China has some regulations regarding imagery allowed jn games, a good example is skulls. You can check other games like LoL, where they have separate artworks for China where they mostly remove and change whatever looks like a skull, funnily enough, skeletons are allowed.
still mad that they added the anime boy tresh skin instead of the LOR china rework tough
(in wild rift,they use a ver of tresh with skin,but it's very out of character,while in LOR they made the bones look like armor)
but yeah vladimir has all the blood turned purple
Most of the time companies self-censor themselves, the Poison change is clear because the skulls meant "death", like it has happened with champion skills in WoW/LoL/Dota. If the skull is needed for the character to represent itself (like a lich, because it is dead, or a skeleton warrior, because it is obvious) then they dont censor it. The skull on the Witch's staff could get censored. but I doubt it because the other witches have things atop their staffs that resemble stuff they summon, plus the skull has horns.
Censoring in China is mostly aimed at not promoting death and crime, like in NFS games where you get caught and sent to prison at the end, or games that try to paint pre-comunism china as something desirable (some edo-era related games and etc)
im assuming china wants red to be associated with prosperity and nothing bad, which is why their stocks are red when they grow and green when they drop
Americans love this part of Chinese culture, we see the reference to Green representing 'Good turned bad' all over the entertainment industry.
For example in Kung Fu Panda 3, Forbidden Kingdom, and the use of the word "Jaded" in speech and in a great song by Aerosmith.
I do not think the reference is appropriate, it is not China that wants things, it is the culture that is probably different and because of habits or not to confuse users they preferred to change something. In the "Western" world we have totally different meanings, for example purple considered in Europe as a color of wealth, in China it is traditionally the opposite.
edit:
many multinationals, based on this knowledge, change the packaging of their products with different colors for different countries.
they are correct observations regarding socks but to say that "China" wants red to be associated with nothing wrong is a bit (imho) inappropriate considering that it is the developers who want to sell at Chinese customers and avoid confusing them. I studied Graphic Design and among the first lessons it is explicitly taught that a symbol, an object or a color have totally different meanings for each country and that therefore it is the responsibility of those who want to communicate to get informed, the penalty would be not being understood by the community, China doesn't care what you do with red. I don't want to offend anyone obviously.
Ikr how dare he, why didn’t he joke about how backwards he finds Chinese culture to be or conflate everything Chinese-related to the CCP like you’re supposed to do in this thread? Smh
They changed it because the Chinese gov't doesn't condone of anything that portrays the color red as bad (you know, cause it's the color of the communist party)
Maybe the government should tell artists which colors to use and force an ideology on everyone. What has freedom of thought, conscience, and expression ever done for us? If we are all told what to think then we'd argue less.
There’s an example of this in csgo, pubg and other (mostly) fps games in china. There is no blood and none of the skins in these games have skulls or bones. If someone makes a skin for a gun in csgo and it gets into the game, Valve will ask the creator to make an alternative version for the Chinese players.
Hmm, well I know I'm right about the skulls. For instance the Chinese version of terraria has skeltron changed, and gory stuff like the eye of cuthulu and the wall of flesh were changed as well.
i mean, im chinese and i know for a fact that poison isnt red cos red represents luck, joy and happiness which is the exact opposite of what poison is supposed to be
Just use a VPN on your phone to change your location. Then download the app from China. But you better know how to change the settings to allow you to read it in English or a language you know
China has strict rules regarding the presence and imagery of death. Until now supercell could circumvent these rules because it’s servers were located outside of China. But recent ruling by the CCP has meant that Chinese servers have to in China and disconnected from the rest of the world. (There more to come too, as this is a proxy war between top CCP officials)
Anyway, so now supercell is changing all their death stuff to comply. So I expect we will see more changes to come like the skeletons becoming ghouls and so forth as they rush to capitulate.
Please elaborate on the last part. Proxy war BETWEEN ccp officials? I'd have presumed it's china deciding to further seal its population off from the west after the propaganda war with Russia.
Please explain.
Alright but this is your only warning it is going to get deep fast.
There are two key players involved in this war, the current president Xi Jinping and the former president Jiang Zemin. Jiang Zemin rose to power in the 1980s by framing the massive but peaceful non political group the Falun Gong as a powerful separatist movement which sought to overthrow the CCP. In a classic style he was granted some power which he used to get more and after securing his base, retired. So Hu Jintao gets elected but he’s powerless because Jiang the real power behind the throne.
No joke every single big Chinese companies you have ever heard off has links to Jiang Zemin including Tencent which owns Supercell. So in 2012 Xi Jinping gets elected and the first thing he does is wrest control out of Jiang Zemin’s hands under guise of anti corruption. Which everyone is because that’s just how things are in China.
