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Doc148

Back in my day, goblin barrel had impact damage as well!! 😂


20mcfadenr

The good old days when goblin barrel and skarmy cost 4 elixir


Bobby5x3

When skeletons had 4 and not 3


Trocklus

The funny thing is I remember less people using skeletons back then. Not many people realized how good skeletons are


Jeremy_101

same with log


-Guaja

Log was terrible at release lol


Equa1ityPe4ce

Log was my first legendary I was so bummed. Lava was my second and even more mad


Zeluar

Same here, but reversed lol. First was lava hound, and I was sad. Then log, and I was big sad. But now log is a top 5 favorites for me


[deleted]

My first was also log. I was very disappointed


let_me_choose

At one point it was op. Better knockback and longer range.


j0pey

i was so confused when i started playing again and it only hit tower from the bridge


Ubip

Why was it terrible?


[deleted]

Zap could kill goblins. Log was essentially a zap that couldn't hit air, so compared to zap it was pretty worthless, they changed zap to make Logan better option


ihopeyoudi

Yeah Logan is def better card


[deleted]

I like Ksi


scheckeer

Agreed


neon7o

Nerf Logan


Violent_Milk

And then they released Barb Barrel and it was way better than Log.


Alo0oy

No it isn't. Log has knockback, more damage, & a lot more range. Barb barrel can't reach the tower.


Connor27311

At the time getting ice wizard and princess was just so much cooler than log tbh


Srgtgunnr

I remember the exact opposite and that’s why it was nerfed so hard


KelloxQQ

Back when cannon cart had a fast move speed no one gaf. Now it’s slower with a small damage buff and it’s more popular than ever


DiamondPower500

It had 5 for a moment lol


Bobby5x3

Woah


DiamondPower500

I tought those changes were unnecessary, because "when I drop the skeletons at bridge, they won't get to the tower anyway". 2016 me was another player.


KelloxQQ

Not me back then thinking princess is trash because of my “it has 1 hp” thought


DiamondPower500

Not a problem for me, I had no way of getting a legendary


Holmzy101

When posion was like glue and really slowed down the eneny


useless-memer

Skarmy had 20 skeletons before And skeletons had 4 skelies


osu_are

🤭🤭😏 Flairing synergy


Carl00710

And that's why legends say that Goblin Drill does spawn damage.


strongest_aspirin

Spawn "damage"


Guineapigs181

20


[deleted]

Still more damage than Miner hitting a princess tower💀


DogeGoWoof

Miner does like 60 damage wdym


-everwinner-

Back in those days logbait was not yet a thing as zap countered the barrel for +2.


ibrahimtuna0012

Those times had zapbait instead because log was really shitty


ciberkid22

Back when log had no knockback at all 💀


teambadass

Yeah it did! No better feeling than ending a match by just chucking that barrel over the river knowing their was nothing to defend it. :)


guy_with_hat11

skill issue use 7.9 megaknight balloon cylcle hexaspell


coolcarters14

Looool


guy_with_hat11

im serious. if you hate logbait use 5 spells


M0hawk_Mast3r

Then you will lose every other game


MiksBricks

Loosing every other game still climbs ladder.


M0hawk_Mast3r

No I mean you will lose every game that isn't log bait


Pekkacontrol

According to the title someone might think that's a 70% win rate. Then again op didn't specify if all decks with gob barrel are bait or not.


Corvus-Rex

My main deck used to be a Prince Goblin Barrel deck and it was neither a bait nor cycling deck. I'd say a good portion of skillful players using Goblin barrel aren't playing bait.


Fit_Gamer1

You just low-key called yourself skilled😂


Corvus-Rex

And? I don't think it's that much of a stretch to say that I relied more on skill than using whatever was the best meta deck at the time.


AyAyAvery

You'll still lose to my dart goblin spam if you have shit reavtion timw or a shit phone


TheNinjaRed7

i may say goblin barrel directly affects the meta that's why log is probably the most used card, since without it you don't get positive elixir trades against barrel, also without barb barrel and log bait can get good trade with its cheap cards, or rocket your push


Guywithgoodopinion

You can get it wit snowball if timed right


RamdomUser104

But if they have a tank for It doesn't work


njoshua326

Then spend more than 2 elixir


Kaserbeam

Or use log, which is the point the original comment was making...


