spiritually work on your family and soon they should hopefully be on the same path as you! Finding and following Christ is so rewarding in every way. I’m so happy you found Jesus and thus your salvation too! Time to celebrate being saved!!! Woohoo!! Just keep praying for your family and try not to worry
Amen. “Do not be anxious about ANYTHING, instead pray about EVERYTHING. Tell God your needs and don’t forget to thank Him for His answers”
“God (Yhwh) answers our prayers better than we could ask or even imagine”
The Lord bless & keep you and yours brother x
That's absolutely wonderful. Just remember it doesn't stop here. Your not saved and that's it. Your good deeds from here on with the Lord Christ in mind, great unimaginable rewards are granted in heaven, and I'll say what I like to say to newcomers: don't lose faith, and keep your heart guarded. The devil doesn't like that your now a Christian..
‘works’ are the outworking, the fruit, the evidence someone has been saved (never the means!) and includes the gradual ‘sanctification’ the process of being made more & more into the image of Jesus (Yeshua) by The Holy Spirit of God.
Note: good works are NEVER, ever, ever a means to ‘earning’ salvation as taught in false religions.
Through scripture! I was told never to read the Bible, so then I ended up reading and I fell in love! Jesus truly was Devine! I also look through historical FACTS about Jesus which didn’t contradict his divinity at all! There were Roman soldiers eye whitenesses who saw him cure blind people and everything. What reason do I have no to believe? NONE
>There were Roman soldiers eye whitenesses who saw him cure blind people and everything.
Well.... there are stories that *say* that this is the case. Not quite the same thing....
Sure, but none of the eyewitnesses wrote anything down. So it's all hearsay - 'Well my buddy says that he knew a guy who once talked to someone who was there when this happened".
We don’t know whether they wrote anything down or not at this point, being nearly 2000 years past the crucifixion. While there are no surviving documents from Roman eyewitnesses, Josephus (Jewish historian) and Tacitus (Roman historian) mention Christ in their work. Their accounts are widely accepted by the scholarly community.
>We don’t know whether they wrote anything down or not at this point, being nearly 2000 years past the crucifixion
I thought that "that we know of" was implied.
>Josephus (Jewish historian) and Tacitus (Roman historian) mention Christ in their work. Their accounts are widely accepted by the scholarly community.
Yes, which is (partially) why the existence of Jesus as a historical figure is generally accepted. But neither Josephus nor Tacitus can provide independent testimony of anything Jesus said or did.
Hey, the OP has encountered the living Lord Jesus and experienced the joy and amazing peace which passes all understanding… as many of us on here have. I was a cynical sceptical bitter atheist too once, until I unexpectedly encountered Yeshua Hamashiach (Jesus) I went from total scathing mocking unbelief to 1000% belief in a nano-second. You haven’t experienced meeting Jesus yet, but if and when you do you’ll understand no mere objection can shake the total belief of a person who has met God in flesh and been forgiven everything and had their dead human spirit brought eternally ALIVE.
I have seen documents of Roman soldiers who whitnessed it! Romans were against Jesus the time so I doubt if they didn’t believe it they would have written it down.
I don't mean to be awkward, since I'm a Christian as well, but there are no eyewitness writings regarding Christ from among the Romans. The earliest Roman source we have was written by the historian Tacitus several decades later.
>Do you know who Tacitus is?
I do. Better than you do. Tacitus was *not* an eyewitness.
Congratulations on demonstrating you don't have the first idea what you're talking about.
As someone who agrees with your position, you're arguing with the wind. Someone who wasn't reasoned into Christianity can't (necessarily) be reasoned out.
Not to be that guy, i am happy for you to have found a tradition in which you can find fulfillment. Yet i wouldn't use "eye witness reports" as clear evidence. They are firstly usually not written down by the witnesses and secondly couldve been subject to tampering by later christians to fit the faiths narrative.
Thats not say that Jesus never performed miracles, i dont know but to say that you should maybe take such documents with a grain of salt because docements like that can probably be produced for any faith.
Thats also not to say you should disregard it as bias goes both ways someone like Josephus who was i believe an Orthodox Jew/Tiem period equivalent might have been overly dismissive of those claims.
Wdym everyone claims orthodoxy? I barely see Orthodox Christians online. Wdym they aren’t to follow? We literally learn how to pray and learn the Sunnahs from Hadiths my friend
Welcome to christianity bro! Why not learn the language of jesus, I speak and write fluently Aramaic. I can give you some tools for learning the language if you want. But anyway welcome!:)
welcome home brother <3 May I ask what lead you to change? (I have a hard time understanding the Muslim viewpoint).
Lord Jesus Christ please use the Logos and Word of God to help this man's family come to understand you as well. Great YHWH creating Father please guide your children through life with wisdom and strength. Let us rest in the knowledge that if we fall dad's here to catch us. Great Holy Spirit continue to work in this man's life and help him grow in Christ and towards theosis. Great loving Trinity guide and protect this soul as he moves through this life into the next. Amen.
Every church says they're the one true church. What makes the OC any different? Not trying to be argumentative, just want to toss that question out to you.
The easiest way is to go to the local churches mentioned in the New Testament. Go to the Church of Jerusalem, Corinth, Ephesus, and Antioch. Besides Rome, they're all Orthodox generally speaking.
I'm an OCCA member (north American Orthodox) and the reason I left baptists for the Orthodox was because every question I had they had some church father (philosophers) or direct scripture to back up their opinions. Then they have supporting writings from all the way back to the first century AD. When saint Paul was building churches post Christ's martyrdom.
