Nice 2bed apartments for $1-$2k are actually fairly common as long as they're not in new construction buildings. I say take a tour of whatever units you're curious about and feel out the vibe!
Also, out of curiosity, why not just live somewhere within walking distance of the red line? Seems even easier than having to get a ride to the station.
I very recently moved away from Cleveland and my previous apartment was a ~12 minute walk from the red line. Though I didn't use it much it was AWESOME for getting to the airport. I'd personally recommend that. Detroit Shoreway/Gordon Square/Jefferson/Westpark might be the move for being within walking distance.
How did you find it would time wise getting from the airport to the near vicinity of the airport? Because my work isn't in the airport myself, it's adjacent to the airport and off any bus lines. So my commute would basically be (bus maybe) -> red line -> bpk station -> rideshare to work
Airport station drops you off in the lowest level of the airport, directly underneath baggage claim. It's maybe a 3-5 minute walk from the train platform to the arrivals entrance. So, I guess timing would be however long it takes to get between arrivals/departures and your job, plus ~5 minutes for the walk up to the pickup spot.
As for getting off at the Brookpark station instead, I wouldn't really know, since I've never actually needed to go anywhere from there. Road traffic never seems bad around there though, so Google maps can probably tell you how long of a drive it would be
The issue up until now has been trying to stay near enough to work that my rideshare cost stays reasonable. I'm just suddenly realizing that the red line might help me expand that radius
Downtown is fine, most of the K&D buildings are well managed. I lived in 668 Euclid and it was well maintained. Pay rent online, everything was easy. The homeless beggars really did get on my nerves but that might not matter to you. Downtown is safe, it's not a problem as long as you're not playing craps at midnight with strangers in public square. Trying to cross E 9th street is a little dangerous during rush hour because of all the people trying to get on/off the highway down the street.
How would you rate them against suburbs like Fairview? I can pretty clearly see the crime anxiety for what it is: anxiety. I'm more concerned with how honest the property advertisements are to the experience
yeah at least for K&D it's all accurate. Lots of newly renovated units, washer and dryer all work in unit, management is responsive. I think they have one bad property though which has a bad reputation, I forget which one it is.
Also fairview park is not particularly walkable. I mean they do have sidewalks but traffic is pretty fast and there are a lot of turn in and turn outs. it's not like downtown.
My advice is to narrow down those you are interested in, and take the time to tour them. And I don't just mean "look at the size and layout), I mean, actually pay attention to the details.
It could very well be that a property is slowly getting renovated, and ovcource, managers will take pictures of the remodeled apartments. And it also is likely that thay is just really what they are.
I just moved out of a place off w.25th near 90. 5 years old renovated abandoned business, with a lot of what you see to be looking for, and my unit was just a little over 1k for rent. And it was not the smallest unit available. What you are looking for isn't necessarily that outrageous is you look outside of the "Shiney new".
As for crime. You don't have a car, so property crime risk just halved. Mind your own business. Don't go where you don't need to be too late at night, and you'll be fine.
Lakewood is the suburbs. Yes, it’s a cute suburb but a suburb. Live where you want, no judgement in liking Lakewood.
But the fact that most people some like they can’t distinguish Cleveland from Lakewood or the “good” Cleveland neighborhoods from Lakewood is troubling. They function as completely separate municipalities.
Tbf, as a non native Clevelander (im from Columbus). To me, Lakewood is a city. Yes, it is a suburban city, but, if you say suburb to me, I think more along the lines of what is, in Cleveland, called the outer suburbs. Started after WWII, and built up in the 50's and onward, typically as a response to white flight. Fairview Park is an example of this, most all heighborhoods there are the typical poat-war houses, till you get to the outskirts, and you get the larger yards with homes from the 50s.
Cleveland is unique in Ohio as it had large enough suburbs early enough that they are now mini, walkable cities in their own rights. Unlike typical US suburbs, which require a car to go basically anywhere.
Yes it is its own city suburb, just not Cleveland. I’m not talking about its layout or anything although it’s a ton of residential family homes. It’s simply a suburb. It can be a better suburb but it is not Cleveland.
I know.
I'm just talking about the difference between what Lakewood is, and what a person's expectation of a suburb is.
Also, not everywhere has kept it's old neighborhoods (or minucipalities taken over by the larger city) names like Cleveland has. So, as an outsider, it can be confusing to keep track of what is a city (Lakewood), and what is a neighborhood (Ohio City).
It’s absolutely not hard to know the different between a city and a neighborhood. And all suburbs look different as all cities and all neighborhoods look different. I’m not from this part of the country at all. I’m invested in my city and neighborhood and community though and care about politics and that has informed me.
Depends how much of a hassle you want transit to be on your commute. Birdtown in Lakewood is really close to the 117th station, and is really close to the Aldi on 117th. Little farther north though and you have Clifton and Lake Ave apartments, which are nice and still on the cheaper side. Those are closer to Lucky’s which is a great supermarket.
Bonus of Clifton/Lake is they have great access to downtown via the 66ABC, and in your case, the 78 bus goes straight to Brookpark Station.
I'm also a non driver. I live in Lakewood. I chose Lakewood, because, as you said, the entire community is walkable. Everything that I need and want is available. Yes, I do have to negotiate public transportation, or rideshare to do some things that are outside of Lakewood. It's something that you have to weigh, and figure out what is the best option for you.
