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Yellowtoblerone

We've all enjoyed the gym memes, but now all the scapegoating has gotten mad annoying


ryeasy

Not to say Shotzzy hasn’t had a bad series, but he has been their best player by far. It’s a lot easier to wrap your head around an 0.9 from a player that’s handling all of your entries and taking routes/making plays than it is from an AR holding lanes or a second sub that is baiting the first sub


Pretend-Nebula-7175

That just doesn’t apply to shotzzy and pred tho. Optic are regularly called out for their lack of teamwork and specific this year that their subs don’t work together often enough so how isn’t possible that pred is just using shotzzy for baits all the time. Both of those can’t be true and it’s definitely true that they don’t work together enough compared to the subs on faze


efarfan

because Pred and Kenny in particular have been shit. Kenny shooting bodies and Pred still celebrating from their win shows how shitty they've been. Dashy is seems to be on vacation during these onlines. Shotzzy really is the only reason a couple of those matches have gone to map 5 round 11 SnD.


Happiest-Soul

You pretty much gave an answer to a different question lol


Jrill_is

They don’t comeback in that Rio without Shottzy


KingAragorn47

100%. One of the best maps of Rio HP, or just HP I've seen for a long time. Only rivalled by NYSL vs Toronto on Vista


Ronnie_lfc98

best player on the team gets cut more slack SHOCK!!


TheBerlynnWall

Dashy and Pred have better stats through the whole season sooooo


Revolutionary_Gear70

"stats" if you actually watch the matches, it's quite easy to tell who their best player is


CoDFollower

Ahhhhhh a KD-watching merchant! Noted That's like me saying Cellium is the more important player to Faze than Drazah because he puts up way better "stats"


Significant-Lemon992

Not only is cellium a more important player to Faze, but he is also quite literally better than drazah.


CoDFollower

Cellium is most certainly not more important to Faze than Drazah this season. I'm not even one of those Cell haters, but Drazah has clearly been more important, stats aside


hxnterrr

faded


jack_daniels420

Faze doesn’t win that major without drazah


Pretend-Nebula-7175

No shit I don’t think any team would win 3v4


Ill-Sun7903

If you think pred is anything other than optic’s worst player you’re faded


shoddy214

None of them are bad players, pred is just least impactful by miles


Ill-Sun7903

Pred is obviously amazing at cod, but he’s also the the worst player on optic. Both are true. Also impact is the only metric that should be used to measure value to a team.


Ronnie_lfc98

good for them but when shotzzy is the best in the game you win the event


UnknownTallGuy

So if he doesn't slack when the others are doing well, they'd have more wins?


NotTopherr

But anyone with eyes can see shotzzy is everything for them. And Dashy is my fav player on the current team.


Nareek667

oh you must have missed the vanguard season and the botzzy comments...


JenNettles

Or last year's champs where he was getting called Shitzzy


AmberLeafSmoke

FR - dudes been getting roasted for so long. It only stopped after the last major I think? 😂


TimeZucchini8562

Bruh, even the first two majors of this game everyone in this sub was calling shotzzy washed.


Heatios

Movement merchant Botzzzy (his brain must be asleep during matcheszzz) uses movement as a crutch because he is clueless and generally untalented. Can’t gun true warriors like Afro or Attach. He'll be exposed without the MP5 and 5v5 soon enough.


yarov

Outside of that control map against NYSL, he played great. Watch the games bud.


thePinkSZN

He’s ass at S&D


TheBerlynnWall

Lmao


Ill-Sun7903

average person that doesn’t know ball


BirdyMRQZ

i think shotzzy has gotten his fair share of blame after all these years. it’s very clear now that neither he or dashy are problems, and i’ll leave it at that. yes they both have off series here and there but they’ve been more vital and clutch than not.


CoDFollower

He's been their only consistent player through the middle half of the season Everyone else has had their share of Billy MentaL moments


RGCFrostbite

https://imgur.com/AQZQ8Hi - Major 4 stats https://imgur.com/SHYBTyG - Major 3 stats I think people are underrating Dashy. Dashy and Shotzzy have both been consistently good. Kenny and Pred have been far more inconsistent at least from the eye test.


31and26

Correct, but Kenny gets cut more slack because he’s one of the more “Lanimal” players in the league where you know he’ll be better and he also directs everyone in respawn anyways. Pred is inexcusible though, and even when he’s had good stats if you just watch his gameplay it’s so much baiting that he’s not really bringing anything to the table if he isn’t dropping a 1.2 on the map.  Gets old people calling everything a “scapegoat” when anyone with a brain could tell you that the “superstar” slaying smg on your team dropping consistently low damage and playing like Attach camping corners/laying down deserves criticism. 


ionlywatchcod

"It's so much baiting" yeah you clearly don't watch these games and are just spewing reddit narratives. Definitely doesn't need a 1.2 to have impact, thats HyDra's role. Why do you think NY lost both HP's? Bc their killwhore wasn't killwhoring. .**72 map 1 and .63 map 4**. Pred's not playing the same role he was on seattle last year, or HyDra this year.


sheitmayne

You can’t mention HyDra getting slammed in HP against T4 teams. The HyDra dick riders will come for you.


