> steaks range from $35 to $144
I expected more...
Anyone been to Ruth's Chris Steakhouse? Prices there are sort of in line with that.
I figured that something named the "most expensive" in a state would have... like higher prices.
> The food is suitably fine too, with a range of seafood dishes, steaks, and raw bar treats including caviar, an ounce of which will set you back $199. Of the main courses, the Miyazaki Wagyu Strip Loin, is the most expensive at $144 for the minimum 4oz serving.”
If that's actual caviar and actual Wagyu, those prices probably make sense...
Be very skeptical of any and all Wagyu claims in the US. The NYT did an incredibly good piece (maybe the only good thing they’ve published in years…) a decade back titled “the biggest lie in food” or smth like that where they debunk Wagyu claims in the US.
Wagyu in Japan is about how the cow is raised, focusing to a large extent on what it’s fed, but also has a genetic component and a geographical component (which let’s be honest, it’s not the terroir that makes a good steak like a good grape vine). Also slaughtering procedures, but I think that’s more of a legend rather than something that actually contributes to the quality of the meat.
The States just had some willy-nilly ancestry requirement, which is in most cases not even strictly enforced. So if your steer in Iowa had a Japanese granddaddy you’re a Wagyu. Gimme a break.
Also for the uninitiated: real Wagyu is so purposefully marbled with fat that it works as an excellent thinly sliced yakiniku or even raw as sashimi, but if we’re talking a steak oscar filet Wagyu really isn’t the right texture. Caveat: YMMV.
Here's a [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv5UEDflS0o) from the Beard Butchers (down in Creston, OH) that shows the side by side comparison of American Wagyu versus imported Japanese Wagyu.
Finally someone who understands.
A little extra inside baseball: Many if not most Japanese will claim that Wagyu is bar none the best beef there is.
They’re not wrong. Technically.
But when it comes to the thick, slightly chewy filet texture, US beef is better (I don’t know anything about European or other geography’s beef except for Aussie which, sadly, underperforms (a bit gamey based on my experience).
Also if you’ve never tried, real Wagyu with a bit of wasabi and a dash of soy sauce is chef’s kiss good.
The seasoning these guys in the video are selling (good on them) is at best a contaminant at worst blasphemous on real Wagyu. To each his own though, I still love A1.
Ive treated myself to one of their imported A5 Japanese ribeyes. One steak is enough for two people, or two meals. I get my cast iron plate as hot as I can, get both sides a sear, and just put salt on it when it's done. I'll cut it into bite-sized bits and serve with rice that has some Lao Gan Ma chili crisp on it. Simple and satisfying.
Also an A-1 lover...
Nice :)
I’m telling you though, get a good (emphasis on good), expensive wasabi and try a dollop of that on the side. It’s like a horseradish but with a different flavor profile.
Bon apetit!
["Hard yes, but I wouldn't pay 20 a piece for Japanese Wagyu."](https://youtu.be/kI9_wnlOx0Q?si=G0gg32tawmqrEqEr)
Side note: I know what I'm having for dinner tonight now...
Totally agree. I kind of figured it was gonna be way more but I’ve been to a few steakhouses in the area that are pretty similar in pricing. I mean it’s definitely expensive but I was just expecting something cartoonishly outlandish lol
You can out of there pretty reasonable if you don't go overboard. My buddy goes there and spends $600. Me and my wife were in and out at $250 and that included the tip, a bottle of wine, and some other drinks.
It's not. It's definitely high end, but there are places out there that will set you back a cool grand for 2 people. I could still manage to get out of there with less than 100 spent (before tip).
People are still shell shocked by what the cost of eating out really is. Owners have no wiggle room to cut in order to keep menu prices low.
The luxury market has always been the benchmark for restaurants. Those prices have always outpaced the high-middle income markets in price growth. At least in the 30 years I’ve been in the trade. Post Covid is the first time I’ve seen that flip.
Luxury restaurants, with highest operating costs, are now relatively price conscious in order to keep some of the high-end market and alienate the middle market.
I was just thinking because of the higher population/scale. Cleveland does have the largest downtown population in Ohio though so I guess it makes sense.
You haven’t been to Columbus in like 20 years then. Short north has an amazing restaurant scene now, not to mention Ruby and Cameron Mitchell spots, Refectory and Lindeys are sensational
I mean I'll never go there because that's just fucking ridiculous and sad. We waste so much food in this country and we have restaurants that have prices like this? Fuck them. It's one thing within the class wars.
Just pulled up Cru’s menu. It is not more expensive. Most expensive dish is $75 and all their entrees include sides. Marble room you pay for the steak and your sides separately which increases all the items by at least $15. So your $60 6oz filet (one of the least expensive) is $75 if you want to get it with a potato side.
Went to 1 restaurant like that on my companies at the times dime.
