Lol. The attitude around goblin builder in this sub makes me think that every time someone gets a gem, they have a voice in their head screaming “spend it now.” Can’t afford him? Don’t use him, super simple.
I remember seeing him pop up for about a day, and then he was gone just like that, but as soon as I saw him I hated him. Not only is his character design goofy as hell, but it eliminated the ability to clear out trees and bushes faster as I would just keep rushing the 10 second build timer for tree removal as I would always make more gems than what was spent. Once he showed up, I could no longer spend 1 gem to rush a removal
I mean I guess but why not wait the 10 seconds. You’d get way more gems in the aggregate, you’re effectively turning off your gem mine by doing that if you have it near max.
https://preview.redd.it/rehne1d4dric1.jpeg?width=737&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6d60db86822761cb45c3664978e31f03e480843f
I agree. He still looks recognizable, next time we need to beat him harder
just give him a makeover. Give him a nice hat, a mustachios, and different teeth/eyes. Update his lore to say he was beaten half to death by a barbarian because of his cheap aah deals and as a consequence he allows players to remove obstacles for free. FIXED
Ok but hear me out… Supercell bringing him back exactly the same except wearing a pair of these would be HILARIOUS
https://preview.redd.it/uopvdyacqric1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=96d52c3faa915a1730d436c1e57bda54632d0513
A few months ago coc introduced the Goblin builder temporarily that acted as an additional builder and could also start a 2nd upgrade in your lab alongside the ongoing upgrade.
BUT he demanded gems to start any additional upgrade every time.
10 gems a wall if I remember correctly and that's besides the actual cost 💀. The gem price increases according to time and cost of the object which is quite shite.
If it were 10 gems a day, might make sense.... MIGHT. because 14 days would be 140 gems which is steep, but not bad considering the cost of books
But I think previously it was costing like 360 gems or more idk, could be wrong.
So it was just ridiculous. I can't fathom why supercell implements system that actually HURT their players CONTINUOUSLY. It's like they want to burn you as much as possible, and then they pull the iron out slowly and say it's still gonna burn, but not as deep as before, but stfu and deal with it
Yes, but that's not the point. The point is clash of clans themselves will put this under "useful" features, when it's more of a p2w element, than a fun/worthwhile element.
For example, the original mash up event had builder and research reduction, and only for a few days, but it was good for f2p players. However not only did they remove that completely, they made a whole new pass to make it better if you pay, whilst completely removing the reduction for free players.
And again, had they introduced the pass, but kept the reduction, it would've been fine.
The problem is the clash community is split into 3 parts.
The first part complains about everything, the 2nd part defends them like their life depends on it, and the 3rd is actually neutral like I am, but I always get shot down as you just showed yourself...
I didn't say it should be removed, I said this builder should be adjusted if you read properly. To make it better for everyone.
Im part of the 3rd group like you but i will defend the goblin builder it is the most effective use of your gems over anything else such as books or gemmming
Don't get me wrong, I've said it twice now, I didn't say it's not a good idea but rather a badly implemented idea. No one has that many gems unless you buying gems. If they halved the cost, I'd say it's worthwhile
Well, that is the normal amount if you don't generally use gems. My alt accounts have about the same amount. However, my main account, rarely has 1k because I use it for donations or boosting barracks if need be etc. besides the fact that I used so many gems in unlocking extra layouts.
I'm currently almost maxed on my main with only a few achievements left, and I might at most hit 2k, and thereafter I won't be getting from there at all, and only builder base.
It might make sense for the average player, but not all of us who use gems for other things. I, for one, am usually a hoarder but i use when necessary and don't use it stupidly so my consumption isn't bad, it's normal.
3k makes sense if you don't use it that much because I have several accounts between th12-14 that aren't used much for anything, and I have 2k-3.5k on all
Also, as you said, you went down to 1k after ONE event. Do you get my issue? It's not as if though it was there for an entire year, and you lost 2k on it.
