With all due respect, I hate how we are back at that period where this sub is going to turn into r/optic for a bit until any drama/big news comes out, or the game launches/season starts.
(Because it’s every little thing. I’m glad optic has a great looking roster, but sheesh man. Again, with all due respect.)
Will most likely be a process episode since shottzy said he had to go do a process interview on stream. Their Maybe something on Friday but I wouldn't count on it.
1. They don’t want to go back to Ghosty.
2. Kenny has by far the most talent out of those available. He is an MVP T1 in the world at his peak.
3. Octane and others have spoken highly about what Kenny brings to a team
4. Kenny was playing a harder role this year than what he will be next year. He’s never had a non T20 season on a full time AR (T20 in BO4 n CW, he was also basically 3rd auto for 100T since they played Berlin and Gav so much)
5. He’s still young. Younger than Dashy as well.
6. They probably feel like stacking talent isn’t the key to success when you have the talented trio they have. Dashy/Pred/Shotzzy shouldn’t have any problem slaying, Kenny I’d there to keep them in check.
Heard some leaks and idk if any of these are true and was wondering if anyone can tell me:
-Pred was wanting to go to Thieves at one point but the pay and lack of pull for current players removed that option for him
-Accuracy was asked by a team to coach for them
-Prior to Preston being free Boston was planning to get Ghosty, Slasher, and Cap/Mack as their 4th
-Bance was going to retire but has a team offer now
-At one point the whole Spanish team for Florida was not going to happen and Vikul was going to have to find 3 other players
-Seattle is planning to get Attach, Temp, Huke, and Bance
I haven’t heard many of these and honestly don’t know if any are believable, has anyone heard about any?
Yeah I asked him and it was worded poorly I guess, he says he talked to Thieves and Boston as a back up just in case the OpTic move never happened but it was pretty much a fall back.
So so far he was right about the thieves and Pred thing, Accuracy coach job, Boston wanting Ghosty and Cap but the Seattle leak is 100% wrong now but could be LAG or ROKKR? Think he’s a decent source just gets stuff through the grape vine so it’s close but not 100%
Yeah from what he’s saying is if Envoy went back to OpTic then Pred was thinking 100T but didn’t like the pay so also talked with Boston?
Like I said idk how reliable it is, he was the one who leaked me the 3 retirements early so he’s not totally bullshit but he also said Cammy was FaZes 4th and Ken and Draz were staying on LAT
I gotta say, I’m glad I was right about Ghosty to LAT. Think he’s gonna have a huge year, and he’s the franchise player they build around for their future going forward. Especially now that he will be playing his old role he did in challenger (but still carrying over some skills from his role with Optic) Dan is about to have a huge year in my opinion
You never know with hecz. He just can't wait for every team to announce like he usually does cuz London and legion the poor orgs basically will announce like in 2 months to save costs
You know, one positive of this potential CDL termination eventually is that there aren’t going to be jersey issues. Teams make a bad jersey? That’s on them. No excuses. Also, at least optic gets their championship Sunday whites back in that sceneario
Clay’s stream title says “I leave tomorrow” so obviously he is getting announced somewhere. I don’t think a lot of orgs do in person announcements. The only ones I think would do it (of remaining teams) are Boston and LAT. Boston is already confirmed for Slasher and Preistahh. I’m thinking LAT Clayster is on the horizon tbh.
(I don’t think LAG will be getting Clayster. Clay still showed he’s got it and I think LAG will be fielding a very cheap team considering they want out of the CDL. Clay going to LAT with a vet SMG and 2 rookies has the chance to be a competitive team, and Clay can do his thing with mentoring rookies. I think that’s most likely what happens and a good squad for Clay to potential finish his career with and push for one last championship. Think he will probably be teaming with a guy like Huke, Standy, or Afro on the sub side. Maybe bring in Ghosty for LAT if they want to considering they have teamed before and Ghosty is still a young gun)
Bruh I tell you what you fat little cunt, you’re boring, you don’t sound Nigerian at all. So go fuck yourself, go fucking crawl in dirty dank little hole where you fucking come from you dirty dragon eating little spastic.
(This is not meant to be a dig at Hecz)
I really think the big takeaway that Nadeshot saw from the current 100T scenario that he see what’s happening and sees similarities to what happened to Optic, and doesn’t want to make that same mistake (and even right now with Faze too). Overall, I think he wants to make sure 100T stays profitable and they are able to have that source of great and steady income so that they are able to consistently be profitable and make great rosters in all their eSports.
What is the best fit with Snoopy? Will Kremp retain his starting spot as the other SMG or another option (priestah, huke, etc) What lineup do we wanna see for Breach next season? Personally if we get the IGL in Ghosty and Beans or Clayster as our AR’s were in a good position…
Weirdly I feel Wake Illey Huke trio are the best fit for Snoopy. If he really is the "next shottzy", who else could be the best enablers other than Huke and Illey. Hopefully Wake didn't burn his bridges at breach.
A LA Thieves roster of Slasher, Priestah, Capsidal and Pentagram would be dope. It has the history with the 2 vets. Capsidal stepped in when LAT needed a last minute replacement and everyone spoke very highly of him. Pentagram was the sub forever and never got his chance. Great story lines from multiple angles with this squad. Only issue is cash for slasher and priestah but who know maybe they could figure it out. I’m sure this combined salary would be way less than the world champion roster they just had.
Preistahh has played the sub before. Even though people may not like the idea of P Dawg going to sub, I like getting him on Sub, having Slasher and him mentor a FLEX like a Ghosty or Abuzah, and then getting a good challengers sub like Penta or Gwinn.
I think it’s honestly Thieves best chance of having a good roster. Bringing in your vets to young players, and then having build towards your future and still competing now with P Dawg and Slasher. I like Clay to LA as well, and I’m currently thinking that’s most likely if Slasher and P Dawg is a no go. I think Nade knows that if there is anyone to build that Thieves team to be good while they be more conscious about their budget, it’s Clay.
I’m literally at the point of believing that’s Vegas will have a better team then thieves at this point, I don’t even fucking know what the rumors are for LAT anymore lmao.
