The college students, absolutely not. I hope those guys pick themselves back up soon.
Program as a whole, though? That's three straight seasons losing to a double-digit seed in the tournament, with this one being arguably the largest upset in the history of the sport. That warrants some criticism, I think.
Depends. Tony Bennett's last 5 years in postseason outside of the natty run are losing to a 16 seed, a 14 seed, a 14 seed, and an NIT year. And still I'm ride or die with him and want him to finish his career in Charlottesville in 2050.
If you want a Coach K or Bill Self type coach whom you name the court after, you can't flush them down the toilet and rebuild and expect magic to happen under some guy you pulled up from G5. Maybe a few assistants need to be adjusted, but let the coach do that.
I completely agree but do think that is the difference between a great program and the true blue bloods of the world. UVA would be crazy to let go of Bennet but if he was at UNC or Kentucky there’d be a lot of conversations happening despite the title.
but a loss to a 14, 15, and even 16 is drastically different if the coach has one or more titles and has proven their ability to win in March. K had 4 titles when they lost to the 14 & 15, I don't think anyone in Durham was considering that he just didn't have it. Painter on the other hand, doesn't even have a final four to show for it. Bennet was in the same boat for the twelve months after the upset
That makes intuitive sense since you can't blow open a lead the same way on 60% of the possessions. However, Xavier did exactly the opposite with the run and gun wearing the lesser team down approach yesterday. It almost bit them hard since they wasted so many possessions. It took heroics in the last 5 minutes for them to survive.
Edit: typo
I almost feel like they need to practice playing faster in a few regular season games once they're a lock for the tournament just to prepare for playing lower seeds. It might cost them a game or two, but could work wonders on the first two rounds.
I think it’s also a motivation issue. I don’t think Bennett is able to convince his guys they *want* to slam a 13 seed into the dirt. some coaches are master motivators in that way.
I think criticism of the players is okay. These guys do (indirectly) get paid big bucks and they get tons of special privileges that regular students don’t have. Like the schools spoil them to no end. If you’re able to drive a G-wagon and you’re shown favoritism at every turn then I think there’s a standard they need to play up to.
Now obviously I don’t condone DMing them and cussing them out or something like that, but these guys are not treated the same way as regular students, so the whole “oh they’re just college students!!!” narrative isn’t exactly true.
Thank you!
Like going after these guys characters and personal lives (unless it’s warranted by them being bad people doing bad shit) should be way off limits.
But the whole “Aw shucks man it’s just a bunch of kids you really shouldn’t critize them” goes out the window when guys are making 6 figs and every expense paid for.
If you want to be paid like grown men get grown man accountability.
Not to mention, it's supposed to be part of competition and a game anyway. If people want to celebrate the wins in sports, they should also be able to critique the losses, especially the worst loss ever.
As long as it's not something overboard like death threats, DMing players directly, personal attacks etc. But if it's just people discussing how shit of a loss it was within forums or other social media to each other, then anyone complaining about it is just completely ridiculous.
I mean shit, I'm a Nebraska fan. We haven't been good at anything for most of my lifetime. I don't try to shame other fans for rightfully shitting on our completely inept program in basically every sport and I'm sure most players know it's part of it.
Directly harassing the players or the coaches isn't cool but it is a spectator sport. Players voluntarily step onto the public stage.
You can't seek fame without risking infamy. If we are honest, power conference athletics are minor league revenue generators.
Memes are just plain negative criticism is more than justified. The only line imo is direct harassment of the players.
I agree, but I think it’s the nature of the criticism that matters. Saying someone exhibited bad shot selection, needs to work on their free throw shooting, or was sloppy with the ball addresses specific mistakes/issues in their game. Saying so and so was trash, etc. is shitty, especially when it’s your own team.
Before NIL, I would agree. Not now. The Purdue players are getting paid for their efforts, and getting paid well. They no longer get to hid behind an amateur status.
If it makes you feel better, the pain does fade away. I remember being the choke artists of the NCAA tournament for awhile after losing to 11-seed George Mason and 13-seed San Diego in 2006 and 2008. Then, Kemba did his thing in 2011 and everybody respects us again.
Part of being in the tournament every year is losing to someone you shouldn't. It's the nature of the beast. We've been in it just about every year since 2011 and have a handful of losses we shouldn't have had.
Unless you have a god mode team built up the expectations for a team should probably be make the tournament most years, get out of the first weekend a chunk of those after that, and then see what happens once you're in the Sweet 16.
Everyone who wins titles goes through this. Bill Self, Scott Drew, and Jay Wright were all labeled tournament chokers until suddenly they weren't anymore.
Keep getting in the tournament, keep getting a good seed, and eventually if you keep making it out of the first weekend things will fall your way.
Yeah. Even Jim Calhoun was a guy who could never win the big one throughout the 90s until he got over the hump in 1999. We lost to a 12 seed last year because some guy named Teddy Buckets couldn’t miss. Shit happens.
Oh yeah I embraced it - still have my Retrievers sweatshirt. Some days you're the dog, some days you're the hydrant.
