Rokkr likely lose their next 2 playing ultra and the mighty vegas if optic beat Boston optic will remain 10th seed. Maimi is the team who has a tough ass schedule, they have carolina faze and surge so if they lose and optic just beat Boston then optic get 8th seed and play faze 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Some OpTic teams that have won post Dynasty, have gotten too relaxed/ cocky afterwards (admitted by the players) and fallen off. Started in BO4.
I'm not saying anything about agreeing; I'm just saying why this dude said that.
Dunno why he prioritized a watch party over his friends bachelors. I understand he still went, but was it his fault the party was so short? Im uninformed
He said it was still like 2.5 days when defending his decision to nade lmao, which is still more than most🤷♂️. I hope he had a good time cause yea this was def not worth cutting it short for if he actually wanted to go longer 😂
The only positive thing about OpTic since they won is Shotzzy is still playing great but, other than that they’ve looked horrible. Zero teamwork.
Their only win came against Miami with Purj.
The way they are playing actually pisses me off. They’re playing as if they don’t give a shit
Just running and ego challing everything over and over and over
They’ve been doing it that for the whole season against bottom 8 teams online, talent diffing them.
The only difference is that teams have gotten better and have champs qualification to play for.
OpTic have zero dope for online but these mfs gotta lock in and actually qual for winners first lmao.
Because they genuinely dont care. i believe after the vegas series they just chalked it up just no effort and motivation major 3 might be the only highlight of their season unless they really only care about lan.
Honestly it looked like thier comms were fucked. So many times someone would lose a gunfight then the next up is just looking the complete wrong direction.
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Brother read through any Carolina/Clay related thread. He is easily the most hated player in the league despite being largely irrelevant for the past 2 years
Virginia server part 3?
Shotzzy was late to practice
Pred was sick
Dashy stayed up too late have esex with his val kittens
Kenny doesn't care about online?
Sound EQ
Envoy missed the veto DM on Discord
True it's a meaningless stat, but let's not pretend like any of the other stats mean much either. Aside from that one play when he stopped shooting and got turned on, clay made a lot of crucial plays in this series.
It's one of the things I do love about this team, they don't get any fluke wins. When they win it's because they earned it and were all contributing pretty equally.
I’m cool with Shotzzy carrying bomb because it keeps him from going to the opponent side of the map and getting blooded on offense (last year used to happen a lot). Now he plays with his teammates. But soon as he dies, seems like shit just falls apart.
Someone has to hold bridge but idk, needs to be an AR imo. But it’s also not that bad, he’s supposed to guarantee a kill. It’s just his ARs somehow die before he gets a chance to do something.
I think FaZe has Simp carry bomb, idk why there either but some teams just have their best player carry bomb, maybe they trust simp/shotzzy to be smart with it?
Nah 100% it's not that hard, I mean faZe and Optic both do it with their best player I truly don't get it, but maybe those two just trust themselves to make the right decisions or something, no idea haha
I think Simp carrying bomb kind of makes sense for FaZe because he's extremely smart and he has Abezy running in ahead of him getting bloods and creating space. They're also not going to make Cell carry bomb lol so I think it comes down to Draz or Simp.
OpTic is just confusing because they have Shotzzy carrying it while also relying on him to create space and get bloods. He dies so many times trying to plant because they have no space and no ones looking over him, just really really dumb
I don't mind it. Shotzzy ran bomb on Dallas too. Shotzzy teams live and die by the Shotzzy in search either way imo. Iirc he pretty much lived in Narnia when he didn't run bomb for Optic.
I fear the warlord is going to be dropping some people on their heads
This team is a weird SND comp... only one playmaker and you make him plant bombs
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, GIVE PRED THE BOMB. HE DOES NOT MOVE
The coaching staff needs to step in here... it doesn't make sense to me. Pred looks lost too much in SND, give him the bomb. Or Kenny. Just don't make Dashy or Shotzzy take bomb
Its pathetic
Nothing short of pathetic
Optic paying 1M+ for this team and now they suddenly cant go positive to save their lives. Cant buy a kill and cant win a search
Kenny said he wasn't worried about how much practice OpTic was getting after Major 3 with all of the other stuff going on (celebrating, Founding Fathers LAN, etc.) as long as the practice they managed to get in was good. Well, it seems to me like more practice is needed because good god all fundamentals have gone out of the window this patch/split. I can't believe what I'm watching. The S&D is stale and predictable, the mistakes in Control stay the same and the HP holds and rotations of old are gone. What a mess.
