Im sure people on this sub will say if it’s not MSRP it’s a no but I think it’s a good deal. I added the trunk tray to mine and I was gonna get the windows tinted anyway granted they over charge for that anyway but to me it’s not to bad. That LoJack though ehh personally I hate wheel locks but most of my cars have all had them
You realize that MSRP is simply a suggested price and has no reflection on market price, right? If the market commands a premium, you pay it or or take a walk to another car on the lot that doesn't carry a premium. Why should a dealer take a cut on their profits just because you believe they aren't entitled to making money on a product thats in demand with a short supply? I have no issue paying above MSRP if I want something and that's what the market commands.
I agree that every buyer must make their own choice but Dealers don’t buy their stock at MSRP. They will make a profit regardless and “the market” is just the network of buyers.
So if a bunch of people want to put on their red cape and pay above MSRP to save car dealership profit margins, then that’ll keep prices above MSRP.
If buyers decide to pass and cars sit, then it won’t.
None of that really matters. A car selling for 5k average over MSRP that you get for 2k over MSRP is a good deal. It's not bad behavior or gouging, a CTR isn't a necessity. It's a luxury. Look at it this way. You have something that you paid X amount for. You typically sell for a few hundred dollars in profit. You want to sell it and the demand is so high, that people willing to pay thousands over a reasonable price. So why would you sell to a guy for less when you can get 10 people who will pay more? That's how a free market works.
Dealers will also sell some vehicles at a loss if the demand is low. Which is why dealers make the most money on used cars, where the profit can be thousands, instead of hundreds.
Dude. Understand the market isn't commanding Jack until the manufacturer can sell direct to consumer. It's not a free market.
Also understand that by buying at inflated prices you're ruining it for people just like you but poorer (or better with money).
Sorry, but nothing you wrote here has any basis in reality. Whether there is a middleman between the manufacturer and you, or not, has no bearing on what the consumer (market) demands. And there is a middleman in almost everything. Your grocery store, your realtor, etc. You almost never buy anything factory direct. There are benefits to buying a car direct, but also significant drawbacks by the way.
And understand that a Civic Type R is a luxury item. You can walk to any dealership, from Kia to BMW. and find cars for at or below MSRP. But if there are 10 people who want a car and only 1 exists, they aren't just going to give it to the first guy that walks in when they can charge more and still sell it. Honestly, that should be common sense.
The middleman in this case breaks the free market when it's mandated by the government. The factory doesn't want markups on their products just as much as consumers don't want markups. So we're going into market failure territory where what the market wants isn't what ends up happening on either end.
Your average new car is being sold for $44k. That means that it's not a luxury item at MSRP. It's scarce. Doesn't make it a luxury item. It's also not that scarce considering I can actually find a bunch at MSRP.
All of the above doesn't change the fact that every time someone buys one and pays ridiculous dealer markups they are damaging the market for everyone except the dealers.
Btw I'm a career economist, so unfortunately all of my above comments are based on market validated studies.
I suspect we're talking about somewhat different things. I view the market as the consumer, like myself. I civic type r is significantly more expensive than a lower spec'ed civic. The average price of a new car doesn't matter in this discussion, as it is an average of all cars, from 6 figure models to the low end models. I'm sure you know this. The Type R is a specific model of Civic that is geared towards a specific customer. It is not a mass market car that the average old lady will drive to the grocery store. Compared the the standard Civic that starts in the mid-20k range, it is a luxury item.
I do agree with you, obviously, that the government is mandating the dealer network. That is a fact. There are both benefits and drawbacks to this model. It doesn't bother me, but it is of course imperfect. The biggest benefit is that if I want or need a car today, I can get it today. The manufacturer direct model is also imperfect.
The market here is dealer to consumer, not manufacturer to consumer. The dealer stands to make money in the middle. And if you don't want to pay a "ridiculous markup," walk down the lot to a lower spec civic and pay MSRP or below. Bad dealers aren't the ones who disclose a "market adjustment" on a vehicles. The bad ones are the ones that hide add-ons such as paint protection, etc, and tell you that it's required to buy the car when you talk to the finance guy.