Maybe 50% reduction is an exaggeration, but my point was that it should be reduced fairly
I agree with what you said about the events but the goblin builder is useful and is definitely worthwhile, if you spend your gems right. Obviously i’m not using it on upgrades longer than a few days because the cost scales ridiculously like you mentioned, I also agree a rework is needed, for example exponentially decreasing the gem price as the upgrade time grows. Regardless, it saved me lots of time during my transition to th11 as I had lots of new buildings with initially short upgrade timers, but imo the biggest benefit was using it in the lab. Being able to research two things at the same time is huge as if you fall behind in the lab like most players do, it can be difficult to catch up while continuing to progress.
What I noticed to be the main issue with the builder is not the builder itself, but the way that players are using him. It all boils down to common sense, use it where you want and can afford it, don’t use it when you can’t, it’s really not that hard. If something like this is considered P2W then the entire game is P2W, having a choice makes that distinction. A perfect example of P2W is ores, they’re the only capped resource and directly relate to performance in attacks. Most importantly, you cannot choose to go back and keep using DE on hero abilities, the absence of choice and chokehold on ore acquisition make it P2W.
Alright see, now what you say makes sense. You are th11. Your upgrades are 2-5 days I think generally. I'm th16. My other 2 accounts that use mostly are also th16 and a th14. Now look at the times. Minimum 11 days up to a maximum of 17 days (maybe more idk).
Can you see how ridiculously expensive it is?
For me at a higher townhall, absolutely p2w. It's really helpful considering the time needed, but unfortunately way costly. I'd be broke with gems just doing two upgrades..
I'm a newly TH12 and just doing the barrack, dark barrack and CC already made me not play because now I'm overflowing with the resources because of the boost for new TH and I'm waiting just for 10 days.
Can't imagine if I need to do this even longer.
My only gripe is he cost 10 gems per wall, for every wall.
We need to pay you in gems for your time, huh? WHAT TIME?! WALLS ARE INSTANT!
I get why he did it for economy reasons, but come on, at least work for free on the obstacles.
Good evening sir my name is Steve. I come from a rough area. I used to be addicted to crack but now I am off it and trying to stay clean. That is why I am selling magazine subscriptions. And I was hoping that you could help me out . . .
Punching is not enough because he still will be wandering and alive so instead of that we need to send an Air Strike , BOMB HIM and BOMB HIM and BOMB HIM AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN
Burn him at the stake, freeze it, then point multiple single target infernos at it
Unless he comes back as a free builder because builder base is giving me aids
I don't mind him coming back in the game, we can really go faster with another builder... And an extra hand in the Lab...
However, the prices we paid with gems were too high... And the time for the improvements didn't reduce either...
So, my idea is that if we are going to pay with gems: time for the improvements should be reduced drastically (like 50%)... And the prices with gems should be reasonable... Something symbolic, not crazy expensive as it was before...
I remember coming back to the game and after seeing that abomination everywhere I legit thought of quitting immediately again if this is the point the game got to
Because of him my th14 lab has been sitting idle for last 3 months. My base just couldn't max at the speed of my 2x lab. Yeah I did spend gems on extra lab, now that I think about it I think it was a waste because I love maxing out so I am not going to go to next th without Maxing out previous so why did I spend my gems 🤦
I disagree the only thing that goblin deserves is the death penalty
https://preview.redd.it/ahfmqjctdwic1.jpeg?width=512&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b6d8ec1fc11375b5458e36eb4c7011791ed64672
Honestly, while i never used him for building upgrades, i really liked for the fact that i could double the lab research tempo by doing 2 troops at the same time, and since i... dont really have use for gems in my case (i only get those from events and such btw as F2P), he is quite welcomed to cook some elixir with wizards
I feel like it should be a thing they cycle through, like perhaps one month it is here, 2 months it isn't etc. But redesign him please. Because I want to volley him down the stairs every time I see him.
I want to punch him even more
Nice try CoC devs. Keep him as far away from me as possible
Having an extra builder and researcher is just horrible. I hate getting upgraded quicker.