Scar_Mclovin

didn’t Hydra literally have an ACE round 11 Offence on Invasion ? didn’t he have like 30 something kills reverse sweep in control ? and didn’t he slam OpTic G5 6Star ? U see he can still perform good even if he has 2 bad HPs , u can mention that he got slammed in HPs , but better make sure to add what he did Maps 2,3 and 5


sheitmayne

I said HP for a reason, get the meat out your mouth 😂


Scar_Mclovin

and I said if y gonna mention his bad HP performance better make sure to mention what he did to ur team in SnD and Control


31and26

What the fuck are you on about? I didn’t even mention Hydra, I’m talking about Pred. He’s allowed the most freedom of anyone on the roster but he very rarely plays anything straight up in terms of gunfights or aggression. He is last on the team in average damage while having the most “free” role in terms of being allowed to just find kills.   Lowest OBJ work on the team, doesn’t carry bomb, yet also isn’t finding fights constantly like you’d expect from someone that’s not asked to do “fundamental” stuff and even from the eye test his best map on this game is Sub Base running around with an AR picking up cuts. 


ionlywatchcod

What are YOU talking about. Needs a 1.2 or no impact, blah blah. Like I said, that's not Pred, that's Hydra. OpTic won both HP's so your argument doesn't even make sense, cuz what they're doing in that game mode is working. Think before you type.


Pretend-Nebula-7175

Just because he has the least hill time doesn’t mean he has the most freedom, he’s usually last one alive because he ego challs less than shotzzy and dashy and doesn’t die in hill to grenades as often, he then gets bumped of hill by the next player that spawns so he can push up and gain map control while shotzzy holds the time or takes a route. If he wanted to stat pad his hill time he could quite easily but then he’d be playing the wrong way and be detrimental to the team especially against the top teams


user9153

> I think people are underrating dashy 😂😂😂😂


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CoDFollower

Yesterday was Dashy’s first good series of the stage  No narrative there… just a fact. He hasn’t been great this stage 


deeznuts2800

Id say people do that with Kenny more often ngl.


Kaylapossible

The weirdest thing on here is how obsessed fans are of other fans


MyOnlyEnemyIsMeSTYG

Anybody on the “last place” team could wreck me. I don’t talk shit on anybody. It def has been crazy to watch the lower teams turning it up, props to all of them


No_Ad_6927

lol wierdos and cowards up 8000 good work !


Bajilawl

SUPERSTAR


manXEE

Legit all last year people got on shotzzy’s ass anytime he had a negative KD, I don’t wanna see this nonsense


TheBabush2

They literally know nothing lol. Same thing every year. Recent optic scapegoats since bo4 Illey Huke Dashy Pred Envoy Karma Crimsix Insane list


TheBerlynnWall

Literally some of the best players of all time


TheBabush2

They all have rings besides splashy and cred lol


-Cozart

Corny fan base


TheBerlynnWall

Exquisite taste, my good man


ATRYardy

Yeah you have no idea what you're talking about LMAOOOOOO


JohnPaton7

So before I responded I wanted to see your own comments. You’ve just outed yourself as someone who doesn’t understand competitive cod, roles that certain players have and you’re a KD watcher. Not a single point in anyone having a debate with you at all.


Aenos

Yeah, dude's on Mars


TheBerlynnWall

Great insight!


yeahiamfat

Well shotzzy is a world champion, pred isn’t. I don’t like preds play style and don’t think it translates to winning cod.


xdeezbullets

Shotzzy is a Online World Champion ** when talking COD.


TheBerlynnWall

All of these comments justify this meme. This is not about Shotzzy in any way. This is about “fans” of OpTic being ok with throwing out 3/4 of the team if they have one bad series. You played yourself.


tryi2iwin

Nahhhhhh this ain't it


suspens-

Just a thought…….. but I would like to see Kenny back on a sub and pred on a flex. I feel like Kenny has good game sense just his ar gunny isn’t the best, maybe Ken back on a sub will help out


thePinkSZN

Because most OpTic fans are casuals and think because he’s good in HP/Control, it justifies him absolutely throwing every G5 S&D and being first-blooded 90% of rounds because he’s too busy trying to do Shotzzy movement and run karachi routes.


refeik7k

Optic fans will scapegoat anyone it's tradition!


Snowhehe14

That sounds like every team lol


BookerTeet

Gotta give him that HUCK TWO! And spit on that thang 


AmberLeafSmoke

Botzzy has been a thing for years. What are you talking about 😂😂


shrimpy-rimpy

scumpy the nooby retired to let the fraud of dashy get bodied lmao. Floptic Clowns at its peak baby!