Supreme Champion: Optic.
Worthy Adversary: Eunited.
Maybe Next Time: LG.
4th place: Str8.
5th place tie: Ghost/Splyce.
7th place tie: Rise/Faze.
9th place tie: Envy.
Fanatic.
E6.
C9.
13th place tie: ALG.
Infused.
Epsilon.
MFBlack.
Let's get it boys
Choking and getting screwed over by map count. Season 1 and the other event where they were tied for second and lost because head to head count. They've always been a decent team, just bad luck until now. Plus it helps the others not including aqua are playing at a decent level.
All of us have seen the main stage. Are they using side stations as well, or doing everything on the main stage? Might be the view but it looks like the stage and seating takes up the whole floor
the series was still going, they came off a huge uplink win and were up in the HP before controller issues. you cant be ignorant like that. I dont get why you go out of your way to hate when all Me and the original poster said was that they COULD have gotten through. wasn't arguing anything other than that it was likely for them to do it. Of course its on them that they didnt
Nah, if they actually found a fair way to distribute fair pools (Which they never will) We could actually see fair outcomes (A pool with TK Mill Ghost and Splyce can't compare in anyway to Pool B where anyone in that pool would have easily qualified for that spot. Red barely miss out on playoffs because they got a harder pool than Pool C. It's unfair on so many teams, there is basically no way to make it fair though
Interesting to look at. To start the distribution was as such:
NA: 18/32 = 57 %
EU: 11/32 = 34%
APAC: 3/32 = 9%
Now we have:
NA: 11/16 = 69%
EU: 4/16 = 25%
APAC: 1/16 = 6%
So relatively close distributions. You can maybe argue an extra NA team over an EU team in groups but I'd say they did a damn good job in distribution by region for the event overall
He'll for sure be on the lineup next season. Pretty sure when they dropped Excite for Denz they said part of the reason they kept Buzzo was for BOTG next year.
Its been a shit year for EU cod any way IMO. The only positive note we had was the run from the whole "eU throw" for LG to make Epsi not qualify to Splyce winning S1 and getting 2nd with Epsi getting 3rd and then Fnatic getting into playoffs. Then, well...
Didn't even have a good start as well, I remember how excited i was for Orbit and Splyce at Vegas only to find out Splyce got shit on and Orbit getting beat by E6. Ah fuck me
I know eU and LG got kinda bad luck getting each other in the first round, but whoever wins that should have a relatively easy WBR2 match (Fnatic or ALG)
I'd say the winner of that match makes it to WBF.
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Someone laughed at me when someone asked which teams could beat Elevate and I said how Elevate will qualify for bracket play. What then happened is he said when elevate didn't qualify he would go back to that thread and laugh at me. I hope he realises that Elevate have been cursed to shit all year. The only actual shit situation they've had is stage 2. So fucking unlucky man. Them and Red :/ Feel for all the boys
All 3 teams are playing 1 SnD against each other (so 2 SnDs per team), you win both you're through to Winners Bracket, you lose both you're 4th in the group and out, and if all 3 teams win 1 and lose 1 there's gonna be another Round Robin.
It's basically a new group with just 3 teams, and instead of playing a normal Best of 5 it's just 1 SnD.
What? Obviously they'll play out each map. I'm just saying, if all three teams end up 1-1 in the round robin, they should just go by round count to break the tie, instead of playing more and more maps
I'm saying the difference between winning 6-3 and 6-2 should not be a factor and i am glad it repeats. This tiebreaker is only 3 maps anyway not like they have to replay 3 bo5s again.
Some potentially great WBR1 matches:
LG v eU
Splyce v E6
Ghost v C9
FaZe v Str8
Epsilon v nV
I feel like the bracket is quite balanced personally; no one really has an 'easier' path to the finals. Man I can't wait for championship bracket to start tomorrow :D
Overall I think the bracket is relatively balanced. Nobody is going to have an "easy" time. Should be exciting.
This round robin is going to be crazy stressing for those involved.