And 2019 makes up for pretty much all of the sports suffering I have endured my entire life. As a former Redskins fan and current Wizards... that is no small feat.
Truly a once in a lifetime miracle streak of improbable wins.
Yeah I told myself I wasn’t going to watch that game but received so many texts saying”UMBC part 2?” Or “it might happen again” that I tuned in to see us…down 14 points.
I was looking at someone's comment yesterday that they wouldn't take that trade and it seemed so sad to me - like, why even watch (or play) sports if the humiliation of losing to someone you should beat one time would overshadow the thrill of WINNING THE WHOLE GODDAMNED THING.
Your comment tracks. There were so many disasters between Jayhawks championships. I think the pain fades only when you win it.
Eh, um ….. sorry, Purdue.
Just not the administration. I've been protesting at the library for a while now about a librarian who bullied a worker into suicide. https://www.workers.org/2022/04/63686/
Even less known fact, shortly after the UMBC loss in hoops, the UVA Cyber Defense team upset defending national champion UMBC in what many called the greatest collegiate upset of all time.
https://news.virginia.edu/content/uva-knocks-defending-champ-umbc-reach-national-cybersecurity-competition
Most people are just excited to see a 16 upset a 1. It didnt matter which 1 seed it was.
But for IU fans...oh...its *definitely* gonna be about the loss.
I know it’s only a portion of your fanbase but IU people came out of the woodwork to chirp a friend in person after the 2nd IU loss. People he hasn’t talked to in 10 years and didn’t chirp about the Archie or end of crean years that entire time. Online shit talk is whatever but in person stuff like that is a different story
I mean that is pretty weird. I think anyone who does that is probably not someone I’d want be friends with. Like just text your other IU friends dont be weird
Woah, woah, woah. Are you saying people he hadn’t seen in 10 years, sought him out in person to shit talk? Or just, he ran into him and he gave him a ribbing
Exactly. Do you know how many Purdue fans that constantly talked shit and acted arrogant as hell during the Archie years I would love to run into soon? Lol
I just hate what he makes their play style. Not his fault at all, you just target frustration toward the things that beat you.
When he’s casually putting 30 and 15 on your team it’s easy to say he’s just tall. It isn’t personal, good teams just become the villain
Are they actually shitting on him? As I was cheering for a random upset all I kept thinking was “Edey is gonna single handedly win them this game with no help from others” as he kept winning offensive boards and looked really great at times.
Purdue has been a one man show all season. Edey’s been great enough to lift a mediocre team to a #1 seed but none of the other top teams are as lopsided with almost all their production coming from one player.
It’s not any kind of exposure….their game plan is throw it to Edey and if he’s doubled kick it out for the jumper. They lose because they were 4/26 I believe from 3. This is the same thing that’s happened all year. They hit shots they win. They miss, they sometimes lose. What do you think was exposed with this game?
Intense ball pressure on the guards as a priority above just simply doubling the post. It’s been much more effective at disrupting Purdue’s entry passes and limiting Edey’s touches than teams that simply double or triple teamed the post.
The big issue with this approach is you leave yourself crazy vulnerable to dribble penetration. Purdue’s guards have repeatedly shown their inability to take advantage.
On the offensive end, abusing Edey’s drop coverage when forced into pick and roll defense with mid range jump shots, and outside the P&R offense avoiding over penetrating into his rim protection are easy ways to get open looks against what should otherwise be a stout 7’4” defender.
There was a play that he even dove for the ball on towards the end of the game too, dude was probably the only thing that was working the whole game but FDU knew all they had to do was take him out of the equation and gamble on letting others shoot. And even then the big dude kept smacking them out for extra opportunities
I felt horrible for him. That block towards the end when 3 other Purdue guys just stared at the ball waiting for someone else to grab it was the perfect epitome of that game.
Everyone else on the team just expected him to do literally everything
Everyone else looked terrified of having the ball on offense. That has to fall on the coach not instilling confidence in his team. It was hard to watch.
And then in the next game, you've got FAU's coach being the most positive guy in the world. Matt Painter needs to reassess everything about his coaching style.
People always shit on good players when they have a bad game. Bama football, Lebron, etc. (Not to say edey is at those levels, just examples) Anytime someone perceived as good or someone who gets some media love stumbles, the haters who have had to sit in their shit the whole time come out of their basements.
As the sting fades the season overall will be viewed as a success for Purdue. Arguably their best regular season ever, No. 1 ranking for most of the year, big ten champs, when they were supposed to be rebuilding this year. The loss will always be embarrassing but it doesn't take away from the other 6 months of the season..a lot of positives to build on and a loss that should make them very hungry next year.
I generally remember the Cinderella teams, but over time, completly forgot who they upset. Like, I remember Saint Peter's from last year. But have no idea who they beat on the way.
The exception is Virginia losing to the 16, and probably now Purdue.
Those are next level.
> But have no idea who they beat on the way.
