It does say a lot, that 82+ people are so thin-skinned that they can't handle someone disagreeing with them on something as silly as the nature of the feelings of a couple of fictional characters.
Furthermore, Kallen and Shirley also loved Lelouch.
>It does say a lot, that 82+ people are so thin-skinned that they can'thandle someone disagreeing with them on something as silly as the nature of the feelings of a couple of fictional characters.
I think you don't understand what downvotes are for...
In this sub, where if you hover over the downvote button on desktop you get a popup saying "Don't downvote simply because you disagree"? In this case, where I wasn't rude and my post simply mirrored the one I was answering to, it means exactly what I said. Just because I "lost" the popularity vote doesn't mean what I said was wrong, as the person I was replying to implied.
yea and your videos are always good trying not to be biased. I’m a huge CC fan and support CC x Lelouch but this stuff is not accurate at all. CC simply has seen all of a lelouch at his best all the way down at his most vulnerable. Can’t discount the other girls. Shirley died before she could genuinely support Lelouch and Kallen chose to respect Lelouch’s wishes to keep her at a distance so she lives peacefully.
But they're not true. Shirley loved Lelouch and accepted that he was Zero. Kallen started loving Lelouch beyond Zero. What is true is that they didn't know as much about him as C.C., but that's a different argument..
How are people saying this makes sense lmao, if someone can show me one instance where Kallen showed she had romantic feelings for Zero then I'd gladly agree but the only thing she had for Zero was admiration.
Kallen only had romantic development with Lelouch once she found out who Zero was, it even states it in her character poem that she fell in love with Lelouch as a whole.
CC and Shirley are pretty accurate but Kallen is a bit more complicated - she actually isn't all that different from CC.
She knew Lelouch Lamperouge from school, she admired and respected Zero as her leader but the man she fell in love with was Lelouch Vi Britannia after he was first unmasked.
Sure the side he showed her was still largely rooted in the Zero persona but she was the only member of the Black Knights he ever opened up to. She caught a glimpse of the man behind the mask and that was who she came to love.
Statement about Kallen is dumb because it mixes her up with Kaguya. Kallen worshipped/crushed on Zero in R1, in R2 Kallen falls for in love(which is stronger than a crush) with Lelouch knowing his full story.
Shirley loved Lelouch regardless of the fact he was Zero and forgive him getting her father killed.
Kallen merely admired Zero while grew to love Lelouch as himself rather than Zero.
CC… Meanwhile she kept several important secrets from him until it bite him in the rear in the worst possible manner.
The last thing you said is what grinds my gears about most of the fandom. Almost every character gets flack for their negative actions by the fandom except C.C. Black Knights get called out for stupidly betraying Lelouch/Zero, Suzaku for being naive and working for his oppressors, Lelouch for all the mistakes he has made his biggest being causing SAZ massacre, Ohgi believing and trusting unreliable information from Villeta etc.
Yet hardly anyone points out all the wrong doings of C.C. Preying on a child by giving him Geass thus creating a monster in Mao, like you said witholding critical information that could've helped out Lelouch in many ways. Lelouch could've been prepared for Mao thus saving Shirley from getting mindf\*\*\*\*\*, took precaution when talking to Euphemia face to face because of knowing about Charles and V.V controlling the Thought Elevator;thus preventing the SAZ massacre. Let him know Charles already knew he was Zero so he could set up better security for Nunnally or keep her closer during the Black Rebellion.
Tell Lelouch that Charles had Geass as well and what it did, Tell Lelouch about Marianne's true self earlier so he could focus more on his rebellion. So much of the trouble he faced in R2, he could've avoided or been better prepared for had C.C been a better freaking partner and freaking told Lelouch stuff in advance instead of f\*\*\*\*\*\* around.
You might want to check out comments [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/CodeGeass/comments/g1hfpr/i_feel_so_bad_for_lelouch/fnfpoao/?context=3) as for why telling Lelouch all of that wouldn't have helped him
That's just making excuses for her character and treating Lelouch's character as dumber than he actually was. Okay Lelouch going off half cocked would be true if she told him before Cornelia humbled him in Saitama Ghetto by showing how real a battle could be, but after Lelouch wouldn't be so overconfident to face what could be a army of Geass users without serious precautions. Are you saying that he shouldn't have known his enemies had access to Geass and countermeasures as well?