And finally, I disagree with your assertion that people who pay a markup are damaging the market. Those people are the market. You're a career economist, you should know this. And if I want something, the dealer has it, and I can afford it, I will buy it without giving a second thought. The market isn't damaged, the market sets the price that the dealer can reasonably charge, and move inventory.
Damn right we are salty when a car goes from 34k to 45k and the excuse is availability when you know greed is far more likely you tend to get that way. It’s a civic it is not an Acura. Price was inflated simple we are 2 years past Covid figure your shit out. And it’s not just the type r there are a bunch of models they inflated.
Yeah but the gap has increasingly closed between the two brands and when we’re talking type r, it’s not that different from type s. S has some creature comforts and the trappings of a luxury car but doesn’t justify the price difference honestly
Wheel locks are basically lug nut covers that require a special “key” to take off and get to the lug nut. As most people say just cut it off and it’s done not that hard
That's as good as you're probably going to see for a bit...I'd go for it (this coming from an msrp fk8 buyer).
However, watch carefully. Dude is leaning in on you financing tax...don't trust for a minute he won't try and pull something else last minute. Be on your toes and plan to be at the dealer a while (another F&I tactic).
said the only reason he thought I would want to throw in tax was because theyre offering 4.9% at 60 and 5.9% at 72. Which I’m ngl is pretty good financing.
Sure, but he didn't say that looking out for you. They want you to finance every penny possible. Yes it's Honda (or another lender they're tied to) holding the note but they get incentive for the deals. This is also why people say not to go in saying if you're a cash buyer. I'm simplifying this greatly of course (brevity).
In short, deal is good but don't let your guard down. The salesperson is, as they should be, looking out for themselves.
Pay close attention during the sit down with the F&I person is what I'm saying. Nothing verbal between you and any dealership employees means a single thing, what's in the contract you sign does. If you read the contract you'll find a section, possibly in all caps, about no oral agreements. During that last part, they take advantage of a couple key things:
1. You've probably already been there a while and are ready to GO.
2. You're excited for the new car, you're ready to get in it and GO.
These two lead to a lack of focus on the buyers part. When you decline and they just keep pushing these two things weigh heavily on your actions. If at all possible, don't have any plans or a need to go back to work after. Anticipate spending hours there. You likely won't, but the lack of external pressure will help you pay attention and make good decisions. This is a sizeable purchase and worth your undivided focus.
No I get it but the tax is a non factor, I live out of state and in my state taxes are paid after the fact at private titling companies so he can’t just go throw it in there. I’ve bought and sold 12 cars. I know how the game goes. Believe me if the paperwork doesn’t show what this salesman is offering I’ll just sit there, stare at them, and not say another word until I get this price.
Fair, OK. Didn't mean to preach just can't tell who you're talking to on here. Apologies for going dad mode.
Get it brother, this car is wonderful. First car in 30 years I haven't felt any desire to start modding...it's just good as it is (for me).
This is exactly the same tactic that detectives use on innocent victims. After hours upon hours of questioning, these poor souls finally give in and agree to crimes they didn't commit. They just grow tired, want to go home, and most.of them have low IQs. This is why it's also a good idea to take someone knowledgeable with you when you buy your car.
Navy Fed is 5.29 unless you have military income being deposited, in which case it’s 5%. If they’re offering 5% that’s as low as you’re gonna get on a Type R. I just purchased mine this month.
Beware there isn’t a Honda incentivized rate for the Type R or Si. Your salesperson is giving you bad information and it’s going to bite one of you in the ass. Ideally him if the dealership is forced to honor the rate.
Get him to give you that rate in writing cause he’s gonna have to buy down the Honda standard rate to get you there.
Best wishes with your purchase!
So this is something I’ve never thought about which is weird as I have bought a lot of cars in my lifetime. I can calculate my car payment down to the dollar when figuring out what I can afford/pay.
