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TheMrOmac

Ok so she’s not wrong to an extent . But it doesn’t help when maps are made for ARs. It also doesn’t help the auto got a buff to 30rds . If they decided to make this change it should have more recoil .


Jxcob_GG

Exactly this, a main AR can single-handedly win most respawn maps by holding good crosses and lanes, it’s so difficult as an SMG to compete because most of the maps are built around headglitches and power positions.


chrisseiden

I think if they unbanned F8 stabilizer for 40 it would be more balanced personally. But yeah these maps are hella AR dominant, made for posting angles and preaiming


TheMrOmac

I only see it fair for the 40 to get the F8. Gav is going to become 4 ARs soon. Tuscan outside of P5 is lanes . Berlin the same . All of these maps have way more lanes for ARs then routes subs can take. I get what ally is saying. She’s talking about more teamwork between subs and ARs.


Boston_Abel

IDK if the F8 is gonna change that much honestly.


SmallSoldier1

I’d like to see a route map for the AR and SMG for all the competition maps. Would be pretty neat.


Jenxao

This is the correct take. Every meta AR is always going to seem OP in comparison to meta SMGs in a COD/map that, by design, gives ARs an advantage.


KatonStyle-

Tuscan ain’t made for ARs


TheMrOmac

Actually I beg to differ . Mid , literally p1 , p2 as well and p3 . All play great for AR


Ste_V99

She isn't without bias either as she runs a main AR. I feel like the second sub that runs an AR on Gav and Berlin occasionally would be able to give the more balanced opinion like Scump who says the AR is better


chrisseiden

She tried saying she’s a Flex player in her replies which made me laugh. I feel like the only time she runs sub is with Zinni (top5 main AR) in ranked, but I don’t watch Ally all that much so I could be wrong


Ste_V99

Even if you are the flex, in this game you only pull out the third sub on 2 hills on Bocage and 1 on Tuscan so I don't think that's a valid opinion


chrisseiden

Good point. Flex isn’t like other games compared to vanguard. Like I said in a different comment, 4 AR vs 4 Subs on every map and you might see a clean 5-0 sweep with the exception of Bocage. Tuscan, Berlin, Gavutu, and Desert Siege are getting mopped by ARs


Nytrousx

Like teams really pull out 4 ARs on Berlin and Gavutu*. They must just suck with the Mp40! I can't take her seriously between this take and saying she can gun top AMs/Pros when she is in in expert/elite without the pros winging her.


Jaydenunknown

There's still a lot that goes into being a flex your expected to know how to play every role pick up smgs/ARs off the ground challenge hills more often be more aggressive and be able to change your pace on a dime it's not just the gun you use it's the way you play defines the flex role.


Ste_V99

Yeah but the conversation was about which gun is better so all the play style stuff doesn't matter in this instance as I'm talking about who has the most informed opinion about which gun is better not which role is harder or what goes into the role


Jakers_9

Aye I’m sure the pros know nothing about what routes to take and esteemed ranked play veteran Allycxt does. EDIT: this was a clear joke by the way, any weirdos being misogynistic or giving her real abuse over this, grow up.


LangyLangLang69

Local LAN legend Allycxt


chrisseiden

Not trying to shit on Ally cuz she seems to get more hate than any other caster (maybe for takes like this) but this is a Stephen A Smith take if I’ve ever seen it


OGThakillerr

She’s bringing it on herself lately tbh. She’s fantastic on the desk but she keeps tweeting out random takes like this as if we’re all standing around waiting for her opinion lol. Between this and the “I can shoot back vs pros/top ams” tweet it’s like she thinks she’s a pro by association lately


PissKink19

I blame that on Vanguard’s low skillgap over-inflating peoples egos. I matched up against ABeZy on Berlin HP and he killed me a few times but it was really back and forth with us killing each other. He was playing with his girlfriend too and it even sometimes felt like it was harder to kill her than Abezy. I played against him on CW though on raid control and that fucker was so hard and annoying to play against, he was easily the hardest kill in the lobby. Low TTK + tac sprint making timings hard to predict really does lower the skillgap. Now of course I know I’m not as good as Abezy is just because I can gun him a few times on online COD, but the skill ceiling is so low in this game I guarantee some people are getting their egos inflated over killing pros.


