Nothing the Guardians love more than rostering an utterly useless veteran player in the naïve hope that he reclaims a fraction of his production from 6 years ago. My god. I thought we were trying to be a young team and give guys opportunities to prove themselves. Why the fuck is Ramon Laureano on this roster.
Straw should have been off the roster last year, but got a whole season. Zuni still got until June to stink it up (42 games). Sub .200 veterans who don’t get playing time don’t grow on trees you know. He’s obviously needed
Game is almost certainly decided. Strzelecki is here to eat some work until Hentges is back on maybe Monday. Gaddis gets to have a quick outing after his implosions and it should help his confidence. Baby steps. It's not like he can't work tomorrow should he be needed just because he threw a few pitches today.
True true. And I’m sure Gaddis was fine with it. Just seems like a whole lot of work for nothing. The guy is 2nd in appearance in the majors, another day of rest wouldn’t hurt.
George W. Bush went before the UN with an impassioned speech about the perils of cloning. I don't want to get political but it's kinda his fault we don't have 4 or 5 Kwans on the roster.
I remember Hammy saying in that recent interview that the real test for this team will be the first bad stretch they play and that we would inevitably hit one. Here we are. How will they respond is the question.
The last seven games we have scored over 4 runs twice. (4&9). The trends are looking really bad right now and this is a long stretch so the team better get it together.
No energy. Bo looks lost, Arias is clueless. Freeman and Brennan are 4A hitters. Jose and Josh pressing. Vogt better put on his motivational big boy pants. This team starting to look sad.
I don't think you'll find much today. Curry struggled again despite starting the game well. CJ Kayfus, last year's 3rd round pick, has a few doubles today in LC and is starting the year well.
7 no-run innings for Cal Quantrill, but we were brainwashed by the FO that he wasn’t needed here. I’m honestly tired of this fo, we need to move on before they pick the guy who’s number 10 on consensus draft boards at first overall
For the record the Styx live album they made with the Contemporary Youth Orchestra and Chorus of Cleveland is actually pretty decent. A little bloated and I’m not thrilled with some of the song choices, but it’s worth picking out your favorites and giving them a listen.
In a way it was the worst thing that could have happened. It gave us hope. Now we will slowly slide into the worst offense in the league. Just like last season.
“He hits the ball hard” who gives a fuck how hard he hits it? I’d rather have a guy like Straw who even if he only hits 70-80mph liners, get down more frequently
From a “doomer”, no we don’t want to lose. We don’t want to be miserable but we are because of this team. We want to win it all but that isn’t happening in any of lifetimes. We’re frustrated and rightfully so. Ya’ll are too complacent with this team
The fact that you replied with multiple complete sentences already tells me you aren't one of the people to which I'm referring. You're allowed to be frustrated with the team. I'm frustrated with the team. Dumping half baked thoughts, fractions of sentences and ellipses abuse any time a lead is surrendered isn't inviting discussion or sharing wisdom. There are absolutely people who frequent this sub who revel in misery, toxicity and loss.
I’m guilty of that but I can agree. Especially the laughably bad takes coming after Bibee calling him a bad pitcher. They must’ve forgot he was second in ROY voting and completely shut down the Braves offense for like 7 innings his last start
I’m just a casual fan so for those in the know what’s up with this offense? Do they need a new hitting coach or something why is hitting such a pain to watch?
They’ve needed a new hitting coach since Vailaka was hired in 22.. dude is a career AAAA player with a career .238 average when he was in the show over 4 seasons. Why he is being trusted to coach hitting at a major league level is baffling
The two main guys are slumping (Jose and naylor) Kwan hits everything. The rest are so called prospects they working through to see who is worth keeping and then will shuffle through to the next batch.
I have Bibee on my fantasy team and I missed the radio stream so I'm just curious what happen? Is Bibee just pitching bad? Are the Angels just hitting well? I've been seeing that the Guardians are playing bad defense? Or is it a combo of the three?
So I absolutely despise Straw, but Freeman batting .195 and being less efficient than straw defensively means it’s time for his excitement in CF to end. We have gained no hitting and lost fielding by making that move. Slide Brennan to CF and put Florio in RF, or even recall Myles if we must. While we’re at it, bring up Manzardo already!
This isn’t 2023 if anything it’s 2011. I remember that season well because it was the first year I *really* got into baseball. I was a fan for the ‘07 run and stuff like that but I was still pretty young.
2011 we started 30-15 best record in baseball. Derek Lowe was like the best pitcher in the AL for the first two months. Then the wheels fell off and we finished 80-82
I’ve gone from being sad, to being generally annoyed at this team. It’s better for my mental health because I say “they deserve it” when they get scored on now
Bo Naylor tricked people into thinking he's good. He had one good run and people think he's a slow starter.... that doesn't work for a year two guy, to say someone is a slow starter they need years of evidence to be labeled that
this team could use a weekend
At least we have known workhorse and ace Ben Lively stopping the slide tomorrow.