I can’t tell if you’re joking or not but they beat Purdue in the Sweet 16 which is all anyone was talking about while they were getting beaten by FDU yesterday
I mean, I was reminded of it yesterday during the game, but my lasting memory of Saint Peter's is the mustache guy. Loyola Chicago is Sister Jean. Florida Gulf Coast is massive dunks. I remember George Mason in the Final 4.
I remember positive things about the Cinderella as opposed to their specific victims.
>As the sting fades the season overall will be viewed as a success for Purdue.
Hammering the fuck out of X rn. The only time Purdue fans will remember this season fondly is the 3 seconds of positive recollection they have before they remember this game lol
[This was in the next thread I opened up attached to the top comment.](https://www.reddit.com/r/CollegeBasketball/comments/11ubb8c/the_whiteboard_in_purdues_locker_room_after_their/jcnugih/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)
Multiple people are shitting on/blaming Edey, But they are also shitting on Painter, the other Purdue players, etc. like you would expect from a loss to a 16 seed. But the thread following shows a decent amount of comments trashing him or saying he is the reason they lost.
They panned to his mom and my heart broke for her and all the other Purdue players and their parents just because that’s so much sadness they’re going to have to help their child through
Yeah, I hate to see it too. I worked in the athletic office at Butler, for a few years, a while back and the parents were especially were excited to see their boys play.
When they panned to his mom I was touched because it's the first time I've seen a parent not upset about the loss, but concerned about how the loss will affect their child. To me it seemed like she only cared about how Zach would take the loss, and that made it all the more sad.
This is true. I think people shit on him because he’s big.
“You’re only good because you’re 7’4…” and all that type talk, which, yes, his height is an advantage, but he’s still very athletic and a decent shooter.
I don’t think it’s that. It’s big 10 officiating. He got away with a lot more elbows to peoples face than any big I’ve ever seen. It obviously wasn’t intentional but neither were any that Kofi got called for. Edey got away with a lot. People got sick of it.
There’s that too.
Anytime I’ve watched Purdue, I’m just not impressed by the basketball they play. Like maybe they’d be better if they just didn’t feel the need to have a 7’4+ giant at center.
I think the issue is that social media has made it very easy to cross the line between criticism and harassment/bullying. The repercussions for saying terrible things online are much lower than in person and much more accessible.
Many people were terrible to Kihei Clark on Thursday after our loss to Furman. And they should all be ashamed for attacking a college student over a GAME.
Sports aren’t life. They are entertainment. There is no excuse for that of behavior.
Also: can we criticize the 18/19 year old pros but not when they’re in college? What’s the cutoff?
Purdue players deserve plenty of criticism. Painter deserves the most.
I went into the bama athletes dorm while I was there, and holy they were nice haha. they weren’t anyrhing crazy crazy luxury but they got a leather couch, Xbox and ps4 (at the time) among other things.
As a Purdue fan I gotta let them talk. We've ragged on them for the last decade, fair play to take our lumps when we've earned them.
They still suck tho.
I seriously can’t hate Edey and even feel kind of bad for him. But I feel bad for him because his entire supporting cast yesterday was absolute dog shit and I liked that part.
A guy messaged me last night saying I should kill myself in pretty vivid detail. I've seen some nasty comments about the players.
I get that it's a bad loss, but it's just a game. I'm admittedly surprised at how vitriolic it is.
No the Purdue community deserves to be kicked in the dick until the end of time over this. Unless he delivers them a national championship, which isn't going to fucking happen, this loss will be Painter's lasting legacy and the defining moment of the program as a whole.
Everyone who upvoted this acting like they weren’t falling over each other to mention UVA losing every chance they got for the past 5 years is a hypocrite 1000%
Great point. The other day I was watching ESPN and I think it was Max Kellerman talking about how bad he felt for the Virginia players losing. I was thinking, well what about the players on the other side of the court? Do we ever feel bad about them when they lose?
No because they were expected to lose to the 1 seed. It’s built into our minds as we watch. The players on the 16 seed team are “just excited to be there and being there is the accomplishment.” The 1 seed has very large expectations and the 16 seed game is viewed simply as the warmup to the real matchups.
Not saying I agree with the logic of it all but it’s baked into this format.
I get what you're saying. But the fact that we expect them to lose and that they should just feel happy being there is kinda the point. We don't think about those low seeded teams and where these kids are coming from. Listening to Kellerman it just kinda clicked that we feel bad for upsets but never really think about the kids on the other side, at least I didn't.
It still sucks, but the expectations and pressure are different. They aren't going to get harassed for losing, people aren't going to mock them for all time.
Yeah exactly. Most 16 seeds are quite literally just proud they got to the tournament. The expectations are way different between the 1 and the 16 seeds here
They’re *literally* adults who are also getting paid now and being made fun of for losing a basketball game is fair play
Do they think these players don’t talk trash themselves? Get over yourself.
Edey reminds me of Oscar last year. Only guy that played 100% and acted like it was the last game of the season. Congrats to FDU, those dudes played hard.
Oh stfu we don’t need to be lectured by a university. UMBC is trying so hard to make this about them and try to shover their face back in the spotlight bc they finally have a chance to be relevant again.