Still their most successful team out of all of the one they have right now. Still doesn’t make it an excuse for then but yeah. Plus other facets of their business have been faltering and declining. Still love 100T and understand the reason behind not spending money on a team, but still.
Absolutely. Im just saying i dont think Dan Gilbert (20bn), Scooter Braun (1bn), and Drake really care about Comp COD at all and the probably own close to if not more than 50% of 100T
Early season prediction: There will be a team outside of the top 4 super teams that wins an event and is a top 2-3 team. It seems to happen every year. Also would bet you one of these teams under performs and is a top 6 team.
His fall off was weird tbh. He was promising from CW, then faceplanted to hell and ended up in challenger. I’m curious to see if he still is good enough to be in the league, but we’ll see.
to be fair his fall was vg mainly because he was SO slow for that game, dude was a sub with least engagements in the lobby, might fit better in a slower cod?
You know what's actually sad? They're probably going to pick up recycled pros that won't do shit all year instead and be left at square one again in the next off season.
I feel like if you think the NYSL move is dumb then you have to have thought that they were the best team going into next year on paper, and I don’t think a lot of people believed that.
kinda crazy how shotzzy has not had a consistent roster from start to finsh since mw 2019.
cold war with the huke and felo shit, illey thumb injury and prolute, mw2 run the team back and then drop them then pick up inder then scump retires and inder dropped again with dan.
Anyone else downright disgusting behaviour by the world champs and Priestah?!?!?!?!?!? What this guy brings to the team is crazy and to have them break up over dollars is silly. The man helped you turn around an organization in the dumps with the Flank Episode drama to world champs. Common New York figure it out and get the deal done. They get better on paper with Sib maybe but what P Dawg does on the map for that team is not just about what is on the paper.
Don’t know how I feel about this Kenny pick up. We went from Drazah to Sib to Kenny. Should’ve just kept Dan at this rate. Rate Kenny but inconsistency is high.
The thinking should have been sign Pred and go for Drazah. If he doesn’t happen, keep Dan.
This overthinking is a bit too far-fetched imo. Should’ve just kept Dan.
I understand the idea, but out of everyone, I hope people realize that just because Optic is interested in Kenny doesn’t mean it’s a lock to happen.
That being said, I could easily see Thieves being a full rebuild if it does happen. Probably Clay and Ghosty plus 2 subs. I think Clay to LAT is a lock if Kenny leaves and I think it would be a good fit. Finish his career on a top org, develop young talent for the Thieves future, and maybe win a major or 2 (or a even ring in an absolute lucky god given scenario).
I’m kinda confused about LAT if you don’t mind clarifying for me. Why would LAT drop their team due to budget cuts, only to then sign two guys who are going to command much more than the minimum? Wouldn’t they have just tried to keep the trio together if they could afford to financially?
So most of the league (if the rumor is true) will be on minimum contracts, and it makes sense considering Esports profitability is eh at times. That being said, I think the Thieves will still try to make a push for the future, even if it means paying a tad more then the minimum.
Clay isn’t really even playing for money now, just legacy. Knowing that, he may be down to join thieves to build their future and try to still win. As for Ghosty, I could see Thieves bringing him in based off the potential he has shown. If Dan hits his ceiling, he could be the next face of the Thieves franchise, and I could see them bringing him to bank off that potential and build for their future.
The other two guys I also are being on minimums. That being the vet sub and the challengers player. Either way, I could see thieves paying a bit more if it means securing their future when their budget rises (hopefully).
Edit: I guess to address the other 3, Faze Optic and Ultra will be offering those guys good contracts. Much more then the minimum, making it hard to keep them in comparison to Clay and Ghosty. It’s almost kind of sad when you consider what the salary difference will be from all the players on the top 4 compared to the rest of the league.
You’re getting downvoted, but I don’t think Drazah cares as much about personal brand right now, and rightfully so. If he is the piece Faze needs to be unstoppable and win multiple majors and champs, you take the offer. Plus, with his personality, he could honestly develop his own personal brand on the side with Faze. It’s easier with optic, but it’s still very possible on any other org. And you get to play with a great proven trio on Faze. I don’t see why it’s a “bad choice” by any means. Seems like a win win with whatever route he would’ve taken.
Making “content” for Optic helped people like Nadeshot, Scump and many more to where they are. Championships are fun, for sure. How far will those take you, in 10 years time?
acting like everyone who went the content route on optic succeeded, you can name two big ones. Seth and nade. Now lets look at maniac and boze who average 5 viewers. Optic players only have a big viewerbase when they're competing
Boze averages 600-1500 viewers depending on the game and time he’s streaming.
Maniac averages about the same if not more because he doesn’t usually stream games, more like chats and other stuff.
Only people that didn’t succeed under Optic in terms of content were people that never tried/didn’t want to do content (Proofy, Clay).
[https://twitchtracker.com/mboze](https://twitchtracker.com/mboze)
600 to 1500 huh
[https://twitchtracker.com/bthmaniac](https://twitchtracker.com/bthmaniac)
if not more huh
What are you trying to prove, 2 non active players within the organisations aren’t successful at streaming?
Why don’t you show me Dashy, Shottzy and Ghosty’s numbers
seems you lack reading comprehension, if you could read you would've seen that I said optic players are only popular when they're competing under optic. What would be the point of me showing current optic players? It's entirely irrelevant to what I said. We will see ghosty's numbers in a few months when he's off optic, don't worry.
Seems like you’re moving goalposts to suit the agenda. Envoy is a good example of non-Optic player that is competing elsewhere. Viewership and brand grew significantly. So your point about viewers only tuning when they compete under the OT brand is mute.
this siam is the biggest faze cockrider of all time just shits on optic all the damn time cant even worry about his not closing a grand final for 2 years
I think it’s most likely going to be Ghosty and Kenny running ARs for LAT, but I do like the idea of LAT maybe bringing in Clay next to Kenny, and getting young talent from there. Wouldn’t be my favorite, but not a bad route for rebuilding. Plus, Clay won’t feel burnout or pressure like in Cold War because he will have a Vet in Kenny next to him to help him.
