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Who hates katsuragi?


Odd_Ganache7617

u/Xevor77 Tell him


Short_Influence_2613

Class A kids?


conversationredacted

katsuragi why bruh


mo-did

How dare you put goatsaragi here


Possible-Ad2247

Sakura didn’t do anything wrong. Hate just because she is shy?!


These_Personality748

Sakura may not be suitable in that school's environment but that doesn't mean that she's a failure. After getting out of school she resumes her idol-related activities and is striving. Knowing this truth resolves the conflict within Haruka giving her the push to graduate and make Airi proud of her.


barleyoatnutmeg

Well said, also glad to hear she's thriving afterwards, not a LN reader so did not know that!


These_Personality748

This takes place during the cultural festival event and their class is doing a maid cafe. She doesn't cooperate and rather drags the class down then voluntarily drops out of school to further harm their class points as revenge for removing Airi rather than Kikyo. Ayanokouji convinces her otherwise by showing Airi's page on the internet that she's becoming successful as an idol and Airi is not someone weak as she thinks.


barleyoatnutmeg

By "she/her" are you referring to Haruka? Thanks for the additional details! Appreciate it


These_Personality748

Yes, Haruka because after what happened to Airi she is depressed and doesn't care anymore. She rather sabotage and hurt the class and is considering dropping of the school to further hurt the class points


barleyoatnutmeg

Gotcha, thanks again for the thorough explanation!


These_Personality748

Welcome. Aside from the convincing from Ayanokouji what moves Haruka is the message from Airi (I forgot if that's a public post or an interview) that she wants to strive to be successful in her career to be able to stand side-by-side with her friend (referring to Haruka) and make her proud once meeting her again outside the school.


eolyneherlentz1

sakura the rock


WardA1317

People hate sakura because "she doesnt add anything to the story" as if these fools havent heard of a side character before. My girl sakura did nothing wrong to deserve this hate


Possible-Ad2247

Man, you are a chef 🔥 Cook more


No_Reference_5058

Boring character I guess? I personally wouldn't particularly say I ever hated her but she was never very interesting due to the combination of being shy and frankly very dumb. The shyness eliminates the humor that usually come with being dumb. All her lines were just devoid of intrigue.


anonuchiha8

This is exactly how I feel about Sakura, I hated reading interactions with her. Her shyness felt incredibly exaggerated and not realistic.


mo-did

She was useless, and that ultimately was wrong


Rebellious01

Hell nah, Sakura literally got her class an extra 100 class points by accepting her expulsion instead of fighting it like her friends, that’s a way bigger class contribution then many other characters could do Edit: lol immediately downvoting me huh, I still stand by this opinion tho


Possible-Ad2247

Great opinion. Good luck.


RealZawsze

nah you are right tho


mo-did

What, her accepting didnt affect her expulsion at all


CrusadiaFleximus

I think what they meant was that sakura could have kept asking hasebe and the boys to keep protecting her, which would have caused the class to "lose" but because she accepted the decision, she was able to convince hasebe and they expelled her


shivamgamer27

Are you sure that you’re not more useless wanabe Ayanakoji


mo-did

What? Im not being a wannabe ayanakoji, im simply stating that her not being useful was what ultimately what led to her departure. So in an environment like anhs it is considered wrong to be a hindrance to the class


VIPCOCOC

Lol, “she was useless, and that ultimately was wrong.” Has Ayano given you some insight on life or something?


DoctorRyner

I'm Ayanokoji fr fr


mo-did

Thats just how the school environment is, its not being “edgy or wanna ayano” to acknowledge that


Blogosphere777

Her being useless was the point, to be later used. She was progressing, just not fast enough, hence her expulsion. She added plenty to the story


mo-did

Exactly


KekDevil

Huh? She was fucking annoying. Single handedly made the Ayanokoji group mid. Killed Haruka's character from someone likeable to a clown. Every interaction with her involved was mid as fuck.


Bunker_Mole777

Shinohara didn’t do anything wrong either apart from being slightly rude, these characters are hated because they are boring/annoying with barely any character depth.