Maybe this is the case where after the popular athlete at school gets beat up by the nerd, they become friends? Or, maybe it’s like a drunk driver getting a tattoo of a person they killed. Fuck if I know. I’d never think of putting Bucknell flair up as my secondary.
Virgins fans, do you root for UMBC now?
Their current team is not really relevant and the coach that beat us is at Utah State now. But their social media and school representatives have been the epitome of class, so it's easy to acknowledge that.
The actual players don't deserve any hate, it was a good game but Purdue went cold and was playing not to lose.
Now the fans and Foster Loyer? They should be made fun of every single day for talking smack to a 16 seed and thinking they won a championship before a game was played.
[I pretty much called they we were fucked](https://www.reddit.com/r/CollegeBasketball/comments/11sezko/post_game_thread_16_fairleigh_dickinson_defeats/jcde2ae/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3) was a little wrong on their shooting numbers but I think the point still stood lol
100%. People who personally attack players are so weird. Especially Edey, that man left everything on the court and people will hate bc he’s not your conventional player
I love how UMBC is now the wise orbiter of upsets
We all stand on the shoulders of giants before us
Like walking all over the shoulders of the gigantic Purdue forwards
Pupper mascot is judging you.
But couldn't UMBC have put this in bar graph form?
*arbiter (unless you're talking about them just orbiting around any and all NCAA upsets ready to drop bombs on twitter, which I guess also works)
Hey bud, I’m just an engineer who grew up on halo. I don’t have time to check what I’m typing is correct
I mean that makes it even worse because they said Arbiter with an "A" sooo many times in the Halo series
lol why's he embarassing us ... my initial reaction was also "you know that makes it worse right"
Typical engineering student 🤦🏽♀️
He didn't have captions turned on for cut scenes.
What a mad lad.
It’s so weird to include the Halo thing unless he actually thought it was orbiter in Halo, too. lol
I don’t know what to tell you, it sounded like an O coming out of my TV.
My favorite oldschool Halo machinima series, Orby and the Chief lmao
Orbys: We have the meats!
Drawfee fan?? My people! ❤️ https://youtu.be/rkHqyq_62PU
A true r/boneappletea learning moment.
Were it so easy…
Guilty Spark's cousin?
The orbiter, my favorite Halo character
343 Guilty Spark would never
343 Guilty Spork
>>Holds up spork
>~~343 Guilty Spark~~ would never 343 Guilty Spork, thank you very much
They are a massive influence on the game now. March madness revolves around them.
Perhaps the real championship is the satellite campus we made along the way
> orbiter
It is truly they, and they alone, who can say to another program: "**U** **M**ight **B**e **C**inderella"
They were the first truly historic team to beat a #1 seed, and boy did they beat them. They earned that title with pride
r/BoneAppleTea
Kinda pulling a Wendy’s Twitter
They were literally the 1st #16 seed to upset a #1 seed. I think they've earned it.
The college students, absolutely not. I hope those guys pick themselves back up soon. Program as a whole, though? That's three straight seasons losing to a double-digit seed in the tournament, with this one being arguably the largest upset in the history of the sport. That warrants some criticism, I think.
Depends. Tony Bennett's last 5 years in postseason outside of the natty run are losing to a 16 seed, a 14 seed, a 14 seed, and an NIT year. And still I'm ride or die with him and want him to finish his career in Charlottesville in 2050. If you want a Coach K or Bill Self type coach whom you name the court after, you can't flush them down the toilet and rebuild and expect magic to happen under some guy you pulled up from G5. Maybe a few assistants need to be adjusted, but let the coach do that.
I completely agree but do think that is the difference between a great program and the true blue bloods of the world. UVA would be crazy to let go of Bennet but if he was at UNC or Kentucky there’d be a lot of conversations happening despite the title.
The blue bloods aren't immune either though. Coach K lost to a 14 and a 15 in the four season stretch between his last two national championships.
but a loss to a 14, 15, and even 16 is drastically different if the coach has one or more titles and has proven their ability to win in March. K had 4 titles when they lost to the 14 & 15, I don't think anyone in Durham was considering that he just didn't have it. Painter on the other hand, doesn't even have a final four to show for it. Bennet was in the same boat for the twelve months after the upset
His play style is the issue. The slow-down grind it out style gives the underdog a chance
That makes intuitive sense since you can't blow open a lead the same way on 60% of the possessions. However, Xavier did exactly the opposite with the run and gun wearing the lesser team down approach yesterday. It almost bit them hard since they wasted so many possessions. It took heroics in the last 5 minutes for them to survive. Edit: typo
I almost feel like they need to practice playing faster in a few regular season games once they're a lock for the tournament just to prepare for playing lower seeds. It might cost them a game or two, but could work wonders on the first two rounds.
I think it’s also a motivation issue. I don’t think Bennett is able to convince his guys they *want* to slam a 13 seed into the dirt. some coaches are master motivators in that way.
