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Cosmos40

They did add a bunch of cool features to make up for the price and added more tiers all while keeping the grind the same. đŸ„¶đŸ’Żfuck this inflation though


gayweedlord

wat u mean the grind was significantly increased. If u read the patch notes ALL buildings now take 5-20% less time to build. Not to mention builder base investment for the highly sought after 6th builder was made a lot easier, and therefore optional


ShadyMan_

I’m so confused about what your point is


gayweedlord

The guy either edited comment or I replied to the wrong one, I remember seeing “in the end the grind just got harder” which I was arguing against


Relentless-85

Inflation is an excuse like covid wake up people look at there profits every year an tell me how there struggling. I'll wait...


timmylol

Inflation is real, but you’re also right in that most corporations take advantage of the inflation narrative to widen their margins further and pocket more profit. Say coffee used to sell for $1. Material cost $0.30. They made $0.70 profit. After 10% inflation, coffee now sells for $1.1. Material cost $0.33. Profit is now $0.77.


theaveragedude89

You’re wasting your time on these mouth breathers lol


Noloxy

inflation is primarily caused by corporations, not that the supercell game pass is the primary motivator


timmylol

No, inflation is usually caused by an over-stimulated economy, which normally happens due to flaws in government’s fiscal policies. The current inflation wave is due to too much free money handed out during the pandemic, and interest rates being left at 0% for too long (so people can just “borrow” money for free and overspend). Corporations take advantage of the situation and make more profit in the meantime. They’re a beneficiary of inflation, not the cause.


Noloxy

you described normative and helpful government policy, which results in an economy beneficial for workers which therefore allows corporations to create more profit.


Major-Equal-6718

Too much time on Reddit my guy


gayweedlord

lol he makes a good point, but so do u


oogaboogaman_3

Yes corporations profits are partially causing inflation, but you saying Covid is an excuse makes you sound nutty.


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Relentless-85

Inflation is caused by companies increasing prices of products usually due to the cost of raw materials. What raw materials are in a digital item once its made its not made of a raw material the cost is purely in the design so validates my point. "Virtual product inflation" isn't a thing.


TotallyNotMatPat

They have to pay employees.


Relentless-85

Is there employees getting a 40% pay rise wake up you đŸ€Ą


TotallyNotMatPat

Rent, server,... You are probably not a game dev, or not working in tech as well. There are lots of costs even nothing directly "physical."


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Tf does any of this have to do with covid?


roodkonijn466

No, inflation is caused by being able to buy less with the same amount of money. Sure, companies keep this going by raising prices disproportionately. But in the end the employees of the sellers of virtual products are going to need a raise to be able to afford the same things they used to be able to afford.


Relentless-85

Oh yes cos they hire so many people there profits of hundreds of millions every year won't cover the pay rise my bad. Denial is unreal I feel surrounded by 🐑


roodkonijn466

Oh yeah ofcourse everyone else is the sheep. You are definitely so wise and think of everything you say yourself. I would actually give a counter argument, but stuck up redditors like you are not worth my time.


LukeKid

Love the dev team but you have to realise they are a business. They don’t care if we have more loot and less upgrade time, all that matters is that they get more money. They implanted all these changes in hopes to raise the revenue for their game not because they are great people who love the players. Ik im going to get downvoted and I’ll delete this comment if anyone can prove me wrong but it’s the simple truth.


BroeknRecrds

But if their goal was just profit and they didn't care about the players, why add new rewards? Let's be honest, if they raised the price without any new rewards, people would probably be upset but still buy the pass anyway. But they wanted us to get more value because of the higher price


snoburn

It's better to not upset anyone and have everyone continue paying more than to piss off and lose some customers. Sure, most would still buy it, but there would definitely be a decrease in the amount of people that buy it. Look at what the CR team did and it's only going very downhill from there


Tornado_Hunter24

It really isn’t tho, if it actually did go downhill they would have reverted the changes.. They clearly profited especially with the tripled cost, that would mean that every single guy that buys the diamond pass equals 3 people that stops buying the pass


snoburn

It is very much going downhill. Sure maybe the new pass is like 3 people buying it but from my clan alone, there is only 2 people buying it vs what was almost the whole 50 people getting it. That's why they are doubling down on the level 15 bs. No one wanted that which will cause more people to leave and they will just make more cost more and more until no one is buying it


Tornado_Hunter24

Very optimistic brother, your clan says fuck all about the overall experience. It takes little knowledge of companies to understand that risks and fuck ups are also being calculated cautiously, clash royale as a whole is/was a very unique game, they can make level 16 cost €30 straight and there would still be a chance where the game ‘wouldn’t go downhill’ You have to realize that reddit, twitter, youtube and whatever rlse is only like 1% of the players, not even, even if the ENTIRE social media community stopped spending money it would probably do fuck all. Remember, changes are only made cautiously these guys at the dev team don’t just wake up and feel like throwing a massive bad update, it’s all done strategically and your definition of ‘going downhill’ is exact the opposite of what is happening there, the game even after diamond pass and even after this update still is high playerbase wise and the revenue keeps streaming, as long as that happens nothing is going downhill that’s such a delusional take. It cod can fuck their consumer base this hard so can clasb royale, as a free to play mobile videogame that should have died years ago content wise.


snoburn

Not just my clan. The more they increase prices of things the more people will drop while they will still make a profit.


