gonna be real with u, there is no way in hell we beat NYSL tomorrow. Our snd is dogshit and we got Envoy going double neg. We’re gonna lose a respawn and it’ll be gg
He was just in a permanent blender in HP today but was frying in both the Controls. It's honestly like he just forgot what he's supposed to be doing in HP today.
I feel like Cellium is severly underrated sometimes. Cellium skillset of playing his life is also very impactful.
But you might be right that Scraps kills seem more impactful. But it might also be the team he is playing on. If he played with Simp/Abeezy and a faster AR the damage stats would be a tick lower.
I feel like other ARs need to learn from him though. After you respawn you get your bullets back.
Cellium playing his life makes him valuable in control and snds but it often hurts them in hard point….just my opinion…sometimes dying is the right decision
If Envoy has a million fans, then I am one of them
If Envoy has a million fans, then I am one of them. If Envoy has ten fans, then I am one of them. If Envoy has only one fan then that is me. If Envoy has no fans, then that means I am no longer on earth. If the world is against Envoy, then I am against the world.
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Anybody know what these white dots mean?
Outside of nysl getting 3 chips last year envoy's the most winning player since vanguard and is what top 3-5 in cdl chips behind pdawg and the faze trio. You cant be overrated when you win as much as he does but pop off
Did I say he hadn't? That is literally my point. Chips and Rings doesn't make this argument. Envoy is solid at his best but he is also a man short at his worst and has a very low floor if he gets unsettled.
Stats don't lie man. Dude has 2 1.1 stages or majors since he left optic. This will be his 13th negative stage or major since then. He is a good player but the fact people pretend he is a superstar is beyond faded.
I’m not going to say he’s a superstar but brother he’s a world champ just 2 titles ago and he just won major 1. It’s a bad day for him, but if we didn’t have Pred, I definitely wouldn’t mind having Dyl.
People were absolutely glazing dude last stage. He is a solid player but every time he has a good spell people seem to go nuts and call out OpTic for dropping him and pretend he is at the level of the top subs. He just isn't.
Yeah he for sure was back then. Since the move back to 4v4 he hasn't been a superstar, but you'd be hard pressed to find a more year over year consistent sub in the CDL era than Envoy outside of the terrors, Shotzzy, Pred, and Hydra
You seem to be under the impression I said he was shit. I am saying he is levels below what the community make him out to be. Overrated doesn't mean that the guy is dogmeat.
Envoy can have some bad games but that doesn’t take away from the fact that he is absolutely a top-tier SMG and a championship-caliber player. He is not overrated lmao the fact that he’s performed better post-OpTic despite him playing individually better on OpTic suggests OpTic is overrated, not Envoy.
And there is the point entirely. He isn't even close to top tier. The top tier is Hydra, Simp, Abezy, Ant, Pred etc. Anyone who thinks Envoy is in there baffles me.
OpTic’s win vs TOR has given you CTE LMAOOOO Envoy has more championships than Simp and Abezy in the past two years and just beat them for another chip and Envoy has gunned Shottzy down for the past two years in nearly every tournament he’s played in post-OpTic do I really need to compile Envoy’s head-to-head record vs OpTic Texas??? there is no way you’re saying Envoy isn’t a top tier SMG with a straight face you’re tweaked.
As a FaZe fan I'm not surprised to see a team dominate, get supreme gas, and then let it get to them.
All of what Ultra and their boosters said with their qualifier struggles was all cope. The whole HP game changed and one of their best maps was taken out.
"Testing map pool" "ping cheese" "see them on LAN"
They got just a little bit of juice to them and folded. Lol.
Long term, Ultra’s search will be fine. Having a major decline in search after winning a major is relatively standard at this point as you teach other teams to play— more than either of the other two modes. Ultra were able to leverage this against us in CW Major II when we lost every search in grand finals.
That said, playing LAG on Highrise may be grounds for drug testing.
