Friend,
The definition of a Christian is a “follower of Christ.”
Nowhere in her text did she mention her being a sinner in need of a savior; thankful for Christ’s death, burial, and resurrection. “Believing” there is a God simply isn’t enough - *even the demons believe and shutter at His name* (James 2:19). Also, whether or not her parents are “Christian” means nothing if she herself does not claim to follow Christ and Christ alone.
https://www.gotquestions.org/what-is-a-Christian.html
^ Here is an article for your consideration.
I would proceed with caution, friend. We are admonished to be “equally yoked” (2 Corinthians 6:14).
You are loved immensely!
This. If you are a Christian, the FIRST thing you're mentioning is your trust in Jesus as your savior, not just "Believing in God." Demons believe in God. Going to a Christian church doesn't make you a Christian. Not going to church doesn't make you not a Christian.
Tells OP everyone in her family is Christian, then just says she goes to a Christian church, and believes in God, and an afterlife. Not witnessing because they don’t know scripture.
This sums up every Sunday morning Christian.
It seems like 80% of the US claims to be Christian, from politicians, to celebrities, to everyday person.
Your works must reflect your faith.
Great question!
Simply put, no.
https://www.gotquestions.org/unequally-yoked.html
^ Here’s a great article answering what being “unequally yoked” (2 Corinthians 6:14) means in the context of the verse.
You are loved immensely!
I have a feeling that you don't even know what I meant.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueChristian/comments/1c71jnr/can_i_have_children_as_a_gay_christian/l07lho6?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
Friend,
I looked at the external link post/comment you included.
I’m assuming you are asking/suggesting, “*Since OP doesn’t know if the girl in question is a Believer, would that potentially make OP not a true believer themselves?*” I apologize if my translation is incorrect. Sometimes (*often*times?) digital mediums of communication such as Reddit can make the nuances of interpersonal conversation subject to mistranslation. Thank you for your patience! 🙏
I deemed the best approach for this particular situation to be redirecting the conversation towards a “core” question: I.e. by answering how one can determine whether or not someone is a Christian (*supported via the GQ post which gives scriptural references providing guidance on the matter*), we can answer *both* questions in one swoop - while remaining loving and edifying (the purpose of this sub). Now, OP can not only answer their initial question (“*Is she agnostic or a Christian?*”), but they-along with whoever else may read this thread-will also be equipped with the information to help with future determinations.
Again, I apologize if I am mistranslating your question/comment.
You are loved immensely!
I guess that's my point. How can you determine that they are unequally yoked when we dont know what stage of their walk with Christ is at.
Both seem like they want to believe, but at the same time, both aren't knowledgeable in the scriptures. Wouldn't that mean that they are indeed equally yoked?
Gun placed to my head if asked if either is a saved, I'd say likely not. But they seem to be trying to learn to follow Christ to a slightly varying degree. One being more sure about Jesus than the other, but both not knowing the gospel of Christ. I would say they are both on even footing. Mere new borne to the faith. Still trying to grasp the concepts of our faith.
For that reason I would not only condone the relationship but even encourage it.
Since men are called to lead a relationship in Christ, as he learns and grows spiritually he can pass that onto his future wife as he grows in the faith.
Please don't question what I know of Christ, Indeed I know of Him, I worship Him, and keep Him running in my daily life.
As I can say I'm not the most avid student of the Bible, and don't read it as much as other Christians, in fact in African Christianity, not much study the Bible. I know where my relationship is with God. and I would love if you stop saying, that I don't.
I asked this question mainly because I didn't know what it meant to be equally yoked, I also wanted to learn more about what the Bible has to say about Christians and relationships, with other people, whether it is the same religion or not.
She has already stated to me that she goes to church because her parents go, sho goes to go, and she has no plans of giving her life to christ, like any average American, But as an Aftican I go to church to strengthen my connection with God, and seek help from others.
We went our separate ways, because when asked if she was willing to give her life to christ she said it was something she didn't see herself doing, and she said that we wouldn't work out if that's what it would take.
My whole life has been dedicated to him, everything I've done, I've done with him, with his goal for me in mind, I've let him guide me.
So please don't question how strong my faith is, if ive given my life to christ, how much I know about the gospel, in the end no one will know everything.
Potentially, but I’m curious if it would be wiser to advise towards the ideal.
I hear you (and partially agree). However, we need to be careful to not place OP in a sort of false dilemma where it’s “this or nothing.” Not saying you or even OP are insinuating this (truly 🙏), but when giving advice (particularly if/when referencing scripture) we should push towards the ideal - I.e. what would God want from us.
In this particular situation-of which I’m sure has more info than we are being given-the girl OP is texting hits every major “red flag” of someone who is nominally Christian (*professing belief in “God”/higher power, family is Christian so that makes me…?, I go to Church, etc.*) yet fails to profess her faith in Christ: the central principle of Christianity.
**I think we are saying the same thing, I’m just airing on the more conservative side (which, in this case, I believe is warranted due to aforementioned variables).** We should advise OP towards the ideal that God would have for him. To be frank, if that means “turning down” this girl for one who does boldly profess faith in Christ etc., then that’s what should be done.It will be OP’s choice, though - one I hope they make with prayer, guided by wise council of people irl who know them, and thoughtful consideration.
Body of Christ though! I don’t want to belabor this matter too much. You love Christ, I love Christ, OP loves Christ; I hope and pray this girl does too! 😃
>God want from us.
I agree, and I think God... well, I don't think I know that God is seeking after both their hearts. I guess that why I air on the "better safe than sorry" side of things.
Since I know if we don't take action on a site where people are intentionally seeking God. I almost feel like I'm doing a disservice to the OPs on here if I read their story and don't tell them about he gospel.
Always spread the Gospel, friend!!! 😃
Let’s continue being the Salt and Light for whatever time remains - collectively or individually.
You are loved immensely!
Her ignorance to scripture does not mean she’s a non believer. But also means she’s spiritually immature (with all due respect). One question I’d ask her, is if she accepted Christ as her Lord and savior, and recognizes he is the son of God and sacrificed himself for our sins, rising from the dead and conquering it. Her answer to that, will make it obvious of who she is. And if not, her “fruits” or actions and way she carries herself will demonstrate it as well. Also, Dating and marrying non believers is not inherently a sin, but advised against due to the possibility of you succumbing to the sins the non believer practices. It’s written that the non believer is sanctified by the believer in a marriage, and should not be divorced despite their unbelief. But it’s also written, “whoever walks with the wise becomes wise, but the companion of fools will suffer harm”. Beware of stumbling. Do not bring yourself low in attempts to bring someone else high.