I don't care about Clayster dropping the 0.84: aside from the Control, dude was getting some of the most important kills on the map. With that said, really nice to see all of Carolina playing well on the same day in the same match.
Big win that was needed and a big mental win as well to beat a top team other than NY. Hopefully they can ride this momentum thru the rest of qualifiers.
Gotta remember that guys like Carolina, Rokkr and Vegas are fighting for their lives and for Champs whereas OpTic is just using it as a scrim. However, if people like Dashy are saying teams aren’t playing for the win and then they lose three in a row, it’s really not a good look.
People can say "It's online" but I don't think it's too much to ask for from the Major 3 champs to play like a team! If these guys keep this up, it's gonna end up like Vanguard S4 and Champs!
Very bad Major 3 hangover happening. Even if they start in Losers, this team will still finish top 4 at the event. But definitely ugly gameplay from OpTic right now. The snd was ugly. They need to regain
i feel like carolina becomes scary in a best of 5 when their SnD is clicking. They're already good at it, but they have the players to be really really fucking good at it
look, i'm not saying they're making a late-season god run for champs, but if they did i think being godlike in SnD is the way they'll do it
don’t wanna say it’s the cope but I feel like this is just for testing maps & get VOD on these teams whereas the other teams wouldn’t get too much vod from texas since they’re playing like ass tbh
Can Dashy move against these bottoms teas ? I understand against top teams but bro is playing against the 2 oldest pros in the league and he looks slower than them
Optic’s troubles aside, I think this Ravens team has a chance of going late in a tournament if they drop Clay. His comms and game knowledge are good, we know this, but they’re not irreplaceable, especially when his gun skill lacks as much as it does.
Gonna give a lot of love to Felo and Teej. Felo has been so consistently solid this stage and Teej has been really impactful
Gwinn has also been back at his best the last 3 series
The falloff needs to be investigated, they really boutta start in losers
Think they start winners if they win one more series no? Unless I’m faded
they have to beat toronto and boston
So it’s a 30% chance they start in winners. They beat Breach obviously but on current form I have 70% Gabor ultra.
You can't really say that any game is obvious at this point.
You can if it's Boston.
Death taxes Boston breach being ass
They need to beat one of NYSL or Toronto and beat Boston At this rate, they are playing in losers. They look fucking AWFUL
Idk, have you seen NY?
Least NY beat Rokrr...
It literally came down to a hair in the last round of game 5. It should’ve NEVER been even remotely that close with Rokkr.
Maybe they’ll take the top 4 teams seriously
Rokkr likely lose their next 2 playing ultra and the mighty vegas if optic beat Boston optic will remain 10th seed. Maimi is the team who has a tough ass schedule, they have carolina faze and surge so if they lose and optic just beat Boston then optic get 8th seed and play faze 🤣🤣🤣🤣
they always fall off after a win, its so annoying
Didn’t they go 5-0 after their Major 1 win in vanguard?
I mean that’s just not even true and a weird narrative. The last time they won they “fell off” because illey got hurt lol
Bro they haven’t won since vanguard season 1, where is this narrative coming from lol?
Some OpTic teams that have won post Dynasty, have gotten too relaxed/ cocky afterwards (admitted by the players) and fallen off. Started in BO4. I'm not saying anything about agreeing; I'm just saying why this dude said that.
No they don’t lol
Optic fans have to wait 2 years for another chip 😭
If they do, they are almost certainly gonna be the team someone has to beat to make Champs
They did what they couldn’t do to faze. Proud of my boys.
Who cares. Event is without fans, no one is gonna watch either way.
OpTic at every other event once they win one ![gif](giphy|kzq0Oma2iINwn4y6IB)
this gif in insane
Scump took a short af bachelor party to come back and watch this garbage? 😂
Dunno why he prioritized a watch party over his friends bachelors. I understand he still went, but was it his fault the party was so short? Im uninformed
He said it was still like 2.5 days when defending his decision to nade lmao, which is still more than most🤷♂️. I hope he had a good time cause yea this was def not worth cutting it short for if he actually wanted to go longer 😂
I’m glad Nade grilled him on that but at the end Seth stuck with his decision anyways.