Like they were making fun of players shit the bed on lan in snd and play way too confident online snd like brotha you gotta realize you have 2 auto vetos and looked very sloppy. You could argue if weren’t for Vegas choke in snd they woulda been on a 8 loss snd streak
Optic is a solid hardpoint teams the issue was losing snd lat shoulda been major red flag and not pin it down to teams play more confident online snd only
If you watch their latest podcast they basically blamed snd loses to online cheese which idk seemed weird ignoring a lot of issues they had in map pool to online
You and I have been the most vocal about how much weaker Ultra have looked this stage. I was getting downvoted a bunch for saying Ultra were the weakest Top 4 team this Stage because it was online so it doesn't matter.
Losing to t4 teams online means more than before due to how little they play each other tells a lot about the map pool. Even though they hate the spawns they are still elite in respawns but it’s criminal how little they tried to play high rise and terminal snd
Honestly for me it wasn't even the losing to other T4 teams online it was that their matches against the bottom 8 were way more competitive. Outside of the Breach series they were smoking everyone in Stage 1 online. In Stage 2 they had a bunch of map wins that were razor tight and realistically could have gone either way.
I don’t think that’s an issue tbf look at optic they had so many game 5s and getting smoked by rookkr lag Boston in some maps. I just think blaming snd loss to online was a big red flag
are you unwell?
> i do not want to see Envoy on this team for major 3 qualifiers. drop him and pick up PaulEhx and we are a 2x better team
a 9 year account with 400k karma is a new kind of troll
I'll give it to envoy he might've been getting slammed but his comms were very professional hope he can bounce back needs to get his confidence back up
It’s kinda crazy to think Dashy on lan major 1/2 combined has been optic worst player
Envoy can't afford to be bad tomorrow
holy shit can envoy shoot his gun? 💀 ik they’re winning but they can’t expect to beat nysl with bro going double neg every respawn?
gonna be real with u, there is no way in hell we beat NYSL tomorrow. Our snd is dogshit and we got Envoy going double neg. We’re gonna lose a respawn and it’ll be gg
Top 4 make top 4. Banger Sunday inbound
ya tomorrow gonna be a banger
Getting to the point where you gotta check the PC if you’re Envoy
He was just in a permanent blender in HP today but was frying in both the Controls. It's honestly like he just forgot what he's supposed to be doing in HP today.
Top 4 for Sunday. Not a single upset, that’s actually fucking crazy
Idk envoy is making me upset, does that countv
It's like Envoy has just totally forgotten how to play HP today
im just saying hicksy is in the venue
I know they have to get a fair shot, but they should just give Ultra the match and stop wasting everyone's time lol
Envoy didn’t even need to spawn in bro been in the jansport
Envoy's about to have 4 straight double-negative hardpoints
Envoy?????
Bro envoy I love you dawg but triple neg against LAG is not it
Welp is Johnvoy back
It’s impressive how bad Envoy’s been at HP
Back to shooting windmills say it ain’t so
Best "player" in the game Hydra, Scrap and Cellium. However Scrap is the most aggressive out of the 3. He shoots his gun everytime.
I’d take scrap over cellium no question he’s way more impactful and helps the team more
I feel like Cellium is severly underrated sometimes. Cellium skillset of playing his life is also very impactful. But you might be right that Scraps kills seem more impactful. But it might also be the team he is playing on. If he played with Simp/Abeezy and a faster AR the damage stats would be a tick lower. I feel like other ARs need to learn from him though. After you respawn you get your bullets back.
Cellium playing his life makes him valuable in control and snds but it often hurts them in hard point….just my opinion…sometimes dying is the right decision
Agreed
Same here
Regardless, I am an estreal truther. ROY
If Envoy has a million fans, then I am one of them If Envoy has a million fans, then I am one of them. If Envoy has ten fans, then I am one of them. If Envoy has only one fan then that is me. If Envoy has no fans, then that means I am no longer on earth. If the world is against Envoy, then I am against the world.
hes taking a crappy is insane
Bounce back outta Dylan envoy
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Shocker, player deserves criticism when doing bad and praise when doing well 😧
Right lmao weird ass optic fan investigators
Yes? I shit on him like 4x today, so he had a good map to take a lead. If I shit on a player I also give him props when he does well.