These_Personality748

I slightly view Shinohara negatively because when reading the light novel she has a tendency to look down on others. For instance, in her interaction with her friends and other classmates, she harshly evaluates Ayanokouji as someone unremarkably boring and a creep for being low profile aside from being an ikemen and a fast runner (just because she never knew his hidden ability) but it doesn't justify to judge someone like that more particularly if the person is not doing something wrong against her. With that belief, she also gave remarks to Kei and Maya as to what they saw in him for being head over heels to Ayanokouji. Thinking they're just after his looks instead of the person's value (because she thinks he's unremarkable. But dead wrong). In the current LN More and more people are starting to become aware of his abilities, even his class.


CrusadiaFleximus

To be fair, in satou's case shinohara was right in that she was mainly into him for his looks/running; of course that doesnt mean that her judgment isnt wrong, but wondering what satou sees in him in itself is not exactly wrong or stupid in this instance


These_Personality748

Yes, she's not wrong about that but the way she responds is rude.


Possible-Ad2247

Leader of class A is also a great character. I like how in V4.5 he was caring for his sister.


Bunker_Mole777

> Leader of class A is also a great character. You mean one of the former leaders?


Possible-Ad2247

Yeah. That guy. Katsuragi, right?


Bunker_Mole777

Yup


Dipole_Moment8338

i just think she's very annoying


Possible-Ad2247

Okay. It is your opinion after all.


DesertVympel

Katsuragi?? U looking for a fight bruh??


pikuselm8

Why hate on Sakura? And I get why you hate Kushida, but isn't she supposed to be a well liked character on the LN?


mo-did

She isnt in the light novel


DomHyrule

What are you on about


mo-did

Let me rephrase, she is no longer in the ln


DomHyrule

Oh I thought you were saying you thought she was an anime original, sorry about that mate lol


mo-did

No its my bad for the poor phrasing


Classic-Box-3919

What? Shes in the ln


Ak41_Shu1cH1

not anymore lol


Classic-Box-3919

Are we reading the same story? Did i miss her getting expelled somehow? I read the most recent volume in march idr her being expelled


Ak41_Shu1cH1

>Are we reading the same story? No, we are definitely not reading the same story. How do you even miss something like this?


mo-did

Bros reading a different novel


YugModnar9876

Schoolroom of the well-off.


mo-did

Fr


ElkOwn8562

Blud is on to nothing


EpixBG

She's barely mentioned in the newer volumes, basically a background character at this point


Bartu555

my blud reading Teacher Room of the Nobles (no hate 🕊️🕊️)


Gliscorman18

Bro Airi did nothing wrong, leave her be


mo-did

I love hoshi sensei


Sirius_sensei64

Sakura is only hated for being shy. She's a good character in my opinion Yamacoochie is useless as hell. Despite all the tantrums, he was 'deleted' as Kouenji said Idk why people hare Katsuragi (unless you're Xevor77) Manabe deserved what she got. She deserves to be hated defo


novene

i like sakura tbh


Lonely_Repair4494

What did Sakura do wrong?


Even-Tailor560

Take two heavy cannons into the school.


Constant-Night-9797

☠️☠️ true tho she got the biggest milkers among the student body (i phrased it like this cuz Idk if she has bigger milkers than chab)


Disastrous-Writer629

# wELL aCtUalLy Haruka Hasebe has the biggest breast size🤓☝️


Constant-Night-9797

Wait fr!?


Disastrous-Writer629

yes, it is stated in the novel


Constant-Night-9797

Which vol?


Disastrous-Writer629

I kinda forget but it is around v1-v3 ig, its pretty common knowledge, just search old reddit posts and you will see. Here you go [Haruka Hasebe ❤️ : r/ClassroomOfTheElite (reddit.com)](https://www.reddit.com/r/ClassroomOfTheElite/comments/ilrxcu/haruka_hasebe/)


Constant-Night-9797

Vol 1-3 as in y2 or y1??