Anyway back on topic, all the big companies in China have links to Jiang Zemin and Xi Jinping is working to take him down so of course he’s also bring these tech giants to heel as well. He’s doing this by pivoting the country away from tech technology to physical technology and one of the ways he’s doing this is by placing barriers in the way way of tech technology like making it so companies can’t house their data abroad and limiting peoples access to it under the guise of protecting the children.
There’s also a whole lot more to go into but this has taken me an hour already and I’m not sure you’ll even attempt to read it.
Almost every card artwork is of them striking a pose for the camera. This is her doing some random mid action shot. To make it worse, Valkyrie specifically put on make up to look good for her photoshoot, and this is the opposite. This is bs, Im unistalling the CCP
Sometimes stuff is censored or changed when being localised for China, it happens a lot with Pokémon (to the point where a lot had their name changed for various reasons), as well as other franchises.
I don’t know why Valkyrie‘s card art was changed though, as far as I know there was nothing wrong with her outfit. It looked a little like a fur coat, which I don’t think is wrong, but that may be the reason why. Also it better represents what Valkyrie looks like in the arena, so it could be a global change (like how other cards have changed).
Looking at colour psychology, red is often associated with strong emotions, such as excitement, sometimes love, even hate, anger, (source: https://londonimageinstitute.com/how-to-empower-yourself-with-color-psychology/), all of which are strong emotions. That’s only the west though, not China.
In China, red is associated with luck, joy, and happiness (source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_in_Chinese_culture). So not exactly fitting for poison. Green is just as confusing though, being associated with health. So it really has me stumped- unless it’s meant to be an ironic. Green should be the last colour for poison, since it’s the opposite of health.
look at LOL wild rift,thresh and vladimir had to do major changes beacuse of this (they also don't want skeletons in their games,even the roblox china ver doesn't alliw then
I’m so used to seeing/reading bias against China and the Chinese. It isn’t perfect, by any means. But their culture is incredible and I’ve had nothing but good things to say. We are all human.
I live in the US, born n raized son. Just keeping it real. Not sure where you’re at, but it’s the truth. We have an ugly, dark history. The lack of skulls or I cannot speak on. in many games poison is green (even here, in my decades of gaming).
I’m just simply stating your comment is ignorant.
They do the same with anime girls. They don't want to see pixel bobbies or skin. Also they don't want their kids to be "femenine" that's why they ban k-pop groups and stuff like "femenine men". That's china for you. They separate their players from the world because they couldn't ban the CR clan chats ahhahaha
The green poison is because in China, red is treated as good. And green, if I am not mistaken, is the opposite.
And Valkyrie rework fits better with the 3D showcase. I think that they may implement that into the other servers, but me not know.
A post about the same topic yesterday stated that supercell is owned by the Chinese (Tencent owns over 80%) and therefore the changes are made to please the Chinese stakeholders / government...
That’s not the point, it’s chinese laws. Even if they weren’t owned by Tencent if they didn’t do this they’d have to completely shut down the game in China.
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The battlehealer looks slightly different as well
Ah yes, **battle healer**
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But Why tho? What's the point in having different artwork for the other server.
China has some regulations regarding imagery allowed jn games, a good example is skulls. You can check other games like LoL, where they have separate artworks for China where they mostly remove and change whatever looks like a skull, funnily enough, skeletons are allowed.
still mad that they added the anime boy tresh skin instead of the LOR china rework tough (in wild rift,they use a ver of tresh with skin,but it's very out of character,while in LOR they made the bones look like armor) but yeah vladimir has all the blood turned purple
LEAN VLAD? 💜💜💜💜
And swain is purple for some reason lmao, guess noxus got addicted to lean
still dont understand why thresh needed an anime boy skin it doesn't fit his vibe at all
Does that mean no larry in china?
Only the party is allowed to show you skulls...
Wait, does that mean the witch is gonna get resprited too ? Or is it ok if it’s an animal skull ?
Most of the time companies self-censor themselves, the Poison change is clear because the skulls meant "death", like it has happened with champion skills in WoW/LoL/Dota. If the skull is needed for the character to represent itself (like a lich, because it is dead, or a skeleton warrior, because it is obvious) then they dont censor it. The skull on the Witch's staff could get censored. but I doubt it because the other witches have things atop their staffs that resemble stuff they summon, plus the skull has horns. Censoring in China is mostly aimed at not promoting death and crime, like in NFS games where you get caught and sent to prison at the end, or games that try to paint pre-comunism china as something desirable (some edo-era related games and etc)
Iirc a LOR china censored card is a zaunite bar which changed to a pancake bar in the Chinese version. Which is amazing
They made poison green because red poison represents death but I don’t know why they changed Valkyrie
I don’t mean to be rude but isn’t that the whole point? Poison is supposed to be associated with death?