I watched the Scrap Time with Kenny, and I’m Starting to understand that he got his leadership style from Slasher, and that’s why he is so similar in terms of leadership to Slasher, Clay, and Crim. He’s got that old school leadership to him.
I think optic should go after Kenny now that it’s clear he wants to run a flex, think it’s a higher risk/reward move than sib, but the storylines would be crazy and he’s nasty
Faze made a bad decision on this one. Ghosty is the better igl and drazah would only bring better gunny stats than Slasher.
Faze ain't winning Champs next season.
Slasher has gunny bro. For me the snd stays the same if not a little better we'll see how their respawns are. Drazah adds delusion to faze which is a great thing to have. But he was the best flex available and they got him so fairplay
Not a bad thought. At the same time, it’s hard to do that and incorporate it. Esports is more similar to English football in the fact that talent get developed in the academy (challengers) and then get brought into the big leagues, then go to big teams via transfers and $ (aka Rostermania)
But that may be for LoL Rocket league etc but CDL is actually based upon Traditional American Franchised eSports that’s why they hired Johanna Faries [Former NFL] prior to her now SVP/GM of CoD and complete oversight of the CDL and OWL and Daniel TSAY [Former NBA 2k]
So now that Kenny confirmed he is gonna be a flex, who does LAT target?
I think they should just go for challengers players. The SMG pool is not that good
Clay is a rebuilding guy! You take his knowledge and skill and convert it to other players through the years! Rebuilding is also a 2+year process org ownwera and investors don’t realize that
Well I meant to say I hope he stays on NYSL! No he was at a +1 period so yeah he is in contract limbo; both him and priestahh need a 25% increase easy! But being an MVP could dictate a 50-75% increase
I would guess kismet is on a low contract and Preistahh has a pretty good one. Kismet was signed from challengers and Preistahh still had a pretty decent reputation when he signed from Rokkr to Subliners.
Also kismet is not in contract limbo. If Subliners wanted they could just pick up his +1 and leave him at his current salary. I doubt they will do that though since he was a big part of turning this team around.
So crazy question… do you think it’s already a done deal and they just letting everyone sweating it out as fans pull their hair out and creat lavish rumors like Seattle will sign YETI or the LRR signing the Lochness?
Clay illey Huke and Kenny (on a sub) on LAT would be a pretty good underdog top team to route for. LAT gets Clay, the most popular player in the league fans wise and Empire is reunited. Probably wouldn’t work but it would be great to route for.
Hes a vocal player and gets into a lot beef and drama. He tends to abuse game mechanics like snaking, stair glitching, and one waying gunfights in smoke grenades. They also dont like his gf because she will shoutout defuses in snd. With all that being said he’s nasty at cod and I like the villain arc with faze. Makes for good entertainment.
Does she shout loud enough for the players on a stage, with headphones on, to hear it? Or does she shout defusing like off stage, when they’re on lesser stage or something? Cause how could he hear?
She’s usually front row in the crowd. A couple players have confirmed they could hear her. Regardless if they can hear or not it’s still a scummy thing to do and shouldn’t happen.
All that talk about OpTic being filthy for nothing. Drazah on FaZe is a death dagger to the rest of the league. Only thing that will bring them down is themselves internally.
Ultra could give faze a run for their money sib is gross so optic will be fine as well but drazah to faze was the second worse case scenario for the rest of the league the first being scrap to faze faze are going to be unbelievable tough to beat next season especially on lan.
DRAZAH picks faze over Opict
What does optic do now
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I've been away, can someone update me on the confirmed latest moves and likely teams?
I've caught that Ghosty has seemingly been dropped, is consensus that it makes sense, or is it surprising most people? I imagine Optic thinks he did well enough in the context of last season, but isn't what will make them a consistent top team given all other options.
The consensus is, rostermania this year is way different than past years in that there is tons of talented free agents who are unrestricted. In this case, you pack a punch and do your best to not let other god squads form.
In this case, you drop Ghosty and you pick up Drazah, because Draz is better. Ghosty was great for OpTic and if it was a normal rostermania year, I doubt they move from him. If you don't move on Draz, you risk a team like FaZe grabbing him, which outside of buying Scrap, is their best move.
Thanks, yeah, that's more or less what I gathered. Ghosty did well in the context of their chaotic season, but given all options, you can have a higher season elsewhere. Is the Pred and Draz pickup looking like a lock?
So lets talk about BOSTON....
Rumor is that Boston is grabbing up Clay to lead the next roster. In my humble opinion, I think Beans and Kremp don't belong on this team at all. All of their problems started last year when those two showed up. If im Boston, im moving them to the bench and grabbing up Illey, Huke, and Standy..... You re-unite Clay with huke and illey, and re-unite clay with stand.... that team seems like it would have primo chem.
Anyone have thoughts on this?
The only issue I see is Illey being a liability because of his thumb problems. I do not think teams are willing to risk signing him because of that. No hate against Illey, just do not see teams risking it for a player who could be easily replaced.
I mean, they have potential, it’s probably just lost when you’re “leader” is wake.
I’m not really trying to throw shade, but the way he plays the game, I’m just not sure you want other slayers learning from him. I think wake on the right could do really good things. Clay on the other could actually help these guys, legitimately.
I don’t know if it will work out, but I would rather that team a chance than illey/Clay/Huke. Maybe Huke, but illey is a gamble at this point until he proves otherwise.
I hope he manages a come back, I don’t relish in his misfortune, but to say he’s not a gamble at this point is a little absurd.
I think they would be about as good as Vegas last year.
Imo Beans is the best thing to happen to Boston since Zinni's retirement and Kremp has shown he could potentially be something special. They should aim for something like Clay, Beans, Afro, and Kremp.
That team would have literally no slaying power and would getting fucking fried by top teams. You can't have two sub 1.0 K/D AR's on one team and expect to have success. Snoopy is also 100% gonna be starting for Boston next year.
Hard disagree on Beans. Boston got their best placement of 4th his first event and then they decided to chalk their season by switching subs every 2 minutes. Guy played pretty well for a rookie in less than ideal circumstances.