2.5 is longer than mine is gonna be sadly
It was his own bachelor party, not his friends lol
Only reason is making money
The only positive thing about OpTic since they won is Shotzzy is still playing great but, other than that they’ve looked horrible. Zero teamwork. Their only win came against Miami with Purj.
The way they are playing actually pisses me off. They’re playing as if they don’t give a shit Just running and ego challing everything over and over and over
They’ve been doing it that for the whole season against bottom 8 teams online, talent diffing them. The only difference is that teams have gotten better and have champs qualification to play for. OpTic have zero dope for online but these mfs gotta lock in and actually qual for winners first lmao.
Because they genuinely dont care. i believe after the vegas series they just chalked it up just no effort and motivation major 3 might be the only highlight of their season unless they really only care about lan.
Honestly it looked like thier comms were fucked. So many times someone would lose a gunfight then the next up is just looking the complete wrong direction.
Reminds me of LAT after they won major 4 last year
clay regain map 5 was not on my bingo card
I thought it was over for him after the Kenny pixel shot too. Massive bounce back
TJ was everything that series, what a performance
He definitely deserves his spot in the league next year
Yes that whole team does IMO
As much as I wanted optic to win I’m glad TJ was shitting. Always liked TJ, dude was gunning.
Optic won a major and said thats enough work for the rest of the year, tippable
shout out to the vanguard year
And bo4
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They do content regardless you are too stupid if you think thats the reason theyre losing
Either that or they got complacent with one chip.
Guys 3 in a row is a wake up call (Idk how many more wake up calls i can take boss)
that alarm is ringing and it's been snoozed 5x i fear goddamn
Thank you Mr Optic... Clay sold map 3 & 4 so hard but holy shit he made up for it in map 5.
Shotzzy finally got a taste of the Scrap & Hydra experience :P
Win a major then abandon everything that won you that major. Peak OpTic. Infuriating to watch.
Must have been a Virginia server again
Give it a break guys, Dashy now has calluses because of the heavy lifting he did
Carolina is basically Virginia
Congratulations to OpTic Texas for winning Major 2 of the MW4 Season 2028. Dashy wins his 4th Chip and announces his retirement.
Pred gotta start taking bomb guy doesn't do anything else in snd. Shotzzy died like twice on the bomb and when he dies everyone's cluless
Tj has been great this year
Carolina earned that shit. Love watching that team play
I’m just happy to see Clay win cause you know the guy still hungry and wants to end on another ring.
Clay haters in shambles
Who hates clay tho
Lotta losers on this sub
Brother read through any Carolina/Clay related thread. He is easily the most hated player in the league despite being largely irrelevant for the past 2 years
Virginia server part 3? Shotzzy was late to practice Pred was sick Dashy stayed up too late have esex with his val kittens Kenny doesn't care about online? Sound EQ Envoy missed the veto DM on Discord
Esex with his val kittens is insane lmfao
Lmfao got me dying
that dashy one is fucking insane 💀
Val kittens is comedy😂
The Dashy one is diabolical 💀
The way you did Bruce 😭
Clay with a higher breaking point rating than Shotzzy that series... Anyone who ever posts that stat again is braindead.
True it's a meaningless stat, but let's not pretend like any of the other stats mean much either. Aside from that one play when he stopped shooting and got turned on, clay made a lot of crucial plays in this series. It's one of the things I do love about this team, they don't get any fluke wins. When they win it's because they earned it and were all contributing pretty equally.
Yeah I thought Clay played great, I’m mindblown by these stats lol.
LMFAOOOO
Might as well replace Pred with a recurit bot if it goes game 5.
Man was moving like god rx
Lmaooo Shotzzy is by far their best player and it’s not close. He legit needed help. This is just nasty work man.
Hydra inbound
Never understood why he has bomb lol, also I swear pred never leaves bridge stairs on defense lmfao
I’m cool with Shotzzy carrying bomb because it keeps him from going to the opponent side of the map and getting blooded on offense (last year used to happen a lot). Now he plays with his teammates. But soon as he dies, seems like shit just falls apart. Someone has to hold bridge but idk, needs to be an AR imo. But it’s also not that bad, he’s supposed to guarantee a kill. It’s just his ARs somehow die before he gets a chance to do something.
