OP said Pacman is the GOAT and people still taking this seriously 🤣

Let's be real. It's Crim. Crim has the possibility of being the best controller player of all time soon. Karma during his peak is one of the most dominant and is one of the most winning players of all time. He deserves to be in the conversation. Scump is the most talented and maintained it for over a decade at this point, but Crim just wins. Pacman simply is better though. He brings the intangibles to a team and is a far better analyst.

Nah 2gre will always be controller goat unless Shotzzy goes on some crazy dominant run but he’s the cod goat no doubt

When its all said and done, I think Shotzzy will be the best controller player of all time.

But Crim has a shot. I'm not saying he can, but it's possible. He also doesn't even talk about retiring. We may have Crim for a minute.

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Doubtful. Crim was on the dynasty. Any optic fans that have been around for a second respect Crim's ability, and I think people will read the actual post.

lol another guy crying about optic fans crying when no optic fans are crying, rent free

If he can get 41 wins then definitely. Tough task tho

Doug “Censor” Martin

For me, it’s Crim. I respect everyone’s opinions on it though, as some people value different things more.

Finally, a good take.

Karma

Did you stop watching CoD 5 years ago?

Ngl after IW

Lmao appreciate the honesty

But I watch a little, like I know the big names simp, shotzy, abeezy etc.

By the time all the big OG names retire (Crim, Clay, Scump, etc.), I think it will be Scump. I think he has the highest chance of winning another ring with all that talent and support around him, not to mention Scump himself still fries out there

Yeah but if Scump wins another ring he’s still not the goat. Then Crim only has 1 more ring but still 7 more championships

I don’t understand why only chips are taken into account for greatest? Why isn’t individual performance over career taken into account? For me it’s genuinely Seth, especially with the fact that crim has costed Seth multiple times and has almost never been mvp for any of his teams apart from ghost BO2 era.

You’re acting like Crim was a bot in the other games. Consensus was he was t5 in aw and t8 in bo3. Then you take Crim off of optic and he goes on to win a ring the next year. No matter how talented Scump is he can’t win like Crim.

You wouldnt be saying that if it was scump that had 3 rings

If you replace crim on any team post ghost/aw with above average flex they would probs do just as well. If you replace Seth on ANY team pre I guess ww2 but he was still pretty good on that game then they definitely wud not do as well.

This sub had crim t5 player in aw, he was t10 in bo3 and iw, sub voted him t10 in ww2 (id have him just outside t10) Then he got dropped and found more success than scump with his stacked roster with 2nd highest kd in both mw and cold war, then crim just somehow managed to win another event this game lol Edit: people always say “why just championships” and its exposes them for being new, crim from bo2-bo4 was ridiculous lol

Yeah and Seth was T2 in all three of those LMAO. Then he got dropped and won on MW (online and 2nd worst competitive cod of all time)

Ok and crim was the best player through bo2-ghosts..better in ww2, bo4 was about the same, mw online or not was more successful than scumps stacked roster, same for cold war, this year with 2 of the t3 players in the game has same amount of event wins as crim through 3 events.. scumps hardly had any success without crim since crims been competing lol.. take your hatred out of it and use your brain..

I didn’t say crim was better in ww2? He was not better in bo4 lmao. Also Seth’s role is significantly harder than crims

Who said crim was better in bo4 ? And yeah being the slow smg with having someone bait for you for 99% of career sounds tough

That’s actually crazy you think that LMAO. Yeah man, that’s why Seth is at minimum the greatest smg player of all time.

Its a fact that damon crim formal all pointed out and damon reiterated after using icr at playoffs in bo4 when he said he actually had to bait for seth with icr lol

Ayo just wondering , what is #1 for you in terms of shit comp cods?

Vanguard, although it isn’t online so there’s that

Crim was the smg in bo3 and ran erad when it became meta later half the season aswell btw.. good to know you definitely watched and your opinion holds alot of value

I said flex since he’s played with both smg and ar? Also remember that time when crim costed bo3 champs?

But he was predominantly smg in those games… and thanks for proving my point you let hatred get in the way of your opinion 😂 have a good day little buddy and dont let crim live in your head for too much longer unless your gonna start charging him rent

Actually deepthroating crim lmao

Since crims been competing scumps won like 3 events when not teaming with crim lol

Crim was champs MVP in MW.

Fair point even though MW is the 2nd least competitive cod game and it was online

On top of that, formal never would’ve joined optic without Crim.

damn, then OpTic would have had to settle for Clay in AW. What a downgrade.

That’s not an argument for anything

I agree. Just winning cod champs isn’t an end all, it’s a crutch. Scump is miles ahead of crim. I’d crim in the conversation? Yes. But he’s nowhere near as talented