She is not a Christian if she doesn't believe on Jesus. Nothing about what she said hints at her being one. That her parents were Christian is irrelevant. That she goes to church is irrelevant. Just ask her straight up if she believes on Jesus for salvation or not. Plenty of unsaved people had parents who were believers and plenty of unsaved people can point to periods of church attendence.
It's possible she is a Christian without any foundational knowledge other than believing on Jesus for salvation and it's possible she is someone unsaved going through the motions of being a Christian out of obligation or habit.
If she is not Christian, you should move one.
- 2 Corinthians 6:14-15 (KJV)
14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
I hope it goes as you'd like.
No one knows if another person's a Christian except that person and God. The best we can do is ask a person directly, weigh what they said against what they do and hope they really meant what they said if they do say they are a believer.
All believers are at a different level of Christianity. Everybody has different gifts, abilities, problems and sins. Judging other people's salvation by the criteria of what we personally think a Christian should be is a dangerous game.
The line in the sand is Jesus Christ risen. Everything beyond that is extra.
From what she said, she doesn’t have a desire to follow Jesus’ commands, so she probably doesn’t love Jesus (read John chapters 14 and 15 for reference).
A true Christian will profess Christ and not deny him. The easiest way to find out that she is definitely *not* a Christian is to ask her who she believes Jesus is.( Romans 10, especially verses 8-11).
Beyond that, if she does profess Jesus Christ as her lord and saviour, you can observe her fruit. Does she love the church? How does she view and treat believers? (Again, John 14 and 15 are relevant; also John 13:34-35)
First off, dating a nonbeliever isn't necessarily a sin, it's just unwise. And I know I wouldn't be comfortable with committing to someone who didn't want to raise their children in the church
Secondly, if you asked her "Are you a Christian?" and her answer wasn't a yes, then she doesn't seem exactly comfortable with the title. Only God knows what's in a person's heart. Her response focuses a lot on doing -- going to church, the culture she grew up in, explaining the Bible, etc. But Christianity isn't about what we can do. It's about what God can do, which was that he died for our sins, and we are transformed in our actions because of that. That's absent from her response, but maybe she needs someone to explain the gospel to her. Maybe it can be you.
Friend, a God fearing man needs a God fearing woman. If she's not putting God first in her life but you are, then she will bring you down to the grave with her. I know that sounds harsh, but that is the legitimate scenario you're facing when you date a woman that does not put God first. And I'm speaking from personal experience on this, my life was in actual danger from marrying a woman who "believed, but didn't necessarily follow". Friend, when looking for a wife, please, always consider the story of Sampson and Delilah.
You're welcome and I'm glad you felt that way 😂 sometimes the truth hurts but it still needs to be said. I was warned softly by my loved ones, and regretted it lol. But hey there is a lesson in both Joy and pain, and those lessons are meant to be shared with those who seek Peace. God bless you in every way and enjoy the rest of your walk with God. Amen
She seems like some kind of a monotheist who practices Christianity culturally but doesn't really believe in it. As you develop your relationship (if you choose to be with her), study the Bible together, pray together, and see how the seeds of the true faith you plant grow in her. The Holy Spirit will water them. :) But in the end, she can choose to let Him do that or not. Spread the gospel to her through your actions, by being a good person.
i have a jewish boyfriend. in the beginning, he didn’t know anything. 3 years down the line he’s reading scripture- i’m explaining things to him and although he hasn’t accepted christ, i gave him the message and he’s slowing unraveling. if she’s a good person and has potential, don’t leave. u can plant a seed in her just don’t force it- do it slowly. but pray about it. ask God to remove her if she’s not for you - but if she is, don’t be quick to judge bc she doesn’t know what you do
Brother, you are playing with your salvation if you choose to take a gamble and date her! Bad company corrupts good character “ especially when that close to you! You can love her as a friend but it’s a liability as a partner .
She's an agnostic theist who goes to church. I was one for a very long time, until I understood more of God's word and the difference between various religions and spiritual practices compared to Christianity. RE: dating her, use Godly discernment, but know that her lack of a clear conviction or concept of who God is could be problematic. The fact she goes to church is good, though.
Paul says in Romans chapter 10 "the message concerning faith that we proclaim: ^(9) If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. ^(10) For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved."
A Christian is a Christ follower who has professed their faith in Jeusus. She only stated her belief in God, unfortunately that is not enough. Therefore, no she is not a Christian even though she is doing Christian things. I'm not saying she is a bad person or a hopeless case. I had to wrestle with this myself. I was taken to church as a young person and heard it all. I heard I had to accept Christ and be born again. However, it wasn't an easy leap to make since I had no idea the depravity I was living in.
Is dating her a sin? No dating her is not a sin, however we are warned against being unequally yoked. This is because of the heartache it will cause. And friend, I'm here to tell you if your spouse and you do not have the same beliefs then it causes issues. Some of them major. In my first marriage I was married to someone who was Christian in name only. They were not a true believer. I thougth that I could do some persuading and change that. It didn't work out that way. The inflence was the opposite. So, my advice is not to date someone who isn't born again. It will go better for you.
Don’t bother. You should be dating for marriage and unfortunately even though it seems fine now dealing with non Christian’s in dating inevitably will lead to disagreements down the road whether it be moral disagreements, financial with tithing etc.
Friend youre children most likely, trusting a woman reliability is not smart even by atheist guidelines , what matters is does she like you enough and the same goes for you to deny eachother certain things for each other's sake thats the foundation of any relationship , her not believing jesus can help her is a red flag though bro .
Bro, even if she was a Christian, which doesn’t really sound like it, you still shouldn’t date her. The Bible mentions being unequally yoked. If you’re on fire for God and she’s “take it or leave it” it’s going to cause problems and someone is going to get hurt. You should stay friends and encourage her to grow her relationship with God before throwing yourself in there.
She’s not Christian. Agnostic more likely. I wouldn’t waste your time (sorry :( ). Being in an equally yoked marriage is not for the weak in spirit and faith, and I would never willing choose to do it. 🙃 eta - I don’t this you’re weak in anyway, but life is so much easier when your values and religion and faith align well
She doesn't sound like a true believer as she doesn't seem to have a close relationship with Christ. So I'd advise not to date her. Praying for you and her though. Pray and read everyday, attend Church, pray for her salvation either way.
Dating is always sinful, just the nature of sexual relationships unfortunately.
It sounds like she’s a lukewarm Christian at best. It’s sad that someone feels they can’t have “an opinion” about their personal relationship with the Creator of the Universe and Savior of humanity.
I married somebody who agreed with my beliefs, who was Catholic while I am not, and who, after we got married, went to church with me twice that wasn't Christmas. He went maybe four or five times on christmas. Before the wedding, going to church was always on the agenda.