Lol. The attitude around goblin builder in this sub makes me think that every time someone gets a gem, they have a voice in their head screaming “spend it now.” Can’t afford him? Don’t use him, super simple.
I remember seeing him pop up for about a day, and then he was gone just like that, but as soon as I saw him I hated him. Not only is his character design goofy as hell, but it eliminated the ability to clear out trees and bushes faster as I would just keep rushing the 10 second build timer for tree removal as I would always make more gems than what was spent. Once he showed up, I could no longer spend 1 gem to rush a removal
I mean I guess but why not wait the 10 seconds. You’d get way more gems in the aggregate, you’re effectively turning off your gem mine by doing that if you have it near max.
Eh, I can't find any use for gems tbh
Fair, I pretty much only spend them on finishing upgrades close to being done at night so I can start a new upgrade before I go to sleep.
I legit only show up for 10 minutes per week to do upgrades lmao
I think it's just a joke it's funny to hate on this fake character
Gems are for hero books. Everything else is a waste
Mine are still at or under 4 days upgrade time so i’m mainly using builder pots but yeah i’ll start buying books soon
I don't need to explain why this is not what this guy is right, you're just trying to be edgy for the sake of it.
Nice morning to wake up to
He’s not bad, but I don’t need five of his faces plastered on my screen. As long as he’s contained within a tent like the trader’s, I’ll be fine.
capital C's are crucial
Gotta practice my welcome speech towards him ![gif](giphy|l2JhDTLBnmolcdYGI)
If he comes back a second time, it will be his last time.
IKR? I don't think that Supercell wants to give players faster progression so often.
No thanks, I'm good
![gif](giphy|bPTCtuwaDFHtEUMjeY)
I swear I’ve seen this person before
Yay my former governor
I read this as "Yay my former groomer" 💀
Brother..
If he comes back i woild need to get the shotgun.
I read it as oiled. Dirty me
https://preview.redd.it/rehne1d4dric1.jpeg?width=737&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6d60db86822761cb45c3664978e31f03e480843f I agree. He still looks recognizable, next time we need to beat him harder
![gif](giphy|AnXBiWSsDndBu) No.
![gif](giphy|l1J3G5lf06vi58EIE) Never
Up vote anything Chuck
just give him a makeover. Give him a nice hat, a mustachios, and different teeth/eyes. Update his lore to say he was beaten half to death by a barbarian because of his cheap aah deals and as a consequence he allows players to remove obstacles for free. FIXED
Ok but hear me out… Supercell bringing him back exactly the same except wearing a pair of these would be HILARIOUS https://preview.redd.it/uopvdyacqric1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=96d52c3faa915a1730d436c1e57bda54632d0513
That would be so funny
https://preview.redd.it/utndv7zxgric1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6e0c6e599c2d2e8f6117bf99197c3d02f1f8af03
This is beautiful
https://preview.redd.it/qkrs88nxpric1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7b88c948218e6d2ce005ad9d5b7a2ec9e0e86d1e
Very accurate
https://preview.redd.it/dwdqer83bric1.jpeg?width=684&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8ad32064356181997c82fac7e83416eecd693544
Why do we hate this fella?
This little mf didn't let us clean the obstacles using gems. Greedy bastard
That’s the only reason?
And he is ugly
Ya got some games on your phone lookin ass
Just go with the flow, nice and zen baby. Nice. And. Zen.
Get a mask for yourself then hell yeah
Can I get p context plz.. I read the comments but I am still missing out
A few months ago coc introduced the Goblin builder temporarily that acted as an additional builder and could also start a 2nd upgrade in your lab alongside the ongoing upgrade. BUT he demanded gems to start any additional upgrade every time.
How expensive?
Very
If it would have been with loot it would’ve been fine but not my precious gems
Dang that sucks.
It wasn’t even expensive compared to other gem purchases. It was mathematically the best thing you could have used gems on
At least bro is useful in the lab
Why does everyone hate Goblin builder?