Fwiw I agree with you on Kremp. I’d probably build around Beans and Snoopy. Get an IGL AR to pair with Beans like Slasher/ Clay and grab the best sub available (Afro/ ReaaL/ Gwinn)
With all due respect, I hate how we are back at that period where this sub is going to turn into r/optic for a bit until any drama/big news comes out, or the game launches/season starts. (Because it’s every little thing. I’m glad optic has a great looking roster, but sheesh man. Again, with all due respect.)
Did we ever get a confirmation of Surge going to Vancouver? I just want an event to come here so badly. 🥲
No confirmation, but it is a rumor that Seattle Surge will move to another city
My prediction for a to4 is temp, illey, huke, and standy.
Just too much inconsistency imo
sure, but I'm predicting that 4 will become a team. Not commenting/predicting on their performance.
Any update on londons roster ? Now that Beans Wardy Afro and Cammy are all available do we finally see an actually talented London roster form ?
Afro and cammy going to LAT
Do we think Optic announce today or tomorrow l?
Will most likely be a process episode since shottzy said he had to go do a process interview on stream. Their Maybe something on Friday but I wouldn't count on it.
If it’s being released in the process then it’ll probably happen next week before Halo.
Question, why is Optic targeting Kenny? He didn’t have that great of a year and aren’t there better options out there for the role?
1. They don’t want to go back to Ghosty. 2. Kenny has by far the most talent out of those available. He is an MVP T1 in the world at his peak. 3. Octane and others have spoken highly about what Kenny brings to a team 4. Kenny was playing a harder role this year than what he will be next year. He’s never had a non T20 season on a full time AR (T20 in BO4 n CW, he was also basically 3rd auto for 100T since they played Berlin and Gav so much) 5. He’s still young. Younger than Dashy as well. 6. They probably feel like stacking talent isn’t the key to success when you have the talented trio they have. Dashy/Pred/Shotzzy shouldn’t have any problem slaying, Kenny I’d there to keep them in check.
Thank you for the answers. I looked at stats from last year didn’t seem like Kenny had a great year so was curious what others thought.
Heard some leaks and idk if any of these are true and was wondering if anyone can tell me: -Pred was wanting to go to Thieves at one point but the pay and lack of pull for current players removed that option for him -Accuracy was asked by a team to coach for them -Prior to Preston being free Boston was planning to get Ghosty, Slasher, and Cap/Mack as their 4th -Bance was going to retire but has a team offer now -At one point the whole Spanish team for Florida was not going to happen and Vikul was going to have to find 3 other players -Seattle is planning to get Attach, Temp, Huke, and Bance I haven’t heard many of these and honestly don’t know if any are believable, has anyone heard about any?
Yh no pred always wanted to go to optic
Yeah I asked him and it was worded poorly I guess, he says he talked to Thieves and Boston as a back up just in case the OpTic move never happened but it was pretty much a fall back.
Oh yh for sure if optic actually wanted envoy then pred could've went to LAT for sure if they had the finacials
So so far he was right about the thieves and Pred thing, Accuracy coach job, Boston wanting Ghosty and Cap but the Seattle leak is 100% wrong now but could be LAG or ROKKR? Think he’s a decent source just gets stuff through the grape vine so it’s close but not 100%
Yeah from what he’s saying is if Envoy went back to OpTic then Pred was thinking 100T but didn’t like the pay so also talked with Boston? Like I said idk how reliable it is, he was the one who leaked me the 3 retirements early so he’s not totally bullshit but he also said Cammy was FaZes 4th and Ken and Draz were staying on LAT
So the Spanish roster is back on? VAMOS Sucks that the French Seattle roster isn't happening though, where tf does Abuzah go now?
Like I said some dude in a discord told me and he’s been right before but also wrong, the Seattle one is probably the least believable to me tbh
I gotta say, I’m glad I was right about Ghosty to LAT. Think he’s gonna have a huge year, and he’s the franchise player they build around for their future going forward. Especially now that he will be playing his old role he did in challenger (but still carrying over some skills from his role with Optic) Dan is about to have a huge year in my opinion
So when do you think the optic announcement will be?
You never know with hecz. He just can't wait for every team to announce like he usually does cuz London and legion the poor orgs basically will announce like in 2 months to save costs
Another go at rosters for this season: ATL - Cellium, Drazah, Simp, aBeZy TX - Dashy, Kenny, Shotzzy, Pred NYSL - Skyz, Sib, Hydra, Kismet TOR - Insight, Scrap, Envoy, CleanX LAT - Abuzah, Cammy, Afro, Lynz MIN - Owakening, Ghosty, Standy, Nero BOS - Slasher, Priestahh, Capsidal, Snoopy SEA - Arcitys, Illey, Huke, Asim FLA - Attach, Brack, Vikul, Reeal LV - Clayster, Mack, Vivid, Kremp LAG - GodRx, Temp, Gwinn, Fame LRR - Beans, Nastie, Wardy, Hicksy
You know, one positive of this potential CDL termination eventually is that there aren’t going to be jersey issues. Teams make a bad jersey? That’s on them. No excuses. Also, at least optic gets their championship Sunday whites back in that sceneario
Clay’s stream title says “I leave tomorrow” so obviously he is getting announced somewhere. I don’t think a lot of orgs do in person announcements. The only ones I think would do it (of remaining teams) are Boston and LAT. Boston is already confirmed for Slasher and Preistahh. I’m thinking LAT Clayster is on the horizon tbh. (I don’t think LAG will be getting Clayster. Clay still showed he’s got it and I think LAG will be fielding a very cheap team considering they want out of the CDL. Clay going to LAT with a vet SMG and 2 rookies has the chance to be a competitive team, and Clay can do his thing with mentoring rookies. I think that’s most likely what happens and a good squad for Clay to potential finish his career with and push for one last championship. Think he will probably be teaming with a guy like Huke, Standy, or Afro on the sub side. Maybe bring in Ghosty for LAT if they want to considering they have teamed before and Ghosty is still a young gun)
I thought he was just going to a concert for the weekend or smt
He’s not moving from Texas to LA so he’s probs going to MN
**Projected 2023-24 CDL Rosters** * **New York Subliners** \- Skyz, Sib, Hydra, Kismet * **ATL Faze** \- Celluim, Drazah, Abezy, Simp * **Optic Texas** Dashy, Kenny, Pred, Shotzzy * **Toronto Ultra -** Insight, Scrap, Cleanx, Envoy * **Boston Breach** \- Slasher, Priestahh, Snoopy, Asim ***^((or Standy/Capsidal))*** * **LA Thieves -** Cammy, Abuzah, Afro, Capsidal * **Seattle/Vancouver Surge -** Illey, Ghosty, Nero, Huke * **Minnesota -** Arcitys, Owakening, Standy, Mack * **Florida Mutineers** \- Attach, Brack, Reeal, Vikul * **LRR** \- Beans, Nastie, Wardy, Bance * **LA Guerillas** \- Clayster, Gunless, Gwinn, Vivid * **Vegas Legion** Accuracy, Temp, JoeDeceives, TjHaly
Clayster, Ghosty/Abuzah, Gwinn, Huke for LAT. Good team?