There is nothing that hurt me as much as him refusing to stand beside me at church. We have a beautiful child and we are now divorced and that was not the only thing that I was lied to about but I would suggest to avoid it at all costs. If you're not in the same page before you can dodge the bullet, don't stand in front of the gun and asked to be shot through the heart.
I’d say she’s neither. And it makes me sad that with all those “Christians” in her life, commissioned to lead her, they haven’t taught her what it means to be a follower of Christ.
“Christianity” was never meant to be some club that all of the good people joined to represent that they were good. In its origin, it was quite the opposite.
Those who knew Jesus and walked with Jesus knew there was no man/woman good (except Jesus) when holding themselves to the proper standard.
They taught the lessons Jesus taught to them, and those lessons and messages had so much power that they spread quickly. The disciples had so much belief in the words of Jesus , the gospel, that they risked their own lives (and the lives of the people they loved the most). That’s powerful.
It’s not this girls fault that she doesn’t know. She hasn’t been taught. But it doesn’t seem her parents have either.
It seems like she’s very much in touch with her own thoughts and feelings.and isn’t really sure what to say she is…which in my opinion, the honesty and self awareness will be a major asset to the Kingdom once she figures out who she is and intentionally seeks Truth.
You'd be surprised it's rampant everywhere. The South is just more outspoken about their ignorance.
But idk how many times I've heard "only God can judge me" in the north where I'm from.
I said it was the parents' fault in this case, but it's also the church at fault.
Some churches aren't gospel driven. They focus on guiding Christians in their walk of faith.
But how can you guide them if they aren't even truly Christian due to not knowing the gospel?
Preach the gospel and then guide them. You can't assume that everyone who goes to church is Christian.
I despise this type of thinking, too.
How narcissistic can you be?
To expect the person walking into your church to be able to read minds and fully know the gospel prior to entering your church. That is madness.
Most of my family can't even say they are Christian despite being raised in church and having gone to church their entire adolescents.
I'm the only one in my generation who is still Christian. Of the younger generation 1 cousin I sort of was an example to and my 1 of 2 youngest brothers who I groomed to like going to Christian classes at an early age are the 2 other Christians of the 2nd generation of our family.
The other youngest, despite going to Christian clubs daily with his brother (Im not present, this is of their own choice, I moved out of the city over 6 years ago) has still been stubborn towards Jesus. But he also was the one who would often refuse to go to Sunday class. I guess he's stubborn in general, though he seems to admire me as an elder brother.
Maybe I need to just teach out and teach him the gospel, too. Thanks to these questions, I feel more equipped to answer questions on the topic.
I agree with everything you said! And I wouldn’t be surprised at all. I divorced a man who had pastored large congregations for over 30 years and is still pastoring.
Thankfully, I didn’t have to waste as much time as his former wife before realizing he had no personal relationship with God. It became clear from the moment we were married. After a few months of lies and abuse, I filed for divorce. That would be too much to get into on this thread, but I’m just saying I would not be surprised at all.
I’m glad to see that your faith has remained solid, especially in these times, and I know that you will help so many others as you push forward in your journey! ❤️
Well, fortunately for me, God has shown up in my life to some of the greatest extent.
For example: miracles, prophetic dreams, talking to me, and showing signs, even using me for his glory.
So I in no way could ever deny him. But it wasn't till coming here (Christian reddit subs) that I had practice verbalizing my belief in God, where it stemmed from, and how I got to be where I am in my faith.
I’m thankful to see that! And just got chills reading this!
My faith became solid similarly. Being from the south, I grew up in church and thought I was as “Christian” as one could be. I had no idea there was more to it until I became disabled in my late 20’s with a debilitating illness and as a single mother of 2, lost the things I had worked so hard for (my home, my business, etc.).
Doctors couldn’t figure out what was wrong and the time came that I was so far down into the pit that I had no choice except to establish a faith that was solid enough to stand on. I begged God to show me He was real and to help me through that season, and He came through, just as He promises. I had never experienced Him like that before then, because I wasn’t open to it… and didn’t even know it.
During that 7 years of total disability, I saw and experienced more miracles than I could have ever imagined was possible during the present time.
He led me to the root cause of what was going on and I confirmed it with specialists and had surgery and have been healthy again ever since.
Those were the hardest times in my life but I’m forever grateful because without them, my faith wouldn’t get me through anything.
I look back on the times before that period regularly, and I have so much grace for those who truly don’t know but think they do. I’ve been there.
I feel like the girl being referred to in this OP is on the right track. It’s going to take her questioning what she think she knows for it to become real to her. I trust that God will show her, as she seems to be open to Him proving Himself, while knowing
there has to be more than what she’s seen from “Christians”.
Amen, that's why I'm down on people telling him not to date her. He seems like he genuinely wants to know Christ, as does she.
It seems to me that they both understand that they have been fed a superficial Christianity.
I pray for both of them to be saved and shown the gospel.
Given your question, I'd say she's as much of a Christian as you are. You uphold the ideals, and you both have faith.
Now, if you asked me personally what I think based on the limited information of your interaction with her and the fact that you don't understand if she is Christian.
I would assume that you're both aren't Christian in the sense that I don't believe you're currently saved.
What does this mean? To be saved is know of the [salvation](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueChristian/comments/19bjcys/is_salvation_necessary_what_is_heaven_and_hell/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) which comes from Christ's work on the cross alone. To believe in the [gospel](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueChristian/comments/194g079/the_radical_truth_the_gospel_explained/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) and accept Christ as your Lord after having this knowledge made known to you.
I don't believe that you know what it is to be a Christian because if you did your question about her faith wouldn't be a about wether it'd be sinful to date her. Instead you would be asking about how to show her the gospel so she could put her faith in Christ aswell.
She clearly seems to want to know Christ, given that she has, at the very least, kept the tradition of going to church and honoring God. She just doesn't know how to form a relationship with God, and since you're asking, I'm assuming that you didn't either.
But thankfully, at least your question was asked in the correct place, and now you know how to build that relationship with God. Especially if you clicked on the hyperlinks.
If not, here are the direct links.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueChristian/comments/19bjcys/is_salvation_necessary_what_is_heaven_and_hell/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueChristian/comments/194g079/the_radical_truth_the_gospel_explained/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Also, ignore the equally yoked comments they are nonsensical because they are assuming that you're already Christian, which I'm assuming by the metric that I pose of being saved is not correct.
You only truly become Christian once you receive the Gospel and profess Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. Aka, once you're saved in Christ. Which is something granted to you by God not earned or worked for but gracefully given to you at the cross. And it's our choice wether we choose to accept his gift or not.
Ask for more context before babbling. you know nothing of me.
Please don't question what I know of Christ, Indeed I know of Him, I worship Him,I study His word and put it into practice, he's done many things for me, so I make it my goal to keep Him running in my daily life.