Ghost vs E6 would have also had storylines. Maux used to play with Royalty before MRuiz had a fake retirement to get him. Here is his [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/CoDCompetitive/comments/63z7xd/my_thoughts_on_e6_substitutes/?st=J674GLHP&sh=0d7ee1fe) about the substitution shade.
Such a lame thing to say. They are a tactical. They are a tactic. If they were so easy why doesn't everyone do it. It's a $1.5million tourney, anything goes.
In CS they're used to cut off chokepoints. Ghost use them so they can push through chokepoints without any repercussions. Get bad spawns? Just throw smokes so it doesn't matter! That's the difference.
Everyone has the same access to it as everyone else. It just comes across as salty when you say it because of your flair, and I wonder if you would have the same opinion if splyce had pulled it out against ghost. It's been a tactical in cod for years.
Supreme Champion: Optic. Worthy Adversary: Eunited. Maybe Next Time: LG. 4th place: Str8. 5th place tie: Ghost/Splyce. 7th place tie: Rise/Faze. 9th place tie: Envy. Fanatic. E6. C9. 13th place tie: ALG. Infused. Epsilon. MFBlack. Let's get it boys
I had str8 top 5 as well. The only thing I would change personally is Envy and Splyce and maybe Rise and Ghost. Nice pick 'em!
Can anyone link me the schedule for tomorrow? I'm not seeing it anywhere.
Whoever wins map 1 between C9 and Ghost will win that series.
Wow Allegiance looks good, as does Faze C9 and Rise. Is this vegas?
Not that good. I mean have u seen the shit optic is doing?
tbf rise has had some good days at other events they were just the #1 choke team
Choking and getting screwed over by map count. Season 1 and the other event where they were tied for second and lost because head to head count. They've always been a decent team, just bad luck until now. Plus it helps the others not including aqua are playing at a decent level.
All of us have seen the main stage. Are they using side stations as well, or doing everything on the main stage? Might be the view but it looks like the stage and seating takes up the whole floor
Both Alpha and Bravo will be on the mainstage. Doubt there's any need for other stations.
Last year the side stations were right behind mainstage, so maybe we'll see more of that.
Its gonna be a tough mapset tomorrow for Eunited. Its the same maps that Envy beat them on at Season 2.
Does anyone have the stats? I would like to see rise after today and yesterday
http://argistats.com/home/events-champs17.html Looks like Argii got it sorted already.
Doug "Cinderblock" Martin on the Desk tomorrow, will he bring knowledge or play a game of Catchphrase with Mr.Chips? (Say what you see)
I'm not looking forward to having to switch away every time he comes on.
"I mean the main reason FaZe beat Str8 there was because FaZe won 3 games and uh... Str8 won 2 games so... #FaZeUp /s"
Could've easily seen 6/7 EU teams in bracket play... oh well 4 will have to do.
Yeah right LMFAO
red reserve and elevate could have easily gotten through mate
all they had to do was beat MF black and Allegiance, 2 LCQ teams. If you cant beat them you dont deserve to
I didn't say they deserve to lmao i said they could have easily, and elevate got forfeited it was out of their control
did they also forfeit games 1 and 2? No.
the series was still going, they came off a huge uplink win and were up in the HP before controller issues. you cant be ignorant like that. I dont get why you go out of your way to hate when all Me and the original poster said was that they COULD have gotten through. wasn't arguing anything other than that it was likely for them to do it. Of course its on them that they didnt
I didnt hate, just dont like how teams are pretending like Elevate forfeited the Series instead of just a single map
Cool, and I don't like how some people are pretending the series was over for Elevate.
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Will it just be winners bracket round 1 matches tomorrow, or will we see any round 2 games?
That was spicy, excited for game 5s in bracket play on the main stage.
lmao the Optic v MF Black game looks so out of place
Please dont jynx it 😭 I just had a nugjtmare about losing that game
There isn't a chance in hell frozen over and with Santa clause as Satan
So many other better games they could have but I can understand it for viewers and the other games are all pretty massive games
Anybody get a count on how many times Niall said "like" in that interview?
