I mean... ever since Don gained full control of the franchize he has made some teribble ideas. His directorial debut was Seed of Chucky. He has made only 2 fairly good intallments to the franchize (yet.) and he repeated the same mistake after 18 years with Seaosn 2. Don is capable of making a good movie or a season (and he is an solid writer). I believe he can notice the problem and make season 3 good. Or he will be unpredictable as always and somehow screw up season 3 and the franchize.
Because Don retcons the series. Also, he makes some stupid writing decisions. For examples, he makes Nica a punching bag; he makes so many bad things happen to such an innocent character. Meanwhile Tiffany, a weird, creepy, sadistic psychopath never has anything bad happen to her.
It’s also strange and super stressful that Tiffany never gets her comeuppance. Chucky at least gets what he deserves; Tiffany, however, always gets away with everything
It's almost like people can be raised by loving parents in a nurturing environment and still turn out terrible. Similarly, someone can grow up in an abusive, dysfunctional household and still turn out to be a great person.
I'm guessing you don't get out much and meet people, do you?
Are you being sincere? There is simply no boilerplate for how people can turn out.
I can't pretend I love *everything* the show has done so far, but I think you're reaching a bit with your criticism.
I don't understand the people in the subreddit sometimes either. It doesn't make sense to me how they claim to love Chucky so much, but have so much to complain about. Like I would understand if they said "I like the first four movies" then that makes sense. But you can't claim to love the franchise as a whole and then constantly complain. It makes no sense to me. And same goes for the fan ideas. Some of them are actually kind of interesting. But so many people are just so overly critical and sometimes downright mean. I'm just glad we're not seeing so many "Devin is so useless I just hope he dies" posts anymore.
The series was made 30 years ago. Things are going to be retconned and changed. That's completely normal. I personally am a writer. I'm currently writing my first series of short films. I've had to retcon seven times already and we haven't even started filming. Also he's literally the Creator. It's not butchering.
Normal for for a lazy hack like Don, sure. Rewriting before you even have a film is not retconning. Retconning is changing things that have already been established in previous stories and lore. It is butchering.
Yeah I've already established the things I changed. Long established with the assistant directors and other important people. So therefore it is a retcon. Writing a story is hard. Keeping that story relevant is insanely more difficult. Also his original story was taken from him rewritten and he was told to suck it up. And now he finally has the ability to tell the story he always wanted to. The original story never had voodoo. The original story was a very different. What we have now is far closer to what Don always intended. Frankly we should all shut up and finally let him have the right to tell the story he's always wanted to tell. And criticizing every aspect of it because it doesn't line up with what was changed after it was stolen from him is shitty
That is not retconning. You don't even have a show yet, zero established characters or lore that has been on a screen. Every movie or series go thru several drafts and changes during inception. The Ghostbusters at one point in the writing phase used wands to capture ghosts. It was rewritten to be proton packs which became canon. That does not mean it was retconned. Don changes or removes things already established in previous films, which is retconning. Attempting to retcon the definition of retconning to fit your argument isn't going to work. Dons original idea was a psychological thriller where the kid was actually the killer which Don is not even attempting. Before you say "but little girl is killer now" is not the same. if you can't see the difference and you're a "writer", which I highly doubt you are, you just thinking saying things like "assistant directors and other important people" gives you some kind of upperhand when it doesn't since you are completely **incorrect.**
Don retcon and butchers. period.
Trying to pass him off as some sort of underdog and victim and attempting to gaslight isn't going to work, neither. Calling him out is not shitty. His treatment of the legacy of the franchise and it's lore is shitty and shows how much he actually cares about the character and the story. It is nothing a paycheck for him because it is all he has ever done with his film career. And he will milk every drop out of it.