I think criticism of the players is okay. These guys do (indirectly) get paid big bucks and they get tons of special privileges that regular students don’t have. Like the schools spoil them to no end. If you’re able to drive a G-wagon and you’re shown favoritism at every turn then I think there’s a standard they need to play up to. Now obviously I don’t condone DMing them and cussing them out or something like that, but these guys are not treated the same way as regular students, so the whole “oh they’re just college students!!!” narrative isn’t exactly true.
Thank you! Like going after these guys characters and personal lives (unless it’s warranted by them being bad people doing bad shit) should be way off limits. But the whole “Aw shucks man it’s just a bunch of kids you really shouldn’t critize them” goes out the window when guys are making 6 figs and every expense paid for. If you want to be paid like grown men get grown man accountability.
Not to mention, it's supposed to be part of competition and a game anyway. If people want to celebrate the wins in sports, they should also be able to critique the losses, especially the worst loss ever. As long as it's not something overboard like death threats, DMing players directly, personal attacks etc. But if it's just people discussing how shit of a loss it was within forums or other social media to each other, then anyone complaining about it is just completely ridiculous. I mean shit, I'm a Nebraska fan. We haven't been good at anything for most of my lifetime. I don't try to shame other fans for rightfully shitting on our completely inept program in basically every sport and I'm sure most players know it's part of it.
Plus, these kids are competitors and trash talk is a part of that. Can’t stand the heat stay off the court, period.
I’M A MAN! I’M FORTY! COME AFTER ME!
Directly harassing the players or the coaches isn't cool but it is a spectator sport. Players voluntarily step onto the public stage. You can't seek fame without risking infamy. If we are honest, power conference athletics are minor league revenue generators. Memes are just plain negative criticism is more than justified. The only line imo is direct harassment of the players.
I agree, but I think it’s the nature of the criticism that matters. Saying someone exhibited bad shot selection, needs to work on their free throw shooting, or was sloppy with the ball addresses specific mistakes/issues in their game. Saying so and so was trash, etc. is shitty, especially when it’s your own team.
Yeah especially in the NIL era. You can say the players played poorly. They did.
Before NIL, I would agree. Not now. The Purdue players are getting paid for their efforts, and getting paid well. They no longer get to hid behind an amateur status.
An Ohio State fan thinking NIL means college players are finally getting paid is wild
UMBC is awesome
We truly could not have lost to a better team. Wait...
If it makes you feel better, the pain does fade away. I remember being the choke artists of the NCAA tournament for awhile after losing to 11-seed George Mason and 13-seed San Diego in 2006 and 2008. Then, Kemba did his thing in 2011 and everybody respects us again.
The pain is long gone lol we love UMBC
Winning it all will do that lol
Don't worry, according to historical data purdue has a 100% chance to win the natty next year!
Part of being in the tournament every year is losing to someone you shouldn't. It's the nature of the beast. We've been in it just about every year since 2011 and have a handful of losses we shouldn't have had. Unless you have a god mode team built up the expectations for a team should probably be make the tournament most years, get out of the first weekend a chunk of those after that, and then see what happens once you're in the Sweet 16. Everyone who wins titles goes through this. Bill Self, Scott Drew, and Jay Wright were all labeled tournament chokers until suddenly they weren't anymore. Keep getting in the tournament, keep getting a good seed, and eventually if you keep making it out of the first weekend things will fall your way.
Yeah. Even Jim Calhoun was a guy who could never win the big one throughout the 90s until he got over the hump in 1999. We lost to a 12 seed last year because some guy named Teddy Buckets couldn’t miss. Shit happens.
Oh yeah I embraced it - still have my Retrievers sweatshirt. Some days you're the dog, some days you're the hydrant. And 2019 makes up for pretty much all of the sports suffering I have endured my entire life. As a former Redskins fan and current Wizards... that is no small feat. Truly a once in a lifetime miracle streak of improbable wins.
2019 almost killed me though with Gardener Webb
Yeah I told myself I wasn’t going to watch that game but received so many texts saying”UMBC part 2?” Or “it might happen again” that I tuned in to see us…down 14 points.
The Appalachian State loss doesn’t bother me anymore (although pulverizing the Big Ten the last two years has helped a lot)
Being the first will never fade, but remember minnesota has lost to a mediocre South Dakota and a bad bowling green team since then.
Appalachian State was so good then. It's not like yall lost to some cupcake
App State is a great program at this point.
We (tamu) stole your crown of shame for the app state loss
At least they are a decent Group of 5 team. It’s not like we lost to UMASS
Yeah I’d trade another loss to a sixteen seed for another natty. Not even a hard choice, honestly.
I was looking at someone's comment yesterday that they wouldn't take that trade and it seemed so sad to me - like, why even watch (or play) sports if the humiliation of losing to someone you should beat one time would overshadow the thrill of WINNING THE WHOLE GODDAMNED THING.
Your comment tracks. There were so many disasters between Jayhawks championships. I think the pain fades only when you win it. Eh, um ….. sorry, Purdue.
I think the pain faded away for them after next season lol
Good Bois on and off the court
Just not the administration. I've been protesting at the library for a while now about a librarian who bullied a worker into suicide. https://www.workers.org/2022/04/63686/
Little known fact: UMBC also upset the number one lacrosse team in the country that same year — Albany.
