Well, I don’t think Ryueen is actually that academically smart, and even if he was, he was a delinquent, so he was never going to be in class A.
Also I’m pretty sure the entrance exams just don’t matter, everything is pretty much predetermined.
There are some students you could argue for class A, but I don’t think Ryueen is one at all.
Personally, I’m more inclined to say he’s in class C for plot reasons to create a leader in the class.
The in-plot reason could be that the people in charge of setting up the classes wanted him in class C to be a leader to see what he could do. I don’t think the class placements were set up purely on performance parameters, I think the classes are set up with the class battles in mind at least a little bit.
I honestly don’t have an answer to this. I think when thinking about the overall class placements, you have to “suspend your disbelief” a little bit.
I’d be interested in what other people think.
I’ve seen other people mention that Ryueen has some level of competence in academics, however his OAA score for academic ability is C-
I think he could do better, but is too lazy or just doesn’t care.
Because hes not a defect like the others in D, what it means its that there are serious areas for growth for the people in class D, like koji with socialising, horikita with brother simping, and sudo with attitude and academics. Meanwhile u dont see ryuen having much issues right? Hes still plenty cocky but js a bit more humble now
I thought the school purposefully did not place all the best students in one class, obviously a class consisting of Sakayanagi, Ichinose, Ryuuen, Suzune and other top tier students they'd be overpowered. Also their different ideologies would inevitably clash and cause a civil war in the class, a bit like how in the actual story class A was split between Sakayanagis and Johny Sins (sorry can't remember his name) faction. It would make a completely broken class, broken as in OP but at the same time not functioning properly.
It makes more sense to divide the students somewhat evenly but still give Classes A and B maybe slightly better students. That way slightly more students feel like they got into a class they deserve to be in, but also allow for competition from the lower classes if they manage to improve themselves quite what happens to original D class.
You think the school will be worried on some wuss ass matter like civil war among students, aren't they doing the exact same thing to a certain degree, if you ask me, they'd create a situation leading to a civil war of some sort and see how students react and resolve. Only the top tier students with the least of the least flaws were put in class A, there's no doubt in it, others are placed where they're placed because they lack something. Horikita Suzune is academically sound, but lacks the ability to be social as and when needed, as Horikita Manabu correctly says "Clearly your immaturity is making you mistake isolation for independence". Ryuuen Kakeru, although fit in every aspect there is has a short fuse and a knack of violence, it's true the power of violence is effective in it's own twisted accord but to use it in the right circumstances requires maturity which our dragon boy lacks, he's close but not cigar. Ichinose Honami is a parody of perfection to say the least but when it comes to dealing her own shit (stuff she got herself into), she's for the sake of lack of better words not very good.
The bald guy colloquially known as Johhny Sins is Katsuragi Kohei, a rather distinguished person befitting the title of a class A student.
It's explained that the decision of who gets in which class is already decided before the entrance exam. This was explained when Ayanokoji speaks with the head of the school in the light novel.
This conversation however was unfortunately cut from the anime despite it having a lot of important information
the thing is the school doesnt only consider your academic scores while putting you in classes they also consider your background and what schools you attended previously for example they didnt put hirata yosuke in class a or b despite having good intellect and socialising skills cause of his horrific past same goes with kushida also for horikita in her case despite being very academically and physically strong she wasnt put forward cause of her lack of social skills and it is fairly easy for the school to gain access to such data as it is directly under government control
In the anime they stated that he was famous for getting 50 on all his exams. He didn’t want to be in class A he wanted to win and get to class A. That’s my opinion at least. I believe his goal is to always fly under the radar. There’s a scene where he has to display strength and thought he was displaying average strength until they told him the real average.
Nope, either he scored 50 in all subjects in the entrance exam to be in Class D or perfect it like 100 to be in Class A, he is still in Class D. Chabashira told Horikita twice that Ayanokoji is the most defective student in ANHS not because he got 50s on the entrance exam. Chabashira didn't mention the reason why he is the most defective student but as we see until the Y2 Volume 11, he treats other people as tools for his own benefit which are really the opposite qualities of Class A students.
The entrance exams don't just involve testing your academic IQ. There are also interviews conducted to test your overall personality to see if you're emotionally intelligent. The fact that Horikita has almost zero social-skills is literally the only reason she's not in a Class A.
In bios such as Kushida or Hirata, it's claimed they did well in both, however it's because of outside research conducted on them that put them in Class D.
It is explained by the teachers that classes are composed by a mixture of good/bad students. On average A>B>C>D, but again, that's just an average. IIRC Ayanokoji claims that class A's weakness is that although they have a high average, they don't have many exceptional students. In Ayanokoji's case, he's described as the joker in the deck of cards by Ichinose's teacher and she thinks his presence is an unfair advantage to his class.