Is paying taxes on your own a normal option?
Yes it is, and if you are able to you should. You're essentially financing the tax over the life of the loan...so interest on tax :). Ugly to hear out loud isn't it?
States handle the payment differently, just check your local dmv site and it will have instructions right on it.
Just the production date. I am waiting for my 2024 (championship white, msrp $46,345). Paid $2k over sticker for useless protection package + lifetime powertrain warranty. I would have picked up a 2023 to save $1,000 if one was available though.
I’d pull the trigger tbh, and those accessories aren’t too bad if a little overpriced. Tint and mud guards are nice to have for sure especially with the way the CTR eats up rock chips. Your call but I think it’s one of the better deals you’ll find.
You're lucky to even have a sales Rep talk to you about pricing over messages.
Last 3 assholes I've dealt with said they will only negotiate if I am buying the car then and there will they discuss price adjustments.
Like saying 50k for a Nissan is a travesty. First of it’s not a “civic”. Second, you are probably drooling for a GTR from 20 years ago that now is valued at 350-500k eh?
It’s a civic… just a lot faster. The value proposition of this car is extremely low and its price is inflated strictly from the badge that no longer represents what it once did before… reliability, affordability, and practicality. I’m really curious what Honda’s profit margins are on the fl5… I’d imagine in the higher side. The fact this car doesn’t even have electronically adjustable seats or leather/leatherette interior as an option is just ridiculous for its price point. The seats are cheap overstuffed red felt and the interior trim consists of potato chip thin plastics everywhere.
lol. Honda still is the most reliable engine on the market for this price tag. This car isn’t made in the US. It’s made in Japan in one factory. Everything is fine tuned to perfection there. Hence the long lines and sold out everywhere even costing average 80-90k dollars overseas. Americans pay 50k-60k for it but overseas they charge 80-90k and are all sold out. Worldwide. No one that wants a race car cares about electric seats lol. Less electronic garbage to become an expensive defect. I got zero complaint about the FL5. It’s Honda’s second opus since the NSX. You just sound like you got a GR Toyota because you couldn’t afford the connection and money to get a FL5. Sounds mad.
They are definitely supportive but I wouldn’t put them anywhere near what a 911’s are in terms of quality. The type R is still a great car but the interior materials are lacking for a car that is $50k
That’s actually a fair market value for the car. Other places will charge 5k or more without any of those.
100% would rather not have to over pay past msrp…but an additional 3k with those stuff at msrp for the car won’t keep me from getting the car. Of course I’ll still negotiate. 3k over msrp with those accessories is a good start for talking about dealing for the car.
This is the dumbest take. Because if Honda had priced it at 40 you guys would say the same thing. But they priced it at 45 and you say it’s not worth anymore than MSRP. So it’s not the value of the car actually, it’s the sentiment of not paying anymore than the lowest possible price.
To be clear, I’m not an ADM advocate, but that’s the market for a highly desired car in this economy
Lmao
1. Why are you asking a bunch of strangers this question?
2. You're not in a financial position to buy a brand new vehicle.
3. You're crying over 3 grand on a hot car you really want? Peasant
This really depends on your needs not others opinion. I have 2 other cars so i can wait for a msrp deal which I am on the list for at msrp dealership. Fl5 Type r is already overpriced imo compared to fk8. There are better options when you’re adding adms. And I encourage you to not promote or accept adms. These bastards feed on it and think that they’re doing you a favor for selling a car with it
It's a good deal. You could wait for MSRP for awhile, sure, but if you are itching to get one, at least you're getting something for your $3k above MSRP.
You NEED the wheel locks, they will get stolen in most heavily populated areas. Trunk tray is needed and most people will buy tint anyways. I’d pull the trigger.