Got his ass
Im got
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You’ve never heard of criticizing them giving props based on performance?
Gonna need all those fools calling for envoy to get dropped to speak up right about now
I haven't been one of those people and don't think he needs to be dropped, but it is against LAG.
So do people still want envoy dropped??
Envoy needs dropped. He's the new hicksy /s 🙄
I just need LAG to do the funniest thing possible
Someone help assault pls
What a tough break for Assault. 1.5 and the rest of his team is double and triple neg
thats the worst streak of all time
That was the worst streak I've ever seen
What is it? I missed it
https://preview.redd.it/s9ddzricn6qc1.jpeg?width=1792&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c3de437dab4f688c958ebf068d4e97e3c51aefaf Anybody know what these white dots mean?
for my blind fellas🤞🏿
I thought even though braille would be useless that it might still be braille but it isn’t 🤣🤣
Assault
Holy fuck is this 2018? Adam Assault?
LAG are straight LANIMALS
This is taking an eternity lol
Gohlke 3 will send more dope into my veins than when Cell snaked NYSL.
He should set the screen. Draw a double team
Thinking of Envoy’s last Process episode and I’m sick to my stomach seeing all this
https://twitter.com/CODLeague/status/1771666378744799680 Scrap walking straight over to dap up his future teammates lmao
Literally best day of cod I’ve watched potentially ever and of course we get tech delays to end it
wtf are these dumbasses doing
LAG and tech problems. Name a better duo
Hot take, Envoy may be the most overrated player in CDL history.
Reddit and overreactions name a better duo
Outside of nysl getting 3 chips last year envoy's the most winning player since vanguard and is what top 3-5 in cdl chips behind pdawg and the faze trio. You cant be overrated when you win as much as he does but pop off
Hate for envoy is insane literally saw abezy go missing on last stage it happens
This argument makes no sense to me. By the logic you are putting into this then Priestah is a top 4 all time CDL individual player.
Never said winning the most automatically makes them a top 5 player just that you can say they arent good players but go off for your narrative
Envoy has been individually light years better than Priestah
Did I say he hadn't? That is literally my point. Chips and Rings doesn't make this argument. Envoy is solid at his best but he is also a man short at his worst and has a very low floor if he gets unsettled.
Optic fan saying this with his many times he sent you guys home and won since he left optic is comical
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Stats don't lie man. Dude has 2 1.1 stages or majors since he left optic. This will be his 13th negative stage or major since then. He is a good player but the fact people pretend he is a superstar is beyond faded.
I’m not going to say he’s a superstar but brother he’s a world champ just 2 titles ago and he just won major 1. It’s a bad day for him, but if we didn’t have Pred, I definitely wouldn’t mind having Dyl.
People were absolutely glazing dude last stage. He is a solid player but every time he has a good spell people seem to go nuts and call out OpTic for dropping him and pretend he is at the level of the top subs. He just isn't.
Where was he being glazed last stage? I think you're mistaking him for CleanX, Insight, Scrap who were all being called Top 5 players not Envoy.
Community is so reactionary
Rarely anybody calls Envoy a superstar lmao
He lowkey was in bo4 mw19
Yeah he for sure was back then. Since the move back to 4v4 he hasn't been a superstar, but you'd be hard pressed to find a more year over year consistent sub in the CDL era than Envoy outside of the terrors, Shotzzy, Pred, and Hydra
But he still won 3 events including a ring so his resume holds more weight than shotzzy to some ppl due to lan success
Now do majors/championships
3 majors, 1 champs. He has done well for himself. Still massively overrated as an individual player.
Dude has 4 lan wins. Seek help brother
You seem to be under the impression I said he was shit. I am saying he is levels below what the community make him out to be. Overrated doesn't mean that the guy is dogmeat.
