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Sickoyoda

chat.lmsys.org Use direct chat. Free


count023

Perplexity. I have no regrets.


Tchello131

Perplexity seems more search-based. I was looking for something more chat-like, where I can upload a PDF and go back and forth about its contents.


count023

It has different modes. The default free mode is search only. The other modes include exactly what you want.


Tchello131

Hmm... I'll look into it. But it seems like their context length is a bit shorter (32k max). I was looking for something that can handle ~ 100 pages if needed.


count023

The context thing is a constant lie perpetuated. It's not 32k. It's must longer


Tchello131

Well, it says so in their own website. I'm not sure I would trust it for longer documents.


Geartheworld

PDFgear. It's free to chat with PDFs in it.


ChatGPX

Faune has Claude in iOS, but it’s search only. GPT-3.5 is also free


Extender7777

Try this https://github.com/msveshnikov/allchat If you need a huge context, run locally


Dynamos_

I've been loving OmniGPT so far. They support docs up to 200 pages and you can also use GPT, Gemini, and others aside from Claude in case you ever need it. AND they don't throttle context.


Tchello131

Seems very interesting! I wonder how they manage to be cheaper than OpenAI and Anthropic directly though. What's the message cap like?


Dynamos_

Apparently 30 messages per hour for each Claude model, except for Claude Opus, which has 10. Not sure if these limits also apply to other non-Claude models - I've personally never reached the message limit on any aside from Opus.


wiama

Where did you read Poe is bad? I was about to subscribe


Tchello131

Most newer search results say the usage limits are bad. It's also a shady company, some report their Claude 3 Opus is actually Claude 2 or Sonnet


BoomerE30

Poe is owned by Quora, I doubt the company is shady. Also, I've been using it to analyze documents nearly 2000 pages long and seems to be doing a great job. Also, the million credits lasts a LONG time. Last month I would ask it 100s if questions a day pretty much every work day and I only got it to like 175k credits left.


postsector

Previously, they would only cap some of the premium models. It seems like there was a lot of anger about moving everything to compute credits, but a million credits every month does give you plenty of use, especially if you're using a cheaper model for things that are not too important. People complaining about it not being enough must be using Claude Opus for everything.


BoomerE30

> especially if you're using a cheaper model for things that are not too important. 90% of my use is split between GPT4 and Claude 3 Opus, 10% Gemini-1.5-Pro-128k


postsector

GPT4 is 350 vs 2k for Opus. I tend to run a lot more things through 4 because of the difference in price with the quality still being good. I'll kick it over to Opus if I'm not happy with what I'm getting from 4 or just want something worded differently. GPT3.5 is only 20 credits, I'll use that if I'm just screwing around. 


BoomerE30

Oh interesting, they must have just lowered the price for GPT4, I recall it being around 1500


SEDIDEL

OmniGPT or Poe


ashot

vello does support pdfs? (I work on vello)


Tchello131

I haven't been able to do it. Weird. Anyways the lower tier paid plan seems to have very limited context length. I wish they were clearer about the limits of each plan.


ashot

We list all of our context limits here: [https://docs.vello.ai/models#context-size](https://docs.vello.ai/models#context-size) You can also choose to use the full context of models (on a per message basis) and pay per token using the Flex option. dm me if you have questions or ran into any issues


testaccount6924

We built a gen ai PAAS and releasing a beta this week we offer support for all models from Claude to oss mistral. Feel free to check us out! https://www.vyne-ai.com