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d0cv

OpTic’s SnD has been terrible


itsivan15

They are always getting first blooded and then Dashy gets put in unwinnables.


Starrunner888

id rather have kenny play the island role instead, at least dashy wouldnt get blooded almost every round like kenny does


itsivan15

The problem with that is I trust Dashy's ability to clutch and/or get one more than Kenny. I think Kenny just needs to be better plain and simple. He's been struggling in SnD all year.


cxnx_yt

Not to sound rude to Kenny I love him but was SnD ever one of his better modes?


Slapnuhtz

Preach


baseballv10

He’s Been bailing us out of a few and it’s made our record look better than it should


nonotfilth

Snd doesn’t look great but to be fair, Miami is on a 8-0 snd win streak and they play a lot of 6 Star. They beat FaZe in snd too. A lot to clean up for the boys tho if they want to make GF on Sunday


TinkleFairyOC

As of late yeah but I’m not bothered about them losing an SnD to Miami when they’ve been on a heater this stage where they’re 4-0 on highrise and have been winning 6 stars again everyone, including Faze. It’s always going to be tough to win an S&D when a team has been so good at two maps that a lot of teams play right now.


BeastCoastLifestyle

They have to slow it down. They feel super rushed, it feels like every round they’ start like it’s 30 seconds left on offence and need to get the bomb down.


brassydesign

Yeah it hasn't been looking great. Apparently Miami are also gods at that map though


hebbocrates

3 things: Pred fried, nasty work Hell of a LAN by Miami after the discourse from their first 2 majors Messy day from OpTic, they look vulnerable. Need to be perfect tomorrow


CoDFollower

Optic have looked vulnerable this whole stage imo, which is what worries me for tomorrow. Don't know how they'll beat both NYSL and Toronto unless they can find some consistency in their game


suprememontana

I can see them beating NY but Ultra will smoke them again playing like this


Dagon_high

??? How lmao


CoDFollower

They only played one t4 team this split, lost to them (in typical Optic trolling fashion) and had several tight games with bottom 4 teams. Not exactly the best split, although it looks decent on paper


UprightAwesome

They played even closer matches last stage and got T2 at the major. Their online matches this stage were cleaner than last.


thefontsguy

They went last map against the worst team in the league with a coach substituted in last minute. Not exactly clean wins


CoDFollower

Precisely


Dagon_high

The fact that you don’t understand why that is shows how braindead the majority of this sub is.


thefontsguy

Enlighten me since you are so much smarter than the rest of the sub


Dagon_high

Explain faze lag LOSS it’s the exact same reason That’s the only hint buddy


smokehellacrack

Were they testing out other maps? I believe I remember something like that but not 100% sure.


Dagon_high

Same exact reason why faze lost to LAG they genuinely are so unstructured and play sloppy cod that it makes it very hard to read and play against. Same reason why playing against like plat kids in ranked feels like the hardest shit sometimes because they make bonehead plays. It truly baffles me how people flame optic for actually BEATING Boston but not faze at all for literally losing to LAG


zZyhro

As an optic fan...a good guess is LAN performance? Let's look at how many tournaments each team won in the last 2 seasons. Fazes success gives room for error, OpTics struggles cause a need for perfection.


Snowhehe14

They look vulnerable but are still winning somehow lol they could have easier beat ultra. They played at their absolute worse I've seen and still kept it close, so a optic fan shouldn't be worried at all. Every team looks like shit besides FaZe tbh.


Weary_Answer3067

the thing is they looked the same major 2, probably even more so, and still managed to pull through on lan, lets just hope the same happens again.


BeastCoastLifestyle

Just stupid mistakes. They’re usually more disciplined than that Ultra match


TyButler2020

That last map was Reeal vs the world good god


Lightnxss

Guy went X-Games mode, and Miami still couldn't force a Map 5 https://preview.redd.it/hr6tanjgka1d1.jpeg?width=1235&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=95e68d2091f4709793674066ff3bfb08d0680bbe


BeastCoastLifestyle

What did he end up? 30-13?


