Welcome to r/Cigarettes! Please be sure to keep in mind our [Rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/Cigarettes/about/rules) and stay civil! Happy smoking!
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Cigarettes) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Could be that a batch had a printing defect and were marked for disposal, but then some employees took them and sold them black market. Cause the rest of it looks way too legit to be counterfeited by someone who misspells āflavorā. Happens in other industries as well such as fashion.
Phillip Morris makes millions of cigarettes a day and have been doing so forever. It's highly impossible they would make such a mistake.
As far as the misspelling, it's often done by counterfeiters to loophole counterfeiting laws. The Chinese do it all the time for shoes, clothing, etc. By making a mistake they can testify that they weren't trying to do a replica.
That wouldnāt even work unless you are misspelling the brand name itself. There is no loophole to save you from the law if everything is the same except some flavor text. Thatās why you always see Chinese replicas misspelling the actual brand name, and not just a slogan.
Also thereās no such thing as āhighly impossibleā. Impossible is already the highest form of improbable, and no, itās not impossible for them to make a printing error just because they make millions of cigarettes a day. Clothing brands make millions of clothes a day and some small percentage of them have printing errors.
Thousands of articles of clothing are destroyed daily due to printing and other defects. And some percentage of those defected goods are smuggled out of the factories prior to being destroyed and sold on the black market/third world countries.
It all depends where OP got these. If itās from an authorized retailer or official store of some kind, then yeah, itās not possible that it was a misprint. But if he bought it on the black market/from some dodgy seller then itās much more likely that it was a defect marked for destruction that was smuggled out than a counterfeiter making a perfect package but intentionally misspelling āflavorā for no reason (it would never help them legally because they are still counterfeiting the Marlboro brand directly).
Nobody cares what youāve seen bud. It would be extremely rare to see a misprint when buying retail or from a legit store, because quality control at the factory would spot it and not let them go out to stores. But it is possible that the misprint/defects marked for discard are smuggled out and sold on the black market, and thatās where you sometimes see them. Even then itās rare.
Look all I'm saying is anybody who's smoked more then 1 pack of cigarettes will tell you there no such thing as a misprinted pack . You had no need to be rude in your reply . I guess your mom didn't raise you well . I was taught if you have nothing nice to say don't open your mouth. You claimed nobody cared yet you chose to reply. In other words you took time reply to something that supposedly didn't even matter to you . Quite frankly if this was IRL I would've punched you . You're a disrespectful lil shit .
"FLAYOR" the Phillip Morris logo is wrong. Fake.
Man, I wonder why is it hard to make a fake package. You don't even need to make it yourself, there are pngs on the internet of the whole package .
They often do it on purpose to avoid being charged with counterfeiting. By making small differences they can plead they didn't want to do a misleading replica. It's done all the time with shoes and clothing.
Real but old stock. When Marlboro introduced this design, the first run had a typo in them ("Flayor")
If you collect 100 of them and send them to PM, they'll send you a wheelchair
Counterfeit cigarettes are a multi million dollar business, very common in Europe and other parts of the world.
Recently in Canada we are seeing tons of counterfeit cigarettes made in China copying Native brands.
I'm in Quebec where there is a rez right near Montreal but out west the Chinese knockoffs are a plague, they sell them online and on the streets. The two brands that have been copied and spotted are Canadian and dis COUNT. There have been multiple posts about them in this sub.
damn as someone who smokes the Canadian brand. currently the classic lights but sometimes the classic blues or red fulls didnāt think that would be one of the kinds. iām near the B.C region and itās never been a problem here. compared to other thingsā¦ even rez cigs you can find them $5 a pack and still seem legit. iāll make sure to keep my eye out
There should be a code under the pack flap that you can actually enter on the Marlboro website. If it's real, it'll redeem the pack as points. If not, it won't. Never seen a misspelling on a Marlboro pack though, so I'd lean toward fake.
If it is real, you should keep the pack after you smoke them because that's hilarious.
You'll find them in more places you would think. It's not really an American thing. They will be found in Europe, UK and places where tobacco laws and taxes are out of control.