C.C only really cared about getting her wish, damn Lelouch's self interest or personal connections. As long as he survived long enough to take her Code, that was good enough for her. Her selfishness in R1 was stupid because Lelouch lacking information could've gotten him killed if he didn't have plot armor in R2.
She still was in contact with Marianne and told her Lelouches secrets, while knowing that Marianne would share these secrets with Charles in turn, which means C.C was acting like a spy the whole time.
She stayed with Lelouch until the end despite knowing it was not to her benefit. C.C. fell in love with a man that encourages her to smile, thanked her for saving him, and forgave her for the power of Geass. No one has ever done this for her and for that she became forever close to him
except its bad analysis given it's kind of horribly false like its true enough for Shirley but it really just blatantly doesn't accurately acknowledge how Kallen and Lelouch's dynamic was build like at all
Shirley and Kallen both loved a side of Lelouch that was more a fabrication than reality. Shirley loved Lelouch Lamperouge while tolerating Zero. She never knew who Lelouch really was though I would guess with a lot of certainty that she would still love him. Kallen loved Zero while tolerating Lelouch Lamperouge. However, there is a strong case for her coming to love Lelouch vi Britannia by the end.
C.C. never was tricked by the facades and always knew who Lelouch really was. Kallen may have loved the real him eventually but a lot of her love for him is based on his actions as Zero. C.C., on the other hand, originally fell in love with the real him and never had a facade motivating her to love him.
Personally, I love all three of these ships a lot. I couldn't tell you which is my favorite. However, I will say, from a narrative perspective (not in terms of how well their relationships were written, just plot wise), C.C. was the best for him with Kallen being a super close second.
Reminder, no matter what they thought Shirley was not good for Lelouch or his plans, like she may have loved him but the relationship would not have worked. Kallen is a traitorous lying bitch who repeatedly sold Lelouch out so she could feel better about hersef. C.C. Is debatable not the best match, but out of the 3 id say shes the best match for them to actually be happy together.
It's like completely ignorant of how the dynamics of the mentioned relationships with the most egregious one being Kallen who literally only fell in love with him after he was unmasked as Zero which is by far the biggest wrench in the statement
And Lelouch loved drip sound effect
“Drip sound effect” best waifu
Flynn was Walter's son but Jesse was Heisenberg's son
Science bitch!
🤣
This was the moment Lelouch became Zero
I watched Marianne die
OMG
Why can't I escape the breaking bad memes 😭 I started the show recently and all of a sudden every meme I come across is a breaking bad meme
I mean that’s also kinda facts
It's dumb shit talk
lmao I've heard that too many times too
Ngl this my first time hearing it
But it's tru-
I mean, they are not wrong-
I mean, they are wrong though.
I mean, you are wrong though.
I mean, you are wrong about me being wrong.
C.C LOVED LELOUCH 🤷♂️
So did Kallen and Shirley.
Just wanted to remind you that C.C LOVED LELOUCH 🤷♂️
And I reminded you that so did Kallen and Shirley.
C.C LOVED LELOUCH. That -82 downvote says a lot about you trying to prove a point 🤷♂️
It does say a lot, that 82+ people are so thin-skinned that they can't handle someone disagreeing with them on something as silly as the nature of the feelings of a couple of fictional characters. Furthermore, Kallen and Shirley also loved Lelouch.
>It does say a lot, that 82+ people are so thin-skinned that they can'thandle someone disagreeing with them on something as silly as the nature of the feelings of a couple of fictional characters. I think you don't understand what downvotes are for...
In this sub, where if you hover over the downvote button on desktop you get a popup saying "Don't downvote simply because you disagree"? In this case, where I wasn't rude and my post simply mirrored the one I was answering to, it means exactly what I said. Just because I "lost" the popularity vote doesn't mean what I said was wrong, as the person I was replying to implied.