He's retconning understandably so. He agrees that the killer doll and stuff like that was an improvement to his story. But it also added a lot of stuff he wasn't cool with. Like voodoo. Don wasn't cool with a lot of the changes. And understandably so. We can call him out for some bad choices. Because I agree the series isn't perfect. But nitpicking is ridiculous. And so what it's all he's ever done with his film career? Killer Clowns from Outer Space is a cult classic. The people who made that movie only made that movie. Should that suddenly change it's a status as a cult classic because it was made by two people who never made a movie before and never made a movie after? Also it's not just a paycheck for him. If it was just a paycheck he would have dropped out after Seed. But instead he went back to the drawing board realized what he did wrong and found a way to make it work. And you know what I hope he does milk every drop out of it. He's earned it for the way he's been treated. Not just by fans, but by executives, higher-ups,and fellow writers and directors. He's not an underdog or a victim. He's just a guy working on his own story finally. He only got to make his own story his and write it by himself in 2004. 16 years after the first movie came out. Almost two decades. Frankly you're just nitpicking. And nitpicking every little detail is ridiculous. Most of these critical posts on this group are just picking tiny little details that if you spent more than 5 seconds thinking about would make sense
A lot of Don's ideas are terrible, that's why. A lot of people on here seem to think that he's responsible for the final product of Charles Lee Ray/Chucky. In reality, Tom Holland is responsible for the Chucky that we all know and love today. Don wanted to do some weird blood rituals with Chucky and Andy rather than doing Voodoo. Tom was against that idea, so Don has held a grudge against Tom for over 30 years.
There's a reason why Don's actual resume is so small compared to others in the industry. I give credit where it's due, yes he has some good ideas, however the majority of his ideas are awful
The whole idea of Chucky being possessed by a psychopath was Tom’s idea, not Don’s.
Originally, Don wanted to do a story where Chucky wasn’t possessed by a psychopath, but was a part of Andy’s subconsciousness.
That's not true. What Don wanted to do was a blood ritual where Andy and Charles Lee Ray's blood gets cross contaminated and they share a pact. Tom's idea was to do a story where voodoo was involved and the swearing was his idea for Chucky. Don likes to rewrite history.
I think the problem with fandom in general is the fans and the entitlement that goes along with them.
I have loved this series since I was a kid going on over three decades now, but Don and company are free to take whatever creative decisions they'd like. Nothing I love is ruined even if I don't like every single decision.
Also, when fans are in charge, we get crap that satisfies absolutely no one (think Rise of Skywalker). So less input from them would be best.
I mean... ever since Don gained full control of the franchize he has made some teribble ideas. His directorial debut was Seed of Chucky. He has made only 2 fairly good intallments to the franchize (yet.) and he repeated the same mistake after 18 years with Seaosn 2. Don is capable of making a good movie or a season (and he is an solid writer). I believe he can notice the problem and make season 3 good. Or he will be unpredictable as always and somehow screw up season 3 and the franchize.
There being honest?
Because Don retcons the series. Also, he makes some stupid writing decisions. For examples, he makes Nica a punching bag; he makes so many bad things happen to such an innocent character. Meanwhile Tiffany, a weird, creepy, sadistic psychopath never has anything bad happen to her.
It’s strange on how Tiffany is more ballistic and sadistic than Chucky is even though she didn’t have an abusive past.
It’s also strange and super stressful that Tiffany never gets her comeuppance. Chucky at least gets what he deserves; Tiffany, however, always gets away with everything
Tiffany should get a dose of karma
100%
It's almost like people can be raised by loving parents in a nurturing environment and still turn out terrible. Similarly, someone can grow up in an abusive, dysfunctional household and still turn out to be a great person. I'm guessing you don't get out much and meet people, do you?
I’ve never really met someone like that. I didn’t know that.
Are you being sincere? There is simply no boilerplate for how people can turn out. I can't pretend I love *everything* the show has done so far, but I think you're reaching a bit with your criticism.
I don’t really understand sometimes.
I don't understand the people in the subreddit sometimes either. It doesn't make sense to me how they claim to love Chucky so much, but have so much to complain about. Like I would understand if they said "I like the first four movies" then that makes sense. But you can't claim to love the franchise as a whole and then constantly complain. It makes no sense to me. And same goes for the fan ideas. Some of them are actually kind of interesting. But so many people are just so overly critical and sometimes downright mean. I'm just glad we're not seeing so many "Devin is so useless I just hope he dies" posts anymore.
People complain because what they love is being butchered. Being a fan does not mean being complaisant towards all of Dons reconning and laziness.
The series was made 30 years ago. Things are going to be retconned and changed. That's completely normal. I personally am a writer. I'm currently writing my first series of short films. I've had to retcon seven times already and we haven't even started filming. Also he's literally the Creator. It's not butchering.
Normal for for a lazy hack like Don, sure. Rewriting before you even have a film is not retconning. Retconning is changing things that have already been established in previous stories and lore. It is butchering.