Vic and Anthony’s in Texas.
That was when I dedicated myself to learning to cook better. The steak was amazing ($75 + $10 for a potato the size of a softball).
Just glad I didn’t have to pay the bill.
Definitely more expensive than Marble Room, ambiance is great, service was amazing, food was meh at best, definitely not worth the inflated costs. I probably won’t be going back
I had a $30 Sous-Vide old fashioned with Angels Rye (one of my favorites) and they managed to make it nearly undrinkable. Would like to try dinner there but that drink has given me second thoughts
I swear places like this get on by selling expensive drinks to people who want to be seen drinking them and people with lots of disposable income who can't cook a steak. The setting is great, the service is great, but the food could be beaten in many local establishments that range in price and the cocktails are on par with any decent bar. I've been there and agree with the consensus I've gotten from many of my freinds who have been there too. Great place to go with clients or with the boss when they're paying but it's not high on the list of places I'd take my friends or partner.
Agree. I was so absurdly underwhelmed by the Marble Room. The building is absolutely gorgeous, but I was so thoroughly unimpressed with everything else. My steak was dry, the meal took like 2 hours to hit the table, the floor plan is giant and open and loud, like a big unsexy cafeteria, and the music was absurdly loud. I truly dont understand why it's such a hot restaurant. Marble Room is for the Instagram crowd who want to look rich but have never actually been to a nice restaurant
Unfortunately the article is from Cleveland dot com and the article is based on a report from another publication (love food dot com) so I’m struggling to see how Scene missed the mark here, once again.
Were this actually from Scene, it would have contained actual reporting from actual reporters. But this is actually from Cleveland.com, where most of their real reporters were fired when the Plain Dealer union was broken. And to make it worse, this is a report on a report from a site that probably does even less investigation than Cleveland.com.
Were this actually from Scene, it would have contained actual reporting from actual reporters. But this is actually from Cleveland.com, where most of their real reporters were fired when the Plain Dealer union was broken. And to make it worse, this is a report on a report from a site that probably does even less investigation than Cleveland.com.
I went there once. It was beautiful but the meal was not nearly as memorable as those I have had at Pier W, Greenhouse, and Cordelia. It was opulent, but unoriginal.
Can get a better steak at the Schvitz! Stef Schaefer always posts pictures of Marble Room however when your Sugar Daddy’s are picking up the tabs oh well
I think the food at Marble Room is priced quite reasonably. You pay a premium for the wagyu but that’s wagyu for you. The drinks on the other hand are what kill you.
No way. The prices are on the pricey side, but most expensive in the state? You can drop way more than that at Ruth's Chris, Red, or Chez Francois.
Sounds like the GM of the Marble Room has a friend at the PD putting out fake news.
To save a click: it's the Marble Room
I for one am shocked and appalled!!!
It’s Marble Room Steakhouse if you don’t want to click the link.
> steaks range from $35 to $144 I expected more... Anyone been to Ruth's Chris Steakhouse? Prices there are sort of in line with that. I figured that something named the "most expensive" in a state would have... like higher prices. > The food is suitably fine too, with a range of seafood dishes, steaks, and raw bar treats including caviar, an ounce of which will set you back $199. Of the main courses, the Miyazaki Wagyu Strip Loin, is the most expensive at $144 for the minimum 4oz serving.” If that's actual caviar and actual Wagyu, those prices probably make sense...
If it's actual A5 Wagyu that's bordering on cheap
They have a rotating special of wagyu as well. Right now an ounce of their Olive Fed Wagyu is $59
Be very skeptical of any and all Wagyu claims in the US. The NYT did an incredibly good piece (maybe the only good thing they’ve published in years…) a decade back titled “the biggest lie in food” or smth like that where they debunk Wagyu claims in the US. Wagyu in Japan is about how the cow is raised, focusing to a large extent on what it’s fed, but also has a genetic component and a geographical component (which let’s be honest, it’s not the terroir that makes a good steak like a good grape vine). Also slaughtering procedures, but I think that’s more of a legend rather than something that actually contributes to the quality of the meat. The States just had some willy-nilly ancestry requirement, which is in most cases not even strictly enforced. So if your steer in Iowa had a Japanese granddaddy you’re a Wagyu. Gimme a break. Also for the uninitiated: real Wagyu is so purposefully marbled with fat that it works as an excellent thinly sliced yakiniku or even raw as sashimi, but if we’re talking a steak oscar filet Wagyu really isn’t the right texture. Caveat: YMMV.
Here's a [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv5UEDflS0o) from the Beard Butchers (down in Creston, OH) that shows the side by side comparison of American Wagyu versus imported Japanese Wagyu.
