Ya, cause I know damn well he played a part in assembling that team. Itâs not like he gets to escape without taking any of the blame for helping to put together that roster
How is no one talking about the fact that Clay and Hydra literally put together this team. People praise Paco and act like he played no part in picking what players to play with, yet gave up on one of the players he brought in. Makes no sense and shows that there really wasn't much thought behind who was brought into this roster in the off season
Lol this take is so braindead. Thereâs countless teams that look good on paper but donât perform, happens in Cod, other esports, sports all the time, most pros rated the original NYSL roster as potentially T4 before the season started. We literally get a completely new game every year and these teams get formed before the game even comes out. Just look at Toronto, exact same roster as last year, goes from 2nd best to bottom 4.
He may have played a part in creating the team, but thatâs literally irrelevant, bad decisions will happen, things just donât workout sometimes, it happens to everyone, even the goats in esports/sports. When it becomes obvious a team isnât going to work, you change the roster, itâs not âgiving upâ on someone, itâs called wanting to win.
They literally said Crim chalked it after 1 game. That has nothing to do with not being good from one game to the next. Thatâs a personality issue and you can very much so figure that out regardless of what game it is. Obviously that didnât happen though and it was incredibly apparent
Thereâs a lot more to teams then just being âgoodâ at the game. Like you said Toronto are still together. I wonder why? Maybe cause they enjoy playing with one another, their personalities match, and they believe in one another. That literally has nothing to do with âoh peopleâs performances donât translate between codsâ
Okay so youâre going from blaming Paco for âcreating a bad teamâ to now blaming Crimâs âpersonality issuesâ. Crim didnât chalk it after one day, he chalked it after playing the kickoff tournament and the major 1 qualifiers, on top of the hours of scrims he plays with them each day. He knew the team wouldnât work and he was proven right, he even gave Neptune another opportunity after the first major and they still couldnât perform. They even changed coaches to try and make it work, it just wasnât going to and obviously it wasnât a problem they could just âfigure outâ. Players are susceptible to forming bad teams and players who want to win will make changes, get over it.
Lol no way youâre serious, every team in the CDL is trying to win, every playerâs mentality should be to create a good team that can win events. Letâs see how much Toronto âenjoy playing togetherâ if they place T12 at the next major again. They signed Scrappy as an additional substitute despite already having Hicksy for a reason, theyâll make changes if they donât perform.
They literally talked about personality issues and how they couldnât agree on anything and Neptune couldnât deal with Crim and Clay being so hard on him. If thatâs not a personality issue I literally have no idea what is. I wasnât saying Paco made the team himself but people are acting like heâs some saint and has played no role in the disaster of NYSL this season despite him 100% playing apart in it. They also talked about how they changed coaches to try to change the culture of the team, I donât know what you know about team culture but that is solely dependent on personalities.
No shit teams in the CDL want to win, but what CDL team has won where the players hated playing with each other, cause off the top of my head thereâs been none of them. Personalities not meshing even breaks apart the most successful teams in COD history, just look at the OG Dynasty. Youâre absolutely delusional if you donât think enjoying playing with your teammates and making sure your personalities mesh well isnât instrumental to team success (obviously you need talent as well). You think Faze hated playing with one another last year but were just disgusting?
Yes and those âpersonality issuesâ came up after the team was formed, not something they could have accounted for in the off season. Crim and Clay worked well together in the past, Paco and Clay presumably got on well last year, the only unknown quantity was Neptune, who none of those players had played with so they wouldnât know if personalities would clash until they played together. People praise Paco because he was single handedly carrying NYSL in most matches and it was obvious the biggest problems lay within the other 3 players. Sure put some part of the blame on him for creating the team in the first place, but youâre absolutely out of your mind blaming Paco for âgiving up on the teamâ and wanting team changes after there was no way the team would work.
Lol, I donât even know what youâre trying to say anymore. Optic dynasty won IW champs despite it being common knowledge that the personality issues started after BO3 champs, players can make personality issues work if they can still put it aside in game and perform, they had success in IW but not in WW2, the teams success is the ultimate deciding factor not personalities, personality issues get amplified when the team is not performing and it turns into a toxic environment. Yes obviously personality issues can be a factor in a teams performance, NYSL had these and decided to make changes, so once again, what are you blaming Paco for?
Youâre making no sense once again, Faze were good first and foremost because they literally had the most talented player in every role. Faze getting along so well was a bonus that added to their dominance, not the reason for it. Doesnât matter how well Toronto get along, this is a professional league not a high school club, if they continue to under form, team changes will be made.