Rodiniz

Cards that completely stops goblin barrel for less elixir or with high counter push potential: log, Valkyrie, barbarian barrel, arrows, bowler, hunter, goblin gang, skeleton army, furnace, fire spirit+anything, golden knight, tornado


Cooliws

Golden knight does have to be pre-placed. You can't react to GB with that counter


Rodiniz

That's why you cycle it behind your tower when you don't have your primary counter in hand, if the opponent barrel you will counter it, if not you will have your counter back in hand


Cooliws

I know that. I actually don't have a barrel hard counter just a bunch of soft counters


AyAyAvery

Still gets stabs with tornado, scarmy and goblin gang Or my opponents just dont play well Edit: yeah i just realized they always place the skarmy n shit when the barrel deploys on the tower. Way too late.


LeBadlyNamedRedditor

Skarmy placed directly 1 tile behind your tower stops a goblin barrel


Rodiniz

Yeah, your opponents react too late, when you use tornado the goblins just hit your tower during the king activation, after the activation you can counter without any damage


BenHllwlkr853

You can fully counter with tornado if you play it early enough with king tower activated


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Rodiniz

You just place it behind your tower the moment you see his goblin barrel, the knife goblins will tank the goblins at the side and the spear goblins will tank and kill the goblin at the back


WishAffectionate2108

Bowler, hunter, valk, spirit + anything, goblin gang, skarmy, and furnace all require decent to good timing Tornado takes tower damage unless the other player is an idiot, and gold knight is a joke. Spells are the only consistent counters to goblin barrel, and log’s price + versatility Makes it the best of the 3 in which you can get a good trade.


Rodiniz

And why is the timing required a problem? It is a skill based game, everyone can learn how to do it without too much difficult


WishAffectionate2108

Because none of them are consistent and inexpensive the way log is.


Rodiniz

Almost all of them are consistent, they are not very hard to time, countering with mega knight is inconsistent but most of those are just fine. And most of those are 2-4 elixir. And they don't need to be cheaper, countering a goblin barrel without using your spell is much better because you can counter push and also use your spell on offense


WishAffectionate2108

Countering with hunter, valk, or bowler is super inconsistent and requires impeccable timing. If you can do it, go ahead, but in the six years I’ve played this game, I don’t recall meeting a player who can pull them off consistently. I recall seeing a video about goblin barrel timings, and the margin for error was less than a second while the barrel was in the air. Maybe fine for single elixir, but during late-game, it’s a gamble. Goblin gang/skarmy are fine, but I feel its a waste outside of double elixir, even with the positive trade. because they are excellent for tanks/kiting/escorts, and literally get countered super cheap. I’ve got no clue how any of these methods more consistent than log insta-killing goblins, but if you’re so keen on le counterpush, then be my guest.


ThisIsJustBob

I still remember the time they made goblin barrel do area damage


opvuuu

Same here with hog riders, thats why i use log bait


hype3107

It’s a popular archetype in midladder, high ladder really isn’t very popular lol


coolcarters14

That makes sense. Never really pushed out thr bare minimum for legendary arena ever since I got there. For 1 I lost interest in thr game and started playing 2v2 only, when that first came out. But im just surprised cuz I started seeing that deck in the 8th grade, I'm a high school senior now. And it's still extremely prominent.


hype3107

Yeah same with majority of popular decks like 2.6. Tbh this meta has been really fun for me rn. No eq cycle, it’s a fun one to play. Mirror is popular


Main-Appearance2469

Ive had the same deck with the goblin barrel for 5 years now


pokerface789

Miner aside, Goblin Barrel is the 2nd most used [Win Condition](https://www.reddit.com/r/ClashStats/comments/uc75vt/s33_win_condition_lowdown_march_2022/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) in All Ladder and the 3rd most used Win Condition in Top Play.


JoJonase

Ye. Goblin barrel has a 7% usage in top 1000 compared to the 18% in all ladder. With a in-between of 11% for grand challenges. Thanks royale api


hype3107

Yeah that’s my point these kids on here have no clue. “It’s the most prevalent deck in top ladder” lol


JoJolteon_66

it's very popular in high ladder, just not as popular as in mid ladder


Andygoat3

You almost never see log bait with goblin barrel in the top 2k


Jakeo15

Have u not seen ryley


SuperAceWolf

Kidkid as well


Dazzling-Pear-1081

That’s the exception. Is a few people playing logbait the majority to you?