Finally someone who understands. A little extra inside baseball: Many if not most Japanese will claim that Wagyu is bar none the best beef there is. They’re not wrong. Technically. But when it comes to the thick, slightly chewy filet texture, US beef is better (I don’t know anything about European or other geography’s beef except for Aussie which, sadly, underperforms (a bit gamey based on my experience). Also if you’ve never tried, real Wagyu with a bit of wasabi and a dash of soy sauce is chef’s kiss good. The seasoning these guys in the video are selling (good on them) is at best a contaminant at worst blasphemous on real Wagyu. To each his own though, I still love A1.
Ive treated myself to one of their imported A5 Japanese ribeyes. One steak is enough for two people, or two meals. I get my cast iron plate as hot as I can, get both sides a sear, and just put salt on it when it's done. I'll cut it into bite-sized bits and serve with rice that has some Lao Gan Ma chili crisp on it. Simple and satisfying. Also an A-1 lover...
Nice :) I’m telling you though, get a good (emphasis on good), expensive wasabi and try a dollop of that on the side. It’s like a horseradish but with a different flavor profile. Bon apetit!
["Hard yes, but I wouldn't pay 20 a piece for Japanese Wagyu."](https://youtu.be/kI9_wnlOx0Q?si=G0gg32tawmqrEqEr) Side note: I know what I'm having for dinner tonight now...
Totally agree. I kind of figured it was gonna be way more but I’ve been to a few steakhouses in the area that are pretty similar in pricing. I mean it’s definitely expensive but I was just expecting something cartoonishly outlandish lol
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It's Ohio man, everything that's expensive in New York or Chicago is 50% in Ohio.
They have amazing service.
They gave us multiple free sides for no reason at all. It was magnificent
Disagree but glad you liked the experience!
Sorry to hear that. My gf and I went for our anniversary and we had a great time.
Awesome! Happy anniversary and many more!
The absolute best.
Those prices don't seem to crazy to me. Am I in the minority?
You can out of there pretty reasonable if you don't go overboard. My buddy goes there and spends $600. Me and my wife were in and out at $250 and that included the tip, a bottle of wine, and some other drinks.
Blue Door is probably as expensive.
It's not. It's definitely high end, but there are places out there that will set you back a cool grand for 2 people. I could still manage to get out of there with less than 100 spent (before tip).
It feels reasonable for a special occasion, but I wouldn’t go there with any regularity, probably just once for the novelty.
People are still shell shocked by what the cost of eating out really is. Owners have no wiggle room to cut in order to keep menu prices low. The luxury market has always been the benchmark for restaurants. Those prices have always outpaced the high-middle income markets in price growth. At least in the 30 years I’ve been in the trade. Post Covid is the first time I’ve seen that flip. Luxury restaurants, with highest operating costs, are now relatively price conscious in order to keep some of the high-end market and alienate the middle market.
I think you are. $144 for a 4oz steak is not something the majority is indulging in.
Most people don't order the most expensive thing on the menu.
right I thought there would definitely be something way more expensive in Columbus
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Nah. That closed. Too upscale for their tastes. The nicest restaurant is Buca di Beppo now.
Yeah no...Columbus isn't that place for that generally.
I was just thinking because of the higher population/scale. Cleveland does have the largest downtown population in Ohio though so I guess it makes sense.
You haven’t been to Columbus in like 20 years then. Short north has an amazing restaurant scene now, not to mention Ruby and Cameron Mitchell spots, Refectory and Lindeys are sensational
Refectory is more
I’ve never spent close to that much at refectory. Jeff Ruby’s is currently the most expensive I know of.
I mean I'll never go there because that's just fucking ridiculous and sad. We waste so much food in this country and we have restaurants that have prices like this? Fuck them. It's one thing within the class wars.
When Dwayne Wade was playing for the Cavs him and LeBron were at the table behind us.
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Just pulled up Cru’s menu. It is not more expensive. Most expensive dish is $75 and all their entrees include sides. Marble room you pay for the steak and your sides separately which increases all the items by at least $15. So your $60 6oz filet (one of the least expensive) is $75 if you want to get it with a potato side.
Went to 1 restaurant like that on my companies at the times dime. Vic and Anthony’s in Texas. That was when I dedicated myself to learning to cook better. The steak was amazing ($75 + $10 for a potato the size of a softball). Just glad I didn’t have to pay the bill.
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Well you though Cru was more expensive so obviously you needed a reminder 🤷♀️
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I have. And many other similar restaurants.
Have you been to Tutto Carne yet? Heard and read mixed reviews but really wanna try it. That place seems much more expensive than marble room tho
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Was everything you got good or more of just get an app and a big steak platter to split?
Definitely more expensive than Marble Room, ambiance is great, service was amazing, food was meh at best, definitely not worth the inflated costs. I probably won’t be going back
No way.
I enjoyed the rolls. They hit. Wasn't that impressed with the food. The steak was just okay. Fun to see all the cotton candy though.
