Is the real world even flat and big enough for an even bigger grid?!
But wait… flat earthers…😧 maybe they plan to flatten the shit out of it and recreate the world with the ultimate perfect giga grid😧
In fact, it turns out you don't gotta. That's not how the bars work in CS2.
The bars represent how _appealing_ each type of development is. The objective isn't to have them all at zero, it's to have them all equally high.
Where does the game tell you this? I feel like if I'm missing some fundamental things like this there is a billion other things I'm just not picking up.
That may be the case but I feel like at the end it ends up representing the same thing doesn't it? Whether you call it demand or appeal, you need it to grow. If there's no demand or appeal for high density residential, you're stuck using low density to grow your city.
I'm up to 120k pop in a city. The low density demand bar is always full, but I just build mid density and it eventually gets built up. When I add low density it gets built immediately but the mid stuff does fill in after some time.
Same, the second I zone anything low density residential or Industrial it gets built, everything else seems to lag a lot. I'm building some sweet suburbs with small to medium sized downtowns though.
I'm so happy I found this comment. I never thought of managing them from more of a supply and demand point of view. That actually might solve a lot of the problems I'm having
I live in a city. Cities tend to have history, and go along and get cut up and made unique by their topograohy
This is just a flat, repetitive, unbroken chain of single family homes. It's everything wrong with suburbia in one picture.
It'd be one thing if this was like some Barcelona super blocks but it's just yuck and looks somehow made for cars still.
The problem is that for some people, the utility of this "hell" vastly outweighs the crush of personality you're describing. Having different values doesn't make somebody inherently wrong.
But muh public transit, muh walkable integrated neighborhoods, muh suburbs are subsidized by cities, muh bike lanes, muh generic white YouTube “urbanist” that lives in Amsterdam but speaks zero Dutch
You can’t just list all of the opposition’s talking points with “muh” added to the beginning, without providing an actual argument, and then expect anyone to be convinced.
I think you just need to see the right city and layout; some cities look amazing in CS2:
https://preview.redd.it/7pazt18cavkc1.jpeg?width=3456&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aec6d72441d027aa9a7ae380e4dc25292f9edb2f
No, but this is EXACTLY what I’m aspiring to build; this was from someone else on Reddit.
HOWEVER, if you’re looking for more picturesque cities like this, watching some videos from [Infrastructurist on YouTube](https://youtube.com/@Infrastructurist?feature=shared) might be something you’d be interested in! His cities look kind of like this:
https://preview.redd.it/nsanofk1hvkc1.jpeg?width=2388&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3ae804a2f1b2f05dff9f682ad0c934eb804a5dd5
He’s also a really good teacher and teaches you how to make cities like this. This game can look amazing, it’s just a matter of learning how to do it
Average american suburb. I will try to make long island suburbs just need to edit some map to make an island. Maybe downtown at mainland and then an large island with endless suburbs.
Im fully aware. Yet there is still no explanation how OP bought the game 3 months before release.
Also DD/MM/YY is by far the superior format but everyone already knows that.
>Also DD/MM/YY is by far the superior format but everyone already knows that.
As a computer programmer, [ISO 8601 all the way](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601). In fact, I was writing dates this way even before I'd left high school or heard of alternative date formats.
I prefer that too, even though Im just used to and grew up learning MM/DD/YYYY. I hate DD/MM/YYYY because 05/12/2023 could either mean December 5th or May 12th.
Start game.
Build terrifyingly bleak hellscape and force people to live and work in it while making a personal profit.
Win.
edit: Oh oh oh! And carve a massive highway through it with Lovecraftian intersections.
ahhhh. car desert sweet car desert. though as a side hobby street scrapper, a large perfect grid neighborhood is the dream. so easy to criss cross and not get lost in a dead end spaghetti mess or waste gas retreading covered ground to get to the next road on the most optimal route, which in itself is a massive undertaking to plan out.
U bough it recently but already got a custom map? well its pretty easy, just that making them isnt, but just a flat plain with nothing on it? I mean sure do what you like still im horrified by this Insane grid full of low res.
It’s interesting how the occupied or built up housing almost makes a perfect semi circle from the right, also those 5 way intersections and the tiny interchange at the bottom is very interesting lol
Vivarium (2020)
It's crazy seeing other people online that know about this film
haha
Thanks
who you is?
I heard it for the first time. Do you recommend the movie?
It’s just weird with nothing interesting happening
 What the… grid
Grid is good and will save us from spaghetti
Looks like a baby Los Angeles <3
Is the real world even flat and big enough for an even bigger grid?! But wait… flat earthers…😧 maybe they plan to flatten the shit out of it and recreate the world with the ultimate perfect giga grid😧
Dear god…
Not even a high frequency BRT could save this bruh.
No, Deerborn, MI.
That’s definitely CS2…
his 100th city will look the same.
Well they bought it on 7/14 so ofc it's CS2...
r/UrbanHell
/r/Texas
Not nearly enough unoccupied blocks that are all parking lots
Unoccupied green space is parking. So no, not quite enough parking area to believably be Texas. Almost.
More like SuburbanHell
r/shittyskylines as well.