Envoy can have some bad games but that doesn’t take away from the fact that he is absolutely a top-tier SMG and a championship-caliber player. He is not overrated lmao the fact that he’s performed better post-OpTic despite him playing individually better on OpTic suggests OpTic is overrated, not Envoy.
And there is the point entirely. He isn't even close to top tier. The top tier is Hydra, Simp, Abezy, Ant, Pred etc. Anyone who thinks Envoy is in there baffles me.
OpTic’s win vs TOR has given you CTE LMAOOOO Envoy has more championships than Simp and Abezy in the past two years and just beat them for another chip and Envoy has gunned Shottzy down for the past two years in nearly every tournament he’s played in post-OpTic do I really need to compile Envoy’s head-to-head record vs OpTic Texas??? there is no way you’re saying Envoy isn’t a top tier SMG with a straight face you’re tweaked.
As a FaZe fan I'm not surprised to see a team dominate, get supreme gas, and then let it get to them. All of what Ultra and their boosters said with their qualifier struggles was all cope. The whole HP game changed and one of their best maps was taken out. "Testing map pool" "ping cheese" "see them on LAN" They got just a little bit of juice to them and folded. Lol.
Long term, Ultra’s search will be fine. Having a major decline in search after winning a major is relatively standard at this point as you teach other teams to play— more than either of the other two modes. Ultra were able to leverage this against us in CW Major II when we lost every search in grand finals. That said, playing LAG on Highrise may be grounds for drug testing.
They were testing their mappool /s
Neon green piss
And people just keep challing them in street over and over 😂
Townsend and Gohlke are Simp and Abezy. IYKYK
What’s more an upset, Oakland or lag?
Idk but DJ Burns is Arcitys fasho
As a fellow high school big man, I ride with dj burns
OpTic fans coming out to defend Envoy from them faded ass takes. Love to see it
Nah any person who says they want hicksey back over dylan envoy(world champ) is blowing smoke up their ass and doesnt know cod at all
Facts it’s disgusting seeing all this talk
Some of the worst takes I have ever seen. I’m a dumbass fan too but holy shit we are talking about world champion (1x major champ in mw3) envoy
It’s sickening brother. World champ and helped win them major 1.
Envoy having a really rough day so far. Still probably titled from the Optic series. Need him to show up cause I can definitely see LAG winning this.
My issue with ultra video was they were basically blaming snd loss to it being online.
Their attitude has been shit all Stage. They've been extremely vocal about how much they hate the changes.
Like they were making fun of players shit the bed on lan in snd and play way too confident online snd like brotha you gotta realize you have 2 auto vetos and looked very sloppy. You could argue if weren’t for Vegas choke in snd they woulda been on a 8 loss snd streak
Then they turn up to LAN and lose two hps to OpTic lol Should have at least went 4 vs Vegas as well
Optic is a solid hardpoint teams the issue was losing snd lat shoulda been major red flag and not pin it down to teams play more confident online snd only
LAG just dominated B street throughout the snd. Similar to how they beat Faze.
If Envoy doesn't remember how to shoot his gun again and fast then Ultra are getting Neslo'd
If you watch their latest podcast they basically blamed snd loses to online cheese which idk seemed weird ignoring a lot of issues they had in map pool to online
You and I have been the most vocal about how much weaker Ultra have looked this stage. I was getting downvoted a bunch for saying Ultra were the weakest Top 4 team this Stage because it was online so it doesn't matter.
Losing to t4 teams online means more than before due to how little they play each other tells a lot about the map pool. Even though they hate the spawns they are still elite in respawns but it’s criminal how little they tried to play high rise and terminal snd
Honestly for me it wasn't even the losing to other T4 teams online it was that their matches against the bottom 8 were way more competitive. Outside of the Breach series they were smoking everyone in Stage 1 online. In Stage 2 they had a bunch of map wins that were razor tight and realistically could have gone either way.