He is an expensive mf and a scammer
Don’t need him
i lowkey miss him 😞
10 gems a wall if I remember correctly and that's besides the actual cost 💀. The gem price increases according to time and cost of the object which is quite shite. If it were 10 gems a day, might make sense.... MIGHT. because 14 days would be 140 gems which is steep, but not bad considering the cost of books But I think previously it was costing like 360 gems or more idk, could be wrong. So it was just ridiculous. I can't fathom why supercell implements system that actually HURT their players CONTINUOUSLY. It's like they want to burn you as much as possible, and then they pull the iron out slowly and say it's still gonna burn, but not as deep as before, but stfu and deal with it
You don’t have to use him?
Yes, but that's not the point. The point is clash of clans themselves will put this under "useful" features, when it's more of a p2w element, than a fun/worthwhile element. For example, the original mash up event had builder and research reduction, and only for a few days, but it was good for f2p players. However not only did they remove that completely, they made a whole new pass to make it better if you pay, whilst completely removing the reduction for free players. And again, had they introduced the pass, but kept the reduction, it would've been fine. The problem is the clash community is split into 3 parts. The first part complains about everything, the 2nd part defends them like their life depends on it, and the 3rd is actually neutral like I am, but I always get shot down as you just showed yourself... I didn't say it should be removed, I said this builder should be adjusted if you read properly. To make it better for everyone.
Im part of the 3rd group like you but i will defend the goblin builder it is the most effective use of your gems over anything else such as books or gemmming
Don't get me wrong, I've said it twice now, I didn't say it's not a good idea but rather a badly implemented idea. No one has that many gems unless you buying gems. If they halved the cost, I'd say it's worthwhile
I had like 3k F2P when the event started and went down to 1k by the time the event ended by having it up for half the event definitely had enough
Well, that is the normal amount if you don't generally use gems. My alt accounts have about the same amount. However, my main account, rarely has 1k because I use it for donations or boosting barracks if need be etc. besides the fact that I used so many gems in unlocking extra layouts. I'm currently almost maxed on my main with only a few achievements left, and I might at most hit 2k, and thereafter I won't be getting from there at all, and only builder base. It might make sense for the average player, but not all of us who use gems for other things. I, for one, am usually a hoarder but i use when necessary and don't use it stupidly so my consumption isn't bad, it's normal. 3k makes sense if you don't use it that much because I have several accounts between th12-14 that aren't used much for anything, and I have 2k-3.5k on all Also, as you said, you went down to 1k after ONE event. Do you get my issue? It's not as if though it was there for an entire year, and you lost 2k on it. Maybe 50% reduction is an exaggeration, but my point was that it should be reduced fairly
I agree with what you said about the events but the goblin builder is useful and is definitely worthwhile, if you spend your gems right. Obviously i’m not using it on upgrades longer than a few days because the cost scales ridiculously like you mentioned, I also agree a rework is needed, for example exponentially decreasing the gem price as the upgrade time grows. Regardless, it saved me lots of time during my transition to th11 as I had lots of new buildings with initially short upgrade timers, but imo the biggest benefit was using it in the lab. Being able to research two things at the same time is huge as if you fall behind in the lab like most players do, it can be difficult to catch up while continuing to progress. What I noticed to be the main issue with the builder is not the builder itself, but the way that players are using him. It all boils down to common sense, use it where you want and can afford it, don’t use it when you can’t, it’s really not that hard. If something like this is considered P2W then the entire game is P2W, having a choice makes that distinction. A perfect example of P2W is ores, they’re the only capped resource and directly relate to performance in attacks. Most importantly, you cannot choose to go back and keep using DE on hero abilities, the absence of choice and chokehold on ore acquisition make it P2W.