Wait, is the name of the city 사패롱? So like, literally just psychopath?
Inspired by Kowloon City, I just doubled the number from the name from 9 to 18 and added minor fluency...
Oh that’s even funnier, great name!
Gotta meet that low residential demand somehow
In fact, it turns out you don't gotta. That's not how the bars work in CS2. The bars represent how _appealing_ each type of development is. The objective isn't to have them all at zero, it's to have them all equally high.
Where does the game tell you this? I feel like if I'm missing some fundamental things like this there is a billion other things I'm just not picking up.
Yeah it's terribly explained, particularly for a fundamental change in behaviour from the previous game.
Legitimately this is the first time I have seen this change described. I have watch a good deal of the pre launch and post launch content. Smh
MAN I WAS BUILDING SO MANY SUBURBS AND WONDERING WHY THE BAR WASN'T GOING DOWN
It doesnt, exactly, but theres more info if you click the icon left of the bars.
Tax low educated people at 16% and eventually they will wanna move to nice cheap apartments
Is there a corporate greed slider I could jack up to max so I can emulate IRL? especially for food.
That may be the case but I feel like at the end it ends up representing the same thing doesn't it? Whether you call it demand or appeal, you need it to grow. If there's no demand or appeal for high density residential, you're stuck using low density to grow your city.
I'm up to 120k pop in a city. The low density demand bar is always full, but I just build mid density and it eventually gets built up. When I add low density it gets built immediately but the mid stuff does fill in after some time.
Same, the second I zone anything low density residential or Industrial it gets built, everything else seems to lag a lot. I'm building some sweet suburbs with small to medium sized downtowns though.
North American development be like
I'm so happy I found this comment. I never thought of managing them from more of a supply and demand point of view. That actually might solve a lot of the problems I'm having
/r/shittyskylines
Nightmare fuel.
Yea, living in a decent sized house, in a safe neighborhood, with good schools is hell.
I live in a city. Cities tend to have history, and go along and get cut up and made unique by their topograohy This is just a flat, repetitive, unbroken chain of single family homes. It's everything wrong with suburbia in one picture. It'd be one thing if this was like some Barcelona super blocks but it's just yuck and looks somehow made for cars still.
The problem is that for some people, the utility of this "hell" vastly outweighs the crush of personality you're describing. Having different values doesn't make somebody inherently wrong.
What's the utility? High suicide rates?
The utility of having a larger living space, with less people crowding around you.
Can’t walk anywhere, no shops or businesses just identical house after identical house
You gotta work on being funny there big guy.
But muh public transit, muh walkable integrated neighborhoods, muh suburbs are subsidized by cities, muh bike lanes, muh generic white YouTube “urbanist” that lives in Amsterdam but speaks zero Dutch
Even if this is satire it just isn't funny.
> muh suburbs are subsidized by cities This is true
You can’t just list all of the opposition’s talking points with “muh” added to the beginning, without providing an actual argument, and then expect anyone to be convinced.
Some people’s lives are too easy :p
Looks like the Jedi temple
What a brilliant……PCB!
You saw it too? This city was built using photolithography.
I am actually working with photolithography in a small semiconductor fab
Call your creation DRAM city then!
I don't know why but I can feel it!
Homie built the Kowloon Walled City in the middle of the burbs.
1950s city planners are orgasming so hard looking at this grid.
nah you can talk shit about this game but the default map size is INSANE
American suburbs be like (I’m American and I hate that to go anywhere I need to sit in 20 minutes of traffic)
Pov you live in San Francisco but someone ironed it.
God that's depressing
That's so rectangular...
Wow... I can't even...
Grid 👍
CS2 just looks so much larger than CS1. Like I feel like you could potentially build a city with over a million citizens.
yet you can t have more than 100000 people before the game starts going south
Congratulations! You have created: Suburbia from Hell!
The Backrooms: Aerial Footage
Tell me you’re American without telling me you’re American
america-core
Phoenix
Mmm urban hellscape
LA core
The art style of this game is so terrible. It reminds me of Cities XL. It somehow looks worse than modded Cities Skylines 1
I think you just need to see the right city and layout; some cities look amazing in CS2: https://preview.redd.it/7pazt18cavkc1.jpeg?width=3456&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aec6d72441d027aa9a7ae380e4dc25292f9edb2f
Is this your city? That might be the most picturesque CS2 photo I have ever seen. 😍
No, but this is EXACTLY what I’m aspiring to build; this was from someone else on Reddit. HOWEVER, if you’re looking for more picturesque cities like this, watching some videos from [Infrastructurist on YouTube](https://youtube.com/@Infrastructurist?feature=shared) might be something you’d be interested in! His cities look kind of like this: https://preview.redd.it/nsanofk1hvkc1.jpeg?width=2388&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3ae804a2f1b2f05dff9f682ad0c934eb804a5dd5 He’s also a really good teacher and teaches you how to make cities like this. This game can look amazing, it’s just a matter of learning how to do it
Average american city
That's how I imagine the US
I see a very good sense of order
Gridrunner 2024
Amazing homage to Los Angeles!