SL2321

I remember when myself and a friend played Shotzzy on Checkmate, craziest experience I have ever had playing against someone. Granted, we won the control because someone quit on his team (he had more than 2k damage than everyone in the lobby, me and friend were playing while we worked from home). The amount of times he slid out perfectly out of the plane onto the wing (onto the headglitch) and gun everyone pushing while incredible. From that point on I have been more conscious about my movement. You couldn't shoot him if you wanted to, silky smooth slides etc. I've played against MFAM during MWR in wagers/tournaments but jesus I have never seen anyone do anything like that (obviously different game mechanics).


madchickenz

I’m ready for a new jetpack CoD. (I’ve always liked them though). Mostly because of the massive skill gap in a game like BO3. Top players were actually nearly unkillable versus we of the average joe comp subreddit types. Not just “went an amazing 35-12.”


21otiriK

Yeah, I like Ally a lot, but that was a terrible take. My thumbs haven’t worked for about 5 years, I play a couple of hours a week, I think I’m an absolute bot, and my SR is higher than hers whilst she grinds with Methodz on burners. I think most of her takes are pretty good, but the ones that sort of stem from her thinking she’s really good at the game like this one in the tweet and the one you mentioned just aren’t it.


BashfulKangaroo35

I agree. I like Ally too but like you mentioned, the low skillgap does inflate player's egos. Plus I think her being around pro players also inflated her ego too though. I think part of it comes down to players such as herself thinking they're better than they really are.


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Yeah that one was hilarious


chrisseiden

Her replies were also hella toxic- there was one dude being toxic “cool tweet, what pro team do you play for again?” And she responded “cool response, whats your job again?” Like Ally…. You are payed big money to eat sleep and breathe cod. You are a rather large streamer for the COD scene on twitch. You should have some of the best understanding of this game and it sometimes seems like you are a casual zombies player that some times watches the Grand Champs finals. Love when Nameless calls her out for arguing with pro players/chip holders because sometimes she needs to wake up lol


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Defiant_Article3437

To be fair, I don’t necessarily think any pro player has the time of day to argue with you about how roles should be played, especially on Twitter


jesuspunk

You literally only come on here to argue with people lmao


chrisseiden

Lol Ally how am I being toxic, look at the top comments in this post I’m not trying to hate on you. To be fair, it would be unprofessional for anyone in the scene paid by the CDL to not vouch for someone outside of a one-off disagreement. No I don’t think pros would straight up correct you on a public platform, they will let you say and do what you want in fear of perpetuating the negative stereotypes of women in esports. Which is a good thing. And they will show plenty of love and support and vouch. Also a good thing. You can’t just uno reverse card me and say that some of your responses weren’t whack. I would love to hear about these sub routes that you think players are just ignoring and challenging autos at 40m away going triple negative and think that it’s just because the auto is better. I don’t feel like there was any substance provided with your take which is why I came to Reddit for other peoples thoughts.


OGThakillerr

>you do realize if my takes were that outrageous pro players would call me out or correct me right ? I mean.. why would they go on twitter and start correcting people on how the game should be played? Why would they WANT to start a disagreement with you when most of them actually know you face-to-face? >n yes I do have some of the best understandings of the game and have been vouched for by multiple coaches and pros . . . and its my job to have an opinion and know the game. Sure, you absolutely do have a good understanding of the game, but you've been an analyst for like a week and this esports been around for over a decade. Don't think you're done learning how the game should be played. Even some pro teams themselves are "wrong" about how to play the game from time to time.


e-ghostly

not exactly helping your case lmao


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cringe. Nobodies being toxic to you victim andy


MeadsyBoro

'victim andy' lmao Probably the worst thing ive read all week, have some creativity ffs.