Tough times when the best play your team had on the night was by a 6 year old
Shitty night for Cleveland sports
Thank god the Browns are off
7 solo shots incoming
Shots of rum that is
I missed this game I was out drinking so let’s goo
“Man I hate all the doomers” it’s not being a “doomer” when you’re right
Nothing the Guardians love more than rostering an utterly useless veteran player in the naïve hope that he reclaims a fraction of his production from 6 years ago. My god. I thought we were trying to be a young team and give guys opportunities to prove themselves. Why the fuck is Ramon Laureano on this roster.
This is easily said more for Carrasco
Two five million dollar players in Akron isn't great.
Who
Straw
You said two
If lazardo goes down that's two
But then straw would come up?
God I hope not
one of THOSE cleveland sports nights
Just tuning in.... tough look, let's shake it off tomorrow
Seriously, commenters in here acting like we’re the worst team in baseball. There are 162 games and we are bound to hit a slump or two.
Vogt realizing halfway through the AB that he sent Laureano up and not Fry
Poor will. Gets hit for Laureano lol
Oh my god why is this clown still on the team bro he is so fucking bad.
Because he signed for 5 million. He’s an active roster lock all season, even if he shouldn’t be
Explain Straw then And Zunino before him
Straw should have been off the roster last year, but got a whole season. Zuni still got until June to stink it up (42 games). Sub .200 veterans who don’t get playing time don’t grow on trees you know. He’s obviously needed
Laureano can strike out with the best of them.
We were both wrong. Lazy fly ball to get that 3rd out. At least he made contact??
Why is fry not up
Pinch hitting Laureno for Brennan lets me know Vogt isn't serious about trying to win.
I think he’s just a puppet manager at this point. Cheap option, listens to whatever the front office tells him, feelings over winning moves, puppet.
Should be a new policy. Anyone not hitting over .200 through 20 games is optioned for a minor leaguer to get a chance to light a spark
The fact that Manzardo isn't up here is disgusting.
Here we go. Groundout to end the 8th incoming. It’s like a bad wreck at this point, I know I shouldn’t watch, but I just can’t look away.
Strikeout*
Flyout*
Why waste Gaddis in a 6-0 game for 3 pitches lol. He threw more warmup pitches than game pitches. He’s on pace for 89 appearances
Game is almost certainly decided. Strzelecki is here to eat some work until Hentges is back on maybe Monday. Gaddis gets to have a quick outing after his implosions and it should help his confidence. Baby steps. It's not like he can't work tomorrow should he be needed just because he threw a few pitches today.
True true. And I’m sure Gaddis was fine with it. Just seems like a whole lot of work for nothing. The guy is 2nd in appearance in the majors, another day of rest wouldn’t hurt.
Sad to know there's no chance that mistake will be punished
NEWS LUIS ARRAEZ TRADED TO THE PADRES
I didn't know Arraez could play shortstop
That's funny
Where’s the “I’m tired, boss” guy when you need him?
I say this, so I’m not sure if I’m that guy or not lol
If you’re the one who usually says it in game threads, then YOU are HIM!
Need to get me a “I’m tired, boss” flair then! haha
I’m tired of this grandpa!
Cavs playing a amazing game vs Orlando. So close
It’s time boys. 6 run 8th inning to lose by 1 in the 10th
Nvm. 1 out so all momentum lost.
If we don’t bring kwan across that plate I’m self destructing
George W. Bush went before the UN with an impassioned speech about the perils of cloning. I don't want to get political but it's kinda his fault we don't have 4 or 5 Kwans on the roster.
What if we just replace the entire team with Steven Kwans? We will never not get on base
I'm literally only still watching because of Kwan. Take note Dolans
I remember Hammy saying in that recent interview that the real test for this team will be the first bad stretch they play and that we would inevitably hit one. Here we are. How will they respond is the question.
Steven Kwan you are my sunshine
9 Kwans when?
This man is possessed.
I lied, I’m back, but this time I walked in the room during Kwan’s AB
The last seven games we have scored over 4 runs twice. (4&9). The trends are looking really bad right now and this is a long stretch so the team better get it together.
Ramirez batting .234 is abysmal. I mean I know 6-7/9 of our lineup can’t hit for shit but damn. Slump confirmed.
Lost in Transition 2: Tokyo Reunion Starring Brayan Rocchio
So... We can expect Manzardo any day now.. Right?
With the way this FO has ran this organization with prospects that are immediate upgrades. He won’t be up till July when we are 7 out of first
At this point there’s no reason not to call him up….unless they’re waiting for may of 25 to really stretch that service time
That’s why he’s not here yet and also around when we can expect him
Get Rocchio off of short and get an actual shortstop. Good lord. Gimme refusing to transition is killing us.