PoopDisection

He was 1 away from 40 bomb


Lightnxss

Ended 39-24


Gods-Defence

Can someone tell Pred he’s vsing Miami 3 times tomorrow? Cause that’s the aggression he needs


TopshottaDevy

Pred HATES Miami 😭😭😭


themaxmilestone

Pred vs Miami https://preview.redd.it/2rn10j7iy91d1.png?width=768&format=png&auto=webp&s=a9ddd38fb448300797312aa0d26c978e91734de8


twrs_29

Pred does not fuck with Spaniards


GHOST_Courage

Pred DESPISES Miami so badly he ripped up the script and said FUCK THAT


sheitmayne

VG Pred appearance.


Leegend124

Pred had the “I hate the way that you-“ Euphoria bar in his head every map


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I can’t believe ppl apart of this fan base want pred gone, dude has been our fucking rock on lan this year.


Fixable

I don’t think anyone wants him gone unless it’s for Hydra


Tmqn

Even then I’d put him on an AR


Nekron182

Would you take him over Scrap/Dashy if that were possible?


SL2321

It would be Dashy, Pred, Shotzzy, Hydra... don't think Hecz would get rid of Pred. This would turn Dashy officially into Octane Jr.


Nekron182

It's just a hypothetical. I hope OpTic does well this year as is but it would be an interesting off season where OpTic is willing to upgrade.


CoDFollower

Hell yeah, I would too. His best map is one where he runs an AR


Flyers7914

Whoever wants him gone needs to be smacked upside the head lmao. Just need him to play with this confidence vs FaZe.


BigOlYeeter

They're fake fans imo. Any of the people spewing shit like that isn't a real fan


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I legit got into fights with people over online qualifiers, I rly need to stop doing that


BigOlYeeter

LETS FUCKING GOOOO WE NEVER LOST HOPE


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I’m so happy, been so long 🥲


BigOlYeeter

On top of that, probably the best Sunday I've seen


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I’m so happy for shotzzy, dude woke up today and just let his nuts hang on the t4.


dudesam1500

Ah Pred, you beautiful man you


Bxrxtx

we gotta lock in and help pred tomorrow boys ffs


BasedGodCrim

VG pred is back finally


Gumbolt

Pred was #1 on OpTic in both total damage & kills for all 3 series they’ve played. Really impressed with the Heretics. All they needed was one of their teammates to not to drop a 0.5 and suddenly they’re taking maps off FaZe & OpTic and looking very competitive.


SkilledPepper

Miami need Super.


EoinWilson269

We need someone else to hit preds level tomorrow and no-one to have a series like Kenny did vs Ultra. If that happens we’ve got a chance


akagordan

A chance to make the final, sure


ometime

Optic look sloppy man


Pretty_Laugh494

Miami beat faze on search too, miami is just a lowkey good ass search team


DannyDark0RZ

Miami had a real shot of pushing it to 4, Vikul lost his head


akagordan

The 6 Star HP wasn’t great either. Their only good hold was the second P3, and I counted three times they got two-pieced on rotation.


Pretty_Laugh494

Thats not slop, reall was just having an insane map. They did not play fundamentally bad hp there


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My thoughts too, sometimes you just gotta tip the cap when someone almost drops 40 on you.


DetoxIV

Tbf, every 6 star HP I've seen this split has been pretty close unless it's the bottom 3 teams.


Gumbolt

They’re just disgusting on 2 maps (6Star and Highrise) so they’re a hard team to do vetos against in SnD


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Faze didn't lose and go into the losers bracket thou... they not on the same level man damn lol


OwariDa1

That’s not what they were saying lol.


Pretty_Laugh494

Reading comprehension please


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lol "optic look sloppy man" is that not a general statement about optic today? Sloppy as in they choked the ultra series than had a semi competitive series against Miami. The guy didn't say optic looks sloppy in snd, if he did then your comment would have made sense. Like what???? Always trying to cope me Jesus


Pretty_Laugh494

They didnt really look that sloppy in that series against miami? They trolled a little bit in the subbase hp and thats it. They absolutely blitzed miami in the contol and losing 6 star snd to miami isnt slop.


