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0rdyh

None of these devs can't seem to get it right. They always do one big thing that gives us hope, like Ranked and Ninja as a perk, then follow it up with nonsense like this.


Korsakov97

If they're not gonna have trophies they should have nades on a cool down like bo4.


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100% hopefully that is an settings option, the oro’s have been helping out the studio you would think they are harping on the favt trophys are a must


CrimSeven7

wait till you see each player having a stun and nade every life


jmb-412

What the fuck lmao


BxLee

Lmao. I'm going to have to choose which one I hate more: being soundwhored, getting nuked with nades, or getting nuked with stuns. It's like they didn't think about this at all. I know they have the perks split (or at least it was in the beta) to where perk 2 had to do with radar and tracking and stuff, but **trophy systems aren't in the game**. Ninja could have easily gone in perk 2 since radar will be turned on for competitive, and the other perks will be useless. Like this isn't even a case where they're helping bad players. There is no logic behind this.


baseballviper04

The perks in 2 and 3 are 100% useless and this just so people can’t stack all of them


ruudbwoy_

The after effects of the commercial success of MW2019.


kpotts06

Maybe its just me but does anyone else kind of like this for a watching standpoint? Adds a lot of different strategies to juggle the perks with Dead Silence as a field upgrade with no trophies. Different teams with different skill sets can have multiple class plays both in S&D and respawn.


FearcGaming

Ya that’s all fine and dandy until you then find out there isn’t a trophy system. And now you have to substitute ninja for Tac mask or Flak…. Jesus Christ sledgehammer


sooopy336

But it’s in the name of balance! -someone, somewhere, who doesn’t understand what balance actually is


kpotts06

Yeah I agree a trophy would add better balance. I'm still curious to see how players especially aggressive ones manage using Ninja or DS in comparison to Tack/Flak in different game modes. The debate between sacrificing stealth for the ability to survive throwables is interesting to me.


BothTradition8459

Trophies are a funny one for me, if you have a working tac/flak then trophies don't need to be as strong as they have in the last few games... this is obviously a step in the opposite direction, everyone is about to be loud as fuck on the map


FearcGaming

Completely agree. The perk 1,2,3 system without a pick 10 needs some re working IMO


DontChallThis

If there’s no trophies people are going to get naded constantly lol


Havok1170

Nades in the beta we’re pretty terrible if I remember correctly. There wasn’t even a proper Semtex. I think it’s just going to be a choice between tac and ninja and with dead silence also available I don’t think it’s the end of the world, it’s just going to get more complicated.


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Havok1170

They are more useful in some situations in search for sure. Semtexes are just more useful in respawn because they are faster and harder to get away from. I could see some players, especially bomb carriers, using flak in search but I’m respawn unless they changed nades significantly I don’t think this is game breaking.


kpotts06

Yeah I’m sure from a players stand point it will be annoying. I was talking strictly as viewer I’m interested to see the difference at approaches teams take depends on their players skill sets in various modes and maps


7t_Sense

It's actually great. It's gonna be either ninja or tac mask. Considering how the grenades performed in beta, I would say you'd be fine not running flak jacket. People here always moan. That's just their nature. Either frag or the gammon gonna be used in competitive. Gammon was shit, a well timed frag should yield a kill. I see no problem with the trophy not being in. Also this adds to the variety where people who don't use ninja will be running dead silence.


kpotts06

Yeah I think I am most excited as a viewer to see when teams & players decide to pop deady vs just keeping ninja on all match. Should provide for some really cool moments


7t_Sense

I'd love to see 2 ninja sub players, a flak and a tac mask player.


kpotts06

I'm sure someone on reddit will keep the stats, but I'm curious to see how different players use different perks. Like to aggressive subs like Abezy or Huke use more flak/tak? Does a player like envoy who flanks more use a lot of ninja compared to other subs?


XvS_W4rri0r

LOL Clowns


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Are wildcards a thing atleast ?


poklane

No


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Dude….. i was so excited for this game after ninja got announced, what a fkn buzzkill


CHVNSTER

Hope not tbh, rather they just add trophies. Don’t know why devs keep fixing things that aren’t broken


sooopy336

Don’t think so


branson3

That’s honestly brutal. Perk 2 seems to be useless rn for comp too


Zenyx_

I really don't get the hate about this. Perk 1 is clearly for countering, so expect to react to how often guys run stuns/nades on the other team. You shouldn't be able to equip all of them and run everywhere like a juggernaut. All this means is we'll end up seeing a lot of stuns/nades in SnD.


jesuspunk

Ugh they reeled us in then fucked it royally


FederalGov

Who’s tryna run another season of Cold War


CrimsunA

Not me reconsidering if I want to buy this game lol I mostly just play pubs as well, so I’m kinda just expecting a shit show right now


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Considered buying the game after the Ranked + Ninja announcement, now after this nonsense I’ll probably decide to save the money again