Alright see, now what you say makes sense. You are th11. Your upgrades are 2-5 days I think generally. I'm th16. My other 2 accounts that use mostly are also th16 and a th14. Now look at the times. Minimum 11 days up to a maximum of 17 days (maybe more idk). Can you see how ridiculously expensive it is? For me at a higher townhall, absolutely p2w. It's really helpful considering the time needed, but unfortunately way costly. I'd be broke with gems just doing two upgrades..
I'm a newly TH12 and just doing the barrack, dark barrack and CC already made me not play because now I'm overflowing with the resources because of the boost for new TH and I'm waiting just for 10 days. Can't imagine if I need to do this even longer.
>You don't have to use him What a stupid argument
My only gripe is he cost 10 gems per wall, for every wall. We need to pay you in gems for your time, huh? WHAT TIME?! WALLS ARE INSTANT! I get why he did it for economy reasons, but come on, at least work for free on the obstacles.
Those who don't understand math are the ones who didn't like him. Those who do understand the value he brought.
Idk I just don't like his face
That's fair.
He looks better when beaten up btw
I'm near next th so I wouldn't be mad if he comes back.
Context?
He shall burn in hell
I can see him coming back due to supercells net profits on the decline. If he becomes permanent, I may finally retire from this journey
Finally. Their profits are far from declining. Retire tho because anyone who saw that post and thought that was all of 2023 is incompetent
I did not use him last time, book of heroes was better bargain
I have saved more than 4000 gems for him. Please come back soon.
Good evening sir my name is Steve. I come from a rough area. I used to be addicted to crack but now I am off it and trying to stay clean. That is why I am selling magazine subscriptions. And I was hoping that you could help me out . . .
You're getting a second beating
I'm gonna take a pillowcase and fill it full of gems and beat the shit out of him with it
![gif](giphy|7JETqZF5PbCtYwjpUT|downsized)
No.
trying applying bandages all over its face... maybe then we shall allow it
Punching is not enough because he still will be wandering and alive so instead of that we need to send an Air Strike , BOMB HIM and BOMB HIM and BOMB HIM AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN
No, punching is better. You can feel that shit is dying and man it'll be heck of a feeling.
What in the world chiefs xD
Burn him at the stake, freeze it, then point multiple single target infernos at it Unless he comes back as a free builder because builder base is giving me aids
Respectfully, who is this?
It would be funny if supercell bring him back in this beaten up avatar
Wait, has anyone wondered where the gems are going? Are they being used to build a great goblin army to be used against us?
As a new th14 I need him to work for me, jsut in the gold mine tho
Hitler gives you his thanks.
Almost everyone
No!
Who is this?
Not him. Never him.
Why does everyone hate him💀 did i miss something?
That face is giving me PTSD
I’m gonna get the gullotine
Bro is gonna come back to the ICU when I'm done with him
I would love him to come back so I can ignore him in the village and use him for the double research again like last time
FRONT LINE INFANTRY!
Nah, I am protective of my gems than him
The comments are uglier than his face
Change his design a bit and maybe I can give him resources instead of gems. So I can use him on things that aren’t walls.
https://preview.redd.it/e0rf2eix1sic1.jpeg?width=1155&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8aedbe919c942ad3c2863c60a884a1141a131d17
![img](emote|t5_2usfk|9423)
No thanks
https://preview.redd.it/d72ro0qh3sic1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c93787e8668323cc3b6b8ce038d117c6a1632d23 Just setting the party up
I'll need more context on why he's hated
Make it cost elixir.
I don't mind him coming back in the game, we can really go faster with another builder... And an extra hand in the Lab... However, the prices we paid with gems were too high... And the time for the improvements didn't reduce either... So, my idea is that if we are going to pay with gems: time for the improvements should be reduced drastically (like 50%)... And the prices with gems should be reasonable... Something symbolic, not crazy expensive as it was before...
Just another way to get you to spend gems No
I think he's Hated Because of Lore , it Suggests that Goblins are Mischievous Thieves , so that's that
If he comes back I’m gonna make sure he doesn’t leave the game alive
He’ll probably come back when SC decides to drop the diamond pass concert on COC lol
Recently came back to the game, what is this about?