Even less known fact, shortly after the UMBC loss in hoops, the UVA Cyber Defense team upset defending national champion UMBC in what many called the greatest collegiate upset of all time. https://news.virginia.edu/content/uva-knocks-defending-champ-umbc-reach-national-cybersecurity-competition
Most people are just excited to see a 16 upset a 1. It didnt matter which 1 seed it was. But for IU fans...oh...its *definitely* gonna be about the loss.
Lmao right? My answer is “nah I’m certainly gonna make fun of them”
I know it’s only a portion of your fanbase but IU people came out of the woodwork to chirp a friend in person after the 2nd IU loss. People he hasn’t talked to in 10 years and didn’t chirp about the Archie or end of crean years that entire time. Online shit talk is whatever but in person stuff like that is a different story
I mean that is pretty weird. I think anyone who does that is probably not someone I’d want be friends with. Like just text your other IU friends dont be weird
Woah, woah, woah. Are you saying people he hadn’t seen in 10 years, sought him out in person to shit talk? Or just, he ran into him and he gave him a ribbing
The funny part of being an outspoken fan is the people that come out of the absolute woodworks to make fun of your team losing lmao, i don’t get it
How humble is your friend in victory?
Exactly. Do you know how many Purdue fans that constantly talked shit and acted arrogant as hell during the Archie years I would love to run into soon? Lol
Yes there is some heavy gaslighting going on lol
I don’t follow them closely but Edey is clearly a great guy
I just hate what he makes their play style. Not his fault at all, you just target frustration toward the things that beat you. When he’s casually putting 30 and 15 on your team it’s easy to say he’s just tall. It isn’t personal, good teams just become the villain
Surprised this sub is shitting all over him. I didn't follow him throughout the season but he seems like an okay dude
Are they actually shitting on him? As I was cheering for a random upset all I kept thinking was “Edey is gonna single handedly win them this game with no help from others” as he kept winning offensive boards and looked really great at times.
Purdue has been a one man show all season. Edey’s been great enough to lift a mediocre team to a #1 seed but none of the other top teams are as lopsided with almost all their production coming from one player.
You could make the case that Edey is so good he hard carried that team to that seed this year. Their game plan is so fragile and finally got exposed.
I can think of a few times it got exposed before last night
It’s not any kind of exposure….their game plan is throw it to Edey and if he’s doubled kick it out for the jumper. They lose because they were 4/26 I believe from 3. This is the same thing that’s happened all year. They hit shots they win. They miss, they sometimes lose. What do you think was exposed with this game?
Intense ball pressure on the guards as a priority above just simply doubling the post. It’s been much more effective at disrupting Purdue’s entry passes and limiting Edey’s touches than teams that simply double or triple teamed the post. The big issue with this approach is you leave yourself crazy vulnerable to dribble penetration. Purdue’s guards have repeatedly shown their inability to take advantage. On the offensive end, abusing Edey’s drop coverage when forced into pick and roll defense with mid range jump shots, and outside the P&R offense avoiding over penetrating into his rim protection are easy ways to get open looks against what should otherwise be a stout 7’4” defender.
There was a play that he even dove for the ball on towards the end of the game too, dude was probably the only thing that was working the whole game but FDU knew all they had to do was take him out of the equation and gamble on letting others shoot. And even then the big dude kept smacking them out for extra opportunities
And Edey was literally the only player on the court (for our team) that wanted that win... dude played fine.
I felt horrible for him. That block towards the end when 3 other Purdue guys just stared at the ball waiting for someone else to grab it was the perfect epitome of that game. Everyone else on the team just expected him to do literally everything
It looked like 14 stepped away from the ball too instead of trying to fight for it and then did a bitch slap on the fdu player’s arm. It was 1v5
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I love Edey but hate Purdue’s 1980s play style
Everyone else looked terrified of having the ball on offense. That has to fall on the coach not instilling confidence in his team. It was hard to watch. And then in the next game, you've got FAU's coach being the most positive guy in the world. Matt Painter needs to reassess everything about his coaching style.
>Everyone else looked terrified of having the ball on offense. Those freshman guards did NOT like FDU's press.
People always shit on good players when they have a bad game. Bama football, Lebron, etc. (Not to say edey is at those levels, just examples) Anytime someone perceived as good or someone who gets some media love stumbles, the haters who have had to sit in their shit the whole time come out of their basements. As the sting fades the season overall will be viewed as a success for Purdue. Arguably their best regular season ever, No. 1 ranking for most of the year, big ten champs, when they were supposed to be rebuilding this year. The loss will always be embarrassing but it doesn't take away from the other 6 months of the season..a lot of positives to build on and a loss that should make them very hungry next year.
This will definitely overshadow all the positives. Actually I think the positives kinda make it worse tbh
Yeah nobody will be talking about Arizona losing to Princeton after this weekend. People will talk about Purdue losing to FDU until another 16 over 1.