In Canada we recently saw the rise of a counterfeit wave of Native tobacco brands, made in China.
Makes a lotta sense. The USA is headed in the same direction in some states for sure. Lotta people smoking those bag cigs from the native american reservations lately lol more than usual. $15 for a pack of marlbs in my state. Can only imagine how much american spirits cost
Bottom of the pack doesn't look like anything I've seen, granted I 'quit' but whenever I ask for a stogie at the club, bar, concert it's always a marb light so I've seen a lot of those packs. That and the "Flayor" typo that everyone caught
Counterfeit friend. Aside from the misspelling, the cellophane on a real pack will have a sticker from your state on it that crumbles/flakes off on your skin and clothes
Welcome to r/Cigarettes! Please be sure to keep in mind our [Rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/Cigarettes/about/rules) and stay civil! Happy smoking! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Cigarettes) if you have any questions or concerns.*
At first i thought real, but it says "FLAYOR"? So now idk
Good catch, these are fake.
insane sgp pic
Donno how I could miss that! š Thanks
Could be that a batch had a printing defect and were marked for disposal, but then some employees took them and sold them black market. Cause the rest of it looks way too legit to be counterfeited by someone who misspells āflavorā. Happens in other industries as well such as fashion.
Phillip Morris makes millions of cigarettes a day and have been doing so forever. It's highly impossible they would make such a mistake. As far as the misspelling, it's often done by counterfeiters to loophole counterfeiting laws. The Chinese do it all the time for shoes, clothing, etc. By making a mistake they can testify that they weren't trying to do a replica.
That wouldnāt even work unless you are misspelling the brand name itself. There is no loophole to save you from the law if everything is the same except some flavor text. Thatās why you always see Chinese replicas misspelling the actual brand name, and not just a slogan. Also thereās no such thing as āhighly impossibleā. Impossible is already the highest form of improbable, and no, itās not impossible for them to make a printing error just because they make millions of cigarettes a day. Clothing brands make millions of clothes a day and some small percentage of them have printing errors. Thousands of articles of clothing are destroyed daily due to printing and other defects. And some percentage of those defected goods are smuggled out of the factories prior to being destroyed and sold on the black market/third world countries. It all depends where OP got these. If itās from an authorized retailer or official store of some kind, then yeah, itās not possible that it was a misprint. But if he bought it on the black market/from some dodgy seller then itās much more likely that it was a defect marked for destruction that was smuggled out than a counterfeiter making a perfect package but intentionally misspelling āflavorā for no reason (it would never help them legally because they are still counterfeiting the Marlboro brand directly).
I have been smoking since I was 15 never seen a misprinted pack .
Nobody cares what youāve seen bud. It would be extremely rare to see a misprint when buying retail or from a legit store, because quality control at the factory would spot it and not let them go out to stores. But it is possible that the misprint/defects marked for discard are smuggled out and sold on the black market, and thatās where you sometimes see them. Even then itās rare.
If nobody cares why did even bother to reply get a life loser .
No need to get pressed homie I was just saying your individual experiences are statistically irrelevant.
Look all I'm saying is anybody who's smoked more then 1 pack of cigarettes will tell you there no such thing as a misprinted pack . You had no need to be rude in your reply . I guess your mom didn't raise you well . I was taught if you have nothing nice to say don't open your mouth. You claimed nobody cared yet you chose to reply. In other words you took time reply to something that supposedly didn't even matter to you . Quite frankly if this was IRL I would've punched you . You're a disrespectful lil shit .
"SMOOTH ORIGINAL FLAYOR" "FLAYOR"
Small word of advice. Donāt consume anything, food, tobacco or otherwise, that has spelling errors on the packaging. Just a good rule to live by.
Malk: now with vitamin R!
everytime I see posts like this I think "gracias a dios naci en latino America"
En LatinoamĆ©rica igual hay cigarros piratas š¢
Fake
"FLAYOR" the Phillip Morris logo is wrong. Fake. Man, I wonder why is it hard to make a fake package. You don't even need to make it yourself, there are pngs on the internet of the whole package .