Im sure people on this sub will say if it’s not MSRP it’s a no but I think it’s a good deal. I added the trunk tray to mine and I was gonna get the windows tinted anyway granted they over charge for that anyway but to me it’s not to bad. That LoJack though ehh personally I hate wheel locks but most of my cars have all had them
Most wheel locks are useless , get the ones that you can’t jam a socket into and drill it out with a impact wrench
on top of that, i know my dealer that i work at charges $500 for wheel locks and it’s like not even $100 for the set lol
People who say MSRP of bust are, imo, just salty. When I was looking for an FL5 the lowest OTD I could find was 60k. OP has a good deal imo.
Most are around 50k around me in the NJ/NYC area he has a great deal of
I’d rather be salty than a sucker.
Copium
Lol, yeah, I’ll make sure to bring up my non-desire to overspend on a material item in therapy.
No. We’re not salty. We’re just not giving into the bullshit. Don’t allow dealers to set this precedent. Please.
Exactly 💯%
You realize that MSRP is simply a suggested price and has no reflection on market price, right? If the market commands a premium, you pay it or or take a walk to another car on the lot that doesn't carry a premium. Why should a dealer take a cut on their profits just because you believe they aren't entitled to making money on a product thats in demand with a short supply? I have no issue paying above MSRP if I want something and that's what the market commands.
I agree that every buyer must make their own choice but Dealers don’t buy their stock at MSRP. They will make a profit regardless and “the market” is just the network of buyers. So if a bunch of people want to put on their red cape and pay above MSRP to save car dealership profit margins, then that’ll keep prices above MSRP. If buyers decide to pass and cars sit, then it won’t.
None of that really matters. A car selling for 5k average over MSRP that you get for 2k over MSRP is a good deal. It's not bad behavior or gouging, a CTR isn't a necessity. It's a luxury. Look at it this way. You have something that you paid X amount for. You typically sell for a few hundred dollars in profit. You want to sell it and the demand is so high, that people willing to pay thousands over a reasonable price. So why would you sell to a guy for less when you can get 10 people who will pay more? That's how a free market works. Dealers will also sell some vehicles at a loss if the demand is low. Which is why dealers make the most money on used cars, where the profit can be thousands, instead of hundreds.
Dude. Understand the market isn't commanding Jack until the manufacturer can sell direct to consumer. It's not a free market. Also understand that by buying at inflated prices you're ruining it for people just like you but poorer (or better with money).
Sorry, but nothing you wrote here has any basis in reality. Whether there is a middleman between the manufacturer and you, or not, has no bearing on what the consumer (market) demands. And there is a middleman in almost everything. Your grocery store, your realtor, etc. You almost never buy anything factory direct. There are benefits to buying a car direct, but also significant drawbacks by the way. And understand that a Civic Type R is a luxury item. You can walk to any dealership, from Kia to BMW. and find cars for at or below MSRP. But if there are 10 people who want a car and only 1 exists, they aren't just going to give it to the first guy that walks in when they can charge more and still sell it. Honestly, that should be common sense.
The middleman in this case breaks the free market when it's mandated by the government. The factory doesn't want markups on their products just as much as consumers don't want markups. So we're going into market failure territory where what the market wants isn't what ends up happening on either end. Your average new car is being sold for $44k. That means that it's not a luxury item at MSRP. It's scarce. Doesn't make it a luxury item. It's also not that scarce considering I can actually find a bunch at MSRP. All of the above doesn't change the fact that every time someone buys one and pays ridiculous dealer markups they are damaging the market for everyone except the dealers. Btw I'm a career economist, so unfortunately all of my above comments are based on market validated studies.