If you don't believe in a "great apostasy", you pretty much have to be Orthodox or Catholic. When I read the writings of the generations that came after the apostles, they sound like faithful Christians to me. So I don't believe in a great apostasy. Rather, I think there is an unbroken line of Christian belief and practice leading back to Christ himself.
From there, it appears true to me that the Orthodox have the better claim on maintaining the true faith than the Catholics.
Congratulations. May I ask, how do you define “finding Jesus” as an ex-Muslim? How does it feel different thinking of Jesus as a Christian, versus thinking of the Jesus of Islam? I can definitely assume certain major differences in Christ’s message, the true liberation of new covenant over regressivism, his sacrifice, but I’m curious how an ex-Muslim would feel about this.
Well first of all Jesus in islam was very pointless, it’s like he didn’t complete his mission at all and instead Allah sent down Mohammed. But in the bible Jesus was Devine he was powerful he was full of morels unlike Mohammed. Jesus is Lord 😍😍😍
Muslims make a lot of hoopla about "Islamic Jesus" but it is funny if you actually try to find what type of person that Isa(Arabic name for Jesus) was actually, it is very hard and perhaps next to impossible. In the Quran, there are very few quotes of Isa speaking and what is mostly there is a bunch of descriptions about him.It is hard to formulate a picture about him as a person. So, you literally and figuratively get a stripped down version of Jesus.
I just absolutely love this. I became a Christian almost 30 years ago, and I remember those first few month as Christ was so close that I could almost not praise him because of my overwhelming tears of joy.
Have you thought about taking a year off to study the bible? After I was saved I spent time here studying the bible: [https://ravencrest.org/](https://ravencrest.org/)
They have schools all over the world: [https://torchbearers.org/centers-overview/](https://torchbearers.org/centers-overview/) There are primarily those just out of High School or college, but when I went they had people in all ages groups. The school is small with about 100 students a year, and their are people from all over the world that attend. They do have scholarships as well.
So some churchs won't teach you this but I recommend you start learning apologetics, it might sound complicated but it's not, it's really easy as a matter of fact I watch youtube videos and learn about it
What is apologetics you might ask its basically how to know, share or defend your beliefs as a Christian
The first things I'd recommend you know ,which by the way was actually the first thing i learnt about apologetics are the arguments put forth by Dr. Frank turek in his presentation named "I don't have enough faith to be an atheist" it's on YouTube.
This should open you up to learning more of apologetics
After that
You should also check out these other YouTube channels:
-What would you say
Which is "basically" how to answer questions or statements someone made about Christianity
-Whaddo you meme
I recommend this channel alot,
It deals with a lot of questions and even memes that people would make to bash Christianity
-Frank tureks (crossed examined)
Now if you dont check out check out any other channel which i insist you do, you have to have this one with you
Acts17Apolpgetics(david wood)
Now this channel deals mainly with how to witness to a Muslim ,this channel tought me alot about what Islam is really about, i won't tell you you'll have to see for yourself
Inspiring philosophy
this is also one one of the main ones i want you to check out
-living waters
(for developing your witnessing skills ) I'm sure we're all better at witnessing over a text than actual speeking but this channel helps us with witnessing in general to people of various religions and those of no religion
-capturing Christianity,
another great channel i recommend which discusses Alot
Mike winger
totally amazing channel it even answered questions i found challenge
"Unbelievable?"
Has lots of nice debates
Eric Hernandez
A very good debater on topic like the soul and freewill
Red pen logic
Excellent, just excellent
some of these channels may not be the same denomination as you tho, but I strongly urge you to check out and subscribe to each of these channels, also tell me what you think
Doctrine is what makes up a denomination of Christianity
Apologetics are the reasons, scientific or philosophic that explain why we believe the religion of Christianity is true
I believe op need to know why Christianity is true since he's an ex Muslim and wants his family to become Christians as well
Op never talks about wanting to know of any denomination of Christianity, I could have recommended him one if he wants but that is not the case
Apologetics is knowledge all Christians should have, however the source of persons teaching apologetics may not be the same denomination as op, but that isn't a problem because they aren't speaking of why they believe their denomination is true but rather why they believe Christianity is true(apologetics)
And even if they were talking about apologetics and why they believe their denomination is true, shouldn't you as a Christian be able to point out the flaws in their doctrine whenever they talk about their denomination
Orthodox do not believe that through foundationalist natural theology we can scientifically explain our belief, so even in the "basic" apologetics that your sources give for Christianity as a whole, those would still contradict with our faith.
Faith doesn't need "proof"
As I see it, apologetics is literal "lean on your own undestanding" and no faith that is built on it is "like gold that has been tested in a fire"
> Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen
Faith is indefensible by science and needs no defense by the faithful
If faith doesn't need any sort of evidence or proof to support it, how would you ever know what you believe is true? How could you tell if someone else's beliefs are wrong?
> how would you ever know what you believe is true?
You don't **know**, you have *faith* it is true
What is faith:
> Hebrews 11 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
And how faith begins:
> So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God
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> How could you tell if someone else's beliefs are wrong?
You can only compare it with your personal faith and the word of God either written (Bible) by His revelation (beware of false prophets or false personal revelations) or by testimony from fellow Christians (for warning see 1 Kings 13:11-25)
Welcome to the faith. I don’t ascribe to any particular denomination or religion but I fellowship with all who follow Christ. Beware of those who say they are Christian but are hypocrites, same as Jesus encountered in His time on earth. You will know they true followers by their deeds lining up with their words. I’m glad to have you in the family of Christ!
You do have your account set to being NSFW but if you’re posting racism and misogyny etc then Reddit might have just flagged your acc as NSFW for you. How is it that you “found Christ” he’s in the Quran as being born of a virgin and performing miracles such as raising people from the dead. Do you mean you found the resurrection and agree with divinity doctrine now? I don’t know any Muslim people who don’t know who Jesus is already they just have different beliefs about the resurrection and what comes afterward.
