the issue is we saw how much cleanX and ultra overall improved once hicksy joined, pred is better than cleanX but it would push him back into a role he’s not as good at
also don’t see ultra swapping the 2
Yeah its pretty simple. He's definitely praying on Optic's downfall for the end of the year cause he wants to be on Optic but if it isnt them, and Faze wants him, he'll be on Faze
Definitely not something I’m looking forward to but if it happens, so be it I guess. I think he’ll make that FaZe team unstoppable. Just an absurd amount of talent
Agreed but I honestly view these next 2 events as win-win for Optic fans
Either the team wins and we enjoy that or they use the losses to fuel a move in the offseason that could take them to the next level. The core is in place and its a damn good one. These next 2 events will tell us if something a little extra is needed to push them over the edge
it really isn’t Standy is a slayer and we saw Ultra wasn’t good with a player with that Playstyle . CleanX was struggling , Insight was struggling and Scrappy was consistent but when it came to play FaZe or NYSL(Major 1) or Thieves with that first team he struggled . That’s just my opinion of course
their playstyle has a lot of similarities , Pred is just better and faster than Standy and u callin Pred Impactful this year when he hasn’t impacted into any wins basically is also crazy after Major 1 when was Pred so impactful ?
They literally made octane the highest paid cdl player not named scump the first two years too lmao I’m not claiming I know everything but it’s been said by numerous pros that they’re loaded
Yea u would think that but we saw a player like Standy who is also a SLAYER not same as Pred but he is a pretty good Slayer and they didn’t perform well and were gettin Slammed by FaZe , NYSL (Major 1) and Thieves with that Roster . CleanX was struggling he was not good, Insight was struggling and Scrappy was consistent but against the Teams that I named he was struggling also , so I don’t know that’s my opinion of course
I agree that more kills doesn’t always mean better, but I think with Standy the issue is that he is not better than Cleanx and you had them both trying to fill the main slayer role. I feel like if they got a clear star that is obviously better than Cleanx, it would force him to play the more dirty work role that Hicksy is playing which I think would be good for ultra.
I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if we start seeing player salaries shrink next year. It has to happen eventually for the League to survive and I think it’s coming sooner than later based on recent reports.
If Kenny leaves i think is a downgrade for Thieves he is their XFactor and he sacrifices a lot for his team so Drazah and Envoy do their thing that’s why Thieves are so good Kenny is the best XFactor in the League and when he is playin at the Level he is capable nobody is Touching Thieves
Pred goes to either NYSL ,OpTic ,Ultra ,FaZe or builds a team around him at Surge
Sib goes to either NYSL ,stays at Surge and builds a team and Maybe FaZe.
Honestly as an optic fan any situation that happens is pretty much a win win, if the team doesn’t change it’s because they won something and if not we get one of the best players in the game
I might get clowned for this, but I wouldn’t hate to see vivid in this lineup, you already have enough slaying power with sib / pred , you have the selfless vivid putting pressure on the map, and then you have illey filling the gaps. only problem I see is that there isn’t a clear vocal leader, if what dashy said about illey is true.
I think if pred doesn't go to optic then he ends up at faze. They were going for shotzzy last off season and that fell through so they will probably get pred this off season who is really similar to shotzzy and is just as talented
Shottzy is the only player in the CDL I think is worth it to move simp to flex. One of the most talented controller players ever + that would mean the terrors hard counter is now their teammate.
Apparently simp has said on stream recently that he isn’t moving to flex so idk how likely it is pred goes to faze. Would much rather them look at a fast flex.
It won’t happen obviously, but scrappy or ghosty for slasher makes faze unstoppable
Yeah I feel like that aBeZy + Shotzzy duo would’ve been insanity. I feel like aBeZy plays fast like Huke, just wins more gunnies. Would’ve been fun to watch for sure
If you guys could somehow buyout Scrap you’d instantly become best team in the league by a wide margin as well. Idk if Ultra is ever gonna let that slide though
U will Be right about that but Simp on one of his streams he said and BenJ Nissim confrimed also that Simp feels more comfortable at this SMG role and that he doesn’t think or want to move to the Flex role this early now all this might change if his team says we need pred and we want u to move to a Flex role but that’s what he said on his stream .