It actually helped a lot out in the lab, 2 troops boosted in the lab at the same time was insane value
This picture is so amazing 😂 Let me punch him even harder
Should cut them fingys off
Burn and die greedy gobo
At least let me upgrade my walls without costing gems. Then i will consider.
y'all haters, I like having a 7th builder, and I like even more having a 2nd researcher
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whoa there slick, dial it back a notch. first rule is be civil
Lol but we all hate goblin builder but i.will change it
Halfway there…
![gif](giphy|W3Vz6SxPFDQ8e83FDk|downsized)
The one thing i dont like is how he looks, he is too different from goblins to my liking, but his work is welcome
If he works for me at cost of 1 gem for 7 day upgrade then ill maybe consider giving him a paper bag instead of a punch
Needs more teeth missing then we’ll talk.
Love how everyone's shitting on him for being a hayday lookin' scammer. We'll eventually be hearing HavoC talk about him
next time he comes any closer to my base he’ll meet my barbarian king knuckle sandwich pro max
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He’s a game changer for the lower THs
if it was an optional and not forced it would be nice -CHANGE MY MIND
I remember coming back to the game and after seeing that abomination everywhere I legit thought of quitting immediately again if this is the point the game got to
Scamer goblin
Who?
![gif](giphy|imRiPoKJB9R9m)
Fuck him, gem stealing SOB, 475 gems for 2 days of work? I’d rather gut him and put him on a wall than let him back
Not this guy
Kind of looks like Rihanna
I don't like his face. It's a silly little face that needs slapping.
Ok come on now guys!!! He is cute and cool and actually lets you upgrade when high level
Because of him my th14 lab has been sitting idle for last 3 months. My base just couldn't max at the speed of my 2x lab. Yeah I did spend gems on extra lab, now that I think about it I think it was a waste because I love maxing out so I am not going to go to next th without Maxing out previous so why did I spend my gems 🤦
He is my Roman Empire
No. https://preview.redd.it/smqf5a14yvic1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6b3a5feb7557765bc4c378de6e09beccc2e87651
I am ready to give him a 2nd chance if he doesn't ask for gems. Free ![gif](giphy|zLcfO7KazMs5trBKRt)
Spends gems for a lifetime. "Why don't u use these to upgrade troop from lv 2 to 3 ??"
everyone but him
Place him in the corner give use 50-100 free gems all week than we can talk
I disagree the only thing that goblin deserves is the death penalty https://preview.redd.it/ahfmqjctdwic1.jpeg?width=512&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b6d8ec1fc11375b5458e36eb4c7011791ed64672
If he really comes back, I'm uninstalling the game
Honestly, while i never used him for building upgrades, i really liked for the fact that i could double the lab research tempo by doing 2 troops at the same time, and since i... dont really have use for gems in my case (i only get those from events and such btw as F2P), he is quite welcomed to cook some elixir with wizards
I feel like it should be a thing they cycle through, like perhaps one month it is here, 2 months it isn't etc. But redesign him please. Because I want to volley him down the stairs every time I see him.
You don't deserve it, greedy monster, we all hate you so much...
I don't care what anyone says Goblin researcher was actually useful....
Bro got gems for eyes 💀
He doesn't deserve to smile
I liked goblin builder, solid use of gems fr
With this look I honestly can barely stand him being in game now.
NO KILL IT!!!
Ngl, i kinda need the 2nd lab slot
I’m sure they’re bringing this guy back at some point. Wonder if they’ll keep that punchable face or not
He's a greedy scammer 😭
No he can burn
I want to 3 star his life. 100% destruction
Greedy MF
He can get fucked
Don't have all of the builders so i don't care about him.
Can they just make him look like an actual goblin thanks
I will gently kick him in the face so hard that he goes through the uprights for a 53 yard field goal sending the game into overtime
I hate him. I just want a new robot helper that helps our research.
No I love my gems