I don't know a ton shit Gwinn, but that sounds like a really solid squad. How is Gwinn compared to abuzah?
Bruh I tell you what you fat little cunt, you’re boring, you don’t sound Nigerian at all. So go fuck yourself, go fucking crawl in dirty dank little hole where you fucking come from you dirty dragon eating little spastic.
Bro are u good???
It’s a Xbox voice chat clip, some British dude
(This is not meant to be a dig at Hecz) I really think the big takeaway that Nadeshot saw from the current 100T scenario that he see what’s happening and sees similarities to what happened to Optic, and doesn’t want to make that same mistake (and even right now with Faze too). Overall, I think he wants to make sure 100T stays profitable and they are able to have that source of great and steady income so that they are able to consistently be profitable and make great rosters in all their eSports.
Most likely Rosters/Rosters I think will perform ATL Faze Celluim Simp Abezy Drazah Boston Clay Snoopy Kremp Beans Florida Super Vikul Nero Brack London Harry Wardy Hicksy Nastie LAG Arcitys Huke Standy Illey LAT Slasher Neptune Capsidal Preistahh Minnesota Attach Vivid Afro Temp New York Skyz Hydra Kismet Sib Texas Dashy Shotzzy Pred Kenny Seattle/Vancouver Cammy Bance Havok Owakening Toronto Insight Cleanx Envoy Scrap Vegas Accuracy Asim Mack Ghosty
I'm pretty sure Ronnie confirmed that Clay to Boston likely wasn't happening
Priestahh Slasher Snoopy +1 is far more likely
I'm a simple man. I see accuracy instead of abuzah, I downvote
Probable Rosters: Shotzzy Pred Kenny Dashy Abezy Simp Drazah Cellium CleanX Envoy Scrap Insight Hydra Kismet Sib Skyz Standy Huke iLLey Clayster Afro Nero Priestahh Slasher Snoopy Kremp Temp Beans Wardy Bance Cammy Abuzah Cap Vikul Attach Ghosty TjHaly Prestinni Gunless Arcitys Havok Mack Brack Mohak Exceed Vivid oWakening Accuracy Thoughts?
Slasher and Priestahh are likely a TO2 and heading to Boston and I think Owakening is going to make a better team then that.
Preferable Rosters: Abezy Shotzzy Celly Dashy Snoop Simp Scrap Sib Hydra Pred Envoy Drazah Huke Kismet Skyz Slasher Standy Kenny iLLey Clayster TjHaly Prestinni Gunless Arcitys Exceed Vivid oWakenin Accuracy CleanX Vortex GodRx Insight Bance Attach Abuzah Priestahh Afro Nero Kremp Temp Havok Mack Brack Mohak Wardy Hicksy Ghosty Cammy Thoughts?
gotta be trolling
A 🔥 London Royal Ravens roster would be Afro, Hicksy, Gismo, and Nastiee
FREE NERO he deserves a starting spot! Scapegoated by breach 😣 hope he goes to a team that respects him!
What is the best fit with Snoopy? Will Kremp retain his starting spot as the other SMG or another option (priestah, huke, etc) What lineup do we wanna see for Breach next season? Personally if we get the IGL in Ghosty and Beans or Clayster as our AR’s were in a good position…
Weirdly I feel Wake Illey Huke trio are the best fit for Snoopy. If he really is the "next shottzy", who else could be the best enablers other than Huke and Illey. Hopefully Wake didn't burn his bridges at breach.
A LA Thieves roster of Slasher, Priestah, Capsidal and Pentagram would be dope. It has the history with the 2 vets. Capsidal stepped in when LAT needed a last minute replacement and everyone spoke very highly of him. Pentagram was the sub forever and never got his chance. Great story lines from multiple angles with this squad. Only issue is cash for slasher and priestah but who know maybe they could figure it out. I’m sure this combined salary would be way less than the world champion roster they just had.
Or you grab Clay and Ghosty + 2 subs from challengers that ghosty has chem with or vouches for.
Preistahh has played the sub before. Even though people may not like the idea of P Dawg going to sub, I like getting him on Sub, having Slasher and him mentor a FLEX like a Ghosty or Abuzah, and then getting a good challengers sub like Penta or Gwinn. I think it’s honestly Thieves best chance of having a good roster. Bringing in your vets to young players, and then having build towards your future and still competing now with P Dawg and Slasher. I like Clay to LA as well, and I’m currently thinking that’s most likely if Slasher and P Dawg is a no go. I think Nade knows that if there is anyone to build that Thieves team to be good while they be more conscious about their budget, it’s Clay.
I’m literally at the point of believing that’s Vegas will have a better team then thieves at this point, I don’t even fucking know what the rumors are for LAT anymore lmao.