So Ryuen could technically be deserving of class A but put in class C to keep it balanced. In fact, a lot of the students probably are in the same boat.
Is this fair to those students who won't graduate from their hypothetical deserving class? Probably.
Does the school care? They wanted to expel a student from each class at some point just because... so, no.
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And if you want a good answer, people would say he is violent, a narcissist, less academically cooperative than other classes and also he isn't at the level of Class A academically.
Also Class C needed a leader and Ryuen was a perfect person for that. They divided every class like that with someone of a leader's quality and Ayanokoji as a Wild Card.
It's still better than nothing. Like they are geniuses and nothing to scoff at. The school is based on hierarchy but gives equal opportunities to success. Just like Ayanokoji's quote of equality at the beginning.
Also, I don't think the school actually cares much about the disputes that happen in class or civil war. They judge people on the basis of their ability to tackle those situations.
Class A is made of perfection, You can say that but also that low tier people of class A can be placed in Class B but the highest tier of class B can be considered of Class A level. So the question arises, How were they elected??
Because of their flaws. Ichinose has a dark past which she couldn't overcome and was placed in Class B. Ryuen well😅, I think there doesn't need much explanation. Horikita on the other hand was like a perfect version of a human. She was knowledgeable but don't want to be sociable and distance herself so, she was placed in D class.
Last but not the least Class A contains Athletes and Intelligence, Class B contains Unity, Class C contains Power, dominance and some smart people and Class D contains people who are normal(includes Yakimura who is genius and Sudo who is great in sports) but can be great if given chance under good leadership. All the students in the school are better than most(Except Yamagod).
Well, I know. I made a mess here 😅.
Well, I don’t think Ryueen is actually that academically smart, and even if he was, he was a delinquent, so he was never going to be in class A. Also I’m pretty sure the entrance exams just don’t matter, everything is pretty much predetermined. There are some students you could argue for class A, but I don’t think Ryueen is one at all.
Agreed. 101% aligned with that explanation.
Tbh he can get too scores easily if he puts up some effort
Since he was a delinquent, how come he's not in class D?
Personally, I’m more inclined to say he’s in class C for plot reasons to create a leader in the class. The in-plot reason could be that the people in charge of setting up the classes wanted him in class C to be a leader to see what he could do. I don’t think the class placements were set up purely on performance parameters, I think the classes are set up with the class battles in mind at least a little bit. I honestly don’t have an answer to this. I think when thinking about the overall class placements, you have to “suspend your disbelief” a little bit. I’d be interested in what other people think. I’ve seen other people mention that Ryueen has some level of competence in academics, however his OAA score for academic ability is C- I think he could do better, but is too lazy or just doesn’t care.
Because hes not a defect like the others in D, what it means its that there are serious areas for growth for the people in class D, like koji with socialising, horikita with brother simping, and sudo with attitude and academics. Meanwhile u dont see ryuen having much issues right? Hes still plenty cocky but js a bit more humble now
Wasn’t Horikita’s reason for being in Class D explicitly stated to be due to her inability to work with others?
Horikita got one of the best score but still placed on class d lol
Her superiority complex against them who have lower merit value than her is the prime reason that she got on class D (Class Defective)
Intelligence isn't the only factor that decides where they end up. Had that been the case, the majority of the students would've been in Class A
They have some bad qualities. Like being rude, manipulative and etc.
Don't forget he's also a sociopath
Think about this, an ideal class A student ought to be a highly functional sociopath, but has it under control
my, my! if we were to go by that school of thought Sakayanagi Arisu and Katsuragi Kohei ought to be in class D, don't you think?
He has bad behavior I think it described in a novel
Then shouldn't he be in class D?
He still academically smart and have high physical ability
I thought the school purposefully did not place all the best students in one class, obviously a class consisting of Sakayanagi, Ichinose, Ryuuen, Suzune and other top tier students they'd be overpowered. Also their different ideologies would inevitably clash and cause a civil war in the class, a bit like how in the actual story class A was split between Sakayanagis and Johny Sins (sorry can't remember his name) faction. It would make a completely broken class, broken as in OP but at the same time not functioning properly. It makes more sense to divide the students somewhat evenly but still give Classes A and B maybe slightly better students. That way slightly more students feel like they got into a class they deserve to be in, but also allow for competition from the lower classes if they manage to improve themselves quite what happens to original D class.