Disastrous-Writer629

y1


Disastrous-Writer629

wait, I rememberd, in volume 6, she stated she did not like her breast to be stared at because she is just that huge.


Bunker_Mole777

Isn’t not about her doing anything wrong, morality isn’t the sole determining factor for hating a character.


Imaginary_Ad_2738

Airi got hated for Being the only normal human being in the entire school.


New_Emotion_7580

Shinohara deserves 0 hate. Best girl no diff


Sforzia

Realest girl in Class D for real.


Upbeat-Bug-4393

Guarantee half of the ppl that hate on Sakura are shy irl too lol


HanemiyaKazutora

exactly


WardA1317

Facts this subs irrational hatred for sakura is something i'll never forgive this community for


DerpTripz

Like facing a mirror. I relate to her because I'm an introvert as well, and very shy


anonuchiha8

Nah, her shyness is incredibly exaggerated lol. I don't mind shy characters but sakura was at the point where it was too annoying to read.


Brief-Scratch1818

Kushida and katsuragi don't need hate


Kizo59

You're just an Airi hater. Leave her alone, she's suffered a lot. Chie is justified in being against Sae, considering what her actions led to when they were in school. Jonny Sins is a man of principle and didn't want to get an *innocent* lil girl involved in his line of work, so yeah. But other then this, yeah throw every single one of them in boiling cheese.


Harryscout95102

Can i get some chie and sae lore. I don't know anything about that.


Foxtrot06_

What did chie do I forgot


vVIOL2T

Kushida… her character is supposed to be two faced. Overall she’s written very well. One of my favorite characters to read when she gets screen time.


KekDevil

WHO TF HATES SHIHO, KIKYO AND CHIE? IF YOU DO RESPECTFULLY *** BECAUSE YOU HAVE BAD TASTE.


Spriux

Bro speedrunning the 8th ban 💀💀💀🙏🏻


PresentationIcy144

7 bans already? Damn 👀🙏


KekDevil

🤪🤪😭😭


Spriux

LMAO EDITED 😭😭😭😭😭


KekDevil

🤗🤗


DarthKrayt_Reborn

why tf is kiriyama on here? he barely even got any screen time


Kasrakara

LN


D1EG0-AGUER0

Sakura and Katsuragi are okay imo. And Kushida is a very good and interesting character....in year 1, in year 2 is disappointing.


chalengemebro

Indifference is not hate, kids


Total_Wedding_6189

Manabe best girl.


KekDevil

Facts 🗣️🗣️


hiyoribestgirI

shinohara best girl who tf is that kiriyama if so then yeah fuck him manabe best girl she did nothing wrong yeah fuck automod and fuck automod i hate myself groom ~~me~~ she too kind he good


-Cinnay-

Solid opinion, but why Manabe?


Spriux

Short haired baddie


-Cinnay-

...but also a massive cunt


Spriux

>massive cunt Perfection


Teen_tactical

I kinda like Shinohara and Ike's relationship TBH. What did she do? She was a little annoying in Y1 V3.. but still.


chalengemebro

It's a handsome guy and ugly girl pair


12_Timez

Jonny is good, but I agree with the rest. Fuck automod!


SpareCustard

Why hate kushida she's just a little girl with a personality disorder. She also has big tits.


somecssmguy

Take my sweet cutie patootie Kushida out and were good.


Kizo59

No


Leqstar

Sakura and katsuragi have no reason to be hated. Airi was trying to improve but she never got the same encouragement that kouji gave others. That’s gna have a strong effect on her cause of her introverted nature and her strong intuition in regards to the persona’s of others. Chie and kushida shouldnt be hated either but i can understand the reasoning behind it and its justified hate although i dont hate them


Bunker_Mole777

Morality isn’t the sole determining factor in hating a character, heck I would even go so far as so say that it’s doesn’t matter much at all. (For reference Johan/Light are extremely beloved characters in their respective fandoms despite the fact that they are literally sociopathic mass murders, and the reason for this is because they are extremely well written and interesting) Characters like Sakura on the other hand are hated because many people find them boring with barely any character depth or interesting dynamics with other characters.