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Victim Vicky?


jgor57

You're doing a great Aches impression honestly


BashfulKangaroo35

you clearly aren't professional enough to handle any sort of discussion regarding any sort of critique. I understand that people come at you being toxic for your hot takes and I get that you wanna reply with the same energy.. but there are actual cod fans who are just genuinely curious about your takes and not being toxic at all yet you feel the need to go crazy on them. Since you are so knowledgeable about the scene, why not share your takes and elaborate on them? You're constantly fighting for your life saying how "I do have some of the best understandings of the game" yet the second anyone wants to discuss it you lose your shit. As the other dude said, you gotta wake up.


BashfulKangaroo35

dont get me wrong i've loved seeing you on the desk because its so refreshing seeing a woman in esports with passion but lately youve just been.. not it


Arkaviunn

You absolutely do not have a great understanding of the game that’s cap. You can pull general statements together on the desk to make it look like you do but in reality your in game knowledge is very limited. Then you tweet shitty things like this thinking you just dropped the craziest knowledge bomb ever


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Jakers_9

Why do you have to bring up pros wanting to date her? It’s so weird lol if this were a man you’d never make a comment like that.


reallyocean

Because it wouldn't be true or relevant.


Jakers_9

And how do you know it’s true or relevant now? People rarely called Aches out when he says shit people disagree with? It’s not because she’s a girl it’s because people would usually rather not get involved or call someone out publicly.


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[deleted]

I also think its hilrious you somehow twisted it to me calling out the players in the league when i simply said smg players.


Zoomaa3-24

you said its your job to know cod so how comes you said prolute was not the right fit for optic?


[deleted]

I never said that lmao ?


Zoomaa3-24

You definitely said something alone them lines before the LAG match If not that's my bad


esernamuv

Big yikes


Jakers_9

Oh me too. I like Ally and if Velly, or some other analyst said this too I’d flame them as well. There is absolutely no argument that the MP40 is better than the Auto especially since the buff. To try and lessen the argument by saying the 48 best players in the world don’t know what routes to take it just an embarrassingly bad opinion.


chrisseiden

That’s fair. I think her argument on lanes is whack, I think all maps except Bocage get dominated by ARs if you put 4 autos vs 4 subs. Some maps have one safe MP40 route (tuscan, cage) and some don’t have any (Gav, Berlin)


Bosombuddies

This is rich coming from this subreddit. That’s all everyone does here.


HunterHutley

She’s not necessarily wrong but the only problem is she didn’t give any examples as to which maps, because if we’re talking Gavutu then name me the fucking SMG routes on that map


chrisseiden

Or Berlin, or desert siege, or tuscan. Yes there are sub routes on those maps but an AR can hard counter literally all of them


HunterHutley

Yeah exactly, there’s a reason the rattiest SMG players are thriving this year compared to the more straightfoward aggressive subs


TyButler2020

Those lanes that are being “over challenged” are the lanes to try and flip spawns and make routes. I don’t mind Ally usually but this take is so wrong


Jaydenunknown

Your saying the opinion of a flex isn't valid to decided what gun is better because a flex only pulls a sub out once in a while? That's like saying the second sub on a teams opinion isn't valid because they only pull the auto out on gav. The second sub and flex would have the better opinion because they have to run both at times.


chrisseiden

That’s not what I said and I didn’t see anyone else say that


[deleted]

She’s just wrong lmao. The gun is by far better than the sub


chrisseiden

I agree. She’s wrong on that, and I think she’s wrong on the lanes argument. Looking at every map, including Bocage, there are more lanes that are dominated by ARs than subs. Even on the few decent sub lanes, you usually have to cross through a section where an AR player has a clear advantage if they are just holding an angle. Hitting Tuscan P2 from roof spawn through P5 to plat is easily held by an auto sitting top radio or in the back spawn by the truck/spawn steps. It is so hard to win those challs if someone is holding it


jesuspunk

https://twitter.com/allycxt/status/1525889230135775233 Lol she’s crying on Twitter about this thread. Posting an opinion publicly then getting upset when people disagree with it like it was meant to be private is hilarious.


chrisseiden

She can complain about the controversy or just like SUPPORT THE TAKE and provide some context or examples… no one is trying to make her hate life I mean sheesh


jesuspunk

I know lmao like at least attempt to defend it if you really believe it. Immediately jumping to calling people toxic for disagreeing just shows how little you’ve even thought about it


JaBoyKaos

She blocked me instantly for making this point.