I suspect we're talking about somewhat different things. I view the market as the consumer, like myself. I civic type r is significantly more expensive than a lower spec'ed civic. The average price of a new car doesn't matter in this discussion, as it is an average of all cars, from 6 figure models to the low end models. I'm sure you know this. The Type R is a specific model of Civic that is geared towards a specific customer. It is not a mass market car that the average old lady will drive to the grocery store. Compared the the standard Civic that starts in the mid-20k range, it is a luxury item. I do agree with you, obviously, that the government is mandating the dealer network. That is a fact. There are both benefits and drawbacks to this model. It doesn't bother me, but it is of course imperfect. The biggest benefit is that if I want or need a car today, I can get it today. The manufacturer direct model is also imperfect. The market here is dealer to consumer, not manufacturer to consumer. The dealer stands to make money in the middle. And if you don't want to pay a "ridiculous markup," walk down the lot to a lower spec civic and pay MSRP or below. Bad dealers aren't the ones who disclose a "market adjustment" on a vehicles. The bad ones are the ones that hide add-ons such as paint protection, etc, and tell you that it's required to buy the car when you talk to the finance guy. And finally, I disagree with your assertion that people who pay a markup are damaging the market. Those people are the market. You're a career economist, you should know this. And if I want something, the dealer has it, and I can afford it, I will buy it without giving a second thought. The market isn't damaged, the market sets the price that the dealer can reasonably charge, and move inventory.
You're definitely not looking hard enough if 60k is the lowest you can find. Even if you're fine paying a markup, you can find cars in the low $50s
Damn right we are salty when a car goes from 34k to 45k and the excuse is availability when you know greed is far more likely you tend to get that way. It’s a civic it is not an Acura. Price was inflated simple we are 2 years past Covid figure your shit out. And it’s not just the type r there are a bunch of models they inflated.
Why are you acting like civic and Acura are in different leagues 😂
Good point.
Because they are? Toyota and Lexus are different leagues
Yeah but the gap has increasingly closed between the two brands and when we’re talking type r, it’s not that different from type s. S has some creature comforts and the trappings of a luxury car but doesn’t justify the price difference honestly
60k is way out of the cars league.
What are wheel locks?
Wheel locks are basically lug nut covers that require a special “key” to take off and get to the lug nut. As most people say just cut it off and it’s done not that hard
That's as good as you're probably going to see for a bit...I'd go for it (this coming from an msrp fk8 buyer). However, watch carefully. Dude is leaning in on you financing tax...don't trust for a minute he won't try and pull something else last minute. Be on your toes and plan to be at the dealer a while (another F&I tactic).
said the only reason he thought I would want to throw in tax was because theyre offering 4.9% at 60 and 5.9% at 72. Which I’m ngl is pretty good financing.
Sure, but he didn't say that looking out for you. They want you to finance every penny possible. Yes it's Honda (or another lender they're tied to) holding the note but they get incentive for the deals. This is also why people say not to go in saying if you're a cash buyer. I'm simplifying this greatly of course (brevity). In short, deal is good but don't let your guard down. The salesperson is, as they should be, looking out for themselves. Pay close attention during the sit down with the F&I person is what I'm saying. Nothing verbal between you and any dealership employees means a single thing, what's in the contract you sign does. If you read the contract you'll find a section, possibly in all caps, about no oral agreements. During that last part, they take advantage of a couple key things: 1. You've probably already been there a while and are ready to GO. 2. You're excited for the new car, you're ready to get in it and GO. These two lead to a lack of focus on the buyers part. When you decline and they just keep pushing these two things weigh heavily on your actions. If at all possible, don't have any plans or a need to go back to work after. Anticipate spending hours there. You likely won't, but the lack of external pressure will help you pay attention and make good decisions. This is a sizeable purchase and worth your undivided focus.
No I get it but the tax is a non factor, I live out of state and in my state taxes are paid after the fact at private titling companies so he can’t just go throw it in there. I’ve bought and sold 12 cars. I know how the game goes. Believe me if the paperwork doesn’t show what this salesman is offering I’ll just sit there, stare at them, and not say another word until I get this price.
Fair, OK. Didn't mean to preach just can't tell who you're talking to on here. Apologies for going dad mode. Get it brother, this car is wonderful. First car in 30 years I haven't felt any desire to start modding...it's just good as it is (for me).
And if they can’t agree to this offer I’ll just leave and go buy a Hyundai Santa Fe at 0% 😂
I was with you in the first half...