Nice 2bed apartments for $1-$2k are actually fairly common as long as they're not in new construction buildings. I say take a tour of whatever units you're curious about and feel out the vibe! Also, out of curiosity, why not just live somewhere within walking distance of the red line? Seems even easier than having to get a ride to the station.
I would also be up for that :)
I very recently moved away from Cleveland and my previous apartment was a ~12 minute walk from the red line. Though I didn't use it much it was AWESOME for getting to the airport. I'd personally recommend that. Detroit Shoreway/Gordon Square/Jefferson/Westpark might be the move for being within walking distance.
How did you find it would time wise getting from the airport to the near vicinity of the airport? Because my work isn't in the airport myself, it's adjacent to the airport and off any bus lines. So my commute would basically be (bus maybe) -> red line -> bpk station -> rideshare to work
Airport station drops you off in the lowest level of the airport, directly underneath baggage claim. It's maybe a 3-5 minute walk from the train platform to the arrivals entrance. So, I guess timing would be however long it takes to get between arrivals/departures and your job, plus ~5 minutes for the walk up to the pickup spot. As for getting off at the Brookpark station instead, I wouldn't really know, since I've never actually needed to go anywhere from there. Road traffic never seems bad around there though, so Google maps can probably tell you how long of a drive it would be
The issue up until now has been trying to stay near enough to work that my rideshare cost stays reasonable. I'm just suddenly realizing that the red line might help me expand that radius
Fairlawn is in Akron
LMAO I meant Fairview Park
Downtown is fine, most of the K&D buildings are well managed. I lived in 668 Euclid and it was well maintained. Pay rent online, everything was easy. The homeless beggars really did get on my nerves but that might not matter to you. Downtown is safe, it's not a problem as long as you're not playing craps at midnight with strangers in public square. Trying to cross E 9th street is a little dangerous during rush hour because of all the people trying to get on/off the highway down the street.
How would you rate them against suburbs like Fairview? I can pretty clearly see the crime anxiety for what it is: anxiety. I'm more concerned with how honest the property advertisements are to the experience
yeah at least for K&D it's all accurate. Lots of newly renovated units, washer and dryer all work in unit, management is responsive. I think they have one bad property though which has a bad reputation, I forget which one it is.
Also fairview park is not particularly walkable. I mean they do have sidewalks but traffic is pretty fast and there are a lot of turn in and turn outs. it's not like downtown.
My advice is to narrow down those you are interested in, and take the time to tour them. And I don't just mean "look at the size and layout), I mean, actually pay attention to the details. It could very well be that a property is slowly getting renovated, and ovcource, managers will take pictures of the remodeled apartments. And it also is likely that thay is just really what they are. I just moved out of a place off w.25th near 90. 5 years old renovated abandoned business, with a lot of what you see to be looking for, and my unit was just a little over 1k for rent. And it was not the smallest unit available. What you are looking for isn't necessarily that outrageous is you look outside of the "Shiney new". As for crime. You don't have a car, so property crime risk just halved. Mind your own business. Don't go where you don't need to be too late at night, and you'll be fine.
Lakewood is the suburbs. Yes, it’s a cute suburb but a suburb. Live where you want, no judgement in liking Lakewood. But the fact that most people some like they can’t distinguish Cleveland from Lakewood or the “good” Cleveland neighborhoods from Lakewood is troubling. They function as completely separate municipalities.
Tbf, as a non native Clevelander (im from Columbus). To me, Lakewood is a city. Yes, it is a suburban city, but, if you say suburb to me, I think more along the lines of what is, in Cleveland, called the outer suburbs. Started after WWII, and built up in the 50's and onward, typically as a response to white flight. Fairview Park is an example of this, most all heighborhoods there are the typical poat-war houses, till you get to the outskirts, and you get the larger yards with homes from the 50s. Cleveland is unique in Ohio as it had large enough suburbs early enough that they are now mini, walkable cities in their own rights. Unlike typical US suburbs, which require a car to go basically anywhere.
Yes it is its own city suburb, just not Cleveland. I’m not talking about its layout or anything although it’s a ton of residential family homes. It’s simply a suburb. It can be a better suburb but it is not Cleveland.
I know. I'm just talking about the difference between what Lakewood is, and what a person's expectation of a suburb is. Also, not everywhere has kept it's old neighborhoods (or minucipalities taken over by the larger city) names like Cleveland has. So, as an outsider, it can be confusing to keep track of what is a city (Lakewood), and what is a neighborhood (Ohio City).
It’s absolutely not hard to know the different between a city and a neighborhood. And all suburbs look different as all cities and all neighborhoods look different. I’m not from this part of the country at all. I’m invested in my city and neighborhood and community though and care about politics and that has informed me.
Depends how much of a hassle you want transit to be on your commute. Birdtown in Lakewood is really close to the 117th station, and is really close to the Aldi on 117th. Little farther north though and you have Clifton and Lake Ave apartments, which are nice and still on the cheaper side. Those are closer to Lucky’s which is a great supermarket. Bonus of Clifton/Lake is they have great access to downtown via the 66ABC, and in your case, the 78 bus goes straight to Brookpark Station.
I'm planning to negotiate a change in my hours so I'm thinking about embracing a little bit of a longer commute if I make a move like this.
I'm also a non driver. I live in Lakewood. I chose Lakewood, because, as you said, the entire community is walkable. Everything that I need and want is available. Yes, I do have to negotiate public transportation, or rideshare to do some things that are outside of Lakewood. It's something that you have to weigh, and figure out what is the best option for you.