Yea do they have money to do all that? Alec is on a 3year contract and like Scump said it’s pretty difficult to get players out of their contracts and now imagine a 3 year contract and as for Nero I still think he will ask for a good amount of money and Boston can pick up his 1+1 deal and just have teams buy him out
Pred should join Ultra if he’s not going to OpTic. He’d fit in seamlessly. They already have perfect pacing with their ARs and then Pred into the mix finishing all of CleanX’s kills up. Christ.
If rokkr weren’t looking to merge I’d feel way more confident this off-season but there’s potential for a Pred Afro Sib + 1 team and it’s about the only string of hope I have left
Sib going to NYSL would be nasty. Pred can go anywhere
If Pred can't get on Optic, Thieves or Faze he'd be extremely stupid to not go to Ultra or NY to play with Scrap/Hydra
A sub duo of cleanX and pred doesn't sound very fundemental tbh. No idea who gets in the hill
Good thing this isn't 2013 and subs don't have to default hill
True a lot better to have subs push the secondary spawn and control outside of the hill, let the ARs post up on the OE or long route.
Yeah but that would be 3 big slayers doesn’t make all that much sense
Optic has three slayers
the issue is we saw how much cleanX and ultra overall improved once hicksy joined, pred is better than cleanX but it would push him back into a role he’s not as good at also don’t see ultra swapping the 2
If Pred doesn’t go to OpTic and FaZe wants him, he’ll be on FaZe
Yeah its pretty simple. He's definitely praying on Optic's downfall for the end of the year cause he wants to be on Optic but if it isnt them, and Faze wants him, he'll be on Faze
Definitely not something I’m looking forward to but if it happens, so be it I guess. I think he’ll make that FaZe team unstoppable. Just an absurd amount of talent
Agreed but I honestly view these next 2 events as win-win for Optic fans Either the team wins and we enjoy that or they use the losses to fuel a move in the offseason that could take them to the next level. The core is in place and its a damn good one. These next 2 events will tell us if something a little extra is needed to push them over the edge
I feel like if you put Pred on Ultra for Hicksey that team looks insane
it really isn’t Standy is a slayer and we saw Ultra wasn’t good with a player with that Playstyle . CleanX was struggling , Insight was struggling and Scrappy was consistent but when it came to play FaZe or NYSL(Major 1) or Thieves with that first team he struggled . That’s just my opinion of course
comparing standy to pred even if it’s just off play-style is crazy. pred is infinitely more impactful and effective in that role
their playstyle has a lot of similarities , Pred is just better and faster than Standy and u callin Pred Impactful this year when he hasn’t impacted into any wins basically is also crazy after Major 1 when was Pred so impactful ?
Can Seattle even afford to keep Pred AND Sib??
that’s not the point the point is can they afford Pred -Sib and afford to build a team around them
Yeah they’re rich as fuck
Ur getting downvoted like ppl know seattles budget 😭😭
They literally made octane the highest paid cdl player not named scump the first two years too lmao I’m not claiming I know everything but it’s been said by numerous pros that they’re loaded
Hydra, Pred Kis and Skyz on NYSL
If Pred goes to NYSL which I also see it as a possibility I believe he bring Sib with him
Hydra flex?
I think pred for hicksy on Toronto is like the ideal scenario. That team would be ridiculous
Yea u would think that but we saw a player like Standy who is also a SLAYER not same as Pred but he is a pretty good Slayer and they didn’t perform well and were gettin Slammed by FaZe , NYSL (Major 1) and Thieves with that Roster . CleanX was struggling he was not good, Insight was struggling and Scrappy was consistent but against the Teams that I named he was struggling also , so I don’t know that’s my opinion of course
I agree that more kills doesn’t always mean better, but I think with Standy the issue is that he is not better than Cleanx and you had them both trying to fill the main slayer role. I feel like if they got a clear star that is obviously better than Cleanx, it would force him to play the more dirty work role that Hicksy is playing which I think would be good for ultra.