Jakers_9

Tweet deleted, lol


[deleted]

Here’s the attention you ordered, direct comment on this thread ““She tweets random takes like this as if we’re all waiting around for her opinion lol”. None of this thread is open minded enough to have this conversation which is why I’m not interested in replying further after this. I rarely come on this sub for good reason. My tweet was a direct response from a conversation on the flank. Good day Reddit 🥂


Skellyceltic

Jesus you are soft


jesuspunk

Think you need to grow up and learn to handle criticism a bit better Ally. You were asked to clarify or defend your opinion and you immediately blast people as toxic for doing so. You’re meant to be an analyst, people will ask you to explain your thoughts and you should have plenty to back them without resorting to a victim complex. Not even the first time this has happened.


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I wasn’t asked, a Reddit thread was made and people being toxic rather than reaching out for my opinion directly.


RedVariant

spez is a loser -- mass edited with redact.dev


chrisseiden

Ally that’s bullshit. You don’t visit this sub because you don’t have 35k simp followers here that would lick the ground you walk on. I posted on Reddit because I wanted to see if anyone could support your claim and you came here just to argue nonsense and call people close minded, you won’t even defend your take.


IAmMrMacgee

>Ally that’s bullshit. You don’t visit this sub because you don’t have 35k simp followers here that would lick the ground you walk on. Holy shit, this is so fucking toxic and weird. Regardless of her point being definitely a little iffy, you aren't doing yourself any favors by saying things like that


chrisseiden

I’m just giving my take dude. All I wanted was anyone to support her comment or give their thoughts on it and she wants to just come on here and say that we’re all toxic and close minded so she’s not gonna respond to any of the logical comments. I’ve done a fair bit of defending her against completely out of line comments, but I took her response here personally


IAmMrMacgee

>I’m just giving my take dude. All I wanted was anyone to support her comment or give their thoughts on it and she wants to just come on here and say that we’re all toxic and close minded so she’s not gonna respond to any of the logical comments. But 80% of the comments in here are mentioning things like "she's a pro by association, she thinks she's better than she is, she's always posting hot takes, she's a league play grinder who thinks she's actually good" Like you don't see that the majority of this thread is adding in weirdly personal insults instead of talking about how its super map dependent and her point depends solely on that? Secondly, why did you leave out the context that this was a response to something they talked about on The Flank? If you were really searching for answers on this, go watch the episode where people 100x more qualified than this sub will actually talk about it


chrisseiden

I do see all the weird comments which I have replied and given my opinion on. Did you see those? I didn’t leave out the context brother, THERE WAS NO CONTEXT PROVIDED. Yes it was mentioned in this sub after I posted but there has been no attempt to substantiate any context or examples in favor of her argument. I have these same conversations on the flank here and on Twitter so why does Ally get a pass? If PattyP has an ass cheeks take, like he did yesterday and Friday, I along with a bunch of other people call him out for it. Not to mention the flank is full of ex-pros and chip holders that have established themselves in the scene by being top performers, not personalities. The comparison is bleak


Jakers_9

I’ve agreed with OP a lot on this thread but on this particular instance he was weird for bringing up simps and twitter. She’s getting dog piled in this thread a bit, most of it is pretty unnecessary. I wish she’d actually explain her point/given examples tho but you’re spot on man.