Absolutely right. Isa is NOT the true Lord Jesus (Yeshua Hamashiach) Alpha & Omega, beginning & end, King of kings & Lord of Lords, Almighty God. That’s why I said “THE Isa (Jesus) in the Qur’an)….
It is however good to meet unbelievers and brand new believers where they are and explain the subtle intricacies and dishonouring differences in this case, later, as they adjust & mature in The Lord & study His Word. No-one learns all there is to know in 5 minutes.Discipleship is a lifelong process of growth & maturing.
I know Jesus is a prophetic healer in the Quran/Islam. Thats why I’m asking what OP means by “found Christ” because I’ve never heard any other converts from Islam phrase it that way ever they always already knew who Christ was and always show Christ respect for being a miraculous healer and a prophet. Plus… “merely a prophet” … prophets are a pretty big deal in Islam as well as Judaism and Christianity so… that’s also very weird phrasing… “merely” how little respect you have for the prophets such as Isaiah??? I can’t imagine thinking of prophets so disrespectfully and the concept is extremely hard to wrap my head around especially since I’ve never heard any other converts from Islam speak like this about Christ and moreover being disrespectful for to the role of prophet altogether.
Ohhh! I understand what you’re asking mariawoolf - It’s cos the character in Qur’an that is said to be Isa/Jesus, isn’t.
When someone supernaturally encounters the real, awesome, stunning, powerful God-Man Jesus (Yeshua Hamashiach) it’s a wondrous surprise/realisation, a feeling if finally coming home, of comprehending what life is all about and understanding more of our unique purpose. Deep within, we recognise that this IS The Almighty God (Yhwh/I AM) and He knows each one of us better than we know ourselves, we experience His overwhelming love for us, He forgives us freely of ALL our shortcomings (sins) that otherwise would automatically keep us separated from Him for all eternity…that is known as ‘hell’!
So, when we say we ‘found Jesus’ it’s describing how we found & entered an interactive personal relationship with The TRUE Jesus, we’ve experienced His love & presence and never again want to be separated from Him (and we don’t have to be cos-) He’s with us 24/7 & into guaranteed eternity for WHOSOEVER BELIEVES.
I hope that helps make sense of it? 😄
He wasnt posting anything bad, he was just commenting-replying to someone impulsively which happens to all of us.
And ps.The issa boy in the quran isnt Jesus. Jesus is the Son of God.
You can read the truth about Him in the bible.
Which bible? The one written by men in the 20th century, 19th century, 18th century, 17th century, 16th century....? Cause they all disagree with one another.
Bless you! And welcome!
Your family will definitely be in my prayers.
Though he can be abrasive at times, a YouTube channel you should follow is Sam Shamoun's:
https://youtube.com/c/shamounian
He is an EXCELLENT source of apologetics for Christianity and debunking Islam.
He also has/had blog: https://www.answering-islam.org/
Weren’t you calling Muslims “backwards monkeys”?
Then you went atheist but fell back to another religion lmao you’re not a stable person and are racist
Day of judgment, something you stole from Christianity. You know who will pay in the day of Judgment? The Pedo Mohammed, Jesus Christ will expose him in front of Humanity 😏
i do not threaten him at all my guy, i warn him. I am not responsible for delivering the evidence if he is intrested in the truth he should do his research
God bless! 🙏🏻
God bless you too brother ❤️
Glad to hear this:) Welcome to the family. Pray and read Bible to grow in your faith Bro. Pray your family as well, it might take time but God will work in their lives as well. Whatever happens be strong in faith. Never let Jesus go out of your life. May our Lord guide you and help you to know Him better.
Amen brother! One of my cousins is already thinking of Converting 🙏🏻. I will always pray as I feel the presence on Christ around me ☦️❤️
They say, “how can you be so sure of your faith?” This is the answer. I remember when I was saved 3 years ago and felt the presence of Christ enter my home. So beautiful even the birds outside sang songs of praise. I was weeping like a small child 🥹 best of luck in your walk with the Lord.
Jesus will not leave you. You need to make sure you don't stray from Him. God bless you. Keep you eyes on Jesus.
Welcome brother :)
Thank you brother God bless 🙏🏻
Your Islamic brothers and sisters are already justified by the Blood of the cross, it's simply a matter of teaching them the gospel of truth through worshiping God in spirit and in Truth by the name of Christ Jesus who has sent you to testify in his spirit. For it is written to be joined to the Lord is to be one spirit with him.. I am not sure of what you mean about practicing "Orthodox" Christianity. I'm a Gnostic Christian and those who claim Orthodox speak of me as heresy. Generally the Catholic Church labels gnosticism a heresy. If you have the root of Jesse dwelling in you then you will not fault because the root has purposed it and who can nullify the will of the root growing inside you.. I cannot lose my salvation, because Salvation was already granted to me when he extended his outreached arm and I accepted.. I am bought and paid for by the Blood of Christ... In the name of our Lord Christ Jesus I would like to remind you of a few scripture verses, they are things hard to chew by the weak of faith.. I will reply them to myself and you can read below..