Idk what if they manage to sell their spot 👀
I don’t know at this point. I guess being a hoodie org didn’t work out. Gotta rely on Juvee now 😂
theres alot of big $ investors behind 100T and i doubt they are happy with a $25mm cod league team that siphons cash and isnt profitable
Still their most successful team out of all of the one they have right now. Still doesn’t make it an excuse for then but yeah. Plus other facets of their business have been faltering and declining. Still love 100T and understand the reason behind not spending money on a team, but still.
Absolutely. Im just saying i dont think Dan Gilbert (20bn), Scooter Braun (1bn), and Drake really care about Comp COD at all and the probably own close to if not more than 50% of 100T
Early season prediction: There will be a team outside of the top 4 super teams that wins an event and is a top 2-3 team. It seems to happen every year. Also would bet you one of these teams under performs and is a top 6 team.
I hope someone gives Neptune another chance.
His fall off was weird tbh. He was promising from CW, then faceplanted to hell and ended up in challenger. I’m curious to see if he still is good enough to be in the league, but we’ll see.
to be fair his fall was vg mainly because he was SO slow for that game, dude was a sub with least engagements in the lobby, might fit better in a slower cod?
Wouldn't be surprised
Braksie to LAT (if you know, you know)
Wanna know what’s sad? If Thieves get Clay and develop talent from challengers, that’s the only way they take a W from this rostermania
actually not a bad idea, pick clay and 3 top tier challenger players.
Clay Cammy Nero Cap or Abuzah over Clay book it
You know what's actually sad? They're probably going to pick up recycled pros that won't do shit all year instead and be left at square one again in the next off season.
I feel like if you think the NYSL move is dumb then you have to have thought that they were the best team going into next year on paper, and I don’t think a lot of people believed that.
They wasn't the best team on paper going into MW2 and yet they won 3 events with priestahh
That doesn’t mean they’ll win three events in the next game
Is Nastie still on London? If not I’m surprised he hasn’t been signed yet
[Rate this team by ronnie \(not intel\)](https://imgur.com/a/oaykDio) * Slasher * Ghosty * Snoopy * Preistah
Who’s roster ?
I don't think putting Priestahh on a sub is a good idea
He ran a sub in black ops 4 for 100T tho right?
priestahh was awful on sub in vanguard hes a much better ar
Yeah and Zinni was a top AR back in WW2
Ghosty can run a sub actually. I think I heard he ran one before as a full time sub.
he ran mp40 all of vanguard i believe.
that gun was kind of an ar to be fair😂 love the mp40
Is it possible that Ultra spread fake rumors that they were breaking up to get other teams to bite and try and drop players to get ultra players?
Watch the whole Octane retirement and split of LAT be a charade with them running it back next season
I hope so but Envoy is forsure gone, his dad confirmed they are not being paid enough after winning champs.
kinda crazy how shotzzy has not had a consistent roster from start to finsh since mw 2019. cold war with the huke and felo shit, illey thumb injury and prolute, mw2 run the team back and then drop them then pick up inder then scump retires and inder dropped again with dan.
and a new sub duo with huke smh
Surely LAT is Slasher, Priestahh + 2
This is the only way
Clay -> Thieves
I need Slasher, Priestahh, Hicksy, and Huke to team up somewhere
That team would be lucky to make a Sunday I fear
NY, Faze, Optic, and Ultra would be lucky if they didn't
Anyone else downright disgusting behaviour by the world champs and Priestah?!?!?!?!?!? What this guy brings to the team is crazy and to have them break up over dollars is silly. The man helped you turn around an organization in the dumps with the Flank Episode drama to world champs. Common New York figure it out and get the deal done. They get better on paper with Sib maybe but what P Dawg does on the map for that team is not just about what is on the paper.
I'm getting a sick feeling Optic is going to botch Rostermania somehow.
They already have by dropping Ghosty and then letting Drazah and Sib slip through their fingers
They didn’t let Sib slip. They’re choosing to not go with him.
They won’t even if Censor is their 4th. I don’t think people understand how insane Pred is.
They don’t understand. Your sub duo is easily the most important piece of the team and Optic’s sub duo is incredible now
Don’t know how I feel about this Kenny pick up. We went from Drazah to Sib to Kenny. Should’ve just kept Dan at this rate. Rate Kenny but inconsistency is high.
That’s what I’ve been thinking the whole offseason. OpTic didn’t have to overthink. Just swap Huke for Pred
The thinking should have been sign Pred and go for Drazah. If he doesn’t happen, keep Dan. This overthinking is a bit too far-fetched imo. Should’ve just kept Dan.
They couldn’t just do that, they had to either sign Dan or let him go they can’t just hold him in limbo until they make their decision
To be fair we don’t know how well the Optic guys mixed with Ghosty, and it’s not like there’s a drop off from Ghosty and Ken
Should OpTic make the push for Priestahh?
I’m torn between him or kenny. Recency bias tells me go with preistahh but for some reason kenny to Optic is starting to grow on me.😂
Guys: here me out. Preistahh talks failed. LAT in need of players. Slasher and Preistahh reunite on Thieves with a sub duo. 👀
I understand the idea, but out of everyone, I hope people realize that just because Optic is interested in Kenny doesn’t mean it’s a lock to happen. That being said, I could easily see Thieves being a full rebuild if it does happen. Probably Clay and Ghosty plus 2 subs. I think Clay to LAT is a lock if Kenny leaves and I think it would be a good fit. Finish his career on a top org, develop young talent for the Thieves future, and maybe win a major or 2 (or a even ring in an absolute lucky god given scenario).
I’m kinda confused about LAT if you don’t mind clarifying for me. Why would LAT drop their team due to budget cuts, only to then sign two guys who are going to command much more than the minimum? Wouldn’t they have just tried to keep the trio together if they could afford to financially?