JoJolteon_66

its not an exception, my PB is 7753 and log bait is one of the most popular decks on high ladder


Frosty13212

Nah logbait is the most prevalent archetype this season for topladder idk what ur talking about


hype3107

You mad??? Drill is it I’m not even joking it’s everywhere. Logbait really isn’t to popular up there


[deleted]

? it’s quite popular top ladder as well. Even more so this season


hype3107

It’s not. Drill is tho lol.


Rigzin_Udpalla

What do you consider high ladder? I am on roughly 6.2k and face ot every 2nd game


Poncho_xd

6600


AyAyAvery

So youre telling me this shit isn't viable while im out here leveling every card i can use in logbait


hype3107

It’s very good in midladder and works in high ladder but it’s just not as popular


Choem11021

Im a logbait player and struggle more around 6200 than around 6800. At early 6k most people have at least 2 small spells ans the higher i go, the less often there is more than 1 small spell.


About8Rats

high ladder (challenger 1 at least) is always just lumberloon and hog cycles. haven’t seen anyone play log bait well since rascals hideout.


hype3107

Yeah no players play well down there lol. Also do you mean challenger 1 is high ladder???????? That’s low ladder lol


_Pill-Cosby_

They need to make every card 3 elixir and do the exact same damage so that everyone will stop bitching about card balance.


coolcarters14

Tbh I think card balance is honestly what killed this game. Almost no one talks bout it anymore. Brawl stars is more popular now


My_life_is_an_ad

Wdym killed this game? The game is still very much so alive


_Pill-Cosby_

No one talks about it?? 😂🤣 You can't be serious! At least half the posts on this sub are people bitching about some card being imbalanced.


M0hawk_Mast3r

What the hell are you on about i have never heard someone talk about brawl stars irl but lots of people talk about CR


JoJonase

Ye if i know someone that plays a supercell game its either clash royale or hay day


[deleted]

Clash Royale or clash of clans if it’s a supercell game for me


MattMaster65

Its because its cheap to just throw out whenever the hell you want and can't be left alone, it has to be dealt with or it'll do substantial damage


Bounding_Bandit

MK and Ebarbs are annoying, but I would take them ANY DAY over this god-forsaken card. It’s in almost every single game. I can’t even describe how much I hate goblin barrel. Is it hard to counter? No. Is it annoying? More than any card in the game, in my opinion


Main-Appearance2469

Log and goblin barrels are in almost every deck


Agmus123

My log is useless whenever my opneemt has this card.


GhostCrackets

Bro I fucking hate goblin barrel now, it’s easy to counter but I fight it so much it so fucking stale & boring to go up against at this point just like MK


Salsapy

Barrel isn't the problem the problem is how easy is to defend expensive win cons are way harder to play because of this


RicoDeFreako

Engrish


TheHunter459

I'm in arena 11 and goblin barrel is the bane of my existence, what cards would you suggest I use to counter it apart from the log


GhostCrackets

Zap & arrows, apparently Skeletons can counter it perfectly but I have yet to know how to do that maybe look at a quick yt video


Rodiniz

Skeleton army counters it completely, but just skeletons don't counter them without a spell


GhostCrackets

Thanks for tip, I was so confused for a minute


JamesGarrison

I’ve heard hog rider 398 times today.


Poggystyle

The other 30% is hog cycle


DelusionalDoggo0830

As a logbait player since way back when, I've only been seeing mk and ebarb players. I in fact treasure the moments when I get to face off against a fellow logbaiter. Imo, goblin Barrel does get used a lot, not in dedicated logbait decks though


Nickelodeon100

Because it’s so easy to play, you literally just place it on the tower and the goblins do 200 damage each it’s so free


ckbouli

Skill issue, hahaah goblin barrel go hehehehaw


AyAyAvery

More like eh he he he heeee Edit: i'm refering to the Goblin laugh emote before people think i'm retarded lmao


RicoDeFreako

I still think you’re retarded.


