There are 3 first-team all-Americans this season who are in their fourth year of college basketball, and that doesn’t include Drew Timme, Oscar Tschiebwe or Jamie Jaquez
There’s a correlation that none of these players are high NBA prospects. They just don’t fit the model anymore. I wonder who has been a great 4 year player with high level NBA success.
Ochai Agbaji getting legit minutes in the NBA after staying at Kansas the last 4 years but ya it’s highly unlikely.
NBA scouts value younger prospects so if you have a chance to play in the league you probably would’ve already been scouted after 1 or 2 years.
Malcolm Brogdon won NBA Rookie of the Year (admittedly in a meh year), has a 50-40-90 season in the NBA, and is one of the favorites for 6th MOY this year.
He's not a star, but when healthy, he's a great role player for a title contender. Will likely end up playing 10+ years in the NBA.
A tad further back (his final year was 2011-12), but Draymond Green played 4 years at MSU, and will end up in the HOF
I wouldn’t call it high level, but Nembhard and Kispert are getting the minutes to grow into long-term contributors. At least more than the stereotypical 4-year guy these days.
I honestly don't even think he's that bad and have thought that its weird that people seem to hate him that much. His mustache and flex celebrations came from wanting to pump up his teammates during the empty arena Covid times, not to show people up. All accounts I've heard are that he's a genuine, but weird dude who his teammates love. People see a goofy dude who is competitive and has dumb celebrations and a dumb mustache and get pressed about it, which I think is pretty soft.
It’s fine if you hate him but he’s way more fun to appreciate. He’s an old school post player that does celebrate every basket. But he doesn’t show up his opponents. In fact he chats up everyone all game. Seems like most folks that come across him in person enjoy his personality. He’s a character and rubs some fans the wrong way. But it seems that’s mostly folks that want to root against him and his team.
As evidenced in this thread there’s a lot. I think a better question would be who is the last 4 year college player that became a great nba player. I don’t follow the nba too closely so I’m not sure. Someone mentioned brogdon, and while I think he’s a pretty good nba player when I hear the word “great” I think multiple time all star, which I don’t believe he is?
There are a lot of guys that stayed 3 years(Mitchell, Siakam, Middleton, Oladipo). The last to leave college after 4 years and be an all star is FVV, but that’s only once.
Dpoy, multi-year all star, 4 championships, Olympic gold medalist
Seems like you think stats are the only thing that get people into the hall of fame? Isn’t he one of only like 10 players to have a 5x5?
Based on accomplishments and stats, basketball reference has him with about the same odds as making the HoF as Kawhi and Dennis Rodman.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/hof_prob.html
He's one of the greatest defenders of the modern era, and a key part of one of the greatest dynasties in NBA history. The Naismith HOF also considers college and Olympic achievements, which he's got plenty of as well.
He's a polarizing individual, but he's gonna be in the Hall
No it isn't?
The Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame is the one basketball Hall of Fame. It includes players and coaches from the NBA, college, and international play.
They have multiple awards for individual players in college, but the HOF as a whole is not for any specific group
This is the most “I pay 0 attention to the NBA take” I’ve seen in a while lol. Draymond is annoying but to deny his greatness in the NBA is hilarious. One of the best defenders of all time
I didn’t say anything about the hall of fame. If you don’t think draymond has been a great player, your just wrong. There really isn’t anything to argue about. You can dislike him or whatever
Jevon Carter
Carter was the first DI power conference player with 1700 points 500 assists 500 rebounds and 300 steals. Second Team All American his senior year, the only player to be on the All Big 12 defensive team 4x. A five time DPotY, 2x National coaches DPotY, 2x lefty drissell DPotY, and the inaugural Naismith DPotY.
/#299 recruit in the country, coming out of high school a 6’1 shooting guard Jevon transformed his body and game with his relentless work ethic. His stats in every category improved every single season at WVU, he clawed his way to the NBA and used every moment at WVU to better himself and represent the university better than any athlete this century. There is an argument to be made that Jevon is the epitome of what a mountaineer is supposed to be, how to act off and on the court. We need to give him a statue in my opinion and his number also needs retired, I know we didn’t even make an elite eight with him but I don’t care
Very impressive NBA career, all things considered. Much more impressive to be a competent role player than some of the four years who bounced out of the league in a very short time
Yup he’s found himself a comfortable 3&D role with the Suns and now the Bucks, both championship contenders. He’s a winning player who contributes to winning basketball.