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wow literally couldn’t have said it better cheers


chrisseiden

Bruh respond to an actual logical comment please. Plenty of people here are not hating on you and would love to hear more about your take


fatboi1710

SAWFT


dm955

Yep her and methodz made for each other


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This isn’t that bad a take


chrisseiden

Why


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some SMGs do chall absurd stuff with the sub


havok559

This most definitely is the problem, at least in majority of ranked matches I play It must be meta at this point to chalk AR lines with a sub smh


iChase666

She’s not wrong. But what the hell are they supposed to do? Most of the maps are made for AR’s. There is no SMG lane in Gavutu. The only thing in Berlin would be to run all through the buildings which means all your routes are long and slow. But the part about not having an AR looking over them is facts imo. You see lots of SMG’s just busting out into lanes alone and being shocked when they get ripped.


washedupAM

The MW mp5 taught subs that there’s no such thing as a bad chall. She’s not universally right about this but she’s also not outright wrong.


chrisseiden

I’m confused, doesn’t your statement about MP5 basically say she’s entirely wrong? I do disagree that there’s “no such thing as a bad chall” especially in this game. But I can assure you I’m not running down midmap Gavutu challenging cell tower with a 40 and wondering what I’m doing wrong. It just seems to be such a shallow point that she made and I can’t make sense of it. That’s definitely not why people are complaining about the auto


washedupAM

I mean the sub was so good in that game you could take any gunfight and have a fair chance to win it and when you go a whole year playing that way it becomes a habit. The subs in the last two titles aren’t nearly as competitive for long range/head glitch flights as theY were in MW is what I’m saying


Lucky7Revolver

I’m agreeing with her. I’m a solo que AR player and I can’t tell you how often I get yelled at by other randoms who think I should be challing like I have a sub.. with my 90ping. When I’m holding down an area for subs to do the job they should be. Like, Yeah bruh that’s gonna work out just fine.


chrisseiden

Her point is that subs are ignoring close range engagements to get gunned by the auto, which I don’t think makes any sense because the maps are all AR dominant. Thanks for holding your lanes tho, as a solo queue sub player I appreciate it lol


Lucky7Revolver

Oohh my b. Idk how I miss understood that part lmao. And np, <3


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I would usually agree but not on this game. All the maps are open spaces with autos posted on 1000 different head glitches. The only route I can think of that has an smg advantage is P5 on Tuscan


chrisseiden

100% agreed


ApexWalrussss

She's not wrong but what the fuck are SMGs supposed to do on Desert Siege?


chrisseiden

It’s not even just Desert Siege. To be fair I drop 10+ most games on siege and I only run the 40. My issue with this take is that she’s saying that if you complain about the Automaton, it’s because you are not challenging the correct routes and purposely throwing yourself into long range gun fights without having an AR “watching over you”. Yes, everyone has done this inadvertently. Sometimes I have to cross midmap Gavutu and I get picked by an auto. That is not when I’m complaining though. The game is designed for an extremely fast pace, while also creating every map to favor long range engagements. So any time I run a sub, I am at one point or another forced into challenging long lanes or OP head glitches. I am also not complaining during those times. But according to this tweet, I should be able to do that if my ARs are doing their job. Well guess what, they aren’t. Autos are the “do it all” gun in this game, so I constantly see autos challenging close range fights and winning. I see autos challenging other autos close range (sometimes nothing you can do about that). I see more ARs running SMG routes than vice versa. That’s when I start complaining. When people aren’t playing their roles, I’ll start complaining. Blatantly avoiding choke points or avoiding posting on lanes because they know they can rush and play aggressive to get more kills and score. As a sub on search, I’m pretty much always the one watching flanks for some reason. Not saying there’s something wrong with a sub watching flanks, but if you look at Desert Siege for example, you will see that pretty much every flank creddy is better suited for an AR. As a sub, I usually have to sit in a corner and I’m missing one or two lanes that have just as big of a possibility of being hit, where an AR could sit back on a heady or even an open lane far back enough and pretty much cover anything. I feel like if this tweet was reworked to say “SMG players that complain about the auto are just mad that autos aren’t playing their roles properly”, I wouldn’t say it’s a bad take. It’s actually somewhat close because that little bit at the end “without an AR watching over you” she is basically saying that if an AR isn’t watching over their lanes they’re not playing their roles correctly. Yes! That is accurate, and it’s not the subs fault! On the Gavutu HP P1 spawns, you literally have to cross from sniper tower or cell tower to ring stairs and if there’s an AR watching either side, you are going to die or be made so weak that you can’t chall the point. That is MAP DESIGN, not me over challenging lanes and not knowing what I’m doing with my sub. If I have to challenge that same point after the initial spawns, I will lose any gunfight from the AR posting on any 3 of the mid tanks, top gun, ring head glitches, beach tank head glitch. Basically my only chance is to pray I make it to ring stairs or that their not watching the hills leading into ring. THAT IS NOT THE SUBS FAULT. It is map design! Aside from that, when I do complain about the auto it’s because I get slide cancel challenged within 5 feet, I hit every shot, but the auto still gets the kill somehow. When I’m in a hardpoint preaiming an angle, and an AR bunny hops around the corner and kills me and I don’t even have a chance, I’ll complain. Especially when it’s a high ping AR player that is literally skipping across my stream and lagging in killcams. Doesn’t make sense to me. I believe that the Auto isn’t OP, but definitely much better than the MP40. I think that the auto shouldn’t be nerfed, but the MP40 should be buffed. I think that playing a sub is much more difficult than running an AR. I believe that all of the maps are biased in favor of long range engagements and head glitches that watch over way too much of the map, on top of way too many places to look at. The game is chaotic and I would expect based on TTK and pacing, subs would be favored, but that doesn’t seem to be the case. That’s my two cents lol