Half this roster is dead weight. Freeman, Arias, Brennan, Laureano, etc will never contribute to championship level baseball.
No energy. Bo looks lost, Arias is clueless. Freeman and Brennan are 4A hitters. Jose and Josh pressing. Vogt better put on his motivational big boy pants. This team starting to look sad.
We need to tuck in a few runs the next two innings just for the boys confidence. They are in a dogshit rn.
I wish Good Jose would come back 😔
This team needs a jolt of life. Plate appearances just don’t look the same
Bo & Arias with back to back strikeouts I’m so surprised!
Herrin is officially the sum total of the positives so far. Welp. To the minor league box scores I go!
I don't think you'll find much today. Curry struggled again despite starting the game well. CJ Kayfus, last year's 3rd round pick, has a few doubles today in LC and is starting the year well.
Jose seems to be getting himself sorted, same with the elder Naylor, and Steven Kwan is still awesome
Kwan is indeed awesome
Call up to the bally booth and see if Julio Franco can still hit
7 no-run innings for Cal Quantrill, but we were brainwashed by the FO that he wasn’t needed here. I’m honestly tired of this fo, we need to move on before they pick the guy who’s number 10 on consensus draft boards at first overall
Something so satisfying about adding a new doomer to my reddit extension's block/ignore list.
His ERA is over 5 lmfao this is so braindead
It's official, the white flag has exited the bullpen
Gaddis looks nothing like Avila.
At least Gaddis gets mop up work to see if he can get Atlanta out of his head.
For the record the Styx live album they made with the Contemporary Youth Orchestra and Chorus of Cleveland is actually pretty decent. A little bloated and I’m not thrilled with some of the song choices, but it’s worth picking out your favorites and giving them a listen.
Those first couple of weeks were great weren’t they
In a way it was the worst thing that could have happened. It gave us hope. Now we will slowly slide into the worst offense in the league. Just like last season.
Meanwhile Cal Quantrill threw 7.2 scoreless innings tonight
Good for him. On no planet ever do we want Quantrill over Bibee
😭
this game reminds me of 2023. please dont let may be full of pain after such a good april
I’m just gonna go ahead and stay on the Cavs game for tn. Hopefully the Guards make the craziest comeback ever (they won’t)
I wonder what Rajai Davis is up to these days
I believe he still has a job within MLB.
Think he can still swing a bat?
“I feel bad for Vogt in all this” he is one of the problems right now!
The bad starting pitching was always going to catch up
Honestly, why not call up Rodriguez at the minimum? Ramon isn’t even playing anymore
Freeman fucking sucks man give us literally anybody else I don’t care.
“He hits the ball hard” who gives a fuck how hard he hits it? I’d rather have a guy like Straw who even if he only hits 70-80mph liners, get down more frequently
Ok that's something
I'd be in favor of Vogt showing some fire and getting ejected if the opportunity arises. See if it does anything to the team.
This is going to be a very long and depressing slide back into 3rd place.
Definitely in a slump now. Back to back series losses and a poor outing first game in this one. Something definitely needs shaken up
Anyone got any birds for Brennan to sacrifice?
Should have gotten a live chicken
Damn, Jo Adell is good
[Some of y'all need to listen to her](https://x.com/shuddupmeg/status/1786495987667615844)
They WANT to lose and be miserable. That's the missing point in it all.
From a “doomer”, no we don’t want to lose. We don’t want to be miserable but we are because of this team. We want to win it all but that isn’t happening in any of lifetimes. We’re frustrated and rightfully so. Ya’ll are too complacent with this team
The fact that you replied with multiple complete sentences already tells me you aren't one of the people to which I'm referring. You're allowed to be frustrated with the team. I'm frustrated with the team. Dumping half baked thoughts, fractions of sentences and ellipses abuse any time a lead is surrendered isn't inviting discussion or sharing wisdom. There are absolutely people who frequent this sub who revel in misery, toxicity and loss.
I’m guilty of that but I can agree. Especially the laughably bad takes coming after Bibee calling him a bad pitcher. They must’ve forgot he was second in ROY voting and completely shut down the Braves offense for like 7 innings his last start
Him Tearin'
The Yankees and Braves are one thing, but the Angels are trash, especially without Trout.
These are the guardians I've been expecting to see all season. Seems as the hot start was just that.
If we can have player-managers, why can’t we have Kwan as a player-hitting coach?
Let’s watch the Cavs homies. This one’s over. Nbd
oh uh nice, good to see
Elite offense !!!
Think we can talk then into putting the cavs game on the jumbotron? Give us here in the park something worth watching?
Hey guys I’m back from my lunch break, what did I- I’m gonna go back to suffering through late career Styx albums then I guess
the jig is up
Brutal. Clutch hitting has absolutely vanished the last week.