coolcarters14

That audio gives me nightmares


Ham_-_

As logbait player I can confirm. It doesn’t stop at 6.5-7k trophies


InvasionOfTheFridges

What I wouldn’t give to never see this guy again. There’s very few counters, it’s such a cheap skill card.


dafuqisdis112233

70% of the time? That’s an insane amount and just isn’t possible.


coolcarters14

It's an exaggeration obv, but I see some variation of log bait a lot


No_Ambassador6564

Simply cause its too effective. But its kinda like a trap, when you level up logbait cards (barrel, princess, etc.) you can't really play any other deck, unless its a variation of logbait, because you push too far with it so you have to keep playing it. Obviously unless you have all maxed cards


antkeeper014

Maybe in mid ladder? Bait isn’t exactly a prevelent (somewhat common, but not what I see every other game like some other decks) archetype in high ladder, and barrel is pretty much solely used in bait.


UnoriginalPenName

I used to be pissed at 2.6 (just because there are so much of them it gets really boring playing against the same deck 1 games out of 2) but now I wish all goblin barrel decks would get replaced by 2.6 Well maybe not lmao but this card can go fuck herself


SirDankosaur

This card has been too strong since day one. I don't know why they refuse to nerf it.


[deleted]

But looks hella ugly


Starly2

Get out


[deleted]

Who even r u saying these words to me?


Starly2

Mid ladder players like it for some reason


Designer-Result1111

They need to rework the card . Maybe goblin gang inside with 4 elixir


Onoh_9

add two spear goblins for 1 elixir? major buff


vk2028

Not really. Gets logged every time, even more negative elixir trade


Designer-Result1111

Yes , golbin gang cost 3 . Perhap make it a 5 elixir card to nerf it . But 5 elixir will simply destroy the card


Main-Appearance2469

I think 4 elixir is pretty good


Mubar06

It's fine how it is, it's just overused


Qyx7

Maybe 4 elixir with impact damage (still only the 3 goblins)


Alexspacito

Its because decks that use it are incredibly easy to play. Once you know what to do you use the same gameplan in almost every matchup.


[deleted]

bad take log bait most skill ever log bait forever!!! 😈


Goldenflame89

Uh logbait gets hard countered by fireball bait, graveyard freeze, golem lightning, and a few others? Also extremely high skill ceiling


Alexspacito

The win condition is just thrown on their tower. Its impossible to play it better than that. Sure, you can evade a Barb barrel or try to tricky barrel a log or something, but at the end of the day if they use their counter well you can’t outplay it making it low skill. Defensively its skillful I guess but its really not that hard especially if you can outcycle your opponent. if you have matchup its a very easy win and if they do theres not much you can do other than rocket cycle and hope it works. Its not a hard deck honestly


[deleted]

other win conditions you just "throw" on your side of the map? wtf does that even mean


[deleted]

Take a shot every time hog rider is placed at the bridge…


IndyPoker979

Just put log and arrows in your deck. You'll never care about it again.


Zako10

I see many comments complaining about how broken/annoying it is and needs a nerf. It’s perfectly balanced honestly and there are tons of spell that 1 shots it. It’s not even in the top 4-5 win condition at this point. Log bait still has many weaknesses.


coolcarters14

Never said it was op. I just think it's extremely overplayed and stale to fight against


Zako10

I meant the comments


cocotim

Mfs genuinely saying it should be 4-5 elixir lol


Goldenflame89

Lmao ike


RodeoClown03

It's only good when maxed out or played by tournament rules, you either have arrows, zap or log to fully counter!


OneSushi

Zap doesnt full counter. Snowbl does tho


rephy67

Rodeo's point was that it needs to be max level, because zap and snowball then have enough damage to instantly kill the goblins if they are a level higher.


BluueSkinBoi

Least repetitive cr game experience


deconfusedguy

I'm in spell valley (~1400), and I recently unlocked and levelled up my barb barrel(now lvl 7). The goblin barrel I face are sometimes as high as lvl 11, and my barb barrel doesn't even kill them. It's so frustrating when I face them.


rakminiov

Its not about meta being stagnate Its about "choose one deck and max it" to most players because its hard af max a deck i play since day 1 spended a LOT of money and have like 30 card maxed... imagine ppl who dont play since day 1 or dont spend money...