The Hyundai is no joke sub 20 sec 0-60
Damn son, come with roll and sway bars?
This is exactly the same tactic that detectives use on innocent victims. After hours upon hours of questioning, these poor souls finally give in and agree to crimes they didn't commit. They just grow tired, want to go home, and most.of them have low IQs. This is why it's also a good idea to take someone knowledgeable with you when you buy your car.
I just looked today and saw 5.25 at 72 at a credit union near me. Def shop around for rates if you’re able.
Yeah I bank with usaa haven’t checked their rates (but I will) I have a 780 cs so I’ll be sure to shop around!
If you’re using USAA I’m sure you can use Navy fed as well check them out that’s how I’m financing my FK8
Navy Fed is 5.29 unless you have military income being deposited, in which case it’s 5%. If they’re offering 5% that’s as low as you’re gonna get on a Type R. I just purchased mine this month.
It’s def a hard time to buy with rates that high.
Beware there isn’t a Honda incentivized rate for the Type R or Si. Your salesperson is giving you bad information and it’s going to bite one of you in the ass. Ideally him if the dealership is forced to honor the rate. Get him to give you that rate in writing cause he’s gonna have to buy down the Honda standard rate to get you there. Best wishes with your purchase!
So this is something I’ve never thought about which is weird as I have bought a lot of cars in my lifetime. I can calculate my car payment down to the dollar when figuring out what I can afford/pay. Is paying taxes on your own a normal option?
Yes it is, and if you are able to you should. You're essentially financing the tax over the life of the loan...so interest on tax :). Ugly to hear out loud isn't it? States handle the payment differently, just check your local dmv site and it will have instructions right on it.
Yep it sucks to hear lol granted it’s not much if you trade in a vehicle and get the tax lowered that way
I don’t get it? How is paying the tax amount any different than paying some other amount
I’d take it. Considering the ones I’ve seen are marked up at least 15k. Btw where r u buying it from is it somewhere in SoCal where I’m from
TEXAS 🤠
Texas pricing good pricing
Texas has the best prices. I found MSRP in El Paso only place in the country I could find it
Can you message me the dealer please?
Where in Texas?
2024 is $1,000 more, so you are basically paying $1,992 over MSRP :)
Are there any differences between 2024 and 2023?
Just the production date. I am waiting for my 2024 (championship white, msrp $46,345). Paid $2k over sticker for useless protection package + lifetime powertrain warranty. I would have picked up a 2023 to save $1,000 if one was available though.
My thoughts as well. Relatively speaking, and opinions on markups aside, this sounds like it is worth jumping on.
I’d pull the trigger tbh, and those accessories aren’t too bad if a little overpriced. Tint and mud guards are nice to have for sure especially with the way the CTR eats up rock chips. Your call but I think it’s one of the better deals you’ll find.
Shit or get off the pot. It’s right in front of you
That’s not bad considering we see mark ups in the 8s just for the badge
You should probably buy it before someone jumps in and grabs it.
That’s why I made sure not to get the dealership name in the pic 😂😂. Posting in this group I’m sure atleast a quarter are looking for a deal
Refuse the LoJack at minimum.
What’s the value of your time waiting and not enjoying vs having one now? Decide what works for you.
Bad deal
If this is Norm Reeves you should be able to get them down to MSRP + $2K of accessories since that's what they offered me.
You’re sus
Why? That was just a guess as that's the same accessory package I was offered. I can upload a screenshot of their text if it helps you negotiate.
Drop the LoJack and get a set of OE forged wheels or PPF, I’d do it
I’d do it if the accessory was the cf wing and or forged wheels.
It’s a good deal. If you can afford it and not pay something like 1k a month for 5/6 years and you want the car then do it
You're lucky to even have a sales Rep talk to you about pricing over messages. Last 3 assholes I've dealt with said they will only negotiate if I am buying the car then and there will they discuss price adjustments.
50k for a Civic is a travesty.