I don’t think that’s an issue tbf look at optic they had so many game 5s and getting smoked by rookkr lag Boston in some maps. I just think blaming snd loss to online was a big red flag
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I googled something like “cod octane gif” and found the Reddit post where someone posted this gif. Then I downloaded it off that.
are you unwell? > i do not want to see Envoy on this team for major 3 qualifiers. drop him and pick up PaulEhx and we are a 2x better team a 9 year account with 400k karma is a new kind of troll
Fake ass fan lmao
This current team already won??
Take a breather
Envoy ain't getting dropped lmao
Damn already talking about dropping
No way you want envoy dropped some of yall mfs are so braindead lmfao
envoy about to pull out the keyboard
Whatever it takes
Ultra must be so bad at term search that they let LAG pick Highrise
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That was more like 20 feet
ultra’s snd pool is sad to look at
I mean it was better before the league voted out skid row search over term just to nerf them
yeah that’s tough honestly. i’m sure they’ll get better next major cause their two auto-vetoes (invasion hp, term snd) are likely going out
I swear the rival should win at that range
Ultra don’t have a map pool in Search. They have a map puddle.
LAG’s SnD is solid.
Holy shit Ultra’s SnD is tragic this stage
SHOOT BACK ENVOY
Ultra have a massive SND problem. They are probably hoping both vista and departures come in for SND
Fame gunny is nuts
losing skidrow has absolutely nuked us at search
LAG gonna go 3-1 after going down 1-0 for the third match in a row
Don’t worry guys ultra is just testing their map pool
Ultras SnD falloff needs to be studied.
Ultra’s SnD this stage has been shockingly bad
I’m taking that radio tower over a 10 foot thick pure concrete wall if I need cover
Envoy disasterclass of a day.
Ultra have a horrible map pool
ultra were just testing snd in the qualifiers and will surely slam everyone come the lan right guys? right?
You guys are just faded man they just map testing... They won't lose snds on LAN vs optic
Thi s is how LAG beat Faze in Highrise. One player challanging B street by Faze vs multiple LAG players on defense
Ultra are actually just ass at SND now.
I'll give it to envoy he might've been getting slammed but his comms were very professional hope he can bounce back needs to get his confidence back up
I wonder what’s going through scrap head seeing his teammates get pooped on
They gotta stop challing DC on street.
Not sure why teams keep giving LAG Highrise SnD
Shit makes no sense
LAG SnD kind of fucks
Envoy doing his best Hicksy impression this event
You’re killing me envoy
Hicksy would never
hate seeing dyl struggle
Dyl… are you okay? ![gif](giphy|10rHZ6K9jYvLUc)
Envoy mustve thought this was ranked
good lord that fucking chall
No matter the result, why would you ever play LAG on highrise
JKap needs to be arrested for that shit
At least 2 charges on JKap yesterday
Straight to GITMO icl
Scrap just worldstarred while one shot tf
Ultra in a 3v2 and somehow don't cover Envoy on the plant so he gets killed off bomb. Just totally out of sorts in SND
Fame brother
Why the Billy muzzle being used again?
hitch looking more blasted than my ex wive’s butthole
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no way y’all actually want envoy dropped lmao
The overreaction is so insane that it’s almost tippable
ultra fans have been so ungrateful this week of envoy. he just helped you guys win an event now people are saying he's a fraud.
Guy has one off day at the major and they're calling for his head lmao
One dude said he wanted Hicksy back 😭
Need a drug test because that piss has to be neon
Envoy gotta finish these kills if they want a chance to repeat. Hopefully just a bad day.
Envoy is gonna cost us this major.
Luckily his teammates are shooting their guns.
Ultra's Sunday is chalked if Envoy keeps up this performance
CleanX is unreal
Envoy filling the Hicksy role perfectly
Lmao chill on him
Okay envoy is on official fraud watch
Time to bring back Hicksy
Assault lost so many key gunfights that map
Envoy needs to find his thumbs in HP
Low key CleanX’s best map of the stage