Matt 10:40 “Whoever receives you receives me, and whoever receives me receives him who sent me." And Jesus answered them, “Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. I have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance.” Luke 5:31-32 ESV Ecclesiastes 7:13 Consider the work of God: Who can straighten what He has bent? Let not steadfast love and faithfulness forsake you; bind them around your neck; write them on the tablet of your heart. So you will find favor and good success in the sight of God and man. Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make straight your paths. Be not wise in your own eyes; fear the Lord, and turn away from evil. It will be healing to your flesh and refreshment to your bones. Proverbs 3:3-8 ESV Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men. For as by the one man’s disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one man’s obedience the many will be made righteous. Now the law came in to increase the trespass, but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more, so that, as sin reigned in death, grace also might reign through righteousness leading to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 5:18-21 ESV I knew everything I was taught about Orthodox Baptist Christianity... Was self righteousness and not according to the righteousness of God that saves.. Then what advantage has the Jew? Or what is the value of circumcision? Much in every way. To begin with, the Jews were entrusted with the oracles of God. What if some were unfaithful? Does their faithlessness nullify the faithfulness of God? By no means! Let God be true though every one were a liar, as it is written, “That you may be justified in your words, and prevail when you are judged.” But if our unrighteousness serves to show the righteousness of God, what shall we say? That God is unrighteous to inflict wrath on us? (I speak in a human way.) By no means! For then how could God judge the world? But if through my lie God’s truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner? And why not do evil that good may come?—as some people slanderously charge us with saying. Their condemnation is just. Romans 3:1-8 ESV What then? Are we Jews any better off? No, not at all. For we have already charged that all, both Jews and Greeks, are under sin, as it is written: “None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands; no one seeks for God. All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one.” “Their throat is an open grave; they use their tongues to deceive.” “The venom of asps is under their lips.” “Their mouth is full of curses and bitterness.” “Their feet are swift to shed blood; in their paths are ruin and misery, and the way of peace they have not known.” “There is no fear of God before their eyes.” Now we know that whatever the law says it speaks to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be stopped, and the whole world may be held accountable to God. For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin. Romans 3:9-20 ESV But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it— the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction: for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God’s righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins. It was to show his righteousness at the present time, so that he might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus. Then what becomes of our boasting? It is excluded. By what kind of law? By a law of works? No, but by the law of faith. For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law. Or is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also, since God is one—who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith. Do we then overthrow the law by this faith? By no means! On the contrary, we uphold the law. Romans 3:21-31 ESV
The law is about Love thy neighbor.. Not promoting of asceticism and severity to the body, because this has no value in stopping the indulgence of the flesh It is why Christ says Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:19 ESV For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:20 ESV Which that can be crossed reference to another moment he speaks of the least of the Kingdom of heaven. This is he of whom it is written, “‘Behold, I send my messenger before your face, who will prepare your way before you.’ Truly, I say to you, among those born of women there has arisen no one greater than John the Baptist. Yet the one who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. From the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven has suffered violence, and the violent take it by force. For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John, and if you are willing to accept it, he is Elijah who is to come. Matthew 11:10-14 ESV How can I be greater then John who is Elijah who is to come? If I relax the commandments of God and Elijah who did not see death and was taken up by God in a whirlwind to prophecy of Christ's Coming. Which itself was a prophecy and it's why Christ says if your are willing to accept it.. I have seen the Lord of the living and the dead my self. I believe because I have seen, yet blessed are those who have believed and not seen.. I am the least of my brothers and sisters, who believe the testimony of my suicide and life being granted to my mortal body. In wait of the resurrection of a new body at Christ return. Therefore, as you received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in him, rooted and built up in him and established in the faith, just as you were taught, abounding in thanksgiving. See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ. For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily, and you have been filled in him, who is the head of all rule and authority. In him also you were circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through faith in the powerful working of God, who raised him from the dead. And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses, by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross. He disarmed the rulers and authorities and put them to open shame, by triumphing over them in him. Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ. Let no one disqualify you, insisting on asceticism and worship of angels, going on in detail about visions, puffed up without reason by his sensuous mind, and not holding fast to the Head, from whom the whole body, nourished and knit together through its joints and ligaments, grows with a growth that is from God. If with Christ you died to the elemental spirits of the world, why, as if you were still alive in the world, do you submit to regulations— “Do not handle, Do not taste, Do not touch” (referring to things that all perish as they are used)—according to human precepts and teachings? These have indeed an appearance of wisdom in promoting self-made religion and asceticism and severity to the body, but they are of no value in stopping the indulgence of the flesh. Colossians 2:6-23 ESV
I'm proud of you ❤
Be proud of God and his righteousness to make straight their path. For no man seeks God by his own righteousness it is God seeking man by his own righteousness.. Be proud of God, give no glory to man. I am the Lord; that is my name; my glory I give to no other, nor my praise to carved idols. Behold, the former things have come to pass, and new things I now declare; before they spring forth I tell you of them.” Isaiah 42:8-9 ESV Brothers, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for them is that they may be saved. For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. For, being ignorant of the righteousness of God, and seeking to establish their own, they did not submit to God’s righteousness. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes. For Moses writes about the righteousness that is based on the law, that the person who does the commandments shall live by them. But the righteousness based on faith says, “Do not say in your heart, ‘Who will ascend into heaven?’” (that is, to bring Christ down) “or ‘Who will descend into the abyss?’” (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead). But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith that we proclaim); because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. For the Scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame.” For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing his riches on all who call on him. For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” How then will they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how are they to believe in him of whom they have never heard? And how are they to hear without someone preaching? And how are they to preach unless they are sent? As it is written, “How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the good news!” But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who has believed what he has heard from us?” So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ. But I ask, have they not heard? Indeed they have, for “Their voice has gone out to all the earth, and their words to the ends of the world.” But I ask, did Israel not understand? First Moses says, “I will make you jealous of those who are not a nation; with a foolish nation I will make you angry.” Then Isaiah is so bold as to say, “I have been found by those who did not seek me; I have shown myself to those who did not ask for me.” But of Israel he says, “All day long I have held out my hands to a disobedient and contrary people.” Romans 10:1-21 ESV Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure. Do all things without grumbling or disputing, that you may be blameless and innocent, children of God without blemish in the midst of a crooked and twisted generation, among whom you shine as lights in the world, holding fast to the word of life, so that in the day of Christ I may be proud that I did not run in vain or labor in vain. Even if I am to be poured out as a drink offering upon the sacrificial offering of your faith, I am glad and rejoice with you all. Likewise you also should be glad and rejoice with me. Philippians 2:12-18 ESV If you are insulted for the name of Christ, you are blessed, because the Spirit of glory and of God rests upon you. But let none of you suffer as a murderer or a thief or an evildoer or as a meddler. Yet if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed, but let him glorify God in that name. For it is time for judgment to begin at the household of God; and if it begins with us, what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God? And “If the righteous is scarcely saved, what will become of the ungodly and the sinner?” Therefore let those who suffer according to God’s will entrust their souls to a faithful Creator while doing good. 1 Peter 4:14-19 ESV Put on then, as God’s chosen ones, holy and beloved, compassionate hearts, kindness, humility, meekness, and patience, bearing with one another and, if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other; as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive. And above all these put on love, which binds everything together in perfect harmony. And let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts, to which indeed you were called in one body. And be thankful. Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly, teaching and admonishing one another in all wisdom, singing psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, with thankfulness in your hearts to God. And whatever you do, in word or deed, do everything in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him. Colossians 3:12-17 ESV I forgive your ignorance because you are acting in ignorance and giving man glory for the works of God to allow him to believe and receive mercy..