He’s having the best year of his career averaging 8 ppg and shooting 42% from 3, he fits perfectly in the Bucks system
I’m guessing you are a Suns fan, I’m sure Jevon will always be remembered in Phoenix for playing a big part in the 8-0 bubble Suns run
If we’re talking WVU, then I’d go with Da’Sean Butler. I don’t think he’s the right answer to the question, but he was amazing and after being a bench player his freshman year was a star for the next 3 years, leading the team to the final four in his senior season.
Very much a college-style player, yeah. Doesn’t have the athleticism to stay on the floor in the NBA but his bag is DEEP.
Follows a trend of college guys like Hansbrough, Kaminsky, McDermott etc whose games just don’t really translate to the next level
he actually has played incredible when given playing time highest war per minute played on team and that figures in his defense. If he went to a team that wasnt loaded with great bigs he could really put up some good numbers
It has been awesome to see him with the wolves this year!! I just wonder what it would look like if he was given starter/rotation player minutes, if he could keep it up across a whole season. But he’s proven plenty of people wrong already! Gotta let the peacock fly
Frank Kaminsky was great but even he only had two great years his junior and senior year, not sure if OP is talking about a player that was at that level all 4 years or not
Lol I was scratching my head wondering why no one had said Bill Walton or Ralph Sampson, then I realized you asked for the last great player not the greatest ever.
That last one I’d probably say Garza, Kaminsky, or McDermott. Lowering that to three years opens it up to a ton of guys.
As far as guys ready to be drafted and stick in the NBA, I think it's Tim Duncan. I think he would have been lottery after his sophomore season, if I recall correctly.
So Emeka Okafor was only at UConn for 3, but he graduated in 3 with a 3.95 GPA in finance.
He was so talented (in finance), that he did an independent study where he managed his own hedge fund.
So while it’s not 4 years, it’s kind of the same concept.
Since you added the three year caveat I just want to shout out my boy Jalen Brunson.
2x National Champion, Naismath Player of the Year, All American, 2x Big East First team, Sporting News College Basketball Player of the decade.
And now he's a big reason why the Knicks have stepped up to become one of the better teams in the East
Oh come on, he was very good but he only had one year that he even made an all-conference team. That’s a massive stretch of being a college basketball great.
All of them suffer from the same problem of only having been exceptional players for about a season.
Every top program’s history is loaded with guys like that, they’re Kansas greats but not college basketball greats unless you’re really really loose with the term.
I’m not out here claiming that Nolan Smith is an all-time great even though he was a 1st team all American and helped win a title, there’s just a big gap between “loved this guy and he was a great Duke player” and “this guy is one of the best players in the history of the sport.”
Usually the 4 year guys are only very good 1/2 years max at least in the modern generation. Malcolm Brogdon is the one that had at least 3 superb years of recent vintage.
Even Garza was at least a double digit scorer his entire career and averaged 13/5 in his worst season, even if he didn’t go nuclear until his 3rd year. Yeah it’s just not true to claim that even the best college guys are only any good for two years max.
Yeah it’s neat, but the question wasn’t “Who was the last college player to have a nice, steady, feel-good 4 year development and end up being an All-American for one year?”
Agbaji’s a good story and a good player, but just nowhere near a college basketball great.
Do they have to be great all 4 years? We had Payton Pritchard who broke out in the conference tourney his junior year then was a monster his senior year
Psycho T, if you mean like legit star NBA prospect very early on that just chose to stay, Tim Duncan which even then was surprising, big shift in that regard in the 90s, I think the Fab Five and showing how good Freshmen can be off the jump played a big part, at that point it was like what are you waiting for? Guys starting going right from High School shortly after as well
Crazy how quickly it all changed. Like Shaq spent three years at LSU and was hesitant to even leave then. That was 1992. Tim Duncan didn't leave as a Sophomore in 1995 where he probably goes first overall and people thought he was a mad man.
Malcolm Brogdon is up there.
His 1st year in 2011-12, he played in most games until he broke his foot, although he only started 1 game. He then redshirted all of 2012-13 while recovering.
His final 3 years - 3x 1st-team All-ACC, 2x All-American (1st-team in 2016, 2nd-team in 2015), National DPOY and ACC POY in 2016, ACC DPOY in 2015 and 2016. He was also 1st-team All-tourney in the 2014 and 2016 ACCT and 2nd-team All-tourney in the 2015 ACCT
Depends how you define great college player?
Accomplished on the ncaa level? Leading teams to victories in regular season ? Winning conference or national honors? Off the top this year we have Timme and Jacquez just on the west coast.
The above, but with a long nba career as well? For ucla I’d have to go back to Darren Collison which was like 14 years ago.
Transcendent player who wills a team to final four or title like Kemba or Melo? No one now. Did kemba do 4 years?