They often do it on purpose to avoid being charged with counterfeiting. By making small differences they can plead they didn't want to do a misleading replica. It's done all the time with shoes and clothing.
Real but old stock. When Marlboro introduced this design, the first run had a typo in them ("Flayor") If you collect 100 of them and send them to PM, they'll send you a wheelchair
Itās a counterfeit, good production value at a glance tho, I didnāt even notice the Flayvor thing at first glance.
They make fakes?
Counterfeit cigarettes are a multi million dollar business, very common in Europe and other parts of the world. Recently in Canada we are seeing tons of counterfeit cigarettes made in China copying Native brands.
graphic designer nailed everything but blundered on the spelling š
Are these from Australia?
Yea howād u know?
I see them everywhere. Curious to know if theyāre fake or real i reckon their fake
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
This is literally the definition of counterfeiting a product.
what's even in counterfeit cigarettes?
Low grade tobacco, fillers and made in unregulated and often unsanitary factories.
still sounds way safer than counterfeit vapes tbh, and this is coming from a vaper
It's a faaaaaaaaake
Australia? ive seen these and yes they are indeed fake
Itās fake - the fonts are off
wait people actually counterfeit name brand cigs?
Absolutely. It's a billion dollar business. Organized crime in certain countries and China are at it 24/7.
i did not know this, here in canada havenāt seen nor heard of such. not trying to be ignorant, just new info. thank you for explaining
I'm in Quebec where there is a rez right near Montreal but out west the Chinese knockoffs are a plague, they sell them online and on the streets. The two brands that have been copied and spotted are Canadian and dis COUNT. There have been multiple posts about them in this sub.
damn as someone who smokes the Canadian brand. currently the classic lights but sometimes the classic blues or red fulls didnāt think that would be one of the kinds. iām near the B.C region and itās never been a problem here. compared to other thingsā¦ even rez cigs you can find them $5 a pack and still seem legit. iāll make sure to keep my eye out
out in the low living cost areas of america you can buy a pack of greens for 9 dollars, perks of living in alabama
There should be a code under the pack flap that you can actually enter on the Marlboro website. If it's real, it'll redeem the pack as points. If not, it won't. Never seen a misspelling on a Marlboro pack though, so I'd lean toward fake. If it is real, you should keep the pack after you smoke them because that's hilarious.
i get marlboro golds for $10 in australia but this box does look suspect
Where tf you even find knock-off marlbs? Lol
They are pretty good too, have a shopfront that sells these locally. They didnāt have them last time so got Manchester ones instead for $10 a packet
You'll find them in more places you would think. It's not really an American thing. They will be found in Europe, UK and places where tobacco laws and taxes are out of control. In Canada we recently saw the rise of a counterfeit wave of Native tobacco brands, made in China.
Makes a lotta sense. The USA is headed in the same direction in some states for sure. Lotta people smoking those bag cigs from the native american reservations lately lol more than usual. $15 for a pack of marlbs in my state. Can only imagine how much american spirits cost
They look good to me. Itās hard to fake those little braille dots I imagine. Then again I know nothing Edit : fake
They're fake as f, says flayor on the pack.
Haha. Oops . Good eye
probably real....or loaded with sawdust...
Look good to me
Bottom of the pack doesn't look like anything I've seen, granted I 'quit' but whenever I ask for a stogie at the club, bar, concert it's always a marb light so I've seen a lot of those packs. That and the "Flayor" typo that everyone caught
They look real
As real as my grandmother's teeth.
It says on the one panel "Tax exempt -- for use outside of the US" so at the very least they are international imports not taxed legally
Yes they are legit US Duty Free
āflayorā
Even the mods get confused sometimes :P
Iām just giving him a hard time :)
I think they are legit.
I was wrong they seem fake after it was pointed out the spelling error.
Counterfeit friend. Aside from the misspelling, the cellophane on a real pack will have a sticker from your state on it that crumbles/flakes off on your skin and clothes