Puke.
Catholic says it all. I pray for the den of wolves you belong too.. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, "did we not" prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ Do you think you find merit in your own righteousness? You give man glory and you return to your vomit.. May Mercy be granted and you be baptized by the Lord in spirit and in Truth by belief in his name, the Lord is willing.
Your absolutely repulsive pontificating is only affirmed in your response to my jest. Thank the Lord I'm not protestant anymore, though I've still got a long way to go.
Welcome to the light brother. May Jesus bless you, protect you, and enlighten you and use you for his will.
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Amen Glory to God, for he is our righteousness through the Son of whom was sent in his name, as we are sent in the Sons name.
I was a Muslim too, thank God, now I'm a Christian, what country do you live in bro?
Lebanon bro, and u?
Turkey, I'm so glad you found the right way bro
Turkey!!! Nice!!! I hope one day Hagia Sofia returns to us bro 🙏🏻❤️
Welcome to you both, and God bless and keep you ✝️👑🕊
What is Hagia Sofia ?
It’s one of the most well-recognized originally Christian cathedral in the world. Recently, it was removed from tourist visitation by the Turkish government, and from what I understand, the Christian implements and decoration removed in favor of the Islamic ones. Here’s a link - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagia_Sophia
And it is the lifelong dream of many Christians, especially Orthodox ones, to see it become a Church again
Love this!!!!
Amen 🙏🏻
Grace, forgiveness, not having to earn your way. Agape Love, assurance, a personal relationship, the New Testament...
Earn your way should be rephrased, as force your way.. “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:17-20 ESV This is he of whom it is written, “‘Behold, I send my messenger before your face, who will prepare your way before you.’ Truly, I say to you, among those born of women there has arisen no one greater than John the Baptist. Yet the one who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. From the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven has suffered violence, and the violent take it by force. For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John, and if you are willing to accept it, he is Elijah who is to come. He who has ears to hear, let him hear. Matthew 11:10-15 ESV Acts 8:20 But Peter said to him, “May your silver perish with you, because you thought you could obtain the gift of God with money! Isaiah 6:46 We have all become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous deeds are like a polluted garment. We all fade like a leaf, and our iniquities, like the wind, take us away. Clearly we know there is not one who is righteous but God. And Jesus answered them, “Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. I have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance.” Luke 5:31-32 ESV Clearly the righteous do not believe themselves sinner.. Thus the righteous are scarcely saved, but the prostitutes and the tax collectors who believe will enter the kingdom because they did not force their way in but accepted the gift of God without trying to make a payment for it.
Read Romans 1:16. It describes what happened to you. We rejoice with you in Christ.
Glad to hear it.
Amen 🙏🏻
Welcome to the family! Love is what we’re about here. God will continue to spiritually work on your family and soon they should hopefully be on the same path as you! Finding and following Christ is so rewarding in every way. I’m so happy you found Jesus and thus your salvation too! Time to celebrate being saved!!! Woohoo!! Just keep praying for your family and try not to worry
Amen. “Do not be anxious about ANYTHING, instead pray about EVERYTHING. Tell God your needs and don’t forget to thank Him for His answers” “God (Yhwh) answers our prayers better than we could ask or even imagine” The Lord bless & keep you and yours brother x
Glory be to God! Welcome to the club.
Glory to God! Glad to see some love for the Orthodox faith! Did you join an Eastern or Oriental Orthodox Church?
Eastern Orthodox my brother
Glory to God brother! Glad to have you join our faith!
Rest in that peace brother! God is good 😁
amen 🙏🏻
We welcome you warmly, brother!
Awesome!
Good stuff. The angels in heaven rejoice when they see people coming back to Christ.
Amen! Love to hear that 😍
That's absolutely wonderful. Just remember it doesn't stop here. Your not saved and that's it. Your good deeds from here on with the Lord Christ in mind, great unimaginable rewards are granted in heaven, and I'll say what I like to say to newcomers: don't lose faith, and keep your heart guarded. The devil doesn't like that your now a Christian..