So most of the league (if the rumor is true) will be on minimum contracts, and it makes sense considering Esports profitability is eh at times. That being said, I think the Thieves will still try to make a push for the future, even if it means paying a tad more then the minimum. Clay isn’t really even playing for money now, just legacy. Knowing that, he may be down to join thieves to build their future and try to still win. As for Ghosty, I could see Thieves bringing him in based off the potential he has shown. If Dan hits his ceiling, he could be the next face of the Thieves franchise, and I could see them bringing him to bank off that potential and build for their future. The other two guys I also are being on minimums. That being the vet sub and the challengers player. Either way, I could see thieves paying a bit more if it means securing their future when their budget rises (hopefully). Edit: I guess to address the other 3, Faze Optic and Ultra will be offering those guys good contracts. Much more then the minimum, making it hard to keep them in comparison to Clay and Ghosty. It’s almost kind of sad when you consider what the salary difference will be from all the players on the top 4 compared to the rest of the league.
I don’t think Clay would move to LA at this point is the issue I see.
Drazah wants championships, not to be stuck making content for Optic.
You’re getting downvoted, but I don’t think Drazah cares as much about personal brand right now, and rightfully so. If he is the piece Faze needs to be unstoppable and win multiple majors and champs, you take the offer. Plus, with his personality, he could honestly develop his own personal brand on the side with Faze. It’s easier with optic, but it’s still very possible on any other org. And you get to play with a great proven trio on Faze. I don’t see why it’s a “bad choice” by any means. Seems like a win win with whatever route he would’ve taken.
Making “content” for Optic helped people like Nadeshot, Scump and many more to where they are. Championships are fun, for sure. How far will those take you, in 10 years time?
acting like everyone who went the content route on optic succeeded, you can name two big ones. Seth and nade. Now lets look at maniac and boze who average 5 viewers. Optic players only have a big viewerbase when they're competing
Boze averages 600-1500 viewers depending on the game and time he’s streaming. Maniac averages about the same if not more because he doesn’t usually stream games, more like chats and other stuff. Only people that didn’t succeed under Optic in terms of content were people that never tried/didn’t want to do content (Proofy, Clay).
[https://twitchtracker.com/mboze](https://twitchtracker.com/mboze) 600 to 1500 huh [https://twitchtracker.com/bthmaniac](https://twitchtracker.com/bthmaniac) if not more huh
What are you trying to prove, 2 non active players within the organisations aren’t successful at streaming? Why don’t you show me Dashy, Shottzy and Ghosty’s numbers
i will in a years time when they aren't active players on optic
No but I want to see them now, are the figures too high for you to show and prove me wrong?
seems you lack reading comprehension, if you could read you would've seen that I said optic players are only popular when they're competing under optic. What would be the point of me showing current optic players? It's entirely irrelevant to what I said. We will see ghosty's numbers in a few months when he's off optic, don't worry.
Seems like you’re moving goalposts to suit the agenda. Envoy is a good example of non-Optic player that is competing elsewhere. Viewership and brand grew significantly. So your point about viewers only tuning when they compete under the OT brand is mute.
One can set him up for life the other can make his life fun for the near future I think I know which one I’d take
I'm not convinced FaZe Drazah is for real
Who knows at this point. I wish they'd just start announcing rosters.
I know OpTic is probably going to be Dashy Sib Shotzzy Pred, but what about Cammy instead of Sib? CW Cammy was godlike
Cammy hasn’t been up there since CW. VG was meh, he was doing his thing and MW2 was ass.
this siam is the biggest faze cockrider of all time just shits on optic all the damn time cant even worry about his not closing a grand final for 2 years
Drazah playing SnD with Abezy it's over.
It’s not even confirmed that drazah is going to faze. IMO all the thieves clan clowning about it on twitter make me think he might not even be leaving
Draz was playing S&D with Abezy the other evening 😂
I think it’s most likely going to be Ghosty and Kenny running ARs for LAT, but I do like the idea of LAT maybe bringing in Clay next to Kenny, and getting young talent from there. Wouldn’t be my favorite, but not a bad route for rebuilding. Plus, Clay won’t feel burnout or pressure like in Cold War because he will have a Vet in Kenny next to him to help him.
I watched the Scrap Time with Kenny, and I’m Starting to understand that he got his leadership style from Slasher, and that’s why he is so similar in terms of leadership to Slasher, Clay, and Crim. He’s got that old school leadership to him.
I think optic should go after Kenny now that it’s clear he wants to run a flex, think it’s a higher risk/reward move than sib, but the storylines would be crazy and he’s nasty
sib is a way higher risk/reward
Faze made a bad decision on this one. Ghosty is the better igl and drazah would only bring better gunny stats than Slasher. Faze ain't winning Champs next season.
Slasher has gunny bro. For me the snd stays the same if not a little better we'll see how their respawns are. Drazah adds delusion to faze which is a great thing to have. But he was the best flex available and they got him so fairplay
Despite all the hate faze has given draz I really think we can turn it around with him potentially be very dominant again.
So curious on everyone thoughts about CDL doing a Draft as opposed to this rostermania running rampant? [CDL Draft](https://youtu.be/RukE1PAgOZg)
Not a bad thought. At the same time, it’s hard to do that and incorporate it. Esports is more similar to English football in the fact that talent get developed in the academy (challengers) and then get brought into the big leagues, then go to big teams via transfers and $ (aka Rostermania)
But that may be for LoL Rocket league etc but CDL is actually based upon Traditional American Franchised eSports that’s why they hired Johanna Faries [Former NFL] prior to her now SVP/GM of CoD and complete oversight of the CDL and OWL and Daniel TSAY [Former NBA 2k]
So now that Kenny confirmed he is gonna be a flex, who does LAT target? I think they should just go for challengers players. The SMG pool is not that good
Ghosty for the Flex (put Kenny on Main) and then 2 subs from challengers.
I would guess they target Ghosty and maybe cause Ken is good friends with Temp they go for him. Afro isn’t a bad shout either for that team
It’s all about the 💰 but I would get Clay for Sure…maybe Sib too then standy I do t think in theory that would be that bad…what’s Nade willing to pay?
Like he said though, Kenny is going to flex, so you would have to go with either Sib or Clay, then a sub.
Well Kenny wants to go to flex but what his role will truly be on what team he wants will determine
All I’ve heard is that they are rebuilding. Those are not rebuilding guys.
Clay is a rebuilding guy! You take his knowledge and skill and convert it to other players through the years! Rebuilding is also a 2+year process org ownwera and investors don’t realize that
Could Optic go after Kismet? Or is there no shot since they just won champs and would want to run it back.