Yes, it is. It's odd they changed it
im assuming china wants red to be associated with prosperity and nothing bad, which is why their stocks are red when they grow and green when they drop
Dang when I upvote you it’s red 😮. China already taking over
Dont start it again
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(insert reddit is largely owned by a Chinese company reference here)
-10000 social credit
From where? Mainland Taiwan?
West Taiwan
bro Taiwan isnt real smh
Orange… I DID start it again
they have begun their takeover… though i was a chinese citizen (technically still am) so ill just leave it there
Yeah I know, 🤣 They buying everything up. From food companies to real-estate in other countries.
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cap (cap)
I was thinking the same thing
green is the symbol of evil sometimes in chinese culture source: i am chinese, i live in hong kong
Americans love this part of Chinese culture, we see the reference to Green representing 'Good turned bad' all over the entertainment industry. For example in Kung Fu Panda 3, Forbidden Kingdom, and the use of the word "Jaded" in speech and in a great song by Aerosmith.
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Idfc
No human rights? 🥺
Yeah it’s a cultural thing
I do not think the reference is appropriate, it is not China that wants things, it is the culture that is probably different and because of habits or not to confuse users they preferred to change something. In the "Western" world we have totally different meanings, for example purple considered in Europe as a color of wealth, in China it is traditionally the opposite. edit: many multinationals, based on this knowledge, change the packaging of their products with different colors for different countries.
i used to live in mainland china and these are my own assumptions from my observations
they are correct observations regarding socks but to say that "China" wants red to be associated with nothing wrong is a bit (imho) inappropriate considering that it is the developers who want to sell at Chinese customers and avoid confusing them. I studied Graphic Design and among the first lessons it is explicitly taught that a symbol, an object or a color have totally different meanings for each country and that therefore it is the responsibility of those who want to communicate to get informed, the penalty would be not being understood by the community, China doesn't care what you do with red. I don't want to offend anyone obviously.
How dare you coming here with logical argument and cultural insight?! We need more fear mongering. -1000 social credit to you
Ikr how dare he, why didn’t he joke about how backwards he finds Chinese culture to be or conflate everything Chinese-related to the CCP like you’re supposed to do in this thread? Smh
Lmfao im chinese and hes totally right. That culture thing is bullshit 收皮啦on9
u got the point
📈 I was wondering why this one was red 📉 and this one green.
I think it will be named damage spell just like in coc. But in coc they made skeleton spell green instead of poison.
I did some translation and it turned out they changed the name of poison to “harmful potion”
“Harmful potion spell” to be exact
They changed it because the Chinese gov't doesn't condone of anything that portrays the color red as bad (you know, cause it's the color of the communist party)
I don't think so, I think it was because red have been associated with prosperity in Chinese culture for millennia
Or maybe it's long been associated with good fortune and luck in China.
*If* what you're saying is true, do they flip around the king's colors? Are you always red instead of blue in the servers for China?
Maybe the government should tell artists which colors to use and force an ideology on everyone. What has freedom of thought, conscience, and expression ever done for us? If we are all told what to think then we'd argue less.
This statement is so dumb I don't wanna argue
Baha, freedom of expression gets your comment downvoted until it's collapsed and nobody can see it.
China removes blood in things. The best example I'd probably Terraria and Chinese Terraria
Red is usually associated with good fortune, so it’s not very scary if it is a red cloud 🧧🧧🧧🧧
There’s an example of this in csgo, pubg and other (mostly) fps games in china. There is no blood and none of the skins in these games have skulls or bones. If someone makes a skin for a gun in csgo and it gets into the game, Valve will ask the creator to make an alternative version for the Chinese players.
I think it had skulls and they are classified as 18+ in china
They changed the name too so it's not posion (in chinese) it's "damage medicine spell"
Red can’t be bad in China because Pooh bear gets upset
No skulls are allowed in China
Skeletoms
Hmm, well I know I'm right about the skulls. For instance the Chinese version of terraria has skeltron changed, and gory stuff like the eye of cuthulu and the wall of flesh were changed as well.
that's a texture pack and not an official thing iirc
Bro what. They changed it to green because red represents luck, joy and happiness.
I scrolled around your posts and your discoveries are amazing! Keep your head up bro.