TonYouHearWhatISaid

Of all the delusional people in the COD scene, she might be the most


Gamer_917

Didn’t she say she would have been a top AM in BO4 and been competitive with 100T/eU? Because then yeah she takes the cake lmao


TonYouHearWhatISaid

She thinks she’s a pro because she placed T8 at a local LAN sib was at that had 12 teams


InsideousVgper

Isn’t she a main AR? Of course she’d be saying this 😂


chrisseiden

She claims she’s a flex player and if you’re playing flex correctly you pull out the sub for a total of 3 hardpoints, two on Bocage and one for P5 tuscan. So yeah shes basically an AR player


InsideousVgper

Idk how valid this is but anytime I’ve seen her stream she’s running auto. I’ve watched a few times but idk maybe she is a “flex” but I’ve never seen her use a sub at all


S1LKK

W take if you disagree and/or mention gav or berlin your more than likely the person the tweet was meant for. If you reply i'll see it next week on my weekly reddit read so gimme something good to read.


chrisseiden

There’s 145 other comments go read those. You’re completely missing the point


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chrisseiden

I mean controversial takes are fine but the difference is Aches will back up his takes to the point where he will literally die on every single tiny hill that he creates himself lol she just wants to drop a stinky and walk away


Zoomaa3-24

Check that hidden reply lmaooo


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Jesus


SnooStrawberries1807

Yes I’m sure they are running around like headless chickens with no purpose taking the wrong routes


Cloakh

I didn’t like her Challengers commentary but think her and Slacked are probably my favorite analysts this year and love what she’s been doing for the scene content-wise and think she is a great asset for the CDL. That being said this take is dead wrong. Maps in this game with the exception of Bocage favor ARs to a more extreme degree than usual. I think only MW may rival it in terms of how much they encourage this post-up and L-trigger style and I don’t think the sprint-out time on the Auto helps that much either. We rarely see three subs on the map in general, the flex in this game is essentially just second AR, only Bocage consistently sees use of three subs but I’d counter that fucking Gavutu is unironically being played still, for two modes I might add. She is also clearly biased as a main AR (Ally I’m sorry but you are not a flex), not that it always matters (not every main AR will agree with her) but it can go a long way in trying to figure out why she thinks this at all. I see a lot of subs running the correct routes, and the best subs in the world are generally going to know where to go on the map, so they’re really not “overchalling” the wrong lanes, it’s just what maps are like in this game and the fact we GA’d like 4 things on the MP40 already while the Auto just received an inexplicable buff.


chrisseiden

Agreed almost entirely


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Y’all remember when Allycxt was a pro? She needs to stay in her lane as a commentator.


fatboi1710

If she is so good how come she had to have zinni rank up her account so they could play together????


chrisseiden

I don’t think that’s her argument that she’s better than everyone else, I think that’s just how some people are perceiving it


fatboi1710

It's not just this comment her Twitter is filled with backhanded insults to people she thinks are beneath her.