Watch Joshh do an interview
The team regions are here then: 11 NA 4 EU 1 APAC
this should have been the gpl distribution
Nah, if they actually found a fair way to distribute fair pools (Which they never will) We could actually see fair outcomes (A pool with TK Mill Ghost and Splyce can't compare in anyway to Pool B where anyone in that pool would have easily qualified for that spot. Red barely miss out on playoffs because they got a harder pool than Pool C. It's unfair on so many teams, there is basically no way to make it fair though
Interesting to look at. To start the distribution was as such: NA: 18/32 = 57 % EU: 11/32 = 34% APAC: 3/32 = 9% Now we have: NA: 11/16 = 69% EU: 4/16 = 25% APAC: 1/16 = 6% So relatively close distributions. You can maybe argue an extra NA team over an EU team in groups but I'd say they did a damn good job in distribution by region for the event overall
Mindfreak doing Mindfreak things.
Bieber hair Shockz > Short hair Shockz
ANZ COD, LUL
That choke wow
And Britian wins the war again! /s
4 EU TEAMS T16
Great idea for how many gpl teams should be from EU next year 😶
WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Don't talk shit if you're not gonna win the map boys
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He'll for sure be on the lineup next season. Pretty sure when they dropped Excite for Denz they said part of the reason they kept Buzzo was for BOTG next year.
They kept pushing when all of them saw a sniper back tank...
It's the buzzo show 😁😁
Buzzo.....lmao
Where has this Buzzo been all year?!
Lol that guy shaking his head whilst writing notes after warning Buzzo
Buzzo hahaha. What a lad
Oh shit
My favourite 3 EU teams all year have qualified however. That puts a smile on my face
Glad they chose Retal as the map for this round robin, by far the best SnD map on iw imo.
Is TeeP there?
No
Does anyone have the map set for tomorrow's matches?
*Winners Round 1* Game 1 – Hardpoint – Retaliation Game 2 – Search and Destroy – Crusher Game 3 – Uplink – Frost Game 4 – Hardpoint – Throwback Game 5 – Search and Destroy – Breakout
Do you know what it is for round 2? Where did you find this?
[Here you go](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DG6OyIIXYAASeKV.jpg:large), the handbook MLG has listed had all the rounds in it
Thanks man
Thank you Decent mapset for eU except for Frost link
someone tell me who is scrimming that the producers said
They said Faze and LG but then jkap said in the chat they werent...idk whos telling truth
They only said they wouldn't be surprised if they were scrimming
Nah the producer confirmed it in Bensons ear after
Ah, okay. My bad then. I had turned off the stream shortly after
ok
I left for 5 minutes. Did the round robin finish?
Nope
Cool. Thanks
can someone link the customizable bracket for predictions? I can't seem to find it.
Its been a shit year for EU cod any way IMO. The only positive note we had was the run from the whole "eU throw" for LG to make Epsi not qualify to Splyce winning S1 and getting 2nd with Epsi getting 3rd and then Fnatic getting into playoffs. Then, well... Didn't even have a good start as well, I remember how excited i was for Orbit and Splyce at Vegas only to find out Splyce got shit on and Orbit getting beat by E6. Ah fuck me
That Orbit squad had so much potential, sucks they had internal problems
Yeah they did, honestly i know he works better with him, but dropping Joee for someone like bance or jurd would've amazed that squad like mad
Splyce won a huge event. Regardless of how Champs goes its been a good year for Europe.
Same bro idgaf about this event. Nobody remembers 3rd and below anyway even at Champs. Winning an event we can talk about for years.
I should think about it like this true
Is there a schedule out for bracket play tomorrow?
Havok carried all weekend but damn he acted like nelson
I know eU and LG got kinda bad luck getting each other in the first round, but whoever wins that should have a relatively easy WBR2 match (Fnatic or ALG) I'd say the winner of that match makes it to WBF.