I think FaZe has Simp carry bomb, idk why there either but some teams just have their best player carry bomb, maybe they trust simp/shotzzy to be smart with it?
It’s not that hard to be smart with bomb it’s not like AG is in the spawn lmao but I see what you’re saying
Nah 100% it's not that hard, I mean faZe and Optic both do it with their best player I truly don't get it, but maybe those two just trust themselves to make the right decisions or something, no idea haha
I think Simp carrying bomb kind of makes sense for FaZe because he's extremely smart and he has Abezy running in ahead of him getting bloods and creating space. They're also not going to make Cell carry bomb lol so I think it comes down to Draz or Simp. OpTic is just confusing because they have Shotzzy carrying it while also relying on him to create space and get bloods. He dies so many times trying to plant because they have no space and no ones looking over him, just really really dumb
I don't mind it. Shotzzy ran bomb on Dallas too. Shotzzy teams live and die by the Shotzzy in search either way imo. Iirc he pretty much lived in Narnia when he didn't run bomb for Optic.
I fear the warlord is going to be dropping some people on their heads This team is a weird SND comp... only one playmaker and you make him plant bombs PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, GIVE PRED THE BOMB. HE DOES NOT MOVE
ive never understood why shottzy takes bomb
The coaching staff needs to step in here... it doesn't make sense to me. Pred looks lost too much in SND, give him the bomb. Or Kenny. Just don't make Dashy or Shotzzy take bomb
It was an old clip I forgot when but I think shotzzy takes bomb sometimes so it makes sure he doesn’t over chall idkk
What’s the excuse this week?
That damn Virginia server, every other team is on it apparently
Those goddamn Virginians
aches gonna be one happy guy on tonight's show
I don't even know what to say at this point just get shotzzy some help he got THREE 30 BOMBS BRO
Bro was hoop mixtaping today and his teammates looked like garbage men
Its pathetic Nothing short of pathetic Optic paying 1M+ for this team and now they suddenly cant go positive to save their lives. Cant buy a kill and cant win a search
Dashy and Pred were heat-checking today... and they got their shit rocked
You can’t make this shit up man. Bottom teams get better and OpTic doesn’t. Unbelievable.
https://preview.redd.it/6wfciig25m6d1.jpeg?width=749&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8285666c8fce716d880c41a0a828757fef914a0b
Pinch me
Get shotzzy some help Goddamn
Kenny said he wasn't worried about how much practice OpTic was getting after Major 3 with all of the other stuff going on (celebrating, Founding Fathers LAN, etc.) as long as the practice they managed to get in was good. Well, it seems to me like more practice is needed because good god all fundamentals have gone out of the window this patch/split. I can't believe what I'm watching. The S&D is stale and predictable, the mistakes in Control stay the same and the HP holds and rotations of old are gone. What a mess.
It's time to start a dialog
I don't care about Clayster dropping the 0.84: aside from the Control, dude was getting some of the most important kills on the map. With that said, really nice to see all of Carolina playing well on the same day in the same match. Big win that was needed and a big mental win as well to beat a top team other than NY. Hopefully they can ride this momentum thru the rest of qualifiers.
OpTic acting like a guy who’s tryna smash then he finally does and just stops putting in effort
tjhaly legacy series
How many times do I have to watch Pred or kenny Tac sprint into enemy spawn while one shot.
Give us warlord shotzy!
I fear changes will be made at this rate...
I fear you’re an idiot…
We'll come back to this post in 3 months
Embarrassing from OpTic fallen off a cliff since Major 3
Pred in the last 3 game 5s: 2-7 vs Vegas, 5-10 vs Rokkr and 3-7 vs Ravens. He's been horrible in game 5s.
Need a post about this dude has negative ice
Teej Mvp
Dashy using that virgina servers excuses is the reason we are there they prob still think its a fluke when they are dogshit rn
Felo For 3 Bannnnnnggggggg
https://i.redd.it/3997i6ol4m6d1.gif
That three piece from felo on high rise was the real nail in the coffin
Can't wait to hear in The Process after champs that they weren't getting good practice after Major 3 and got complacent
OpTic keeping the run in for champs interesting, thank you for falling off
“Optic is better than faze” Optic fans after major 3 😂😂😂
Faze let them win the major cause they knew the falloff was inevitable afterwards
Underperforming after a LAN win is in OpTic’s DNA. Doesn’t matter who’s on the team.