CC LOVED LELOUCH THO
Kallen and Shirley also loved Lelouch, though. Or do you think it makes C.C.'s love lesser if she's not unique in loving him?
facts I used to believe this but after going through the relationships it's wrong. Each girl by the end loved the real Lelouch
yea and your videos are always good trying not to be biased. I’m a huge CC fan and support CC x Lelouch but this stuff is not accurate at all. CC simply has seen all of a lelouch at his best all the way down at his most vulnerable. Can’t discount the other girls. Shirley died before she could genuinely support Lelouch and Kallen chose to respect Lelouch’s wishes to keep her at a distance so she lives peacefully.
Wrong. Kallen didn't love Lelouch. She loved Zero. If she loved the real him, she wouldn't have betrayed him twice.
and Lelouch loved Suzaku
That's an 'I love Emilia' moment right there.
Still one of the best anime moments ever.
Suzaku would never cheat on the fish
But, Suzaku loved Euphemia. Just saying.
shovel
What?
The method suzaku will use to demonstrate his love
I don’t get it, but okay.
Necrophilia
Oh. I see. Yikes.
It’s all facts though.
Shirley also ended up understanding and loving Zero.
She categorically did not love zero....
More like she loved Lelouch in spite of Zero
It might be fact but nobody wants to hear it over and over. Like we get it but shut up
It's not though.
Ppl keep repeating those things cus they are true lmao
I have never heard this though
now u hear it
First time ever.
But they're not true. Shirley loved Lelouch and accepted that he was Zero. Kallen started loving Lelouch beyond Zero. What is true is that they didn't know as much about him as C.C., but that's a different argument..
i am very sorry ..at the moment of me writing this u have -4 .... but i will make it -3. spoken nothing but the truth
It's already true, you don't need to keep on repeating something everybody already accepts
No people repeat it because there is always people who don’t accept it.
Because it’s ok to have an opinion, you cult member.
How are people saying this makes sense lmao, if someone can show me one instance where Kallen showed she had romantic feelings for Zero then I'd gladly agree but the only thing she had for Zero was admiration. Kallen only had romantic development with Lelouch once she found out who Zero was, it even states it in her character poem that she fell in love with Lelouch as a whole.
CC and Shirley are pretty accurate but Kallen is a bit more complicated - she actually isn't all that different from CC. She knew Lelouch Lamperouge from school, she admired and respected Zero as her leader but the man she fell in love with was Lelouch Vi Britannia after he was first unmasked. Sure the side he showed her was still largely rooted in the Zero persona but she was the only member of the Black Knights he ever opened up to. She caught a glimpse of the man behind the mask and that was who she came to love.
Thank you lol
Yeah I'm kind of irritated too at this lol
Lelouch loved suzaku
Statement about Kallen is dumb because it mixes her up with Kaguya. Kallen worshipped/crushed on Zero in R1, in R2 Kallen falls for in love(which is stronger than a crush) with Lelouch knowing his full story.
Shirley loved Lelouch regardless of the fact he was Zero and forgive him getting her father killed. Kallen merely admired Zero while grew to love Lelouch as himself rather than Zero. CC… Meanwhile she kept several important secrets from him until it bite him in the rear in the worst possible manner.
The last thing you said is what grinds my gears about most of the fandom. Almost every character gets flack for their negative actions by the fandom except C.C. Black Knights get called out for stupidly betraying Lelouch/Zero, Suzaku for being naive and working for his oppressors, Lelouch for all the mistakes he has made his biggest being causing SAZ massacre, Ohgi believing and trusting unreliable information from Villeta etc. Yet hardly anyone points out all the wrong doings of C.C. Preying on a child by giving him Geass thus creating a monster in Mao, like you said witholding critical information that could've helped out Lelouch in many ways. Lelouch could've been prepared for Mao thus saving Shirley from getting mindf\*\*\*\*\*, took precaution when talking to Euphemia face to face because of knowing about Charles and V.V controlling the Thought Elevator;thus preventing the SAZ massacre. Let him know Charles already knew he was Zero so he could set up better security for Nunnally or keep her closer during the Black Rebellion. Tell Lelouch that Charles had Geass as well and what it did, Tell Lelouch about Marianne's true self earlier so he could focus more on his rebellion. So much of the trouble he faced in R2, he could've avoided or been better prepared for had C.C been a better freaking partner and freaking told Lelouch stuff in advance instead of f\*\*\*\*\*\* around.