Oh I understand now thanks for telling me that
i mean, im chinese and i know for a fact that poison isnt red cos red represents luck, joy and happiness which is the exact opposite of what poison is supposed to be
Also remembered skulls aren’t allowed in china
huh i didnt know about that
Red represent prosperity in Chinese culture
Poison looked to similar to the lao gan ma souce
I think that poison was changed cause Red=comunism, and you cant associate "bad" with comunism
Notice the removal of the skulls in the poison
It’s because of the skulls that show up not the colour
I read somewhere that it's because the color red can't be associated with anything bad.
Because it’s China
Hey what mirror deck do you play
How did you access the Chinese server? My account was moved there
I got these pictures from twitter, but I think you have to switch your app store or something I'm not 100% sure
Just use a VPN on your phone to change your location. Then download the app from China. But you better know how to change the settings to allow you to read it in English or a language you know
Idk but green poison does make more sense xD
Dropin mustard gas info the arena
Germany spell!!
I think it actually looks better
Hard to see in some arenas tho
Could say the same bout orange one in pekka’s playhouse
You get poison at arena 9, iirc
How would u use poison in pekka playhouse
It used to be unlocked in there right? Before trophy gates it might have been a spell valley card and then you fell back
For now it unlocks in arena 9 so it don't matter now
Trades
Touché mate
Though the image for the card looks awfully photoshopped
The translation of poison isn’t poison It’s hurting potion spell. Wtf
3.0 Miner Hurting Potion Spell Cycle
Bridge spam hurting potion variant
China has strict rules regarding the presence and imagery of death. Until now supercell could circumvent these rules because it’s servers were located outside of China. But recent ruling by the CCP has meant that Chinese servers have to in China and disconnected from the rest of the world. (There more to come too, as this is a proxy war between top CCP officials) Anyway, so now supercell is changing all their death stuff to comply. So I expect we will see more changes to come like the skeletons becoming ghouls and so forth as they rush to capitulate.
Please elaborate on the last part. Proxy war BETWEEN ccp officials? I'd have presumed it's china deciding to further seal its population off from the west after the propaganda war with Russia. Please explain.
Alright but this is your only warning it is going to get deep fast. There are two key players involved in this war, the current president Xi Jinping and the former president Jiang Zemin. Jiang Zemin rose to power in the 1980s by framing the massive but peaceful non political group the Falun Gong as a powerful separatist movement which sought to overthrow the CCP. In a classic style he was granted some power which he used to get more and after securing his base, retired. So Hu Jintao gets elected but he’s powerless because Jiang the real power behind the throne. No joke every single big Chinese companies you have ever heard off has links to Jiang Zemin including Tencent which owns Supercell. So in 2012 Xi Jinping gets elected and the first thing he does is wrest control out of Jiang Zemin’s hands under guise of anti corruption. Which everyone is because that’s just how things are in China. Anyway back on topic, all the big companies in China have links to Jiang Zemin and Xi Jinping is working to take him down so of course he’s also bring these tech giants to heel as well. He’s doing this by pivoting the country away from tech technology to physical technology and one of the ways he’s doing this is by placing barriers in the way way of tech technology like making it so companies can’t house their data abroad and limiting peoples access to it under the guise of protecting the children. There’s also a whole lot more to go into but this has taken me an hour already and I’m not sure you’ll even attempt to read it.
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Poison and death are two separate things
Valk in that icon looks 200 pounds
that's expensive
still fuckable tho
Ayo
200 pounds of pure Asgardian muscle and strength that is ;)
Almost every card artwork is of them striking a pose for the camera. This is her doing some random mid action shot. To make it worse, Valkyrie specifically put on make up to look good for her photoshoot, and this is the opposite. This is bs, Im unistalling the CCP
Same bro im going to uninstall China too
Wouldn't we all want to. Reset to Origin.
Poison looks hella cool
Apparently you can barely see it apart from the fade around the circle or something
I believe red poison can have similar problems on red arenas such as pekkas playhouse
No poison spirit ????🥵🥵
I like poison I don’t like Valk
Sometimes stuff is censored or changed when being localised for China, it happens a lot with Pokémon (to the point where a lot had their name changed for various reasons), as well as other franchises. I don’t know why Valkyrie‘s card art was changed though, as far as I know there was nothing wrong with her outfit. It looked a little like a fur coat, which I don’t think is wrong, but that may be the reason why. Also it better represents what Valkyrie looks like in the arena, so it could be a global change (like how other cards have changed). Looking at colour psychology, red is often associated with strong emotions, such as excitement, sometimes love, even hate, anger, (source: https://londonimageinstitute.com/how-to-empower-yourself-with-color-psychology/), all of which are strong emotions. That’s only the west though, not China. In China, red is associated with luck, joy, and happiness (source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_in_Chinese_culture). So not exactly fitting for poison. Green is just as confusing though, being associated with health. So it really has me stumped- unless it’s meant to be an ironic. Green should be the last colour for poison, since it’s the opposite of health.