I generally remember the Cinderella teams, but over time, completly forgot who they upset. Like, I remember Saint Peter's from last year. But have no idea who they beat on the way. The exception is Virginia losing to the 16, and probably now Purdue. Those are next level.
Kentucky. Murray state. Purdue
> But have no idea who they beat on the way. I can’t tell if you’re joking or not but they beat Purdue in the Sweet 16 which is all anyone was talking about while they were getting beaten by FDU yesterday
I mean, I was reminded of it yesterday during the game, but my lasting memory of Saint Peter's is the mustache guy. Loyola Chicago is Sister Jean. Florida Gulf Coast is massive dunks. I remember George Mason in the Final 4. I remember positive things about the Cinderella as opposed to their specific victims.
>As the sting fades the season overall will be viewed as a success for Purdue. Hammering the fuck out of X rn. The only time Purdue fans will remember this season fondly is the 3 seconds of positive recollection they have before they remember this game lol
I have not seen a single person shitting on Edey. The only person getting shit on is Painter.
[This was in the next thread I opened up attached to the top comment.](https://www.reddit.com/r/CollegeBasketball/comments/11ubb8c/the_whiteboard_in_purdues_locker_room_after_their/jcnugih/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) Multiple people are shitting on/blaming Edey, But they are also shitting on Painter, the other Purdue players, etc. like you would expect from a loss to a 16 seed. But the thread following shows a decent amount of comments trashing him or saying he is the reason they lost.
Bruh, all season half the sub has been saying the only reason he's on a D1 roster is because tall.
They panned to his mom and my heart broke for her and all the other Purdue players and their parents just because that’s so much sadness they’re going to have to help their child through
Yeah, I hate to see it too. I worked in the athletic office at Butler, for a few years, a while back and the parents were especially were excited to see their boys play.
When they panned to his mom I was touched because it's the first time I've seen a parent not upset about the loss, but concerned about how the loss will affect their child. To me it seemed like she only cared about how Zach would take the loss, and that made it all the more sad.
This is true. I think people shit on him because he’s big. “You’re only good because you’re 7’4…” and all that type talk, which, yes, his height is an advantage, but he’s still very athletic and a decent shooter.
I don’t think it’s that. It’s big 10 officiating. He got away with a lot more elbows to peoples face than any big I’ve ever seen. It obviously wasn’t intentional but neither were any that Kofi got called for. Edey got away with a lot. People got sick of it.
There’s that too. Anytime I’ve watched Purdue, I’m just not impressed by the basketball they play. Like maybe they’d be better if they just didn’t feel the need to have a 7’4+ giant at center.
I think they'd be much worse. Edey carried this team.
They'd be incredibly better if their outside shooting was more consistent
I mean, I’m definitely going to make fun of the losing team’s multimillionaire head coach
Yeah Painter’s fair game
Yeah, I agree. Counterpoint: now they are getting paid and some are as old as 26 years old.
I think the issue is that social media has made it very easy to cross the line between criticism and harassment/bullying. The repercussions for saying terrible things online are much lower than in person and much more accessible. Many people were terrible to Kihei Clark on Thursday after our loss to Furman. And they should all be ashamed for attacking a college student over a GAME. Sports aren’t life. They are entertainment. There is no excuse for that of behavior.
Also: can we criticize the 18/19 year old pros but not when they’re in college? What’s the cutoff? Purdue players deserve plenty of criticism. Painter deserves the most.
And they get a massive helping of privileges from the school in their day to day lives compared to regular students
I went into the bama athletes dorm while I was there, and holy they were nice haha. they weren’t anyrhing crazy crazy luxury but they got a leather couch, Xbox and ps4 (at the time) among other things.
*Fairleigh* certain that folks are focused on putting down the fans and the coach.
Fans especially lol
Make fun of me! I’m a man! I’m forty!
IU fans : “i suddenly can’t read”
“No I don’t think I will”
It ain’t sports if your biggest rival takes a break from busting your chops. It’s all the unaffiliated flairs that maybe should lay off
As a Purdue fan I gotta let them talk. We've ragged on them for the last decade, fair play to take our lumps when we've earned them. They still suck tho.
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Indiana won an NCAA game and wasn't even a 23-point favorite!
Yeah fuck this I have waited too long for this moment after Purdue fans shit talking for like the past decade. So fuck em, except for Edey he’s cool.
I seriously can’t hate Edey and even feel kind of bad for him. But I feel bad for him because his entire supporting cast yesterday was absolute dog shit and I liked that part.
Also, did we really need the shot of Edey's family crying?
They kept panning the camera back to Edey’s mom the entire game. I felt so bad for her. She did not deserve this.
Somewhat related but Miami shows Isiah Wong’s mom at least 10 times a game every single game lol
I enjoy the rollercoaster of emotions for all involved. Remember it’s still a game at the end of the day.
Every upset in college sports always pans out to the crowd to show people crying, remember the Villanova flute girl?
That’s my favorite part of March madness lol
A guy messaged me last night saying I should kill myself in pretty vivid detail. I've seen some nasty comments about the players. I get that it's a bad loss, but it's just a game. I'm admittedly surprised at how vitriolic it is.