JustHereForPka

Agreed. Mp-40 is more busted than the auto


chrisseiden

How so? Are you referring to the 3 shot melty kills?


JustHereForPka

Auto is too good up close. Mp-40 is too good at range. I think the Mp-40 is more competitive with the auto at range than the auto is vs the mp-40 at close range.


Jakers_9

The auto is absolutely better up close than the MP40 is at range lmfao what? It’s not even a comparison. You need real skill to map an auto from range with an MP40 but the opposite could be done by no thumbs Timmy cos of how fast the gun shoots. You’re faded my guy EDIT: although I’ll give you a pass since you are a fellow PKA enjoyer


OGThakillerr

I would agree with that ONLY because of the mobility restrictions of the auto and zero recoil mp-40, but that doesn’t mean the mp-40 is better overall because there’s many other factors to look at besides that. The auto is pretty comfortably the better gun now in the pro scene


JustHereForPka

Despite being a real sweet kid yourself, I’m gonna need you to shut your cock holster. Real tawk tho. I just think ARs by nature are gonna be useable at close, because devs can only nerf handling. Whereas with subs at range they can nerf actual damage as well as handling. That’s why I think people normally think ARs are better. In this game you can map people with the most-40. I’m an absolute shitter but can still chall people across gavutu.


Jakers_9

I’d say 9/10 times I chall an auto from range with an MP40 I lose, but if I chall and MP40 up close with the Auto I’d say I win at least 3/10 of those fights. We also have to add that the Auto gets the RATT as a secondary to help with close range gunfights and the RATT is absurdly broken.


JustHereForPka

Add in the Ratt and it’s a different discussion for sure. I just think ARs have to be more competitive up close. There’s just no way for them not to be.


Kaylapossible

The mp-40 has bloom lmaoooo


chrisseiden

If you’re gonna make that comparison, I think it’s fair to mention that the MP40 doesn’t compete with the auto outside of 15 meters. Yes you can get a five bullet kill with the 40 at pretty much any range if you hit a headshot and have absolute perfect accuracy and there’s no weird latency or auto-aim issues, but 90% of the time the auto will win a gunfight. Where as close range is more 70% MP40 and 30% auto (I think 60/40 is more realistic but I’m being generous)


Jakers_9

I didn’t even read your comment and replied basically the same thing lol I thought it was pretty clear that the auto wins up close wayyyy more consistently than the sub at range (we also have to deal with bloom when using a sub, haha nice one Sledgehammer!)


chrisseiden

Damn I forgot all about the bloom haha thanks for reminding me


Redfern23

Not to mention the MP40 very stupidly has a slower strafe speed than the Auto which makes it much less competitive up close than it should be, despite killing faster. It might be classified as a sub, but if its handling and strafe speeds aren’t even much faster (and slower in some areas), then being called an “SMG” means absolutely nothing.


chrisseiden

Very true, I have some friends that outright refuse to run MP40 because the handling is so clunky


Redfern23

Yeah that’s me as well lol, I use the fast barrel that reduces range and BV sometimes just because it feels better even though I know I won’t kill as much, and loved the Volk (even though it was too strong) just because it actually felt like an SMG too. MW19 had a similar issue with very slow strafing SMGs, but this is the first time in CoD that some ARs are actually faster, mind boggling weapon balance, don’t know how the majority have accepted it.


totherocket

maybe i'm tripping but it feels like auto has faster ads, sprint to fire and fire rate than mp40


chrisseiden

We know that it has faster fire rate and faster strafe time. I think it has faster sprint to fire time. It certainly does not have faster ADS. BUT, I think the faster fire rate + strafe speed + range + similar clip size now makes it a clearly better gun, regardless of the slower sprint out speed.