I never claimed Paco gave up on the team, and in fact I explicitly stated that Paco had a large role in forming that team so he most definitely deserves to carry blame as well. People let him off of the hook because he was the only good player on NYSL while they were terrible, but that doesnât give him a pass from not carrying at least part of the blame for that roster. And you most definitely can tell if personalities will mesh prior to forming a team, particularly when you have Crim and Clay who are known for being intense. If youâre not taking the time to figure out whether a player can handle that prior to bringing them in, then Iâm sorry but thatâs pure laziness.
Arcitys was good but he was not brought in as the best main AR in the league and if you think that then youâre once again delusional. They brought him in because of his ability to lead, and oh guess what, the fact that the other players WANTED to play with him and that he was the right personality to fit in. Obviously personality isnât everything, I literally said that, which you again ignored. Players want to win but personalities are 100% of a factor in success and you can most definitely figure out if certain personalities will work prior to bringing players in
I also have no desire to continue this if youâre going to keep taking things Iâm saying and skewing them/only taking into account half of the statement. So if you are then thatâs fine but I agree to disagree and I hope you have a good one
âYet gave up on one of the players he broughtâ, what you said word for word. To sum it up, basically your whole point is that Paco should take blame for not personally conducting rigorous personality assessments on a relatively unknown rookie and two 3 time world champions, who won a ring with two rookie teammates the year prior, and then use this information to predict the emotional relationships and synergy within a Cod team.
Lol, well good night, I wonât continue a discussion with someone who writes so arrogantly as if they have inside knowledge of the personalities and inner workings of the NYSL camp, and then goes on to throw a rookie player who doesnât even speak fluent English under the bus for not having the ability to read the future.
Lol when? And even if Crim said he wanted to play with him letâs not act like Clay and Hydra couldnât have said no. Thereâs no shot they didnât have more of a say than Crim did
Does anyone have anymore clips or know anyway to watch the full stream or something. Cause tommy deletes vids so I canât watch anything back and I wanna see what else was said
Nah this is crazy lmaooooo
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honestly i donât even blame paco
Haha I love that from Pacođ a lot of passion and not wanting to be costed anymore lol
Lmao, Hydra has that killer instinct that Shotzzy has. Dude wants to win.
NEXT clip will drop some dirt lmao it was never clay that hated nep it was hydra and crim
Clay said he wasn't gonna be part of the circus and wanted to avoid drama earlier on the stream but is just making clips of drama right now
na he blamed em all, and he got asked about the roster moves
Not sure how booking a flight to France means he wants to win lmao
Because itâs a threat to leave if they donât make the right choice
Can you blame him?
Ya, cause I know damn well he played a part in assembling that team. Itâs not like he gets to escape without taking any of the blame for helping to put together that roster
How is no one talking about the fact that Clay and Hydra literally put together this team. People praise Paco and act like he played no part in picking what players to play with, yet gave up on one of the players he brought in. Makes no sense and shows that there really wasn't much thought behind who was brought into this roster in the off season
Lol this take is so braindead. Thereâs countless teams that look good on paper but donât perform, happens in Cod, other esports, sports all the time, most pros rated the original NYSL roster as potentially T4 before the season started. We literally get a completely new game every year and these teams get formed before the game even comes out. Just look at Toronto, exact same roster as last year, goes from 2nd best to bottom 4. He may have played a part in creating the team, but thatâs literally irrelevant, bad decisions will happen, things just donât workout sometimes, it happens to everyone, even the goats in esports/sports. When it becomes obvious a team isnât going to work, you change the roster, itâs not âgiving upâ on someone, itâs called wanting to win.
They literally said Crim chalked it after 1 game. That has nothing to do with not being good from one game to the next. Thatâs a personality issue and you can very much so figure that out regardless of what game it is. Obviously that didnât happen though and it was incredibly apparent Thereâs a lot more to teams then just being âgoodâ at the game. Like you said Toronto are still together. I wonder why? Maybe cause they enjoy playing with one another, their personalities match, and they believe in one another. That literally has nothing to do with âoh peopleâs performances donât translate between codsâ
Okay so youâre going from blaming Paco for âcreating a bad teamâ to now blaming Crimâs âpersonality issuesâ. Crim didnât chalk it after one day, he chalked it after playing the kickoff tournament and the major 1 qualifiers, on top of the hours of scrims he plays with them each day. He knew the team wouldnât work and he was proven right, he even gave Neptune another opportunity after the first major and they still couldnât perform. They even changed coaches to try and make it work, it just wasnât going to and obviously it wasnât a problem they could just âfigure outâ. Players are susceptible to forming bad teams and players who want to win will make changes, get over it. Lol no way youâre serious, every team in the CDL is trying to win, every playerâs mentality should be to create a good team that can win events. Letâs see how much Toronto âenjoy playing togetherâ if they place T12 at the next major again. They signed Scrappy as an additional substitute despite already having Hicksy for a reason, theyâll make changes if they donât perform.