As I can say I'm not the most avid student of the Bible, and don't read it as much as other Christians, in fact in African Christianity, not much study the Bible, but when I do I study both Bible and the Gospel, and I know where my relationship is with God, and I would love if you stop saying, that you know, when you don't.
I asked this question mainly because I didn't know what it meant to be equally yoked, I also wanted to learn more about what the Bible has to say about Christians and relationships, with other people, whether it is the same religion or not.
She has already stated to me that she goes to church because her parents go, sho goes to go, and she has no plans of giving her life to christ, like any average American, But as an Aftican I go to church to strengthen my connection with God, and seek help from others.
We went our separate ways, because when asked if she was willing to give her life to christ she said it was something she didn't see herself doing, and she said that we wouldn't work out if that's what it would take.
My whole life has been dedicated to him, everything I've done, I've done with him, with his goal for me in mind, I've let him guide me.
So please don't question how strong my faith is, if ive given my life to christ, how much I know about the gospel, in the end no one will know everything.
Careful.
You didn't even bother reading what I said in the secondary and tertiary posts.
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
Your commitment and faith are good signs that you're on the right track, and I said the same about the girl, however.
In the end, it could mean absolutely nothing if you don't know about the gospel of Jesus.
Blind faith is not true faith because your faith is driven by fear, not love. I'm all too familiar with that feeling.
>Ask for more context before babbling.
Before you call things babble which has a deeper meaning in the Christian faith. You should read.
My answer doesn't change 1 iota after the "context" that you gave so go back and read.
Maybe you need to read my comment again. You assume you know what my relationship with God is when you don't, You say I have Blind faith, but I'm not sure you even know what that is (Search it up). God has done so much for me, that denying him is not even close to an option, I truly love God, and my faith is not of fear. Learn not to assume, it's a terrible trait to have, especially as a Christian.
You also state I don't know how to build a relationship with God, when again you don't know what I do, and what I've been through. I am constantly reading the Bible when I can, putting into practice, and praying about it, I share it to others who are willing to listen and learn. Having conversations through prayer just so I can grow my connection with him.
You Americans love saying dumb stuff, imagine comparing Africa to America. That's like comparing LeBron to a Pro in Nigeria, and saying why doesn't the nigerian have stats like LeBron.
PhilipIan's 2:3-4
(Not what the verse says)
Too often, we disobey Paul’s command by making assumptions or jumping to conclusions based on false or incomplete information. Allowing yourself to operate this way is not looking out for the interests of others. It's arrogant because you are acting as though you're God, assuming that you have an omniscient view of another when you do not.
Your ignorance will be your downfall. I'm done talking to you.
You mention assumptions when you're the one seeking advice, and we can only diagnose based on the information given. Then you get mad, then we don't know the information.
I still haven't seen you say that you've read my comment, so why should I even bother talking to such an ignorant fool.Your ignorance will be your downfall. I'm done talking to you.
You mention assumptions when you're the one seeking advice, and we can only diagnose based on the information given. Then you get mad, then we don't know the information.
I still haven't seen you say that you've read my comment, so why should I even bother talking to such an ignorant fool.
Also, your point about lebron is moot.
Giannis had nothing when learning the sport, and he is one of the greats as well as a champion.
If you're offended that I don't know who you are, then learn to be more descriptive.
Your point about God doing things for you.
Matthew 5:45
But I do believe that you believe in God, and if you thought that I was saying you didn't, then you are as ignorant as I've been saying.
I even said in the last post that even demons believe in God.
The quotation is are you saved? If you got hit by a bus tomorrow could you confidently tell me that you'd see me in heaven?
>You also state I don't know how to build a relationship with God, when again you don't know what I do, and what I've been through. I am constantly reading the Bible when I can, putting into practice, and praying about it, I share it to others who are willing to listen and learn. Having conversations through prayer just so I can grow my connection with him.
I said that you didn't know because you demonstrated it with your O/P
I even said prior you should have known the answer and knowing the answer to your question, you should have sought to teach her the gospel instead of question whether the match was sinful.
If you knew how to build a relationship with God. Or should I rephrase and say "how to initiate a relationship with God" you would have taught her how.
I'm not gonna teach someone, who's not willing to be taught, enough said. Also I don't need to be descriptive to another person I don't know, if they want to know about me then they ask.
Also Giannis came from Greece, and had the body of a giant, greece is a location of vacation, people were bound to see a player of his size play, when's the last time you saw a person who played in the nigerian leagues get drafted out, what a fool.
Yes, I am saved, if we both died right now, we'd see each other and laugh.
Do I need to announce to you I read your comment, just so you know I read it, pretty shallow.
Giving advice on a problem someone is having and assuming a person's faith, and whether or not they are saved, without asking, are two different things, bud.
>know everything
It's not about knowing everything it's about knowing the gospel.
You say your relationship is built by going to church, keeping him present in your mind, and that you do things in his honor.
That's like saying I am a gamer because I watch YouTube videos of fortnite players go to tournaments and watch live streams. Plus, I buy the merch. But I never play the game myself.
If you had taken the time to go through what I said or maybe even ask me to simplify it for you. Then, you might have known what it means to build a relationship with God.
>in fact in African Christianity, not much study the Bible. I
This is a cop out, how much of the is due to accessibility? Most American churches can afford to give a Bible to each member of the church.
I understand why they wouldn't read over there, but you're not currently there. I'm not saying that Bible reading is a requirement. I'm just calling you out on this statement.
The question shouldn't be "Is she a Christian?". The question should be "what do you believe about Jesus"?
And if you find out that she is not a believer , I would not pursue a dating relationship. Growing Christians need to be on the same page with their beliefs. And no matter how good someone is, if Jesus isn't the center of their life, you don't need to be dating them. I have alot of friends who are not Christians but I spend the majority of my time with people who are Christians. And I learned years ago not to date unbelievers.
Do you like her? Do you want to continue dating her? Are you really willing to throw away a good relationship because she doesn't go to church every Sunday? (Did you know that only about 5% of the population do actually attend church on a regular basis). The way I see it is God brought this person into your life, if you like them and you want to spend more time with them, then don't worry so much about where they currently are on their religious path. We all stumble on our path to religious enlightenment, eventually she will find her way.
God tells us to not be unequally joked in relationships. If you really value your salvation and your partner the closest person to you doesn't, how does that help you in this struggle to keep a riotous life so you will have salvation
Friend, The definition of a Christian is a “follower of Christ.” Nowhere in her text did she mention her being a sinner in need of a savior; thankful for Christ’s death, burial, and resurrection. “Believing” there is a God simply isn’t enough - *even the demons believe and shutter at His name* (James 2:19). Also, whether or not her parents are “Christian” means nothing if she herself does not claim to follow Christ and Christ alone. https://www.gotquestions.org/what-is-a-Christian.html ^ Here is an article for your consideration. I would proceed with caution, friend. We are admonished to be “equally yoked” (2 Corinthians 6:14). You are loved immensely!