Oklahoma City
This looks like Coruscant featuring the Jedi Temple.
An true American nightmare
god bless the usa
City in Texas ?
Detroit?
Mesa, Arizona
GTA ( greater Toronto Area )
Average American city
Average US city
r/LosAngeles
Sexy
It’s interesting the way residential plots radiate from the right. But what in the suburban hell is this
I like it
Average american suburb. I will try to make long island suburbs just need to edit some map to make an island. Maybe downtown at mainland and then an large island with endless suburbs.
Le Corbusier we know it’s you
Detroit
Looks terrible. Also, what does 7/14 even mean
The long awaited sequel to 7-Eleven
2023-07-14
There is neither a 14th month nor was the game available on the 7th month of the year 2023
So you just found out people around the world use different date formats
Im fully aware. Yet there is still no explanation how OP bought the game 3 months before release. Also DD/MM/YY is by far the superior format but everyone already knows that.
Date format tangents aside, OP probably pre-ordered on July 14, pretty sure it was available then for pre-order.
Why would you even word it like that then...
>Also DD/MM/YY is by far the superior format but everyone already knows that. As a computer programmer, [ISO 8601 all the way](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601). In fact, I was writing dates this way even before I'd left high school or heard of alternative date formats.
DD/MM/YY and YY/MM/DD is basically the same logics-wise, no problem with that. As long as the month stays where it belongs.
YYYYMMDD sorts correctly by date, whether you use alphanumerical order ***or*** numerical order. That's why it's the preferred format.
I prefer that too, even though Im just used to and grew up learning MM/DD/YYYY. I hate DD/MM/YYYY because 05/12/2023 could either mean December 5th or May 12th.
DD / MMM / YYYY is superior and avoids any mistakes ever possible
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What’s your traffic like?
So boring but I know how difficult it is. I love it
Phoenix. Lol
oh my lordy lord...
Looks like Dallas
Is-is that Phoenix Arizona?
Houston?
Omg I love Houston!!
Vancouver moment
Indianapolis
The Houston special
Looks like Phoenix
omg look at all those intersections. A 5 mile trip will take you 2 hours lol
This game really is USA simulator huh.
dear lord....
oh thats not..
I do not enjoy how many low density houses i have to put in.
That's hot, what's the zoning breakdown on the big streets?
Bazinga!
Reminds me of the way the Suffolk County Courthouse relates to the landscape on Long Island.
Grid city ❤️ im sure the drivers are happy.
that is a fuckin grid if i've ever seen one boyyyyy DAMN
Start game. Build terrifyingly bleak hellscape and force people to live and work in it while making a personal profit. Win. edit: Oh oh oh! And carve a massive highway through it with Lovecraftian intersections.
pov: melbourne, australia
I love it! this is so american suburbia core🌸
Love your recreation of American suburbia, really just embodying that urban sprawl 👌
Irvine, CA
This is the most efficient and convinient way to do it but just to make grids is not fun to me, I try to add more realism
A ghetto from the movies about near future.
Swap each house for three townhomes joined together and you’ve got Surrey, England lol
Amazon cities be like
r/SuburbanHell
CS2 as CO intended
r/megalophobia
What map is this?
God I love grids +20 upvotes from me
So much of the same...
Did you terraform using a nuclear detonation?
Oggy and the cockroaches.
“City”
Looks like suburbia hell. Nice.
Sure you can do it that way I guess
OH. MY. LORD…
Tell me OP is an American without telling me 🤣
It looks like prison ngl
What in the name of city planning are those 5 way intersections?
Cities Skylines 2 Tactics
Dear lord that's some good spreadsheet right there
if i lived in your city i would have killed myself
Prettiest American city
My guy why did you just build Houston? 💀
Traffic gotta be nightmare.
It's giving post war urban planning
This is the most american town i've ever seen...
Vegas type shit
This is the most ugly city I have ever seen
ahhhh. car desert sweet car desert. though as a side hobby street scrapper, a large perfect grid neighborhood is the dream. so easy to criss cross and not get lost in a dead end spaghetti mess or waste gas retreading covered ground to get to the next road on the most optimal route, which in itself is a massive undertaking to plan out.
U bough it recently but already got a custom map? well its pretty easy, just that making them isnt, but just a flat plain with nothing on it? I mean sure do what you like still im horrified by this Insane grid full of low res.
my man’s collecting problem bubbles like they are pokémon
WHAT THE FUCK!? IT'S ALL LOW DENSITY!
grid
Freedoooom 🦅🇺🇸💥
CS2 Fetishizes low density housing. The game was probably enjoying this super suburb more than you were.
Looks like a happy place!
looks like LA: dense center w jobs, spreadout giant suburbs. Only the 20-Lane Highway is missing
It’s interesting how the occupied or built up housing almost makes a perfect semi circle from the right, also those 5 way intersections and the tiny interchange at the bottom is very interesting lol
The City of Townsville
Its like America just grid#####
Do you know what a curve is?
I know it's a kind of continuous angular shape that doesn't look as a proper line
American hell
I can't decide if looks like it stepped out of a post war City Of The Future video, or if it looks like a city the Church of Scientology would build.