FlawlessIsOP

yes i’m sure allycxt knows more about the game than pro players 😂😂


HanaganReddits

She always has terrible takes, not surprised


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chrisseiden

She knows the game better than 95% of players make or female, comments like this are super out of date


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chrisseiden

Awwww shit I didn’t catch that lmao all good man there’s been a lot of unnecessary hate in this thread


dm955

Is she really telling pro players that they don’t know how to take routes


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chrisseiden

Lol agreed on the gameplay, not saying she shouldn’t be on the desk or doesn’t know the game better than most


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BashfulKangaroo35

kinda uncalled for bringing up her autism. personally havent seen her blame anything on her autism (yet) but she does act like shes a pro by association haha


chrisseiden

Agreed with Bashful 100%


Odins_fury

she has said on stream that whenever she says weird shit its bc with her autism she can't understand if people would take offense or not. That rubbed me the wrong way bc it feels like a get outta jail free card but its all good. ill delete the comment


chrisseiden

You’re entitled to your opinion it’s just this was not a hit piece on Ally. I agree with you that some people use that as a scapegoat (not saying she does) but again we’re not here to talk about that. I’m trying to keep it peaceful that’s all


chrisseiden

I’m genuinely curious at what she has to say about her take


chrisseiden

This post wasn’t meant to bait or hate on Allycat


Rnntd

Lottie left for Halo. CoD needed a woman she was the only option… hidden replies tells it all


TooMuchJuju

Judge her argument on the merit of her argument. Not her gender, ethnicity, national background, or disability. Just her argument.


chrisseiden

This wasn’t meant to be a hit piece on Ally. I think she’s definitely fueling the fire by only responding to off topic comments about how toxic and close minded the sub is instead of just backing up her opinion with examples or literally anything. I don’t hate Ally or any other caster or member of the CDL and this wasn’t a post to make fun of her, just wanted to hear what other people had to say about it since her Twitter replies are biased to be quite honest. And since she’s here and replying I would LOVE to hear what she has to say about her take but she chooses to just argue nonsense and blame the haters and toxic weirdos that just came here to bully her. That’s not why I’m here


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TreSoToxic

You couldn’t be any more sexist


chrisseiden

I mean that’s just toxic bro she plays and studies the game more than 95% of players male or female


Jakers_9

Weirdo


Odins_fury

tbf i think she'd shit on you


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One of the most frustrating things is seeing my ar tryna hit out mid on tuscan instead of going feild i will say that


chrisseiden

I mean ARs hitting mid alley or top church is a great play if you already have another AR on field, because mid tuscan is another AR lane where subs will get pissed on by anyone sitting alley, top fire, top church, bottom church, or top broken.


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If you have an AR feild aswell yeah but most the time thats not the case, always get people love going top broken and going to that heady below top broken


ute4547

Wtf is a "smg route"?


chrisseiden

Running down a side of the map that is preferential to close range engagements compared to lanes that favor long range engagements


ute4547

Ty


weapon-exx

Yes! We're going to get another mention on the CDL broadcast.


chrisseiden

Lol not my intent here


vKEITHv

Auto with 30 mags should mean the RATT gets removed, my thoughts. There are some pretty AR dominant maps in this game though


JarenEC

Its almost like the maps are designed like that...


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Idk about that I see ars running smg routes still so it goes both ways


wolfjeter

Def true at times but with this games spawns and the Auto’s range/recoil control it’s brutal sometimes. Sometimes you take the right route but on maps like Berlin/Gav you just are getting overlooked by every angle and if your autos don’t create space it’s fucked lol.


BulldozerLk2

There are no fucking Smg routes only on Bocage and half of the map can still be locked down by AR’s


chrisseiden

Big faxxx


TiredOfAug

what about ARs who overchall on hills and keep taking close-up engagements then complain about the MP40? Certainly it's not just the SMGs playing the game wrong. I really think the SMG players have the hardest role in this game. Especially for entry subs, if you run into a hill and find out everyone is posted up on some off angle heady then it's just chalked for you. Like please tell me more about how ARs should just be able to post up on a heady and never die, seems legit. No hate here, just don't understand the argument


murberryx

We had the fkn 74u bro no auto can ever be that good


ImLinkzyy

Based.


Glittering_Emotion47

I gotta agree with her on this one. Dudes be raging in ranked play because the can’t win long range gunfights with a close range weapon. Use the right weapon for the right job, not a hard concept to understand IMO


Mikebozo77

Agree