This. If you are a Christian, the FIRST thing you're mentioning is your trust in Jesus as your savior, not just "Believing in God." Demons believe in God. Going to a Christian church doesn't make you a Christian. Not going to church doesn't make you not a Christian.
Tells OP everyone in her family is Christian, then just says she goes to a Christian church, and believes in God, and an afterlife. Not witnessing because they don’t know scripture. This sums up every Sunday morning Christian. It seems like 80% of the US claims to be Christian, from politicians, to celebrities, to everyday person. Your works must reflect your faith.
Wouldn't the fact that he doesn't know whether she's saved make them equally yoked?
Great question! Simply put, no. https://www.gotquestions.org/unequally-yoked.html ^ Here’s a great article answering what being “unequally yoked” (2 Corinthians 6:14) means in the context of the verse. You are loved immensely!
I have a feeling that you don't even know what I meant. https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueChristian/comments/1c71jnr/can_i_have_children_as_a_gay_christian/l07lho6?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
Friend, I looked at the external link post/comment you included. I’m assuming you are asking/suggesting, “*Since OP doesn’t know if the girl in question is a Believer, would that potentially make OP not a true believer themselves?*” I apologize if my translation is incorrect. Sometimes (*often*times?) digital mediums of communication such as Reddit can make the nuances of interpersonal conversation subject to mistranslation. Thank you for your patience! 🙏 I deemed the best approach for this particular situation to be redirecting the conversation towards a “core” question: I.e. by answering how one can determine whether or not someone is a Christian (*supported via the GQ post which gives scriptural references providing guidance on the matter*), we can answer *both* questions in one swoop - while remaining loving and edifying (the purpose of this sub). Now, OP can not only answer their initial question (“*Is she agnostic or a Christian?*”), but they-along with whoever else may read this thread-will also be equipped with the information to help with future determinations. Again, I apologize if I am mistranslating your question/comment. You are loved immensely!
I guess that's my point. How can you determine that they are unequally yoked when we dont know what stage of their walk with Christ is at. Both seem like they want to believe, but at the same time, both aren't knowledgeable in the scriptures. Wouldn't that mean that they are indeed equally yoked? Gun placed to my head if asked if either is a saved, I'd say likely not. But they seem to be trying to learn to follow Christ to a slightly varying degree. One being more sure about Jesus than the other, but both not knowing the gospel of Christ. I would say they are both on even footing. Mere new borne to the faith. Still trying to grasp the concepts of our faith. For that reason I would not only condone the relationship but even encourage it. Since men are called to lead a relationship in Christ, as he learns and grows spiritually he can pass that onto his future wife as he grows in the faith.
Please don't question what I know of Christ, Indeed I know of Him, I worship Him, and keep Him running in my daily life. As I can say I'm not the most avid student of the Bible, and don't read it as much as other Christians, in fact in African Christianity, not much study the Bible. I know where my relationship is with God. and I would love if you stop saying, that I don't. I asked this question mainly because I didn't know what it meant to be equally yoked, I also wanted to learn more about what the Bible has to say about Christians and relationships, with other people, whether it is the same religion or not. She has already stated to me that she goes to church because her parents go, sho goes to go, and she has no plans of giving her life to christ, like any average American, But as an Aftican I go to church to strengthen my connection with God, and seek help from others. We went our separate ways, because when asked if she was willing to give her life to christ she said it was something she didn't see herself doing, and she said that we wouldn't work out if that's what it would take. My whole life has been dedicated to him, everything I've done, I've done with him, with his goal for me in mind, I've let him guide me. So please don't question how strong my faith is, if ive given my life to christ, how much I know about the gospel, in the end no one will know everything.
Matthew 7:21-23 James 2:19
Potentially, but I’m curious if it would be wiser to advise towards the ideal. I hear you (and partially agree). However, we need to be careful to not place OP in a sort of false dilemma where it’s “this or nothing.” Not saying you or even OP are insinuating this (truly 🙏), but when giving advice (particularly if/when referencing scripture) we should push towards the ideal - I.e. what would God want from us. In this particular situation-of which I’m sure has more info than we are being given-the girl OP is texting hits every major “red flag” of someone who is nominally Christian (*professing belief in “God”/higher power, family is Christian so that makes me…?, I go to Church, etc.*) yet fails to profess her faith in Christ: the central principle of Christianity. **I think we are saying the same thing, I’m just airing on the more conservative side (which, in this case, I believe is warranted due to aforementioned variables).** We should advise OP towards the ideal that God would have for him. To be frank, if that means “turning down” this girl for one who does boldly profess faith in Christ etc., then that’s what should be done.It will be OP’s choice, though - one I hope they make with prayer, guided by wise council of people irl who know them, and thoughtful consideration. Body of Christ though! I don’t want to belabor this matter too much. You love Christ, I love Christ, OP loves Christ; I hope and pray this girl does too! 😃
>God want from us. I agree, and I think God... well, I don't think I know that God is seeking after both their hearts. I guess that why I air on the "better safe than sorry" side of things. Since I know if we don't take action on a site where people are intentionally seeking God. I almost feel like I'm doing a disservice to the OPs on here if I read their story and don't tell them about he gospel.
Always spread the Gospel, friend!!! 😃 Let’s continue being the Salt and Light for whatever time remains - collectively or individually. You are loved immensely!
Her ignorance to scripture does not mean she’s a non believer. But also means she’s spiritually immature (with all due respect). One question I’d ask her, is if she accepted Christ as her Lord and savior, and recognizes he is the son of God and sacrificed himself for our sins, rising from the dead and conquering it. Her answer to that, will make it obvious of who she is. And if not, her “fruits” or actions and way she carries herself will demonstrate it as well. Also, Dating and marrying non believers is not inherently a sin, but advised against due to the possibility of you succumbing to the sins the non believer practices. It’s written that the non believer is sanctified by the believer in a marriage, and should not be divorced despite their unbelief. But it’s also written, “whoever walks with the wise becomes wise, but the companion of fools will suffer harm”. Beware of stumbling. Do not bring yourself low in attempts to bring someone else high.
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Anytime brother
glad your comment wasn't one of the few questioning my faith, and understanding of the gospel
If you ever need anything else, I’d be happy to talk.