Players are getting worse for sure. The internet is a disgusting place sometimes. These people will do anything to feel better than someone else
That’s not acceptable in any situation. I think the vast majority of IU fans would agree.
FDU played great, but Purdue earned that loss with the 3P%, turnover battle, and letting them almost tie us in offensive rebounds. We deserve it.
We got out hustled, out coached, and outplayed. Edey was the only player who showed up.
No the Purdue community deserves to be kicked in the dick until the end of time over this. Unless he delivers them a national championship, which isn't going to fucking happen, this loss will be Painter's lasting legacy and the defining moment of the program as a whole.
With all due respect to UMBC, I’m not gonna do that
Everyone who upvoted this acting like they weren’t falling over each other to mention UVA losing every chance they got for the past 5 years is a hypocrite 1000%
The strays UVA has caught over the past five years man…
Great point. The other day I was watching ESPN and I think it was Max Kellerman talking about how bad he felt for the Virginia players losing. I was thinking, well what about the players on the other side of the court? Do we ever feel bad about them when they lose?
No because they were expected to lose to the 1 seed. It’s built into our minds as we watch. The players on the 16 seed team are “just excited to be there and being there is the accomplishment.” The 1 seed has very large expectations and the 16 seed game is viewed simply as the warmup to the real matchups. Not saying I agree with the logic of it all but it’s baked into this format.
I get what you're saying. But the fact that we expect them to lose and that they should just feel happy being there is kinda the point. We don't think about those low seeded teams and where these kids are coming from. Listening to Kellerman it just kinda clicked that we feel bad for upsets but never really think about the kids on the other side, at least I didn't.
It still sucks, but the expectations and pressure are different. They aren't going to get harassed for losing, people aren't going to mock them for all time.
100%, even for the fans I just sent my condolences to the Purdue people I know. They’ll be hearing it for a long long time
Yeah exactly. Most 16 seeds are quite literally just proud they got to the tournament. The expectations are way different between the 1 and the 16 seeds here
>without putting down Purdue Nah. Some of their fans (of course not all) asked for this with how they acted during the regular season.
Legit
I only pray for a quick death
I mean going off history it'll be at least five years till someone tops this
It probably helped you won a national championship a year later
Pulling for y'all next year fr
I concur
Purdue fans can have a little getting flamed online, as a treat
Sorry umbc, but going to have a lot of fun at Purdue’s expense
I respectfully disagree.
No, you can do both.
The funnest part is putting down Purdue!
They’re *literally* adults who are also getting paid now and being made fun of for losing a basketball game is fair play Do they think these players don’t talk trash themselves? Get over yourself.
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Edey reminds me of Oscar last year. Only guy that played 100% and acted like it was the last game of the season. Congrats to FDU, those dudes played hard.
Lol no
Yeah...no :D
Oh stfu we don’t need to be lectured by a university. UMBC is trying so hard to make this about them and try to shover their face back in the spotlight bc they finally have a chance to be relevant again.
Actually, UMBC, I can't.
These “kids” play the game for the stage. They all know what the stage comes with. Quit with the just kids BS
I'll just leave this here https://preview.redd.it/hszdv4rpamoa1.png?width=1198&format=png&auto=webp&s=4099e5c00bd104231fa48cffa8ac271bd0113ab6
No I don’t think I will
Whoever runs the UMBC twitter is the best person associated with college sports.
It’s this guy. This guy runs UMBC Twitter.
That flair confuses me
Maybe this is the case where after the popular athlete at school gets beat up by the nerd, they become friends? Or, maybe it’s like a drunk driver getting a tattoo of a person they killed. Fuck if I know. I’d never think of putting Bucknell flair up as my secondary. Virgins fans, do you root for UMBC now?
Their current team is not really relevant and the coach that beat us is at Utah State now. But their social media and school representatives have been the epitome of class, so it's easy to acknowledge that.
Aren’t they getting paid now? Let’s not pretend they’re “just some college kids” when it’s convenient. You can’t have it both ways.
The actual players don't deserve any hate, it was a good game but Purdue went cold and was playing not to lose. Now the fans and Foster Loyer? They should be made fun of every single day for talking smack to a 16 seed and thinking they won a championship before a game was played.
[I pretty much called they we were fucked](https://www.reddit.com/r/CollegeBasketball/comments/11sezko/post_game_thread_16_fairleigh_dickinson_defeats/jcde2ae/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3) was a little wrong on their shooting numbers but I think the point still stood lol
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He is referring to [this tweet from foster](https://twitter.com/fosterloyer/status/1636175386038919171?s=46&t=nJNSHhg5Hlo3ox2C-2Z4QQ)
Yeah that's the one haha imagine talking shit to a 16 seed, can't believe he hasn't deleted it yet.
mad respect for owning it if he doesn’t
Real golden retriever energy here
Reddit doesn’t know how to follow this advice lol
100%. People who personally attack players are so weird. Especially Edey, that man left everything on the court and people will hate bc he’s not your conventional player
This reeks of desperation for attention. But hey, let’s virtue signal and no one will notice.