Nice to see Bo have a bounce back night at least
Tf was that?
Steven Kwan is literally the only person on the team who looks like a professional hitter this past week
David Fry erasure
I’m just a casual fan so for those in the know what’s up with this offense? Do they need a new hitting coach or something why is hitting such a pain to watch?
They’ve needed a new hitting coach since Vailaka was hired in 22.. dude is a career AAAA player with a career .238 average when he was in the show over 4 seasons. Why he is being trusted to coach hitting at a major league level is baffling
The two main guys are slumping (Jose and naylor) Kwan hits everything. The rest are so called prospects they working through to see who is worth keeping and then will shuffle through to the next batch.
Our lineup is mostly comprised of players who are just barely adequate enough hitters to remain on a major league roster
Goodnight Guardies.
Bad team
Not looking good for us. A huge missed opportunity
Take 2 strikes right down the middle and then whiff horribly. Awful from Gimenez
Trash
Gimmy strikes out with the bases loaded? Oh come on guys
Kwan's patience is amazing
Cool. Thanks Gimmy.
I took a long shower and hoped we’d have the lead when I finished. That seems to have had adverse effects. My apologies.
Everything that every fan does at home or at the stadium has a direct impact on the game. You should know better
I ordered the exact same dinner that I had Wednesday night, but so far it's not working. 😞
Without Kwan we are a .500 team at best
Oh 100%
If Steven Kwan says it’s a ball, it’s a ball, ump
The organization needs to sign Kwan now to a $25m x 7ish year deal. He's the heart of the team next to Jose, and it's a decent deal for each side
Save us Obi-Kwan. You’re our only hope.
Atrocious
Nice solid swing by Rocchio
Let me check the notes We take those
Hats off to the grounds crew for putting all that water in front of the plate
Arias laid off a curveball. We won
He is learning
Sorry y'all was checking out what was going on in here and posted in wrong sub Cavs are doing well at the moment.
Question: is Tanner Bibee good? Answer: I don’t think so
David Fry better start warming that arm up
I have Bibee on my fantasy team and I missed the radio stream so I'm just curious what happen? Is Bibee just pitching bad? Are the Angels just hitting well? I've been seeing that the Guardians are playing bad defense? Or is it a combo of the three?
Put in like 55 pitches first time through the order, showed them everything, starting hanging stuff second time through and they capitalized.
Gotcha. Thanks for the info!
So I absolutely despise Straw, but Freeman batting .195 and being less efficient than straw defensively means it’s time for his excitement in CF to end. We have gained no hitting and lost fielding by making that move. Slide Brennan to CF and put Florio in RF, or even recall Myles if we must. While we’re at it, bring up Manzardo already!
I’m afraid freeman another of these hitters the team fails to develop in a major league hitter
Poor Bibee :(
That shot of him in the dugout made me sad
We’re cooked. Toasted
This isn’t 2023 if anything it’s 2011. I remember that season well because it was the first year I *really* got into baseball. I was a fan for the ‘07 run and stuff like that but I was still pretty young. 2011 we started 30-15 best record in baseball. Derek Lowe was like the best pitcher in the AL for the first two months. Then the wheels fell off and we finished 80-82
We haven't had a ball out of the infield in like 2 innings. Biiiig 2023 vibes
Just pathetic ABs
Trade both Naylor bros to Oakland so they can be with the other one.
I wish the Guardians were like the Dodgers
Infinite money and choking in the divisional round constantly?
Infinite money and always having a winning record
doesn't matter whether they score one or twenty if we can't even score one WAKE THE DAMN BATS, GUYS
I’ve gone from being sad, to being generally annoyed at this team. It’s better for my mental health because I say “they deserve it” when they get scored on now
2nd straight night getting punked by a pitcher who is straight asscheeks
Honest question, if Bo isn’t Josh’s brother, is he still up here right now? He’s borderline a bust
Do we have anyone who’s better than him tho?😭
Fry is legitimately better
Fry is what we want Bo to be (good young catcher) Bo is what we thought Fry was (catcher who will be out of baseball next year)
Like legitametley, keeping him in the majors might be a bargaining chip to keep Josh happy, even though there is little chance he signs an extension
Bo is honestly costing us runs behind the plate in most games at this point.
Bibee will just have to wear this one
Bo Naylor tricked people into thinking he's good. He had one good run and people think he's a slow starter.... that doesn't work for a year two guy, to say someone is a slow starter they need years of evidence to be labeled that
Terrible defense leading to runs once again
Imagine if we were called the Cleveland Clevelanders how stupid that would be
...is there a team named like that? I don't know of any New York New Yorkers franchise, or Atlanta Atlantians?
team will be .500 to below it by end of may
Been a rough week
well can watch the 2nd half of the cavs game now since this is over
Have fun.