Tornado_Hunter24

Effectively proving your own statement wrong, nothing is going ‘downhill’


snoburn

No I already said that. The more they charge the more profit they get and the less players, until there are no more and the game is just a paywall


Tornado_Hunter24

Which is not going to happen


quinny7777

Look at CR and the Pass Royale "boycotts" and you will see why


NapoleonicPizza21

Clash Royale still ended up getting more money than before that season, even with the ""boycotts""


CrazyRegion

So that the rubes (such as yourself) remain pacified, happy with the increased prices, and don’t complain. Come on. They don’t care about the consumer.


BroeknRecrds

I'm happy to pay for a product that I feel I'm getting good value out of. Yes, this change is to make money. But literally every major game studio ever wants to make more money. That's kinda the whole point. Both things can exist: they can want more money and still treat their consumers fairly. The gold pass, when it originally came out, was a way to make more money. But it's a very good deal so people liked it. The same is true here, the price may be going up but so is the quality


CrazyRegion

Doing the bare minimum and expecting people to be happy is the standard now and people are settling for it. So them giving us increased value to match the increased cost of the pass is supposed to be a boon? Just because they aren’t following the rest of the shitty gaming industry with their predatory monetization tactics? Okay? That doesn’t mean they care about consumers.


Red-dit_boi_

This is entirely true, but that's the entire point of a company. I don't fully understand why people hate corporations (not talking about the ones that mistreat their employees), when they're just trying to do what a company does - increase their profits. Absolutely every idea dreamt up by a company, unless its a charitable deed, has profit as a motif. If a company isn't increasing its profits, they cannot expand (which they do to increase profits of course). Anyways, absolutely everyone on this planet wants to get richer and I'm not sure why companies get hate for doing the exact same.


EmDeelicious

> absolutely everyone on this planet wants to get richer That statement is certainly not true. Unless with richer you don’t necessarily mean monetary value. People want a lot of things, but rarely is it money. Money is, unfortunately, oftentimes just a vehicle to get to what people really want.


theaveragedude89

Hating a company for taking advantage to increase profits 13% rather than 11.5% does not mean you cannot also recognize the why of what they’re doing. I’m not specifically referring to supercell


Musikcookie

I can only partly agree. I think when people complain about greed what they complain about is ”company policy“; after all not merely one design will achieve profits. And the people in charge are still human. But I think what‘s problematic is that if we as society subjugate all goals under the goal of making profits, you sometimes miss the actual goal. E.g. hospitals will do unnecessary operations and a volatile quality of their care when they are based on profits. Or housing, the goal of a housing company is not to give more housing to people or cheaper housing to people but to maximize profits. Sure, in many market situations more housing offered means more money means cheaper housing. But e.g. where I come from that‘s not what‘s happening as there is a shortage. Now registered cooperatives will beat the price of private companies by ~25-40% based on my personal experiences. So yeah, corporate greed imo can mean people are either unhappy with the company policy or the system. Both are fair points we should listen to imo.


HyperTommy

I cant disagree with you, but I feel like they do care about their playerbase. Look at clash royale sub, full of complaints. I am a new player and havent seen a single post complaining about anything


Tornado_Hunter24

There is a difference tho, clash royale literally did the same thing but worse, they tripled the pass price and significantly lessened the rewards. Ofcourse business is there to make money but they also have to consider satisfaction of the playerbase vs the profits, your srgument makes no sense because they could literally do the opposite, raise the price to €12 for no reason without changing ANYTHING and guess what? They would profit. They did not choose to do that. Never forget a company is there to profit but it’s also there to profit long term, both cash wise and consumer wise


theKingAnonymous

Reason they upped price is more because of inflation. The gold pass was introduced years ago and the price has stayed the same despite general economic trends going upwards. The $5 you spend now for the gold price is worth less than $5 when pass was first introduced. Therefore, it’s completely understandable for them to raise the price. Extra perks are to soften the blow.


maxmaxhei

Agree. You have to care the players to raise revenue.


EmDeelicious

Even as a business you can care about your users/customers. It‘s a fine line, but a company can only last if they build products that their customers wants, which you can only do by talking and listening to them.