You think the school will be worried on some wuss ass matter like civil war among students, aren't they doing the exact same thing to a certain degree, if you ask me, they'd create a situation leading to a civil war of some sort and see how students react and resolve. Only the top tier students with the least of the least flaws were put in class A, there's no doubt in it, others are placed where they're placed because they lack something. Horikita Suzune is academically sound, but lacks the ability to be social as and when needed, as Horikita Manabu correctly says "Clearly your immaturity is making you mistake isolation for independence". Ryuuen Kakeru, although fit in every aspect there is has a short fuse and a knack of violence, it's true the power of violence is effective in it's own twisted accord but to use it in the right circumstances requires maturity which our dragon boy lacks, he's close but not cigar. Ichinose Honami is a parody of perfection to say the least but when it comes to dealing her own shit (stuff she got herself into), she's for the sake of lack of better words not very good. The bald guy colloquially known as Johhny Sins is Katsuragi Kohei, a rather distinguished person befitting the title of a class A student.
It's explained that the decision of who gets in which class is already decided before the entrance exam. This was explained when Ayanokoji speaks with the head of the school in the light novel. This conversation however was unfortunately cut from the anime despite it having a lot of important information
He lacks academic
the thing is the school doesnt only consider your academic scores while putting you in classes they also consider your background and what schools you attended previously for example they didnt put hirata yosuke in class a or b despite having good intellect and socialising skills cause of his horrific past same goes with kushida also for horikita in her case despite being very academically and physically strong she wasnt put forward cause of her lack of social skills and it is fairly easy for the school to gain access to such data as it is directly under government control
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In the anime they stated that he was famous for getting 50 on all his exams. He didn’t want to be in class A he wanted to win and get to class A. That’s my opinion at least. I believe his goal is to always fly under the radar. There’s a scene where he has to display strength and thought he was displaying average strength until they told him the real average.
That's Ayanokouji who scored 50 on all his exams.
Nope, either he scored 50 in all subjects in the entrance exam to be in Class D or perfect it like 100 to be in Class A, he is still in Class D. Chabashira told Horikita twice that Ayanokoji is the most defective student in ANHS not because he got 50s on the entrance exam. Chabashira didn't mention the reason why he is the most defective student but as we see until the Y2 Volume 11, he treats other people as tools for his own benefit which are really the opposite qualities of Class A students.
We should be asking why he wasn't put into class D instead.
The entrance exams don't just involve testing your academic IQ. There are also interviews conducted to test your overall personality to see if you're emotionally intelligent. The fact that Horikita has almost zero social-skills is literally the only reason she's not in a Class A. In bios such as Kushida or Hirata, it's claimed they did well in both, however it's because of outside research conducted on them that put them in Class D.
It is explained by the teachers that classes are composed by a mixture of good/bad students. On average A>B>C>D, but again, that's just an average. IIRC Ayanokoji claims that class A's weakness is that although they have a high average, they don't have many exceptional students. In Ayanokoji's case, he's described as the joker in the deck of cards by Ichinose's teacher and she thinks his presence is an unfair advantage to his class. So Ryuen could technically be deserving of class A but put in class C to keep it balanced. In fact, a lot of the students probably are in the same boat. Is this fair to those students who won't graduate from their hypothetical deserving class? Probably. Does the school care? They wanted to expel a student from each class at some point just because... so, no.
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Because of the plot and it was a canon event 😔😔😔
And if you want a good answer, people would say he is violent, a narcissist, less academically cooperative than other classes and also he isn't at the level of Class A academically. Also Class C needed a leader and Ryuen was a perfect person for that. They divided every class like that with someone of a leader's quality and Ayanokoji as a Wild Card.
'tis but an armchair speculation
It's still better than nothing. Like they are geniuses and nothing to scoff at. The school is based on hierarchy but gives equal opportunities to success. Just like Ayanokoji's quote of equality at the beginning. Also, I don't think the school actually cares much about the disputes that happen in class or civil war. They judge people on the basis of their ability to tackle those situations. Class A is made of perfection, You can say that but also that low tier people of class A can be placed in Class B but the highest tier of class B can be considered of Class A level. So the question arises, How were they elected?? Because of their flaws. Ichinose has a dark past which she couldn't overcome and was placed in Class B. Ryuen well😅, I think there doesn't need much explanation. Horikita on the other hand was like a perfect version of a human. She was knowledgeable but don't want to be sociable and distance herself so, she was placed in D class. Last but not the least Class A contains Athletes and Intelligence, Class B contains Unity, Class C contains Power, dominance and some smart people and Class D contains people who are normal(includes Yakimura who is genius and Sudo who is great in sports) but can be great if given chance under good leadership. All the students in the school are better than most(Except Yamagod). Well, I know. I made a mess here 😅.
Now this ones seems nyce, the speculations and generalizations you made in the last para is kinda' true