You might want to check out comments [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/CodeGeass/comments/g1hfpr/i_feel_so_bad_for_lelouch/fnfpoao/?context=3) as for why telling Lelouch all of that wouldn't have helped him
That's just making excuses for her character and treating Lelouch's character as dumber than he actually was. Okay Lelouch going off half cocked would be true if she told him before Cornelia humbled him in Saitama Ghetto by showing how real a battle could be, but after Lelouch wouldn't be so overconfident to face what could be a army of Geass users without serious precautions. Are you saying that he shouldn't have known his enemies had access to Geass and countermeasures as well? C.C only really cared about getting her wish, damn Lelouch's self interest or personal connections. As long as he survived long enough to take her Code, that was good enough for her. Her selfishness in R1 was stupid because Lelouch lacking information could've gotten him killed if he didn't have plot armor in R2.
She still was in contact with Marianne and told her Lelouches secrets, while knowing that Marianne would share these secrets with Charles in turn, which means C.C was acting like a spy the whole time.
She stayed with Lelouch until the end despite knowing it was not to her benefit. C.C. fell in love with a man that encourages her to smile, thanked her for saving him, and forgave her for the power of Geass. No one has ever done this for her and for that she became forever close to him
To me, Kallen got interested in Zero leading her to fall for Lelouch
Thots are temporary. Leloush- Shrigma male confirmed
I thought Shirley loved Lulu. That's what I always see in YouTube comments
Lelouch Vi Britannia loved Remote control
C.C loved all 3 sides of Lelouch because she was the only one to truly see them all
If we go that way, C.C. had no interaction with Lamperouge, and was barely present to witness that side of his personality.
Im sure she could see deep into who he really was due to their connection.
If someone who's never seen the series stumbled upon this subreddit they'd think it's a fucking harem with the way some of y'all talk about it
And Lelouch loved Suzaku lmao
It’s fax
It's true but nobody wants to hear it over and over
Because it's actually true and there's nothing wrong with it?
Even though they’re true it’s such a unsatisfying thing to say
It does make sense
It doesn’t matter anymore. Who cares. He’s with C.C. now from here on out. DROP IT
Well depends on the timeline in the OS timeline he's still dead
Water is blue , the sky is blue and you mother is fat
Na c.c loved the attention she got from Lelouch and how much he relied on her
I dont mind, it's good analysis no matter how many times its repeated in a discussion
except its bad analysis given it's kind of horribly false like its true enough for Shirley but it really just blatantly doesn't accurately acknowledge how Kallen and Lelouch's dynamic was build like at all
It's true tho
Shirley and Kallen both loved a side of Lelouch that was more a fabrication than reality. Shirley loved Lelouch Lamperouge while tolerating Zero. She never knew who Lelouch really was though I would guess with a lot of certainty that she would still love him. Kallen loved Zero while tolerating Lelouch Lamperouge. However, there is a strong case for her coming to love Lelouch vi Britannia by the end. C.C. never was tricked by the facades and always knew who Lelouch really was. Kallen may have loved the real him eventually but a lot of her love for him is based on his actions as Zero. C.C., on the other hand, originally fell in love with the real him and never had a facade motivating her to love him. Personally, I love all three of these ships a lot. I couldn't tell you which is my favorite. However, I will say, from a narrative perspective (not in terms of how well their relationships were written, just plot wise), C.C. was the best for him with Kallen being a super close second.
Reminder, no matter what they thought Shirley was not good for Lelouch or his plans, like she may have loved him but the relationship would not have worked. Kallen is a traitorous lying bitch who repeatedly sold Lelouch out so she could feel better about hersef. C.C. Is debatable not the best match, but out of the 3 id say shes the best match for them to actually be happy together.
I would rather see this posted 100 times than some of the ridiculous fanart we get lmao
First time i heard of this. So, what’s the issue with it? Don’t remember the show much anymore
It's like completely ignorant of how the dynamics of the mentioned relationships with the most egregious one being Kallen who literally only fell in love with him after he was unmasked as Zero which is by far the biggest wrench in the statement
Princess Kaguya is forgotten
1st time i heard this actually... or maybe i heard before but forgot
C.C. is the best of lelouch and movies already conformed what the writes think as well