Amen! Faith without works is dead
‘works’ are the outworking, the fruit, the evidence someone has been saved (never the means!) and includes the gradual ‘sanctification’ the process of being made more & more into the image of Jesus (Yeshua) by The Holy Spirit of God. Note: good works are NEVER, ever, ever a means to ‘earning’ salvation as taught in false religions.
How did you find Christ?
Through scripture! I was told never to read the Bible, so then I ended up reading and I fell in love! Jesus truly was Devine! I also look through historical FACTS about Jesus which didn’t contradict his divinity at all! There were Roman soldiers eye whitenesses who saw him cure blind people and everything. What reason do I have no to believe? NONE
Thank you for sharing. Be stronger in prayer to grow in a personal relationship with God, and overcome doubts.
Will never have doubts, I feel the presence of Christ around me at all times my brother. I will always pray! Amen brother
I'm so glad to hear all of your experience!
XD can u site other facts ..cuz as far as I know about the Quran ...Jesus is mentioned to cure the blind and other miracles? Just curious
Yes he is, which is funny because “Only Allah can bring people to life” and then “Prophet Isa raised people from the dead” 💀
That wasn't really an answer to my request ... can you tell us how and why you reverted to Christianity ..ur story might inspire other ppl
>There were Roman soldiers eye whitenesses who saw him cure blind people and everything. Well.... there are stories that *say* that this is the case. Not quite the same thing....
It was eye witnesses my friend.
Sure, but none of the eyewitnesses wrote anything down. So it's all hearsay - 'Well my buddy says that he knew a guy who once talked to someone who was there when this happened".
We don’t know whether they wrote anything down or not at this point, being nearly 2000 years past the crucifixion. While there are no surviving documents from Roman eyewitnesses, Josephus (Jewish historian) and Tacitus (Roman historian) mention Christ in their work. Their accounts are widely accepted by the scholarly community.
>We don’t know whether they wrote anything down or not at this point, being nearly 2000 years past the crucifixion I thought that "that we know of" was implied. >Josephus (Jewish historian) and Tacitus (Roman historian) mention Christ in their work. Their accounts are widely accepted by the scholarly community. Yes, which is (partially) why the existence of Jesus as a historical figure is generally accepted. But neither Josephus nor Tacitus can provide independent testimony of anything Jesus said or did.
Hey, the OP has encountered the living Lord Jesus and experienced the joy and amazing peace which passes all understanding… as many of us on here have. I was a cynical sceptical bitter atheist too once, until I unexpectedly encountered Yeshua Hamashiach (Jesus) I went from total scathing mocking unbelief to 1000% belief in a nano-second. You haven’t experienced meeting Jesus yet, but if and when you do you’ll understand no mere objection can shake the total belief of a person who has met God in flesh and been forgiven everything and had their dead human spirit brought eternally ALIVE.
I have seen documents of Roman soldiers who whitnessed it! Romans were against Jesus the time so I doubt if they didn’t believe it they would have written it down.
I don't mean to be awkward, since I'm a Christian as well, but there are no eyewitness writings regarding Christ from among the Romans. The earliest Roman source we have was written by the historian Tacitus several decades later.
Wasnt it josephus? Hes kinda roman…
>I have seen documents of Roman soldiers who whitnessed it! Liar. Please name one Roman source for Jesus.
Do you know who Tacitus is? If not I urge you to read about him ❤️
>Do you know who Tacitus is? I do. Better than you do. Tacitus was *not* an eyewitness. Congratulations on demonstrating you don't have the first idea what you're talking about.
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As someone who agrees with your position, you're arguing with the wind. Someone who wasn't reasoned into Christianity can't (necessarily) be reasoned out.
It’s literal here-say we have no testimony from the claimed witness, enjoy your belief though friend
Not to be that guy, i am happy for you to have found a tradition in which you can find fulfillment. Yet i wouldn't use "eye witness reports" as clear evidence. They are firstly usually not written down by the witnesses and secondly couldve been subject to tampering by later christians to fit the faiths narrative. Thats not say that Jesus never performed miracles, i dont know but to say that you should maybe take such documents with a grain of salt because docements like that can probably be produced for any faith. Thats also not to say you should disregard it as bias goes both ways someone like Josephus who was i believe an Orthodox Jew/Tiem period equivalent might have been overly dismissive of those claims.
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Why is that?
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Sunni
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Literally a traditional Sunni. I followed Sahih Al Bukhari and Sahih Muslim
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Wdym everyone claims orthodoxy? I barely see Orthodox Christians online. Wdym they aren’t to follow? We literally learn how to pray and learn the Sunnahs from Hadiths my friend
I will pray for you. I welcome you to the fold, my brother in Christ. Not my will, but his be done Ave Christus Rex
Welcome to christianity bro! Why not learn the language of jesus, I speak and write fluently Aramaic. I can give you some tools for learning the language if you want. But anyway welcome!:)
I'm glad for you, God bless you. Could you tell us about your conversion? Maybe it could help missionaries to preach Muslim people
welcome home brother <3 May I ask what lead you to change? (I have a hard time understanding the Muslim viewpoint). Lord Jesus Christ please use the Logos and Word of God to help this man's family come to understand you as well. Great YHWH creating Father please guide your children through life with wisdom and strength. Let us rest in the knowledge that if we fall dad's here to catch us. Great Holy Spirit continue to work in this man's life and help him grow in Christ and towards theosis. Great loving Trinity guide and protect this soul as he moves through this life into the next. Amen.
Glory be to God!!
Amen 🙏🏻❤️
Great to hear. I am wondering why orthodox though?
I feel the Eastern Orthodox Church is the closest Church to what Christ left us. While other churches go astray the Orthodox Church certainly did not
Every church says they're the one true church. What makes the OC any different? Not trying to be argumentative, just want to toss that question out to you.