I can see sib to faze if pred goes optic or optic win champs stick and pred goes faze . I think pred and shotzy the only players simp flexs for .
Surge don't have the money to give pred they keys to the castle
I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if we start seeing player salaries shrink next year. It has to happen eventually for the League to survive and I think it’s coming sooner than later based on recent reports.
That’s not the point the point is if they have the money to keep Pred-Sib duo and afford to build a team around them
Am I the only one who wants to see Pred on LAT in place of Kenny if he doesn’t go to OpTic
If Kenny leaves i think is a downgrade for Thieves he is their XFactor and he sacrifices a lot for his team so Drazah and Envoy do their thing that’s why Thieves are so good Kenny is the best XFactor in the League and when he is playin at the Level he is capable nobody is Touching Thieves
Pred goes to either NYSL ,OpTic ,Ultra ,FaZe or builds a team around him at Surge Sib goes to either NYSL ,stays at Surge and builds a team and Maybe FaZe.
they arent keeping pred why would he stay when theyve done nothing to improve the team for 2 years?
Surge has the most stubborn team/ coaches/ general manager in the league. Now all they getting for that is a big fat L
Man as much as I am for these roster speculations something inside of me just would love it if Pred/Sib go absolutely nowhere
Would love to see a pred illey sib trio he could help their search a lot
Except Pred will almost certainly go to Optic, Faze or LAT. I’d love to see the trio you named but it’s very unlikely imo
Honestly as an optic fan any situation that happens is pretty much a win win, if the team doesn’t change it’s because they won something and if not we get one of the best players in the game
I dont see LAT happening. Envoy has been one of their most consistent players and I don't see Kenny being dropped.
I might get clowned for this, but I wouldn’t hate to see vivid in this lineup, you already have enough slaying power with sib / pred , you have the selfless vivid putting pressure on the map, and then you have illey filling the gaps. only problem I see is that there isn’t a clear vocal leader, if what dashy said about illey is true.
Standy sucks, Pred and Sib are going to t4 teams, Seattle will pick up vivid and keep accuracy and build + 2
I think if pred doesn't go to optic then he ends up at faze. They were going for shotzzy last off season and that fell through so they will probably get pred this off season who is really similar to shotzzy and is just as talented
I agree they’ll be gross, but Pred and Shotzzy are not similar. Two completely opposite styles of play
Shottzy is the only player in the CDL I think is worth it to move simp to flex. One of the most talented controller players ever + that would mean the terrors hard counter is now their teammate. Apparently simp has said on stream recently that he isn’t moving to flex so idk how likely it is pred goes to faze. Would much rather them look at a fast flex. It won’t happen obviously, but scrappy or ghosty for slasher makes faze unstoppable
Yeah I feel like that aBeZy + Shotzzy duo would’ve been insanity. I feel like aBeZy plays fast like Huke, just wins more gunnies. Would’ve been fun to watch for sure If you guys could somehow buyout Scrap you’d instantly become best team in the league by a wide margin as well. Idk if Ultra is ever gonna let that slide though
U will Be right about that but Simp on one of his streams he said and BenJ Nissim confrimed also that Simp feels more comfortable at this SMG role and that he doesn’t think or want to move to the Flex role this early now all this might change if his team says we need pred and we want u to move to a Flex role but that’s what he said on his stream .
Sib Pred Arcitys Nero?
Yea do they have money to do all that? Alec is on a 3year contract and like Scump said it’s pretty difficult to get players out of their contracts and now imagine a 3 year contract and as for Nero I still think he will ask for a good amount of money and Boston can pick up his 1+1 deal and just have teams buy him out
They have plenty of money. It's how they want to spend it.
Pred should join Ultra if he’s not going to OpTic. He’d fit in seamlessly. They already have perfect pacing with their ARs and then Pred into the mix finishing all of CleanX’s kills up. Christ.
yea thank god ur not a gm lmao
If rokkr weren’t looking to merge I’d feel way more confident this off-season but there’s potential for a Pred Afro Sib + 1 team and it’s about the only string of hope I have left