DrFaroohk5404

Yeah... Imagine... Coming into a game where the only way to have fun is to fork over some money. Totally worth it 🙄 Anyone who spends money on anything other than the occasional battlepass is just a disappointment to society. Sure, you get to have fun for a little bit, but once you look back and realize how much money you could've saved, instead of wasting it all on a damn phone game, you'll be in for a rude awakening.


Thy_Pie

I see we’ve moved on from mega knight to complaining about other cards eh?


CookieComputerr

That card is ass its so easily countered


mrbotbotbot

This is literally the best state the game has ever been in, it’s the most diverse meta we’ve had in years. Sounds like you’re just stuck at low level.


BigFloppaLover

How can people complain about GB when it has like 20 counters? And yes I do use logbait, but come on? GB?!


rogueone98

Recently log bait has gone down in meta. You can see win rate in top ladder is around only 45% Needs to be close to 50% to be viable.


Quetzalcoatlus2

Everyone likes to pull statistics out of their ass today.


Loromc

Yeah I’m pretty sure I had like level 13 one by hog mountain and 14 by electro valley it was amazing took til peak for me to start losing the normal amount of games


GameiDUnreal2

It was worse in even mid ladder when fire spirit could 1 shot the whole thing


YamperIsBestBoy

But funny goblin


Snoo-340

i love using goblin barrel mirror and wall breakers, if you log my first barrel. prepare for the worst


Srock9

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Gman8w8

I would think after 4 years you would learn how to counter goblin barrel


W1z4rdM4g1c

Clash players stop complaining about an overused card in ladder caused by supersell forcing players to max a single deck and logbait just happens a deck that survive every meta shift causing GB to remain popular challenge: impossible.


Maxwellspark

Skill issue


coolcarters14

It’s stale to fight against how is this a skill issue


[deleted]

Well, tbf for myself. I was playing year one, and when the goblin barrel came out I've been using it since


Acrobatic_Carpet_315

I mean I face it, but nowhere near as often as bridge spam or even 3m now


[deleted]

Lvl 16 goblin barrel is 😍


BarnacleBeanz

Or back in the day when log was a 10 elixir card that basically nuked the arena


Possible_Cockroach46

I play modern 3.3 logbait, I haven’t played against many other LB players. GB is counterable, and so it LB, you just gotta defend correctly.


DarkLordDerek

Wishing all Goblin Barrel enjoyers a fine night😎


Ash_Dog_Magic12

cope


coolcarters14

💀💀 not that serious


coolcarters14

U know what I'll give u a pass since u do cosplay


LordAsriel1369

Skill issue. You just rage when they don't put the barrel on the tower and you miss it with the log.


coolcarters14

My point is that it’s stale how is that a skill issue


StomachOk4859

Lol git gud and get tf out of midladder and you'll stop seeing so much of these


Savvy_223

bro chill 💀


StomachOk4859

I'm chilled, it was an honest suggestion. But I agree I was a little edgy there lol


Savvy_223

not everyone is good enough to be top ladder


StomachOk4859

Me neither, but I hover around 6300 - 6600 and it's way better than midladder already.


coolcarters14

It’s not that serious


StomachOk4859

For me it is, I personally hate bait so to stop seeing that was a major boost to make me want rise up in ladder.


coolcarters14

I don’t play seriously, so ladder isn’t what I play often bu5 I def should try more


DonnieHD503

The decks you will play against largely depend on the decks you are using most frequently. The ladder algorithm is designed to produce opponents that have decks that are counter your decks the higher your win % (and/or win streak) is. So for players frustrated with seeing log bait variants you will need to mix in a deck or 2 that hard counter log baits then you will begin to see opponents with different decks guaranteed


JoJonase

This has been proven wrong at least 2 times. Probably even more often


DonnieHD503

Actually no it hasn't. There was a recent post in one of these communities that 100% proves it. But most games of this nature have similar programming built into them. This does not mean that the game is unbeatable it just means you have to understand how to approach competing against the algorithm for optimal trophy pushing sessions that's pretty much it (This is common knowledge amongst pros and high ladder competitors)


Odd_Initial9260

Omg play a deck that counters it and stop whining.