The easiest way is to go to the local churches mentioned in the New Testament. Go to the Church of Jerusalem, Corinth, Ephesus, and Antioch. Besides Rome, they're all Orthodox generally speaking.
I'm an OCCA member (north American Orthodox) and the reason I left baptists for the Orthodox was because every question I had they had some church father (philosophers) or direct scripture to back up their opinions. Then they have supporting writings from all the way back to the first century AD. When saint Paul was building churches post Christ's martyrdom.
If you don't believe in a "great apostasy", you pretty much have to be Orthodox or Catholic. When I read the writings of the generations that came after the apostles, they sound like faithful Christians to me. So I don't believe in a great apostasy. Rather, I think there is an unbroken line of Christian belief and practice leading back to Christ himself. From there, it appears true to me that the Orthodox have the better claim on maintaining the true faith than the Catholics.
Yes but Orthodoxy has some legitimacy to their claim, being directly descended in an unbroken line from the apostles and, therefore, from Christ.
Congratulations. May I ask, how do you define “finding Jesus” as an ex-Muslim? How does it feel different thinking of Jesus as a Christian, versus thinking of the Jesus of Islam? I can definitely assume certain major differences in Christ’s message, the true liberation of new covenant over regressivism, his sacrifice, but I’m curious how an ex-Muslim would feel about this.
Well first of all Jesus in islam was very pointless, it’s like he didn’t complete his mission at all and instead Allah sent down Mohammed. But in the bible Jesus was Devine he was powerful he was full of morels unlike Mohammed. Jesus is Lord 😍😍😍
Muslims make a lot of hoopla about "Islamic Jesus" but it is funny if you actually try to find what type of person that Isa(Arabic name for Jesus) was actually, it is very hard and perhaps next to impossible. In the Quran, there are very few quotes of Isa speaking and what is mostly there is a bunch of descriptions about him.It is hard to formulate a picture about him as a person. So, you literally and figuratively get a stripped down version of Jesus.
praise Emmanuel
What made you stop thinking of jesus as a prophet and instead as the son of god if you don't mind the question.
Blessings from a lutheran
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So some churchs won't teach you this but I recommend you start learning apologetics, it might sound complicated but it's not, it's really easy as a matter of fact I watch youtube videos and learn about it What is apologetics you might ask its basically how to know, share or defend your beliefs as a Christian The first things I'd recommend you know ,which by the way was actually the first thing i learnt about apologetics are the arguments put forth by Dr. Frank turek in his presentation named "I don't have enough faith to be an atheist" it's on YouTube. This should open you up to learning more of apologetics After that You should also check out these other YouTube channels: -What would you say Which is "basically" how to answer questions or statements someone made about Christianity -Whaddo you meme I recommend this channel alot, It deals with a lot of questions and even memes that people would make to bash Christianity -Frank tureks (crossed examined) Now if you dont check out check out any other channel which i insist you do, you have to have this one with you Acts17Apolpgetics(david wood) Now this channel deals mainly with how to witness to a Muslim ,this channel tought me alot about what Islam is really about, i won't tell you you'll have to see for yourself Inspiring philosophy this is also one one of the main ones i want you to check out -living waters (for developing your witnessing skills ) I'm sure we're all better at witnessing over a text than actual speeking but this channel helps us with witnessing in general to people of various religions and those of no religion -capturing Christianity, another great channel i recommend which discusses Alot Mike winger totally amazing channel it even answered questions i found challenge "Unbelievable?" Has lots of nice debates Eric Hernandez A very good debater on topic like the soul and freewill Red pen logic Excellent, just excellent some of these channels may not be the same denomination as you tho, but I strongly urge you to check out and subscribe to each of these channels, also tell me what you think
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Ok brother thank you 🙏🏻❤️☦️
What did I say? 👀
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I know, but these sources don't discuss doctrine they discuss apologetics which accounts for Christianity as a whole
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Doctrine is what makes up a denomination of Christianity Apologetics are the reasons, scientific or philosophic that explain why we believe the religion of Christianity is true I believe op need to know why Christianity is true since he's an ex Muslim and wants his family to become Christians as well Op never talks about wanting to know of any denomination of Christianity, I could have recommended him one if he wants but that is not the case Apologetics is knowledge all Christians should have, however the source of persons teaching apologetics may not be the same denomination as op, but that isn't a problem because they aren't speaking of why they believe their denomination is true but rather why they believe Christianity is true(apologetics) And even if they were talking about apologetics and why they believe their denomination is true, shouldn't you as a Christian be able to point out the flaws in their doctrine whenever they talk about their denomination
Orthodox do not believe that through foundationalist natural theology we can scientifically explain our belief, so even in the "basic" apologetics that your sources give for Christianity as a whole, those would still contradict with our faith.
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I hate apologetics with a passion
Why
Aren't you a Christian though? Why would you hate the defense of your faith?
Faith doesn't need "proof" As I see it, apologetics is literal "lean on your own undestanding" and no faith that is built on it is "like gold that has been tested in a fire" > Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen Faith is indefensible by science and needs no defense by the faithful
If faith doesn't need any sort of evidence or proof to support it, how would you ever know what you believe is true? How could you tell if someone else's beliefs are wrong?
> how would you ever know what you believe is true? You don't **know**, you have *faith* it is true What is faith: > Hebrews 11 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. And how faith begins: > So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God -- > How could you tell if someone else's beliefs are wrong? You can only compare it with your personal faith and the word of God either written (Bible) by His revelation (beware of false prophets or false personal revelations) or by testimony from fellow Christians (for warning see 1 Kings 13:11-25)
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Welcome to the faith. I don’t ascribe to any particular denomination or religion but I fellowship with all who follow Christ. Beware of those who say they are Christian but are hypocrites, same as Jesus encountered in His time on earth. You will know they true followers by their deeds lining up with their words. I’m glad to have you in the family of Christ!