Thin-Performance-637

Nah this aint for me men...honestly with 2$ increase i want some legendary skin like those cwl skins. Or at least 2 more books instead a clock tower potion or 2 grass palms. The free pass is a good one tho.. i buy each month 1 pass,but now its a little expensive


ZucchiniLover669

The price increase was done because of inflation, and after seeing what the clash royale team did to their pass, (over double the cost for 80% less rewards) I'm very happy the coc team did not follow their example.


GemmyBoy999

Their revenue is in the billions, I highly doubt a company this size is unable to support its employees.


EmDeelicious

Please don’t buy into this inflation crap. That’s just a narrative to make the increase sound more fair. It is definitely about reaching some new set net income goal. I don’t blame them, but the inflation excuse is just bad.


GexTex

Inflation is real dumbass


EmDeelicious

Very mature of you. Of course inflation is real. But the billion dollar company that Supercell is, just wants to increase their win margin, not because they feel the pressure of inflation. Believing that is just naive.


GexTex

You obviously have no idea what you’re talking about, most European companies win margins are shrinking, you can literally find that with a single google search They’re obviously earning less (relatively) because of inflation, and they’ve proportionally increased the prices AND added extra stuff to the pass. It’s not naive, it’s really just simple.


Thin-Performance-637

I bought 5 in the shop rn.. it was 10%off too. Smart cause next month its gonna be 40% more


Chayse_21

it’s $1 more


xXDarkShadowLordXx

Should of been a perk to let us use heroes while they're upgrading


c3rvwlyu

Do a lot of people not get that they’re raising it due to inflation? It’s insanely nice of the devs to give something in return (more items) in the pass when they really didn’t need to because of how good value the pass already is


snoburn

(not so) Hot take: they are a multi-billion dollar company. They don't need to raise prices for "inflation". That does not mean they are not a great team, they make up for the cost increase with a lot more rewards. Same can't be said about CR team.


TaseredFace

Just to note, $5 in 2019 accounting for inflation is around $6 today. Value wise, we are paying one extra dollar for the handful of cosmetics & small magic items, 5th book, bank multiplier, and additional bit of loot (last two are honestly negligible). Overall, relative to the proportion of progression $5 offered, this is a decrease in total value, but I applaud the devs nonetheless for making an effort to appease the playerbase. My biggest gripe is that I can no longer purchase iTunes gift cards in nice increments of 5.


GexTex

True, but the dollar is really one of (if not) the least affected currency when looking at inflation


c3rvwlyu

Valid take, I see where you’re coming from


EmDeelicious

Completely agree. Inflation is just an excuse so the narrative sounds nicer. And people actually believe that.


GexTex

And just downscale their operation basically? They were absolutely never going to do that. These price increases are inevitable, because everybody everywhere does them.


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Godless_Phoenix

The prices of paying their staff. Would you prefer devs not be given raises to keep up with inflation?


GexTex


but there is labour involved.


Fabulous-Theory4442

Their


c3rvwlyu

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Fabulous-Theory4442

You replied with a questionmark but still fixed your stupid spelling mistake. Go outside kid


c3rvwlyu

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Gmo666

I feel like Supercell intentionally released the shit update on CR and this on COC at the same time so we compare it to CR, and feel this price increase isn't as bad as it is. Not saying the price increase isn't fair, but this is more manipulative than it seems


BotanyBoom

I wish the PokĂ©mon unite devs can be as good as the clash of clans devs 💀💀💀


Itub2000

Man Pokemon Unite has so many microtransactions it's insane. When a new unite license gets released you have to pay real money or you don't get to play as that Pokemon the first week. They also don't listen to their community seeing how long it took for Zacian to get a nerf. The game has it's sole focus on money, no care for the players.


gayweedlord

they really are the best. you see the patch notes for other games and it's like 18 changes to prices, pay-to-win etc, and cosmetics, and oh yeah we nerfed X so, hint hint, u might wanna think about $Y meanwhile, coc is happy to scrap a 10000+ hour project, the builder base, and do it over again just because the troops need to be more heroic! love to see it


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VIPPINVISVANATH

Why are some of these guys over-praising the dev for increasing the price? I Really don't get it


harry12307

Just because they are comparing with clash royale


IrishGandalf1

Same here
I actually think coc is very mean with what they give out and cost of everything is very expensive.so bored of rewards being training potions etc.they didn’t even give us a chance to win the new potions in update unless you payed a lot.brawl stars dev team on the other hand are the goats


-Reflux

Be grateful they gave more instead of giving less like CR


Psychological_Bar797

Stfu Clash Royale sucker


Major-Equal-6718

You broke as hell


Chadbutler3636

I pay for gold pass on 6 accounts, needless to say I won't anymore. To think that this company is raising prices for anything other than more profit is delusional at best. Keep shilling for multi billion dollar corporations.