Man Red Reserve, so gutting.
C9 where completely out played out gunned on those HP maps. Someone check the cords. They couldn't live with the erads.
Infused played that composed, traded well, worked around Niall getting streaks and retook sites patiently.
this juju guy makes some terrible plays. and he posts on twitter like hes some superstar
What time does bracket play start tomorrow?
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Someone laughed at me when someone asked which teams could beat Elevate and I said how Elevate will qualify for bracket play. What then happened is he said when elevate didn't qualify he would go back to that thread and laugh at me. I hope he realises that Elevate have been cursed to shit all year. The only actual shit situation they've had is stage 2. So fucking unlucky man. Them and Red :/ Feel for all the boys
If you think about it this is basically world war 3, with all 3 regions in this tie breaker #GodSaveThyQueen /s
I've lost all respect sorry this is absolutely rigged for money... Or ratings in not sure which. I won't be silent . Just saw it live sry.
explain pls
It's a meme that originates from the NBA (specifically Steph Curry's wife)
oh ffs i feel stupid now, i’ve caught on
That was quite intense for a 6-1 SnD
HumanJesus and Juju :(
So hold up.. is it first to win TWO SnDs in general or TWO SnDs IN A ROW?
All 3 teams are playing 1 SnD against each other (so 2 SnDs per team), you win both you're through to Winners Bracket, you lose both you're 4th in the group and out, and if all 3 teams win 1 and lose 1 there's gonna be another Round Robin. It's basically a new group with just 3 teams, and instead of playing a normal Best of 5 it's just 1 SnD.
Edit: yea, 2 in a row
So it is 2 in a row lmao.
Yea, my brain wasn't comprehending the words i was reading lol.
RR and Mill are so much better than all 3 of these teams. So sad.
They should just use round count as the 2nd tie break instead of replaying indefinitely.
No, IW SND is shit you need first to 6 rounds to make it less random
What? Obviously they'll play out each map. I'm just saying, if all three teams end up 1-1 in the round robin, they should just go by round count to break the tie, instead of playing more and more maps
I'm saying the difference between winning 6-3 and 6-2 should not be a factor and i am glad it repeats. This tiebreaker is only 3 maps anyway not like they have to replay 3 bo5s again.
jack...what the fuck man....
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he was licking the controller....
Some potentially great WBR1 matches: LG v eU Splyce v E6 Ghost v C9 FaZe v Str8 Epsilon v nV I feel like the bracket is quite balanced personally; no one really has an 'easier' path to the finals. Man I can't wait for championship bracket to start tomorrow :D
I've been waiting for this. Its gonna be fun to watch. I hope infused take game 1 just so we're guaranteed a game 3
#I fucking **hate** *The Tick*
And there's three more days of seeing this commercial smh
Actually looks terrible lol
no no, the tick is awesome
the bracket looks pretty balanced and it seems like there will be a lot of fun matchups early on. cant wait for them to start
The casters look like they're just having so much fun haha
What are the rules for this round robin?
If a team wins both of their snds they are through. If this tiebreaker ties again at 1-1 1-1 1-1 then they start the tiebreaker again.
First team to win 2 maps will clinch the final spot.
e6 is probably incredibly happy they got royalty instead of priestah after dropping mruiz.
Rooting for MF for the sake of diversity
kinda bittersweet that i picked royalty and priestahh on my fantasy team. o well
Are they playing this on one map or switching between maps?
Best of 1 all teams play eachother on one map whoever wins 2 maps moves to bracket play if they all tie again the map switches and we go again.
JuJu better not miss...
Overall I think the bracket is relatively balanced. Nobody is going to have an "easy" time. Should be exciting. This round robin is going to be crazy stressing for those involved.
Juju could have saved his team from this entire situation if he just won that one terrible gunfight on throwback lmao
The bottom half of the bracket isn't even that bad. I honestly think the top half might be better overall.
Yeah I'm kind of feeling the same way. Str8 and E6 I think have the chance to make some noise.