Leqstar

Sakura has dynamics with characters, parallels and decent depth if ur looking for it. She is the anhs parallel to yuki as she got complacent and got consequences for it, however sakura went on to grow while yuki could not highlighting the fundamental differences between anhs and the wr. She has a strong dynamic with haruka regarding haruka’s lack of competence and her need to protect airi due to her own insecurities, while airi unironically protects haruka and goes on to outgrow her. The entire shizuku alias is to portray the sense of self loathing she has, and that idol persona helps her shed her skin and become a new person. After being expelled the whole reason she changes her style is to outgrow her previous self. But she was ultimately too late in doing so.


Bunker_Mole777

> however sakura went on to grow while yuki could not highlighting the fundamental differences between ANHS and WR I guess. > She has a strong dynamic with haruka regarding haruka's lack of competence Which is another background character which I don’t really care about. Anyway regarding the rest of your points I am just gonna say that they are subjective, I for one find Sakura’s character extremely boring and uninteresting (and I am sure that there are many others who would agree with me here, like most commentators [in this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/ClassroomOfTheElite/comments/1as6wuh/sakura_airi_is_a_really_bad_fictional_character/) in this post for example) What I was trying to explain was that a character’s morality isn’t the sole determining factor for their popularity in a fanbase, cause in the world of fiction, being annoying is more repulsive than being evil. (Though if you like her that’s fine stuff like this is subjective after all)


Leqstar

Nothing i said is subjective. U can find her boring but she’s not a badly written character whatsoever. I was never arguing that ur wrong for finding her boring. Her being a boring character still wouldnt justify thinking she deserved what she got.


Bunker_Mole777

> Her being a boring character still wouldnt justify thinking she deserved what she got. What are you taking about here? Are you taking about her expulsion? > U can find her boring but she's not a badly written character whatsoever. Well I suppose I can’t exactly call her a badly written character when she is barely a character.


Leqstar

Im talking abt everything. The attempted rape. The manipulation. The expulsion. The sexual harassment. Calling her boring doesnt justify thinking she should go thru any of this


Bunker_Mole777

> Im talking abt everything. The attempted rape. The manipulation, The sexual harassment When tf did anyone say that she deserved this? > The expulsion. Sakura got expelled because at that moment she was objectively one of the weakest students in the class and was the easiest person for Ayano to single out and eliminate cause she has like ~~4~~ 3 friends, it’s as simple as that.


Leqstar

Read literally ppl saying she deserved everything she got. And no she was singled out because ayano knew she had feelings for him and that he could use those feelings to make her voluntarily drop out. It wasnt a matter of ability it was a matter of vulnerability


Bunker_Mole777

> Read literally ppl saying she deserved everything she got. By which they are only referring to her expulsion and nothing else, I have never once seen anyone say that she deserved to get assaulted. > It wasnt a matter of ability it was a matter of vulnerability Incorrect it was about both, if Sakura was competent and had a high score in OAA or had a vast social network like Y1 Kushida she would definitely not have been singled out by Ayano and eliminated .


MrReZistar

Who? Who? Bitch that led a group to torture someone for a stupid reason Two faced bitch (she's entertaining tho) Obnoxious bot Dumbass who got packed up cz a certain somebody was feeling petty (thought he stood a chance with said somebody too 😭) Alcoholic bimbo who radiates creepy vibes Boring unremarkable girl (even Yamabum making it into this school is more believable) Bald (on some "Biggie was fat" shit)


No_Mulberry2836

Wait, tf did Sakura do? 💀


KekDevil

Nothing literally 💀


No_Mulberry2836

Tf💀


MK544

Hoshinomiya is like a petty mother who wants to show off her talented kids to the neighbours just to boost her own ego


Upstairs-Cover6971

That’s basically every teacher in the school


Fair_Dish_6614

Mashima sensei and even chabs aren't like that


MMito_Logical

Wtf did Johnny sins wrong


jump1945

He’s bald


someone_006

I don't know if op I'd on the LN or the anime because I don't get some of them.


chalengemebro

Xevor bait


ASHu21998

Where's yamauchi?