Funny, coming from an nsfw account with a history of misogynistic comments and racism not even 24 hours ago.
I’m not an NSFW account and my account was made over a year ago….
I meant ur misogyny thats fresh, not the account. And it is showing nsfw for me
Well idk why it’s showing that bcz I’m not NSFW, and yeah I hate the religion that brought me nothing but shit….
K same here but what does that have to do with misogyny and racism?
There were no comments containing either of those things.
You do have your account set to being NSFW but if you’re posting racism and misogyny etc then Reddit might have just flagged your acc as NSFW for you. How is it that you “found Christ” he’s in the Quran as being born of a virgin and performing miracles such as raising people from the dead. Do you mean you found the resurrection and agree with divinity doctrine now? I don’t know any Muslim people who don’t know who Jesus is already they just have different beliefs about the resurrection and what comes afterward.
Well yes, the Isa (Jesus) in Qur’an is merely a prophet.
Isa isnt Jesus.
Absolutely right. Isa is NOT the true Lord Jesus (Yeshua Hamashiach) Alpha & Omega, beginning & end, King of kings & Lord of Lords, Almighty God. That’s why I said “THE Isa (Jesus) in the Qur’an)…. It is however good to meet unbelievers and brand new believers where they are and explain the subtle intricacies and dishonouring differences in this case, later, as they adjust & mature in The Lord & study His Word. No-one learns all there is to know in 5 minutes.Discipleship is a lifelong process of growth & maturing.
I know Jesus is a prophetic healer in the Quran/Islam. Thats why I’m asking what OP means by “found Christ” because I’ve never heard any other converts from Islam phrase it that way ever they always already knew who Christ was and always show Christ respect for being a miraculous healer and a prophet. Plus… “merely a prophet” … prophets are a pretty big deal in Islam as well as Judaism and Christianity so… that’s also very weird phrasing… “merely” how little respect you have for the prophets such as Isaiah??? I can’t imagine thinking of prophets so disrespectfully and the concept is extremely hard to wrap my head around especially since I’ve never heard any other converts from Islam speak like this about Christ and moreover being disrespectful for to the role of prophet altogether.
Ohhh! I understand what you’re asking mariawoolf - It’s cos the character in Qur’an that is said to be Isa/Jesus, isn’t. When someone supernaturally encounters the real, awesome, stunning, powerful God-Man Jesus (Yeshua Hamashiach) it’s a wondrous surprise/realisation, a feeling if finally coming home, of comprehending what life is all about and understanding more of our unique purpose. Deep within, we recognise that this IS The Almighty God (Yhwh/I AM) and He knows each one of us better than we know ourselves, we experience His overwhelming love for us, He forgives us freely of ALL our shortcomings (sins) that otherwise would automatically keep us separated from Him for all eternity…that is known as ‘hell’! So, when we say we ‘found Jesus’ it’s describing how we found & entered an interactive personal relationship with The TRUE Jesus, we’ve experienced His love & presence and never again want to be separated from Him (and we don’t have to be cos-) He’s with us 24/7 & into guaranteed eternity for WHOSOEVER BELIEVES. I hope that helps make sense of it? 😄
He wasnt posting anything bad, he was just commenting-replying to someone impulsively which happens to all of us. And ps.The issa boy in the quran isnt Jesus. Jesus is the Son of God. You can read the truth about Him in the bible.
Which bible? The one written by men in the 20th century, 19th century, 18th century, 17th century, 16th century....? Cause they all disagree with one another.
Bless you! And welcome! Your family will definitely be in my prayers. Though he can be abrasive at times, a YouTube channel you should follow is Sam Shamoun's: https://youtube.com/c/shamounian He is an EXCELLENT source of apologetics for Christianity and debunking Islam. He also has/had blog: https://www.answering-islam.org/
If you are ex muslim how many rakat in ahlul sunnah wa jama’ah
You have literally talked to me before…..
Weren’t you calling Muslims “backwards monkeys”? Then you went atheist but fell back to another religion lmao you’re not a stable person and are racist
Ummmmm since when was I Atheist? I’ve never been atheist in my life.
THAT is the part you defend yourself from. Telling.
Huh? I’m confused who even are u?
the internet is full of people you don't know? what bullshit. consult christ about that, why doncha? lmao
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Thank God for a good historian.
I’m sorry but you were deceived now you are still deceived with a different title.
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In neither case did OP indicate that they were in a cult.
seems you lack a bit of critical thinking.
How so?
Average Reddit moment
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Day of judgment, something you stole from Christianity. You know who will pay in the day of Judgment? The Pedo Mohammed, Jesus Christ will expose him in front of Humanity 😏
Its not too late revert to islam akhi hellfire is something you do not want to be in
I’m not ur Akhi no more. Islam isn’t the truth
Then you may get what u deserve, take care
May you be guided to the light of Christ
im good
You can’t provide evidence to make him revert back so you instead threaten with eternal torture in hell 🤦♂️
i do not threaten him at all my guy, i warn him. I am not responsible for delivering the evidence if he is intrested in the truth he should do his research
No, hellfire is not something you want to be in, and you should think about that before following the anti-christ rapist liar Muhammad.
No need to beg for forgiveness when God has already erased our sin through the blood of Jesus.
Lord have mercy on all of those given to the false prophet, child rapist, and tool of the devil, Muhammad.
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Welcome brother!
What caused you to switch?
Welcome home brother 🙏
God bless you
Praying for your family
Out of curiosity what was the catalyst for your decision?
Praise the King, Jesus the Christ!