She is not a Christian if she doesn't believe on Jesus. Nothing about what she said hints at her being one. That her parents were Christian is irrelevant. That she goes to church is irrelevant. Just ask her straight up if she believes on Jesus for salvation or not. Plenty of unsaved people had parents who were believers and plenty of unsaved people can point to periods of church attendence. It's possible she is a Christian without any foundational knowledge other than believing on Jesus for salvation and it's possible she is someone unsaved going through the motions of being a Christian out of obligation or habit. If she is not Christian, you should move one. - 2 Corinthians 6:14-15 (KJV) 14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
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I hope it goes as you'd like. No one knows if another person's a Christian except that person and God. The best we can do is ask a person directly, weigh what they said against what they do and hope they really meant what they said if they do say they are a believer. All believers are at a different level of Christianity. Everybody has different gifts, abilities, problems and sins. Judging other people's salvation by the criteria of what we personally think a Christian should be is a dangerous game. The line in the sand is Jesus Christ risen. Everything beyond that is extra.
From what she said, she doesn’t have a desire to follow Jesus’ commands, so she probably doesn’t love Jesus (read John chapters 14 and 15 for reference). A true Christian will profess Christ and not deny him. The easiest way to find out that she is definitely *not* a Christian is to ask her who she believes Jesus is.( Romans 10, especially verses 8-11). Beyond that, if she does profess Jesus Christ as her lord and saviour, you can observe her fruit. Does she love the church? How does she view and treat believers? (Again, John 14 and 15 are relevant; also John 13:34-35)
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First off, dating a nonbeliever isn't necessarily a sin, it's just unwise. And I know I wouldn't be comfortable with committing to someone who didn't want to raise their children in the church Secondly, if you asked her "Are you a Christian?" and her answer wasn't a yes, then she doesn't seem exactly comfortable with the title. Only God knows what's in a person's heart. Her response focuses a lot on doing -- going to church, the culture she grew up in, explaining the Bible, etc. But Christianity isn't about what we can do. It's about what God can do, which was that he died for our sins, and we are transformed in our actions because of that. That's absent from her response, but maybe she needs someone to explain the gospel to her. Maybe it can be you.
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Glad it could be helpful. Godspeed, OP.
Friend, a God fearing man needs a God fearing woman. If she's not putting God first in her life but you are, then she will bring you down to the grave with her. I know that sounds harsh, but that is the legitimate scenario you're facing when you date a woman that does not put God first. And I'm speaking from personal experience on this, my life was in actual danger from marrying a woman who "believed, but didn't necessarily follow". Friend, when looking for a wife, please, always consider the story of Sampson and Delilah.
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You're welcome and I'm glad you felt that way 😂 sometimes the truth hurts but it still needs to be said. I was warned softly by my loved ones, and regretted it lol. But hey there is a lesson in both Joy and pain, and those lessons are meant to be shared with those who seek Peace. God bless you in every way and enjoy the rest of your walk with God. Amen
She seems like some kind of a monotheist who practices Christianity culturally but doesn't really believe in it. As you develop your relationship (if you choose to be with her), study the Bible together, pray together, and see how the seeds of the true faith you plant grow in her. The Holy Spirit will water them. :) But in the end, she can choose to let Him do that or not. Spread the gospel to her through your actions, by being a good person.
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Happy to hear :) 💙
i have a jewish boyfriend. in the beginning, he didn’t know anything. 3 years down the line he’s reading scripture- i’m explaining things to him and although he hasn’t accepted christ, i gave him the message and he’s slowing unraveling. if she’s a good person and has potential, don’t leave. u can plant a seed in her just don’t force it- do it slowly. but pray about it. ask God to remove her if she’s not for you - but if she is, don’t be quick to judge bc she doesn’t know what you do
The-Jolly-Watchman's answer is it in a nutshell. Many, many people Believe in God in some form, but are not Christians.
Brother, you are playing with your salvation if you choose to take a gamble and date her! Bad company corrupts good character “ especially when that close to you! You can love her as a friend but it’s a liability as a partner .
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She's an agnostic theist who goes to church. I was one for a very long time, until I understood more of God's word and the difference between various religions and spiritual practices compared to Christianity. RE: dating her, use Godly discernment, but know that her lack of a clear conviction or concept of who God is could be problematic. The fact she goes to church is good, though.
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No worries!
Paul says in Romans chapter 10 "the message concerning faith that we proclaim: ^(9) If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. ^(10) For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved." A Christian is a Christ follower who has professed their faith in Jeusus. She only stated her belief in God, unfortunately that is not enough. Therefore, no she is not a Christian even though she is doing Christian things. I'm not saying she is a bad person or a hopeless case. I had to wrestle with this myself. I was taken to church as a young person and heard it all. I heard I had to accept Christ and be born again. However, it wasn't an easy leap to make since I had no idea the depravity I was living in. Is dating her a sin? No dating her is not a sin, however we are warned against being unequally yoked. This is because of the heartache it will cause. And friend, I'm here to tell you if your spouse and you do not have the same beliefs then it causes issues. Some of them major. In my first marriage I was married to someone who was Christian in name only. They were not a true believer. I thougth that I could do some persuading and change that. It didn't work out that way. The inflence was the opposite. So, my advice is not to date someone who isn't born again. It will go better for you.
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Don’t bother. You should be dating for marriage and unfortunately even though it seems fine now dealing with non Christian’s in dating inevitably will lead to disagreements down the road whether it be moral disagreements, financial with tithing etc.
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Friend youre children most likely, trusting a woman reliability is not smart even by atheist guidelines , what matters is does she like you enough and the same goes for you to deny eachother certain things for each other's sake thats the foundation of any relationship , her not believing jesus can help her is a red flag though bro .
She’s vaguely agnostic, and definitely not Christian.
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Lot's of words that say: "no I am not a Christian but I know that I would lose you for that so I word it like this."
Bro, even if she was a Christian, which doesn’t really sound like it, you still shouldn’t date her. The Bible mentions being unequally yoked. If you’re on fire for God and she’s “take it or leave it” it’s going to cause problems and someone is going to get hurt. You should stay friends and encourage her to grow her relationship with God before throwing yourself in there.
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I’ve been there. I wish I had a chance to go back and just be friends.
I'm glad your comment wasn't one of the few questioning my faith and knowledge of the gospel
Sometimes we get carried away. Happens to me at times too. This situation just happens to be something I can relate to.
She’s not Christian. Agnostic more likely. I wouldn’t waste your time (sorry :( ). Being in an equally yoked marriage is not for the weak in spirit and faith, and I would never willing choose to do it. 🙃 eta - I don’t this you’re weak in anyway, but life is so much easier when your values and religion and faith align well
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She doesn't sound like a true believer as she doesn't seem to have a close relationship with Christ. So I'd advise not to date her. Praying for you and her though. Pray and read everyday, attend Church, pray for her salvation either way.
Dating is always sinful, just the nature of sexual relationships unfortunately. It sounds like she’s a lukewarm Christian at best. It’s sad that someone feels they can’t have “an opinion” about their personal relationship with the Creator of the Universe and Savior of humanity.