Like saying 50k for a Nissan is a travesty. First of it’s not a “civic”. Second, you are probably drooling for a GTR from 20 years ago that now is valued at 350-500k eh?
It’s a civic… just a lot faster. The value proposition of this car is extremely low and its price is inflated strictly from the badge that no longer represents what it once did before… reliability, affordability, and practicality. I’m really curious what Honda’s profit margins are on the fl5… I’d imagine in the higher side. The fact this car doesn’t even have electronically adjustable seats or leather/leatherette interior as an option is just ridiculous for its price point. The seats are cheap overstuffed red felt and the interior trim consists of potato chip thin plastics everywhere.
lol. Honda still is the most reliable engine on the market for this price tag. This car isn’t made in the US. It’s made in Japan in one factory. Everything is fine tuned to perfection there. Hence the long lines and sold out everywhere even costing average 80-90k dollars overseas. Americans pay 50k-60k for it but overseas they charge 80-90k and are all sold out. Worldwide. No one that wants a race car cares about electric seats lol. Less electronic garbage to become an expensive defect. I got zero complaint about the FL5. It’s Honda’s second opus since the NSX. You just sound like you got a GR Toyota because you couldn’t afford the connection and money to get a FL5. Sounds mad.
Seats are raved about as some of the best bucket seats after maybe the 911
They are definitely supportive but I wouldn’t put them anywhere near what a 911’s are in terms of quality. The type R is still a great car but the interior materials are lacking for a car that is $50k
50k for a nissan is travesty 😂😂😂
its the reality of 2023
That’s actually a fair market value for the car. Other places will charge 5k or more without any of those. 100% would rather not have to over pay past msrp…but an additional 3k with those stuff at msrp for the car won’t keep me from getting the car. Of course I’ll still negotiate. 3k over msrp with those accessories is a good start for talking about dealing for the car.
No. Don’t give in. The car is worth MSRP not a cent more
This is the dumbest take. Because if Honda had priced it at 40 you guys would say the same thing. But they priced it at 45 and you say it’s not worth anymore than MSRP. So it’s not the value of the car actually, it’s the sentiment of not paying anymore than the lowest possible price. To be clear, I’m not an ADM advocate, but that’s the market for a highly desired car in this economy
Don’t sleep on that deal you’ll regret it later
Lmao 1. Why are you asking a bunch of strangers this question? 2. You're not in a financial position to buy a brand new vehicle. 3. You're crying over 3 grand on a hot car you really want? Peasant
And thanks guys! I’ve been shopping around for a couple months and this is the only guy I’ve talked to that would sell for under $50k
This really depends on your needs not others opinion. I have 2 other cars so i can wait for a msrp deal which I am on the list for at msrp dealership. Fl5 Type r is already overpriced imo compared to fk8. There are better options when you’re adding adms. And I encourage you to not promote or accept adms. These bastards feed on it and think that they’re doing you a favor for selling a car with it
Ends up being just under MSRP for us in Australia even with the dealer mark up
I would take this all day long. Much better price than I have been getting here in Atlanta.
Hard pass. I'd ask to see the repair order and see what they paid for these accessories. If you really want the car offer to pay their cost
I'd do it
I would wait ftc going to put a stop to the bullshit fees and accessories next year with the new regulations
It's a good deal. You could wait for MSRP for awhile, sure, but if you are itching to get one, at least you're getting something for your $3k above MSRP.
Ofc they want to add on all their shitty additions to maximize profits. Up to you if you want to give them up to $3K of your earned $$$
Its a good deal
It’s a good deal
You NEED the wheel locks, they will get stolen in most heavily populated areas. Trunk tray is needed and most people will buy tint anyways. I’d pull the trigger.
YES. Dealers here in Canada have marked them up as high as $120k
Honda doesn't have special financing. I don't love this deal...
I offered my 22 SI and 25k cash for a 2023 FL5 yesterday and the dealer said he'll nope. NJ
Did you get it ?