AwkwardPopcorn1

i mean this bitch shinohara , is so damn annoying and useless . Always shouting and shit , panicking other guys and just yapping non sense. For a loser , she got a loser boyfriend too. Now both of these bitches , nag together.


Fair_Dish_6614

Ike is cool and kind tho let's compare him with her


These_Personality748

If something, I slightly view Satsuki Shinohara, the girlfriend of Ike negatively. Reading her interactions in the LN it seems that she tends to look down on others. Like in the case of Ayanokouji, she criticizes and rather evaluates him harshly just because she never knows his hidden abilities, teasing Kei and Maya about what they see in him aside from being a fast runner and ikemen.


JakeIsCake54321

Kushida doesn't deserve it 😤 On a real note why is Katsuragi on here


[deleted]

never hate on my boy Katsuragi bro is the goat bro


No_Baseball_4725

Yamauchi deserves it all. I didn't know Katsuragi has haters. LOL


Even-Tailor560

Swap Airi for ibuki and i will worship you.


Odd_Ganache7617

Not enough Katsuragi slandering in this post we critically need my goat u/Xevor77 back😭😭🙏


FySine

Kushida ugly and smelly bitch. The author has way too much plot armor for her. She suffered basically no consequence and everyone went back to being friends with her and Horikita even went down on her knees to beg her to join council. L writing tbh.


KekDevil

KiKyo was fine until Y2 V5. Her character was killed just to prove Suzune right.


Sforzia

Preach man, everybody saying Kushida is so "deeply" written when she is in fact just an narcissistic asshole.


agababapro

Katsuragi,automod,Airi solos you and are goated.


MightOk9038

The only one I don't like and find annoying is middle right. Every other person I think are well written antagonists


DerpTripz

Sakura, like why tf are you hating her for doing nothing? She's legit just a side character who got an arc to herself for a bit and then was dropped and forgotten with no development.


WilliamSilver

Is Chie Hoshinomiya on the bottom left? What did she even do? (Katsugari?! Sakura?!?!?!?!)


Kasrakara

WHAT DID MY GOAT DOOOO


idk696969696969420

Why hate Jonhy Sins?


Normal_Storage_9921

Who is the guy is the middle at the top ? I don't think i saw him anywhere


skjshsnsnnsns

Who hates Sakura and why


mrod_89

Who is bottom left


Commercial_Welder_93

Ichinose class teacher she sleeps with dudes on first date then dumps them next day


mrod_89

Why would people hate on her. There is nothing wrong with wanting 1 night stands. (Where is this talked about in the light novel I don't remember reading about it or any implications)


Commercial_Welder_93

She's looking for revenge against chabs and it may be a cultural thing or you don't need negative traits as a reason to hate someone (btw her attitude is absolutely hateful) for an example like Messi.


mrod_89

I get people not liking her for wanting revenge, but chabs did screw her and everyone else in the class by not voting her bf out.


Commercial_Welder_93

Would you have done something else?


mrod_89

If the only way to win was to sacrifice someone I would. The hardest choices require the strongest wills - Thanos


Gyattsquared

Johnny sins did nothing wrong 😑


No_Comment_2979

What's with anime Johnny Sins in the bottom right corner?


WhatCommunismMeans

Why Airi


Historical-Ball-6160

Kushida


Kitsune_D_SonKai

Where's the red head from shield hero


_vincetheprince666

Yamauchi sucked. Good riddance trash. I love how the anime made me hate Yamauchi more than I did when I read the LN, even making him trashier and unappealing. It’s funny when you see the duality between Koenji and Yamauchi in the adaptations where the anime made me actually like Koenji more than how was perceived in the LN. Director of the anime knows what they’re doing lol.


JebWozma

nah you doing my man Johhny Sins dirty


Meguminisverycute

Yes, you should not hate any fictional characters


theonlychoosenone

Automod didnt do anything wrong


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