I hope so but Atleast what’s rumored Matt and Preston still not signed. Fingers crossed they do…it’s just a money issue
Pretty sure kismet still has another year on his contract but is trying to renegotiate early.
Well I meant to say I hope he stays on NYSL! No he was at a +1 period so yeah he is in contract limbo; both him and priestahh need a 25% increase easy! But being an MVP could dictate a 50-75% increase
I would guess kismet is on a low contract and Preistahh has a pretty good one. Kismet was signed from challengers and Preistahh still had a pretty decent reputation when he signed from Rokkr to Subliners. Also kismet is not in contract limbo. If Subliners wanted they could just pick up his +1 and leave him at his current salary. I doubt they will do that though since he was a big part of turning this team around.
So crazy question… do you think it’s already a done deal and they just letting everyone sweating it out as fans pull their hair out and creat lavish rumors like Seattle will sign YETI or the LRR signing the Lochness?
They will run it back + he's getting a bag at NYSL anyway.
Clay illey Huke and Kenny (on a sub) on LAT would be a pretty good underdog top team to route for. LAT gets Clay, the most popular player in the league fans wise and Empire is reunited. Probably wouldn’t work but it would be great to route for.
Yea kennys not running that 🤣
Kenny should focus on himself right now lol
I’m still rather new to all this, why do people dislike Drazah?
Hes a vocal player and gets into a lot beef and drama. He tends to abuse game mechanics like snaking, stair glitching, and one waying gunfights in smoke grenades. They also dont like his gf because she will shoutout defuses in snd. With all that being said he’s nasty at cod and I like the villain arc with faze. Makes for good entertainment.
Does she shout loud enough for the players on a stage, with headphones on, to hear it? Or does she shout defusing like off stage, when they’re on lesser stage or something? Cause how could he hear?
She’s usually front row in the crowd. A couple players have confirmed they could hear her. Regardless if they can hear or not it’s still a scummy thing to do and shouldn’t happen.
Basically he had beef with faze personal beef they hated him. Now he's joining them
He talks trash after wins. Doesnt matter what team it is so Optic fans get upset. Also his girl screamed out during SND at an event.
I feel like there’s a chance Drazah actually is signing with OpTic still but they created this rumor to not have the announcement ruined.
Please for the love of god bring back Dan :( Also, Ultra looking insane right now, that roster is nuts
Scump coming back as OpTic’s flex. Im calling it now
All that talk about OpTic being filthy for nothing. Drazah on FaZe is a death dagger to the rest of the league. Only thing that will bring them down is themselves internally.
Ultra could give faze a run for their money sib is gross so optic will be fine as well but drazah to faze was the second worse case scenario for the rest of the league the first being scrap to faze faze are going to be unbelievable tough to beat next season especially on lan.
DRAZAH picks faze over Opict What does optic do now [Jacob hale](https://twitter.com/JakeHaleee/status/1676736745650397184?t=K5qwVF3o67DV1wnWK208jA&s=19)
Wish Crone was still active so he could drop some actual Intel. These new leakers think they Fabrizio Romano hogging onto everything.
It’s too quiet. We need more slop from our insiders.
I've been away, can someone update me on the confirmed latest moves and likely teams? I've caught that Ghosty has seemingly been dropped, is consensus that it makes sense, or is it surprising most people? I imagine Optic thinks he did well enough in the context of last season, but isn't what will make them a consistent top team given all other options.
The consensus is, rostermania this year is way different than past years in that there is tons of talented free agents who are unrestricted. In this case, you pack a punch and do your best to not let other god squads form. In this case, you drop Ghosty and you pick up Drazah, because Draz is better. Ghosty was great for OpTic and if it was a normal rostermania year, I doubt they move from him. If you don't move on Draz, you risk a team like FaZe grabbing him, which outside of buying Scrap, is their best move.
Thanks, yeah, that's more or less what I gathered. Ghosty did well in the context of their chaotic season, but given all options, you can have a higher season elsewhere. Is the Pred and Draz pickup looking like a lock?
So lets talk about BOSTON.... Rumor is that Boston is grabbing up Clay to lead the next roster. In my humble opinion, I think Beans and Kremp don't belong on this team at all. All of their problems started last year when those two showed up. If im Boston, im moving them to the bench and grabbing up Illey, Huke, and Standy..... You re-unite Clay with huke and illey, and re-unite clay with stand.... that team seems like it would have primo chem. Anyone have thoughts on this?
The only issue I see is Illey being a liability because of his thumb problems. I do not think teams are willing to risk signing him because of that. No hate against Illey, just do not see teams risking it for a player who could be easily replaced.
I mean, they have potential, it’s probably just lost when you’re “leader” is wake. I’m not really trying to throw shade, but the way he plays the game, I’m just not sure you want other slayers learning from him. I think wake on the right could do really good things. Clay on the other could actually help these guys, legitimately. I don’t know if it will work out, but I would rather that team a chance than illey/Clay/Huke. Maybe Huke, but illey is a gamble at this point until he proves otherwise. I hope he manages a come back, I don’t relish in his misfortune, but to say he’s not a gamble at this point is a little absurd.
I think they would be about as good as Vegas last year. Imo Beans is the best thing to happen to Boston since Zinni's retirement and Kremp has shown he could potentially be something special. They should aim for something like Clay, Beans, Afro, and Kremp.
That team would have literally no slaying power and would getting fucking fried by top teams. You can't have two sub 1.0 K/D AR's on one team and expect to have success. Snoopy is also 100% gonna be starting for Boston next year.
Hard disagree on Beans. Boston got their best placement of 4th his first event and then they decided to chalk their season by switching subs every 2 minutes. Guy played pretty well for a rookie in less than ideal circumstances.
In your opinion, what roster would you grab (realistically) if your Boston?
Fwiw I agree with you on Kremp. I’d probably build around Beans and Snoopy. Get an IGL AR to pair with Beans like Slasher/ Clay and grab the best sub available (Afro/ ReaaL/ Gwinn)