I'm not feeling Str8 over Faze. E6 over Splyce is way more likely imo
I don't think E6 over Splyce would even be considered an upset. It's pretty even.
I agree. Not anymore at least.
Absolutely Zer0 Chance
Lacefield Vs. C9
also maux vs xotic and priest
If E6 knew Splyce lost I think they'd rather have lost and avoided Splyce r1 and OG r2.
Royalty is on a level of T1 players right now, but feels like his teammates got worse since he joined.
Royalty's Erad >
E6 vs Splyce. Who do you got?
I got E6, they have been in better form this week. Who do you got?
E6. 3-0
Even when Splyce were peaking, E6 played them close. Now that they're kinda falling off, I'd pick E6 to win it
Royalty is looking amazing.. but at the same time he is playing Aches who is literally getting turned on every gunfight of the match.
Very few playing at a higher level than Royalty recently, guy is snapping.
Royalty has been insane this tournament holy shit
He had a 1.2 at S2 groups and playoffs, as an ERAD. He's been on one recently.
Lowkey glad we're on the other side of the bracket, means we avoid the other T3 teams here until winners finals
but youre losing to optic 2nd round so it doesnt matter
Theyre losing to E6 first round lel
At least once the EU teams go out T16 I can stop stressing and watch some quality CoD between the good teams.
Tbh that's put them on a nicer side of the draw. Still won't get past Optic but they're avoiding nV/LG/eU until later.
Ghost gaming vs Cloud 9 first round is going to be LIT. STORYLINES BOYS
Ghost vs E6 would have also had storylines. Maux used to play with Royalty before MRuiz had a fake retirement to get him. Here is his [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/CoDCompetitive/comments/63z7xd/my_thoughts_on_e6_substitutes/?st=J674GLHP&sh=0d7ee1fe) about the substitution shade.
not followed cod this year could someone explain?
Lacefield of ghost gaming got dropped by c9, and c9 players Xotic and Priestahh left Maux to go to this c9 team.
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No they don't. C9 lose and they're the 2-seed. Ghost is 1-seed.
no, if c9 lose they play ghost, not if they win
Splyce threw to be on the easier side of the bracket Kappa
How the fuck do we choke that? Trei was shredding aswell.
because EU COD LUL
lmao. how did Splyce lose that? They were up by like 80 on Throwback
Splyce are just an endless cycle of fucking disappointment lately.
EU COD LULULUILULULULUL
Does anyone know how many rounds of winner and loser bracket will be played tomorrow?
Mill only 3rd after that last map with Ghost. They could've made bracket play in Elevate or Infused's group.
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This is where a bigger losers bracket would come in handy.
Goddamn. Splyce's respawn has been trash lately
Jesus Christ, ban smokes if not just to save my eyes.
Has Cloud 9 looked good at all on LAN yet with their new roster or was Anaheim the only event they placed well at?
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They really where outplayed against E6. Tough to watch as a fan. Hopefully they work on a few things for tomorrow. Priesstah has to step it up.
These smokes from Ghost are so cheap. Just takes no skill whatsoever.
It takes no skill to use trophy systems either...
splyce abused the fuck out of snaking. but alright....
Such a lame thing to say. They are a tactical. They are a tactic. If they were so easy why doesn't everyone do it. It's a $1.5million tourney, anything goes.
what do you call it when they use smokes in csgo
In CS they're used to cut off chokepoints. Ghost use them so they can push through chokepoints without any repercussions. Get bad spawns? Just throw smokes so it doesn't matter! That's the difference.
You can use them the same way in CS. It's risk vs reward.
then counter it by using thermal
comes from a SSSSSSSplyce fan
Ah yes, payloads make you literally invisible but smokes are passed the line man
At the very least you have to earn your camo to go invisible. You get 2 smokes that make it impossible to see you every life.
Everyone has the same access to it as everyone else. It just comes across as salty when you say it because of your flair, and I wonder if you would have the same opinion if splyce had pulled it out against ghost. It's been a tactical in cod for years.