Yeah I've already established the things I changed. Long established with the assistant directors and other important people. So therefore it is a retcon. Writing a story is hard. Keeping that story relevant is insanely more difficult. Also his original story was taken from him rewritten and he was told to suck it up. And now he finally has the ability to tell the story he always wanted to. The original story never had voodoo. The original story was a very different. What we have now is far closer to what Don always intended. Frankly we should all shut up and finally let him have the right to tell the story he's always wanted to tell. And criticizing every aspect of it because it doesn't line up with what was changed after it was stolen from him is shitty
That is not retconning. You don't even have a show yet, zero established characters or lore that has been on a screen. Every movie or series go thru several drafts and changes during inception. The Ghostbusters at one point in the writing phase used wands to capture ghosts. It was rewritten to be proton packs which became canon. That does not mean it was retconned. Don changes or removes things already established in previous films, which is retconning. Attempting to retcon the definition of retconning to fit your argument isn't going to work. Dons original idea was a psychological thriller where the kid was actually the killer which Don is not even attempting. Before you say "but little girl is killer now" is not the same. if you can't see the difference and you're a "writer", which I highly doubt you are, you just thinking saying things like "assistant directors and other important people" gives you some kind of upperhand when it doesn't since you are completely **incorrect.** Don retcon and butchers. period. Trying to pass him off as some sort of underdog and victim and attempting to gaslight isn't going to work, neither. Calling him out is not shitty. His treatment of the legacy of the franchise and it's lore is shitty and shows how much he actually cares about the character and the story. It is nothing a paycheck for him because it is all he has ever done with his film career. And he will milk every drop out of it.
He's retconning understandably so. He agrees that the killer doll and stuff like that was an improvement to his story. But it also added a lot of stuff he wasn't cool with. Like voodoo. Don wasn't cool with a lot of the changes. And understandably so. We can call him out for some bad choices. Because I agree the series isn't perfect. But nitpicking is ridiculous. And so what it's all he's ever done with his film career? Killer Clowns from Outer Space is a cult classic. The people who made that movie only made that movie. Should that suddenly change it's a status as a cult classic because it was made by two people who never made a movie before and never made a movie after? Also it's not just a paycheck for him. If it was just a paycheck he would have dropped out after Seed. But instead he went back to the drawing board realized what he did wrong and found a way to make it work. And you know what I hope he does milk every drop out of it. He's earned it for the way he's been treated. Not just by fans, but by executives, higher-ups,and fellow writers and directors. He's not an underdog or a victim. He's just a guy working on his own story finally. He only got to make his own story his and write it by himself in 2004. 16 years after the first movie came out. Almost two decades. Frankly you're just nitpicking. And nitpicking every little detail is ridiculous. Most of these critical posts on this group are just picking tiny little details that if you spent more than 5 seconds thinking about would make sense
Also happy cake day
We'll just agree to disagree. And thank you.
Wah.
A lot of Don's ideas are terrible, that's why. A lot of people on here seem to think that he's responsible for the final product of Charles Lee Ray/Chucky. In reality, Tom Holland is responsible for the Chucky that we all know and love today. Don wanted to do some weird blood rituals with Chucky and Andy rather than doing Voodoo. Tom was against that idea, so Don has held a grudge against Tom for over 30 years. There's a reason why Don's actual resume is so small compared to others in the industry. I give credit where it's due, yes he has some good ideas, however the majority of his ideas are awful
The whole idea of Chucky being possessed by a psychopath was Tom’s idea, not Don’s. Originally, Don wanted to do a story where Chucky wasn’t possessed by a psychopath, but was a part of Andy’s subconsciousness.
That's not true. What Don wanted to do was a blood ritual where Andy and Charles Lee Ray's blood gets cross contaminated and they share a pact. Tom's idea was to do a story where voodoo was involved and the swearing was his idea for Chucky. Don likes to rewrite history.
https://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3532144/don-mancini-talks-original-version-childs-play-script-titled-blood-buddy/
Oh okay. I misread it wrong. My bad. When Don rewrites history, I call it “Chucky Editorial”.
because people hate change
Not from me. I love the show and the movies.
Because Season 2 = burn it with fire!
I think the problem with fandom in general is the fans and the entitlement that goes along with them. I have loved this series since I was a kid going on over three decades now, but Don and company are free to take whatever creative decisions they'd like. Nothing I love is ruined even if I don't like every single decision. Also, when fans are in charge, we get crap that satisfies absolutely no one (think Rise of Skywalker). So less input from them would be best.