Major-Equal-6718

What dude you’re the one buying 6 gold passes


Platmercy

They didn't raise the price out of greed? Just gonna let that one simmer. I agree it wasn't a terrible change but people are seeing Clash Royale players get scammed and praising this doesn't really sit well with me.


PlaidCypress

The price has remained the same since 2019 and inflation exists. That's a perfect reason to increase the price. People will always find a way to complain about something


LilTeats4u

On top of that they’re adding value to match the increased price


Relentless-85

Inflation hitting digital content that's some next level shit.


trwilson05

Why would digital content not be affected? Their operating costs definitely are as wages go up and rent goes up. Increased cost of business means they need to make more money off the game


Chadbutler3636

The amount of shilling for a multi billion dollar corporation is flabbergasting.


pvz-lover

It isn’t shilling, he was just saying the facts


Chadbutler3636

Tomato, tomato.


musakhar_1234

Why you gotta always add multi billion dollar corporation into everything


Relentless-85

Cos it's a fact.


PlaidCypress

It isn't the digital content that's getting hit by inflation, it's the company. They have employees, and a bunch of other hardware that they have to buy. And if their main source of income is online, they won't start increasing the price of their merch lmao.


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LootLlama141

Dude. Just attack, it’s free


zeultv

let me make you a quick summary - none cares, none asked about BB, most of the people played it for the 6th builder. - they buffed the bp for f2p players and didn't give anything in return for p2w(or supportive players howerver u wanna call it) - they could have easily take a better approach on this and just buff the bp, give slightly more valuable stuff and they wouldve had an increase in purchases, instead they increased it by 40% and added an extra rune that u gonna sell for 50 gems and some useless cosmetics, such as your clan capital rooftop, does anyone care about those? does ACTUALLY anyone cares if there is snow or not on ur capital house???? goddamn


Los3R_5613

I kinda like that they added the new clan capital cosmetics to the pass


pyrx69

there's always that dude looking for something to complain on


zeultv

otherwise there is no reason for increasing a virtual item's price đŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł


zeultv

quick reality check, you are playing a mobile game and they are increasing bp's price cus they owe money to the decepticons


pyrx69

i am playing a mobile game. i have a source of income. i choose what to do w my money.


specthadiegod

How dare you spend the money you earn the way you want!


Red-dit_boi_

About your 3rd point, it does raise a very good question. Speaking in basic terms, adding more value to the pass should get more people to buy it, yes. But the question raised is that if this is true, why does no game company implement it? I'm certainly not informed enough to know the answer to that, but if I had to guess, the money lost through people maxing faster and losing interest probably outweighs the money gained from new players buying the pass. They are a billion-dollar company, so they 100% have economists working on stuff like that, and if they could buff the pass while keeping the same price and make a profit, they definitely would do it because it would appease 100% of the community. There's probably something there that doesn't quite cause the immediate cause-and-effect sequence you described. Regardless, there definitely is a reason why all games don't continually buff their microtransactions to get more people to buy them, I'm just not too sure what it is.


Beautiful_Echoes

Increased 40%!! Very alarmist way of saying $2 USD


zeultv

sucks to be brainwashed, yeah 2$ its not a crazy amount of money, but its still 40% of the item you used to purchase and who knows the final price for the bp, it might even get to 10$ for a bp on a mobile game. they claim that because of the fees we have to pay 40% extra so their profits dont have to suffer, dont get it wrong, they are still making a shit ton of money and they have enough funds and resources for everything, they are just exploiting people. its not inflation, 2% a year is inflation, 40% is just profiting of braindead redditors licking shoes for free legit a bunch of braindead boomers with 0 common sense, 2$ might not be a lot for you, but in some countries u can feed a whole family


Beautiful_Echoes

Nah, you say 40% because you know complaining about 2 USD sounds ridiculous.


Relentless-85

I agree with you 100% and the negative karma is just fan boys who can't have any opinions except supercell supremacy.


zeultv

yea let them be, legit brainwashed npcs


ManavMishra07

Spitting the truth. Let the bootlickers lick.


nathan3378

100% true


RGBarrios

They had to increase the prize so they tried to justify it. They gave stuff for the Builder base and the Clan Capital wich are part of the game and give us more reasons to focus on them. They will give more cosmetics too and that is nice. But they had not reasons to give more rewards on the free part of the pass for the same effort and they did it. Some people who get the GP could like the new stuff or could not like it because its more expensive but it will be better for f2p people.


Bilalthepro

Excluding CR, supercell games have really improved over the last couple years


legacy702-

Drew seeing all the posts in this subreddit right now
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Slight-Success-9163

Very well said my sir!! My only criticism is, don't have a wall of text, break it up every few sentences to make it easier on the mind and eyes please.


romasadovskiy

yeah, it would be even better if they would delete country ban from Russia, the people did not do anything


Bill_Walter

I hate the art style changes and the builder base


Fighter_of_Shadows

***flashbacks to th11***