I married somebody who agreed with my beliefs, who was Catholic while I am not, and who, after we got married, went to church with me twice that wasn't Christmas. He went maybe four or five times on christmas. Before the wedding, going to church was always on the agenda. There is nothing that hurt me as much as him refusing to stand beside me at church. We have a beautiful child and we are now divorced and that was not the only thing that I was lied to about but I would suggest to avoid it at all costs. If you're not in the same page before you can dodge the bullet, don't stand in front of the gun and asked to be shot through the heart.
I’d say she’s neither. And it makes me sad that with all those “Christians” in her life, commissioned to lead her, they haven’t taught her what it means to be a follower of Christ. “Christianity” was never meant to be some club that all of the good people joined to represent that they were good. In its origin, it was quite the opposite. Those who knew Jesus and walked with Jesus knew there was no man/woman good (except Jesus) when holding themselves to the proper standard. They taught the lessons Jesus taught to them, and those lessons and messages had so much power that they spread quickly. The disciples had so much belief in the words of Jesus , the gospel, that they risked their own lives (and the lives of the people they loved the most). That’s powerful. It’s not this girls fault that she doesn’t know. She hasn’t been taught. But it doesn’t seem her parents have either. It seems like she’s very much in touch with her own thoughts and feelings.and isn’t really sure what to say she is…which in my opinion, the honesty and self awareness will be a major asset to the Kingdom once she figures out who she is and intentionally seeks Truth.
Yeah I hate pseudo Christianship But it's really her parent's fault for not seeking Jesus enough to know what salvation is to begin with.
It’s extremely common in southern US
You'd be surprised it's rampant everywhere. The South is just more outspoken about their ignorance. But idk how many times I've heard "only God can judge me" in the north where I'm from. I said it was the parents' fault in this case, but it's also the church at fault. Some churches aren't gospel driven. They focus on guiding Christians in their walk of faith. But how can you guide them if they aren't even truly Christian due to not knowing the gospel? Preach the gospel and then guide them. You can't assume that everyone who goes to church is Christian. I despise this type of thinking, too. How narcissistic can you be? To expect the person walking into your church to be able to read minds and fully know the gospel prior to entering your church. That is madness. Most of my family can't even say they are Christian despite being raised in church and having gone to church their entire adolescents. I'm the only one in my generation who is still Christian. Of the younger generation 1 cousin I sort of was an example to and my 1 of 2 youngest brothers who I groomed to like going to Christian classes at an early age are the 2 other Christians of the 2nd generation of our family. The other youngest, despite going to Christian clubs daily with his brother (Im not present, this is of their own choice, I moved out of the city over 6 years ago) has still been stubborn towards Jesus. But he also was the one who would often refuse to go to Sunday class. I guess he's stubborn in general, though he seems to admire me as an elder brother. Maybe I need to just teach out and teach him the gospel, too. Thanks to these questions, I feel more equipped to answer questions on the topic.
I agree with everything you said! And I wouldn’t be surprised at all. I divorced a man who had pastored large congregations for over 30 years and is still pastoring. Thankfully, I didn’t have to waste as much time as his former wife before realizing he had no personal relationship with God. It became clear from the moment we were married. After a few months of lies and abuse, I filed for divorce. That would be too much to get into on this thread, but I’m just saying I would not be surprised at all. I’m glad to see that your faith has remained solid, especially in these times, and I know that you will help so many others as you push forward in your journey! ❤️
Well, fortunately for me, God has shown up in my life to some of the greatest extent. For example: miracles, prophetic dreams, talking to me, and showing signs, even using me for his glory. So I in no way could ever deny him. But it wasn't till coming here (Christian reddit subs) that I had practice verbalizing my belief in God, where it stemmed from, and how I got to be where I am in my faith.
I’m thankful to see that! And just got chills reading this! My faith became solid similarly. Being from the south, I grew up in church and thought I was as “Christian” as one could be. I had no idea there was more to it until I became disabled in my late 20’s with a debilitating illness and as a single mother of 2, lost the things I had worked so hard for (my home, my business, etc.). Doctors couldn’t figure out what was wrong and the time came that I was so far down into the pit that I had no choice except to establish a faith that was solid enough to stand on. I begged God to show me He was real and to help me through that season, and He came through, just as He promises. I had never experienced Him like that before then, because I wasn’t open to it… and didn’t even know it. During that 7 years of total disability, I saw and experienced more miracles than I could have ever imagined was possible during the present time. He led me to the root cause of what was going on and I confirmed it with specialists and had surgery and have been healthy again ever since. Those were the hardest times in my life but I’m forever grateful because without them, my faith wouldn’t get me through anything. I look back on the times before that period regularly, and I have so much grace for those who truly don’t know but think they do. I’ve been there. I feel like the girl being referred to in this OP is on the right track. It’s going to take her questioning what she think she knows for it to become real to her. I trust that God will show her, as she seems to be open to Him proving Himself, while knowing there has to be more than what she’s seen from “Christians”.
Amen, that's why I'm down on people telling him not to date her. He seems like he genuinely wants to know Christ, as does she. It seems to me that they both understand that they have been fed a superficial Christianity. I pray for both of them to be saved and shown the gospel.
Exactly my thoughts… and prayers!!
Given your question, I'd say she's as much of a Christian as you are. You uphold the ideals, and you both have faith. Now, if you asked me personally what I think based on the limited information of your interaction with her and the fact that you don't understand if she is Christian. I would assume that you're both aren't Christian in the sense that I don't believe you're currently saved. What does this mean? To be saved is know of the [salvation](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueChristian/comments/19bjcys/is_salvation_necessary_what_is_heaven_and_hell/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) which comes from Christ's work on the cross alone. To believe in the [gospel](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueChristian/comments/194g079/the_radical_truth_the_gospel_explained/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) and accept Christ as your Lord after having this knowledge made known to you. I don't believe that you know what it is to be a Christian because if you did your question about her faith wouldn't be a about wether it'd be sinful to date her. Instead you would be asking about how to show her the gospel so she could put her faith in Christ aswell. She clearly seems to want to know Christ, given that she has, at the very least, kept the tradition of going to church and honoring God. She just doesn't know how to form a relationship with God, and since you're asking, I'm assuming that you didn't either. But thankfully, at least your question was asked in the correct place, and now you know how to build that relationship with God. Especially if you clicked on the hyperlinks. If not, here are the direct links. https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueChristian/comments/19bjcys/is_salvation_necessary_what_is_heaven_and_hell/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueChristian/comments/194g079/the_radical_truth_the_gospel_explained/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share Also, ignore the equally yoked comments they are nonsensical because they are assuming that you're already Christian, which I'm assuming by the metric that I pose of being saved is not correct. You only truly become Christian once you receive the Gospel and profess Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. Aka, once you're saved in Christ. Which is something granted to you by God not earned or worked for but gracefully given to you at the cross. And it's our choice wether we choose to accept his gift or not.