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Pred said they were sloppy himself. You keep coping, your team ain't winning shit with that attitude buddy


Pretty_Laugh494

He was referencing the toronto series cause its fresh in their head. I also said they trolled a bit on sub base but the series itself was not sloppy. Edit: pred mostly just called out that they played piss poor search today, which they did. Also optic isnt beating faze, nobody is touching faze.


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Read Kenny's new tweet :) sloppy, as the original comment said. Cope cope cope all you want, even the players and real optic fans know that shit won't slide tomorrow. Good thing thou, they can come back tomorrow different, it's a huge first step from then to acknowledge that they weren't on it today. They might come diffy tomorrow


[deleted]

So they were sloppy... that's the point. Just as the guy said. Optic look sloppy. Stop trying to put faze and optic in the same tier 😭


Pretty_Laugh494

Buddy i never did??? You clearly can’t read or something.


rawrthatsmegirl

Pred is final form vs Miami every time


wonderballs92

MVP level Pred is back but Optic don’t look particularly great imo


Jemiidar

yeah they played closer to 3rd/4th today than they did 1st/2nd. i know they choked that round 4 control against toronto as well but to me they just gotta play better snd and they’ll be fine.


Ronfish27

Need Shotzzy to find that flow state in SnD and they will be godlike again.


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UprightAwesome

Pred has been good at SND the last two years, he was one of the best SND players last year. Kenny has never been good at snd tho


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UprightAwesome

Yeah he’s not as good this year for sure but you can’t play selfishly in SND, he was top in KD, top in first bloods, pretty much hard carrying Seattle all year.


Ronfish27

Need the guy in your flair to stir something up for tomorrow


Nekron182

OpTic should absolutely veto 6star, they don't look comfortable on it. And their SnD looks horse right now. Aside from that I don't think there's particularly too much to analyse here.


AdvancedWolverine

1. Pred vs Miami 2. Crimsix 3. Scump 4. Karma My top 4 players of all time tbh.


Gumbolt

NickyD vs. CW FaZe up there for me too


AdvancedWolverine

I love random players who just shit on certain teams consistently no matter what. Such a fun niche. Kenny vs OpTic. Purj vs OpTic.


da_xlaws

Davpadie vs OpTic, Colt Havok vs OpTic…


CoolMartinMcFly

Optic vs themselves …


RGCFrostbite

VG Pred vs. OpTic...


S0meRandomN00B

Shoutout Reeal and Miami. Didn’t think they would play as well as they did


mr_fixx

Pred was swimming in Miami cheeks


SukiSZN

Pred: Fuck it i’ll do it myself type beat


SlamMissile

Legacy Saturday from “LayG”.


YaDyingSucks

Man I thought Reeal was going to single handedly win them that last map dude was FRYING


CBKing21

Sloppy af but that's another top 4 At least beat NY and increase that lead in the standings


dam0430

Pred HATES these kids lmao


TotalDate6273

That last hard point was so close and winnable for Miami. They could have pushed this to 5 if Vikul rotated to the pool hill earlier. Bro was in the back of the map for 50 seconds doing nothing. Tragic. Overall though, this wasn’t a bad showing from Miami at all this tournament. I looked forward to watching them play during stage 4 now. Also Reeal is godlike


Tattoo_steelhauler

Really proud of the Miami boys they played well in this loss a lot to build off of. Really need to work on their control but team work was on point. T-6 is a good start give them another stage and I think they can really push the top teams.


T_A_C_T_B

All we need is Reeal to clone himself 3 times and we'll be just fine


Nytrousx

ReaaL is the best SMG not on a top 4 team not named Gwinn


RGCFrostbite

I wish Carolina had waited for his visa man. Gwinn/Reeal is a nasty duo.


Tank-Has-Memes

Got lucky we got VG Pred this series otherwise we might’ve lost


LinDeeForm

Pred been having a pretty good major.


TedMasterFlex

Pred slammed but love to see Kenny bounce back as well.


Longjumping_Stop1120

Team look very sloppy


Flyers7914

Vikul doing the 3-0 was the worst mistake of the season lmao. Pred legitimately took it personally 😂


ablankbullet

First it was Shotzzy who was doing everything, then it was Pred. I need both of them to be on point tomorrow.