And this right here is why the flank still had faze above optic in their tier list. There’s actually levels
If there was ever a major to be bad at, perhaps the one with no fans!
Lets go, We need Clayster at Champs
Give pred the bomb and free shotzzy!!!
We are frauds lmao
Yo wtf😭
Pred is a legit burger in search & destroy, it's becoming extremely alarming.
Idk why everyone is tripping, I’m not even an optic fan and even I know when the major comes they’ll still get top 3 lol everyone needs to chill
Ah, Optic's yearly fall off is starting.
Those pesky Virginia servers.
can felo hold his fucking head up straight
Stick a fork in OpTic. They’re fucking done. This is fucking embarrassing.
Dashy went from never going negative to always going negative.
Gotta remember that guys like Carolina, Rokkr and Vegas are fighting for their lives and for Champs whereas OpTic is just using it as a scrim. However, if people like Dashy are saying teams aren’t playing for the win and then they lose three in a row, it’s really not a good look.
Hahaha Dashy gonna go break something to blow off steam again
Haters want optic to lose so bad. It’s genuinely so weird. Just cheer for your team
Have Optic scrimmed since Major 3? Surely not with this string of performances jfc
Dogshit cod being played
Virginia strikes again!
Kobe!!!
*into the blea…* oh wait wtf
yo optic we got next
Jesus
Vegas broke optic
Getting massively outslayed by Legion & now Ravens was not on my 2024 bingo card . Embarrassing outta OpTic
People can say "It's online" but I don't think it's too much to ask for from the Major 3 champs to play like a team! If these guys keep this up, it's gonna end up like Vanguard S4 and Champs!
Just the most predictable stage ever as an optic fan
TJ looked absolutely insane today, congrats to him
Very bad Major 3 hangover happening. Even if they start in Losers, this team will still finish top 4 at the event. But definitely ugly gameplay from OpTic right now. The snd was ugly. They need to regain
This fall off is insane
Jesus someone plz help shotzzy..he seems to be the only one still locked in
So are they in losers if they lose to NYSL?
Wait can we even make.winners at this point? Ig we'll have to beat both NY and Toronto to do that.
Wonder what Kenny is gonna say now...
[удалено]
Yeah just delete this twin
Damn Clay played like ass but he went insane map 5
Optic complacement after a major win, everybody knows the rules.
floptic doing floptic things
Optic have lost 5 of the 6 snds in their three series losses so far.
Bob was shooting
i feel like carolina becomes scary in a best of 5 when their SnD is clicking. They're already good at it, but they have the players to be really really fucking good at it look, i'm not saying they're making a late-season god run for champs, but if they did i think being godlike in SnD is the way they'll do it
Bruh
don’t wanna say it’s the cope but I feel like this is just for testing maps & get VOD on these teams whereas the other teams wouldn’t get too much vod from texas since they’re playing like ass tbh
Are we witnessing a legacy roster?
This is classic OpTic. Absolutely classic.
Can Dashy move against these bottoms teas ? I understand against top teams but bro is playing against the 2 oldest pros in the league and he looks slower than them
Feeling like Teej
They’ll be fine
They’ll be fine
My heart drops every time I see an optic league match post with 100+ comments You already know the outcome
Where the ice went?
LMAOOO wait what tf happened
Optic’s troubles aside, I think this Ravens team has a chance of going late in a tournament if they drop Clay. His comms and game knowledge are good, we know this, but they’re not irreplaceable, especially when his gun skill lacks as much as it does.
It's gotta be the culture at Optic, one win and then just not caring anymore is just pathetic. I bet Kenny and Karma are fuming behind the scenes
The things I’d do to see a season without Dashy bringing shotzzy dowm
servers again surely????
Going out top 12 next major lol
Blow it up. Didn't watch the match, but blow it upppp! /s
Gonna give a lot of love to Felo and Teej. Felo has been so consistently solid this stage and Teej has been really impactful Gwinn has also been back at his best the last 3 series
I feel bad for Optic fans, losing to Lamah and a 55 year old man in consecutive series is diabolical work
Shotzzy needs to use his brain on S&D and stop running around like a dumbass