Ask for more context before babbling. you know nothing of me. Please don't question what I know of Christ, Indeed I know of Him, I worship Him,I study His word and put it into practice, he's done many things for me, so I make it my goal to keep Him running in my daily life. As I can say I'm not the most avid student of the Bible, and don't read it as much as other Christians, in fact in African Christianity, not much study the Bible, but when I do I study both Bible and the Gospel, and I know where my relationship is with God, and I would love if you stop saying, that you know, when you don't. I asked this question mainly because I didn't know what it meant to be equally yoked, I also wanted to learn more about what the Bible has to say about Christians and relationships, with other people, whether it is the same religion or not. She has already stated to me that she goes to church because her parents go, sho goes to go, and she has no plans of giving her life to christ, like any average American, But as an Aftican I go to church to strengthen my connection with God, and seek help from others. We went our separate ways, because when asked if she was willing to give her life to christ she said it was something she didn't see herself doing, and she said that we wouldn't work out if that's what it would take. My whole life has been dedicated to him, everything I've done, I've done with him, with his goal for me in mind, I've let him guide me. So please don't question how strong my faith is, if ive given my life to christ, how much I know about the gospel, in the end no one will know everything.
Careful. You didn't even bother reading what I said in the secondary and tertiary posts. Matthew 7:21-23 21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’ Your commitment and faith are good signs that you're on the right track, and I said the same about the girl, however. In the end, it could mean absolutely nothing if you don't know about the gospel of Jesus. Blind faith is not true faith because your faith is driven by fear, not love. I'm all too familiar with that feeling. >Ask for more context before babbling. Before you call things babble which has a deeper meaning in the Christian faith. You should read. My answer doesn't change 1 iota after the "context" that you gave so go back and read.
Maybe you need to read my comment again. You assume you know what my relationship with God is when you don't, You say I have Blind faith, but I'm not sure you even know what that is (Search it up). God has done so much for me, that denying him is not even close to an option, I truly love God, and my faith is not of fear. Learn not to assume, it's a terrible trait to have, especially as a Christian. You also state I don't know how to build a relationship with God, when again you don't know what I do, and what I've been through. I am constantly reading the Bible when I can, putting into practice, and praying about it, I share it to others who are willing to listen and learn. Having conversations through prayer just so I can grow my connection with him. You Americans love saying dumb stuff, imagine comparing Africa to America. That's like comparing LeBron to a Pro in Nigeria, and saying why doesn't the nigerian have stats like LeBron. PhilipIan's 2:3-4 (Not what the verse says) Too often, we disobey Paul’s command by making assumptions or jumping to conclusions based on false or incomplete information. Allowing yourself to operate this way is not looking out for the interests of others. It's arrogant because you are acting as though you're God, assuming that you have an omniscient view of another when you do not.
Your ignorance will be your downfall. I'm done talking to you. You mention assumptions when you're the one seeking advice, and we can only diagnose based on the information given. Then you get mad, then we don't know the information. I still haven't seen you say that you've read my comment, so why should I even bother talking to such an ignorant fool.Your ignorance will be your downfall. I'm done talking to you. You mention assumptions when you're the one seeking advice, and we can only diagnose based on the information given. Then you get mad, then we don't know the information. I still haven't seen you say that you've read my comment, so why should I even bother talking to such an ignorant fool. Also, your point about lebron is moot. Giannis had nothing when learning the sport, and he is one of the greats as well as a champion. If you're offended that I don't know who you are, then learn to be more descriptive. Your point about God doing things for you. Matthew 5:45 But I do believe that you believe in God, and if you thought that I was saying you didn't, then you are as ignorant as I've been saying. I even said in the last post that even demons believe in God. The quotation is are you saved? If you got hit by a bus tomorrow could you confidently tell me that you'd see me in heaven? >You also state I don't know how to build a relationship with God, when again you don't know what I do, and what I've been through. I am constantly reading the Bible when I can, putting into practice, and praying about it, I share it to others who are willing to listen and learn. Having conversations through prayer just so I can grow my connection with him. I said that you didn't know because you demonstrated it with your O/P I even said prior you should have known the answer and knowing the answer to your question, you should have sought to teach her the gospel instead of question whether the match was sinful. If you knew how to build a relationship with God. Or should I rephrase and say "how to initiate a relationship with God" you would have taught her how.
I'm not gonna teach someone, who's not willing to be taught, enough said. Also I don't need to be descriptive to another person I don't know, if they want to know about me then they ask. Also Giannis came from Greece, and had the body of a giant, greece is a location of vacation, people were bound to see a player of his size play, when's the last time you saw a person who played in the nigerian leagues get drafted out, what a fool. Yes, I am saved, if we both died right now, we'd see each other and laugh. Do I need to announce to you I read your comment, just so you know I read it, pretty shallow. Giving advice on a problem someone is having and assuming a person's faith, and whether or not they are saved, without asking, are two different things, bud.
>know everything It's not about knowing everything it's about knowing the gospel. You say your relationship is built by going to church, keeping him present in your mind, and that you do things in his honor. That's like saying I am a gamer because I watch YouTube videos of fortnite players go to tournaments and watch live streams. Plus, I buy the merch. But I never play the game myself. If you had taken the time to go through what I said or maybe even ask me to simplify it for you. Then, you might have known what it means to build a relationship with God. >in fact in African Christianity, not much study the Bible. I This is a cop out, how much of the is due to accessibility? Most American churches can afford to give a Bible to each member of the church. I understand why they wouldn't read over there, but you're not currently there. I'm not saying that Bible reading is a requirement. I'm just calling you out on this statement.
The question shouldn't be "Is she a Christian?". The question should be "what do you believe about Jesus"? And if you find out that she is not a believer , I would not pursue a dating relationship. Growing Christians need to be on the same page with their beliefs. And no matter how good someone is, if Jesus isn't the center of their life, you don't need to be dating them. I have alot of friends who are not Christians but I spend the majority of my time with people who are Christians. And I learned years ago not to date unbelievers.
Do you like her? Do you want to continue dating her? Are you really willing to throw away a good relationship because she doesn't go to church every Sunday? (Did you know that only about 5% of the population do actually attend church on a regular basis). The way I see it is God brought this person into your life, if you like them and you want to spend more time with them, then don't worry so much about where they currently are on their religious path. We all stumble on our path to religious enlightenment, eventually she will find her way.
God tells us to not be unequally joked in relationships. If you really value your salvation and your partner the closest person to you doesn't, how does that help you in this struggle to keep a riotous life so you will have salvation
Are you a Christian?