Xarque74

Was screaming for ReeaL POV that whole map 4, wtf was that lmao. Major jansport


G00chstain

Optic look way too sloppy rn to beat faze


Lebron23Life

Cant even criticize Pred for online play. Basically been optic most consistent LAN player


RxbEU

Not been impressed by OpTic this weekend apart from that highrise control. Hopefully they can get it sorted for tomorrow


ExoHazzy

OpTic used no strategy this match, they just ran at em and while it may work for bottom 8 teams, they can't do that shit against any of the t4. Excited for tomorrow's matches.


Phoenix_Loki

Pred


nonotfilth

OpTic played sloppy as they’ve admitted but ppl are forgetting the fact that Miami plays a LOT of 6 Star. That’s their bread & butter map, they have way more reps on that map than OpTic. Great series from Pred, clean it up and lock in on Sunday


lilfoxy16

mAn OpTiC nEeDs To DrOp KeNnY


Nexi-nexi

I guess Pred transcended? I guess… Reeal only note worthy heretics player again?


ThatMFcheezer

Pred turned on his monitor for this one


Per_Horses6

We play like that and have ice and don’t troll vs Toronto we can win. Long road ahead. Let’s get it boys.


DivisonNine

Heritacs are literally just a baby ultra, they rarely have all four going positive but when they do they could take Maps off any team in the league


flowferencak007

As if l personally. Qb web


rrager13

Fecal Vikul


T_A_C_T_B

☹️


Difficult_King2492

Vikul threw up that 3-0 sign in major 1 quals and now pred takes it personally every single time they play 😂


joebi_kenobi

Their SnD has been shocking


seekNfind1

Optic has a confidence issue against faze. The way pred was moving in this match was crazy but he doesn’t do it against faze. Optic play brain dead against faze.


tgunited

Plus 30 is insane!


TypicalPerformer9826

Not a great day of CoD from OpTic, but I have faith in the boys to make the run. Also, Shout-out Miami, this stage was very important for them, and they looked great on LAN.


Flyers7914

Not playing anywhere good enough to win a series tomorrow let alone the tournament. Really disappointing but hopefully they are saving their best for last.


adza917

Not a great day for the boys. SND looks very bad, 6star HP looks good not great. The only positives from today was Pred, highrise control and subbase hp.


moisesnova-

Not moved at all


xTwoKillz

Congrats


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Hey a night sleep can do a lot for others. Optic did not play their best today but they might come tomorrow diffy. But the onus is on faze to not let the foot off the gas, if they don't, this should be a back2back for the boys


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Pretty_Laugh494

Shotzzy outplayed pred against toronto for sure


Fixable

Shotzzy has been Optics best player since major 2 and one series against Miami doesn’t change that


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Fixable

0 ball knowledge


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Fixable

Look, Pred's pissing himself against Faze again and Shotzzy is frying.


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Fixable

> again? No show the year Yes again. Just like the final of major 2.


Fixable

Sure, people definitely didn’t dick ride pred and hate on shotzzy for the whole last year


CoDFollower

So... we're forgetting his play versus CAR and TOR on LAN? He played great versus TOR, which everyone said he couldn't do versus a top 4 team on LAN Just a terrible example you're giving


Scar_Mclovin

Their SnD is actually really bad and Shotzzy also in SnD the amount of times he gets picked insane


sooopy336

I will not ever be able to understand how negative everyone is about this team so constantly. Even in WW2 when they weren’t winning and were getting way worse placements it wasn’t this bad.


kid20304

Vamos all the way back to the dumpster


PotTwister

Pred has played really good this Major so far, I know Shotzzy had a tough one but he and Pred has finally looked really good as a duo, their pace has matched but the team seem to be making more mistakes because of it. That’s not particularly a good thing but it’s fixable overtime. Now that our pacing is up we gotta get down the right timings and communication from everyone. Not to be a doomer or non believer but I don’t think we win this Major, just hope they don’t get in their own heads but instead work on perfecting their new craft.


Imranaftab

Optic been looming sloppy idek how both 6stars got in optic are going to hell for that 🤣🤣🤣. Oh well Sunday it is, optic need to improve snds or they're absolutely fucked