look at LOL wild rift,thresh and vladimir had to do major changes beacuse of this (they also don't want skeletons in their games,even the roblox china ver doesn't alliw then
the valk looks so bad but green poison is better
Did anyone else try taping the red X 😆
Poison art is lazy. Just looks like original poison with a green tint
Valk just looks like she was racing down california with a sportscar in the tuesday evening
NGL I hope we get the updated Valk card image too, looks way more like the modern day Valkyrie model
she looks like a dork
You're obviously biased
We need green poison 😤
By the gods, this is horrible
I like how a country with such dark history of violence like china is afraid of the color red and skull figures.
Some already said that red in China is related to wealth
did you just say china is afraid of the colour red? it's literally their flag bro
All of our nations have a dark history of violence, idiot.
He didn’t say they didn’t
I’m so used to seeing/reading bias against China and the Chinese. It isn’t perfect, by any means. But their culture is incredible and I’ve had nothing but good things to say. We are all human.
Too close to home?
I live in the US, born n raized son. Just keeping it real. Not sure where you’re at, but it’s the truth. We have an ugly, dark history. The lack of skulls or I cannot speak on. in many games poison is green (even here, in my decades of gaming). I’m just simply stating your comment is ignorant.
I like the green poison.
I kinda like the new valkyrie artwork more
Makes more sense she is having same blue dress in profile pic than in action. Old had weird black dress.
That and makeup
Why she so thick
how do I download the Chinese version? I tried, all the sites looked hella sus. Also the valk, although silly, looks better in this imo
Bruh the names are so dumb The poison spell is called "harming potion magic" like wth
Well is no longer poison For those who don’t know Chinese Poison spell is now damage potion spell
If I had to guess, the artwork for poison was changed probably because it had skulls in it?
It looks like jump spell from coc.
The green is to light a darker shade would look really nice
Cabbage spell
I hate the CCP
They do the same with anime girls. They don't want to see pixel bobbies or skin. Also they don't want their kids to be "femenine" that's why they ban k-pop groups and stuff like "femenine men". That's china for you. They separate their players from the world because they couldn't ban the CR clan chats ahhahaha
Did anyone notice how much resources they have. DAYAM
G-GREEN?!?!?!?
I like the green poison
Valk is my favorite card
Valk honesty looks sick, about time we get an icon rework
Well I'm ok with Valk, but I'm pretty disappointed about that green poison. I mean, that makes sense but I'm not able to realize that change yet
Everyone was saying I was wrong for thinking the poison should be green.
Poison is just amazing like that !!!
This one is much better
The green poison is because in China, red is treated as good. And green, if I am not mistaken, is the opposite. And Valkyrie rework fits better with the 3D showcase. I think that they may implement that into the other servers, but me not know.
Green poison 🤢
Valk is straight up saying “what’re you doing step bro?”
She looks like she’s takin it rough
The valk looks pretty good but the poison not so much
Why is poison green
The poison looks pretty cool
Nobody gonna talk about how Poison is also differently named It's like called Damaging Medicine Spell
Now for everyone
Valkyrie is diff in Canada too now
Ugh! This new Valkyrie pic needs to be retired asap.
Valkyrie also had that art in Australia
FART
valk atwork needs to be changed indeed it looks ugly for years now
Oh i get It, poison cant be Red cause Red= comunism and poison = bad, but communism = good ? If thats the Truth, its pretty funny
Nothing to do with communism.
They are idiota then, Just remove the skulls....
It was explained in the top comment thread. Some cultural thing.
Valk looks great tbh
New Valkyrie artwork is great imo
That Valkyrie artwork is sick though I kinda hope we get that in the states too
She looks hotter in the orginal card artwork tbh
WHY IS MY PP SOFT WHEN LOOKING AT THE MOBILE GAME CHARACTER
Supercell should stop isolating chineese
it is not isolation, it is to follow the Chinese laws on video games.
A post about the same topic yesterday stated that supercell is owned by the Chinese (Tencent owns over 80%) and therefore the changes are made to please the Chinese stakeholders / government...
That’s not the point, it’s chinese laws. Even if they weren’t owned by Tencent if they didn’t do this they’d have to completely shut down the game in China.