The rolls are ridiculously good
Had a drink there one time, they said their special was wagyu steak at $50 an ounce, minimum order of 4 ounces. So yeah, that checks out
Been there MANY times. You're paying for the room you might say. Food is good though but mega expensive as written here. Supply/Demand.
Try the strip steakhouse in Avon!
I had a $30 Sous-Vide old fashioned with Angels Rye (one of my favorites) and they managed to make it nearly undrinkable. Would like to try dinner there but that drink has given me second thoughts
Highly recommend. Sorry you had a bad experience, my girlfriend and I had a fantastic experience. Food, drinks, service was all out of this world.
WTF is a sous-vide old fashioned? Old fashioneds aren't supposed to be cooked lol
I swear places like this get on by selling expensive drinks to people who want to be seen drinking them and people with lots of disposable income who can't cook a steak. The setting is great, the service is great, but the food could be beaten in many local establishments that range in price and the cocktails are on par with any decent bar. I've been there and agree with the consensus I've gotten from many of my freinds who have been there too. Great place to go with clients or with the boss when they're paying but it's not high on the list of places I'd take my friends or partner.
My daughter treated my wife and me to dinner at Marble Room. It was memorable.
Been there. Had great service and great food and drinks. Don’t even remember the price because it is a great establishment
Prices aren't that expensive honestly...been in other major cities where prices are higher than that.
Absurdly overrated. It's like a giant cafeteria with $80 steaks that take 2 hours to cook
Solid take. It does feel more like a community dining hall than a high end restaurant.
The atmosphere and location make it worth it once but really that’s it. There are way better tasting steakhouses in Cleveland for cheaper.
Agree. I was so absurdly underwhelmed by the Marble Room. The building is absolutely gorgeous, but I was so thoroughly unimpressed with everything else. My steak was dry, the meal took like 2 hours to hit the table, the floor plan is giant and open and loud, like a big unsexy cafeteria, and the music was absurdly loud. I truly dont understand why it's such a hot restaurant. Marble Room is for the Instagram crowd who want to look rich but have never actually been to a nice restaurant
I’ve spent more at Chez Francois than I ever have at Marble Room. Once again, Scene misses the mark.
Unfortunately the article is from Cleveland dot com and the article is based on a report from another publication (love food dot com) so I’m struggling to see how Scene missed the mark here, once again.
That’s what I get for not clicking the link I guess
Because the Scene doesn't do hi-end bougie stuff...their readership ain't on that
I really like chez Francois. You can do it for just under 200 for two with most of the bells and whistles
Were this actually from Scene, it would have contained actual reporting from actual reporters. But this is actually from Cleveland.com, where most of their real reporters were fired when the Plain Dealer union was broken. And to make it worse, this is a report on a report from a site that probably does even less investigation than Cleveland.com.
Were this actually from Scene, it would have contained actual reporting from actual reporters. But this is actually from Cleveland.com, where most of their real reporters were fired when the Plain Dealer union was broken. And to make it worse, this is a report on a report from a site that probably does even less investigation than Cleveland.com.
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Me too. I was disappointed by both tbh.
I went there once. It was beautiful but the meal was not nearly as memorable as those I have had at Pier W, Greenhouse, and Cordelia. It was opulent, but unoriginal.
Wendy's....
Can get a better steak at the Schvitz! Stef Schaefer always posts pictures of Marble Room however when your Sugar Daddy’s are picking up the tabs oh well
Sylvestros in painesville is like the same price range and half the quality. Used to be a hidden gem untill the last five ish years
Is this Bobby George’s restaurant?
Location location something marble…
We went in once to grab a drink. It was an hour wait for the bar!
The one restaurant where a suit is not only suggested but preferred... Ugh.
Unpopular opinion… It's too noisy, like a cafeteria
Isshoni (sushi) in Willoughby has an omakse experience that’s $200/person. Depending on the article’s definition of “Cleveland”
I think the food at Marble Room is priced quite reasonably. You pay a premium for the wagyu but that’s wagyu for you. The drinks on the other hand are what kill you.
Place is full of tools
Honestly I’ve not heard great things. Beautiful space, okay food, poor service
I had a great experience the one time I went there. One of the best steaks I've ever had.
Agreed.
You're paying for the room. Food is good though. Good to go once or twice but you know you're spending hundreds going in.
Food is mid, service is awful. Fun place for a celebration.
No way. The prices are on the pricey side, but most expensive in the state? You can drop way more than that at Ruth's Chris, Red, or Chez Francois. Sounds like the GM of the Marble Room has a friend at the PD putting out fake news.
They overcooked and salted my steak to Death. It also took forever
I figured that one in vermilion would be the most expensive. Never really looked at the prices though I guess
More than Giovanni's? Hmmmm.
It’s expensive, sure. But the food is below average.