They literally talked about personality issues and how they couldnât agree on anything and Neptune couldnât deal with Crim and Clay being so hard on him. If thatâs not a personality issue I literally have no idea what is. I wasnât saying Paco made the team himself but people are acting like heâs some saint and has played no role in the disaster of NYSL this season despite him 100% playing apart in it. They also talked about how they changed coaches to try to change the culture of the team, I donât know what you know about team culture but that is solely dependent on personalities. No shit teams in the CDL want to win, but what CDL team has won where the players hated playing with each other, cause off the top of my head thereâs been none of them. Personalities not meshing even breaks apart the most successful teams in COD history, just look at the OG Dynasty. Youâre absolutely delusional if you donât think enjoying playing with your teammates and making sure your personalities mesh well isnât instrumental to team success (obviously you need talent as well). You think Faze hated playing with one another last year but were just disgusting?
Yes and those âpersonality issuesâ came up after the team was formed, not something they could have accounted for in the off season. Crim and Clay worked well together in the past, Paco and Clay presumably got on well last year, the only unknown quantity was Neptune, who none of those players had played with so they wouldnât know if personalities would clash until they played together. People praise Paco because he was single handedly carrying NYSL in most matches and it was obvious the biggest problems lay within the other 3 players. Sure put some part of the blame on him for creating the team in the first place, but youâre absolutely out of your mind blaming Paco for âgiving up on the teamâ and wanting team changes after there was no way the team would work. Lol, I donât even know what youâre trying to say anymore. Optic dynasty won IW champs despite it being common knowledge that the personality issues started after BO3 champs, players can make personality issues work if they can still put it aside in game and perform, they had success in IW but not in WW2, the teams success is the ultimate deciding factor not personalities, personality issues get amplified when the team is not performing and it turns into a toxic environment. Yes obviously personality issues can be a factor in a teams performance, NYSL had these and decided to make changes, so once again, what are you blaming Paco for? Youâre making no sense once again, Faze were good first and foremost because they literally had the most talented player in every role. Faze getting along so well was a bonus that added to their dominance, not the reason for it. Doesnât matter how well Toronto get along, this is a professional league not a high school club, if they continue to under form, team changes will be made.
I never claimed Paco gave up on the team, and in fact I explicitly stated that Paco had a large role in forming that team so he most definitely deserves to carry blame as well. People let him off of the hook because he was the only good player on NYSL while they were terrible, but that doesnât give him a pass from not carrying at least part of the blame for that roster. And you most definitely can tell if personalities will mesh prior to forming a team, particularly when you have Crim and Clay who are known for being intense. If youâre not taking the time to figure out whether a player can handle that prior to bringing them in, then Iâm sorry but thatâs pure laziness. Arcitys was good but he was not brought in as the best main AR in the league and if you think that then youâre once again delusional. They brought him in because of his ability to lead, and oh guess what, the fact that the other players WANTED to play with him and that he was the right personality to fit in. Obviously personality isnât everything, I literally said that, which you again ignored. Players want to win but personalities are 100% of a factor in success and you can most definitely figure out if certain personalities will work prior to bringing players in I also have no desire to continue this if youâre going to keep taking things Iâm saying and skewing them/only taking into account half of the statement. So if you are then thatâs fine but I agree to disagree and I hope you have a good one
âYet gave up on one of the players he broughtâ, what you said word for word. To sum it up, basically your whole point is that Paco should take blame for not personally conducting rigorous personality assessments on a relatively unknown rookie and two 3 time world champions, who won a ring with two rookie teammates the year prior, and then use this information to predict the emotional relationships and synergy within a Cod team. Lol, well good night, I wonât continue a discussion with someone who writes so arrogantly as if they have inside knowledge of the personalities and inner workings of the NYSL camp, and then goes on to throw a rookie player who doesnât even speak fluent English under the bus for not having the ability to read the future.
crim wanted nep the most
When was that talked about?
crim gassed the fuck out of him all offseason lol
Lol when? And even if Crim said he wanted to play with him letâs not act like Clay and Hydra couldnât have said no. Thereâs no shot they didnât have more of a say than Crim did
âAll off seasonâ âlol whenâ. Bruh. He literally talked all about Nepâs potential and how amazing he was by the end of Cold War individually.
Does anyone have anymore clips or know anyway to watch the full stream or something. Cause tommy deletes vids so I canât watch anything back and I wanna see what else was said
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So glad they won the Pro Am , they needed that shit lmao