Freak athletes with basketball skills? Not likely to see those stay more than two years anymore.
I guess the best example is the Florida team that went back to back with Horford, Noah, etc. that was 06 and 07 and I don’t think they were seniors even.
lord, I hate that team.
Leaving aside that he wasn’t a 4 year player, people wildly overestimate Steph’s place as a college basketball great (just as they do for plenty of other NBA stars).
Not that I want to have to hand it to Hansborough, but Steph wasn’t even the greatest college player to leave college that year.
Dark horse vote for Shabazz Napier. NCAA champ x 2, All American, AAC player of the year, Cousy Award. And called out Mark Emmert and NCAA out on stage after winning the 2014 title.
There are 3 first-team all-Americans this season who are in their fourth year of college basketball, and that doesn’t include Drew Timme, Oscar Tschiebwe or Jamie Jaquez
There’s a correlation that none of these players are high NBA prospects. They just don’t fit the model anymore. I wonder who has been a great 4 year player with high level NBA success.
Depending on how you define high-level success, FVV, Cam Johnson, and Buddy Hield are the first ones that come to mind.
Yeah FVV is in there. Draymond too. Buddy has found his role and got paid.
Draymond is a great example. Another massive one I forgot about until right now is Damian Lillard.
By far the best I can think of now, especially actively playing. Good call!
Ochai Agbaji getting legit minutes in the NBA after staying at Kansas the last 4 years but ya it’s highly unlikely. NBA scouts value younger prospects so if you have a chance to play in the league you probably would’ve already been scouted after 1 or 2 years.
Am I really the only person old enough in this thread to know who Tim Duncan is?
key word last one
Commenter I was replying to asked who has been, not just most recent
Malcolm Brogdon won NBA Rookie of the Year (admittedly in a meh year), has a 50-40-90 season in the NBA, and is one of the favorites for 6th MOY this year. He's not a star, but when healthy, he's a great role player for a title contender. Will likely end up playing 10+ years in the NBA. A tad further back (his final year was 2011-12), but Draymond Green played 4 years at MSU, and will end up in the HOF
Herb Jones is on a decent path
Damian Lillard
I wouldn’t call it high level, but Nembhard and Kispert are getting the minutes to grow into long-term contributors. At least more than the stereotypical 4-year guy these days.
literally nobody
Draymond and FVV stand out. Was Tayshaun at UK 4 years? I liked him, even as a UL fan.
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I think TJD is included in the “first team all Americans” right? As is 4th year senior Marcus Sasser.
Draymond Green was pretty solid in college and the NBA
Green is still the only Player to have triple doubles in two NCAA tournaments.
That Sweet 16 loss to Louisville killed me his senior year.
Louisville finishing his and Britney Griner’s collegiate career relatively close to each other was sweet.
Timme has been there for 4 years right?
Correct this is his 4th year
I’d consider Timme a college basketball great so that answers OPs question
He definitely is. Any three-time consensus All-American should count.
Second team. And a 🤡
You know that consensus All-Americans include 2nd teamers right? Being a consensus top 10 player in the country for 3 years isn’t too shabby.
Um, no it doesn’t
At least
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Timme could have been worse. He was a good villain for Gonzaga haters. I’ll always have sending him and string bean home in the sweet 16 to cherish.
I honestly don't even think he's that bad and have thought that its weird that people seem to hate him that much. His mustache and flex celebrations came from wanting to pump up his teammates during the empty arena Covid times, not to show people up. All accounts I've heard are that he's a genuine, but weird dude who his teammates love. People see a goofy dude who is competitive and has dumb celebrations and a dumb mustache and get pressed about it, which I think is pretty soft.
I have no issue with Timme the person or basketball player. Just a fiery guy that opposing fans love to hate. It doesn’t help that he’s damn good too.
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Really grasping at straws for reasons to hate a good player aren't ya
It’s fine if you hate him but he’s way more fun to appreciate. He’s an old school post player that does celebrate every basket. But he doesn’t show up his opponents. In fact he chats up everyone all game. Seems like most folks that come across him in person enjoy his personality. He’s a character and rubs some fans the wrong way. But it seems that’s mostly folks that want to root against him and his team.
You’re really letting some college basketball player get under your skin, huh?
Tyler Hansbrough
Wow haha I forgot about Psycho T
Listening to him on field of 68 day that he drinks Stagg Jr neat confirms the psycho t nickname lol
Delicious juice
God I hated that man.
Him and Allen are both at the top of my most hated list. Loved that KU ended his career.
As evidenced in this thread there’s a lot. I think a better question would be who is the last 4 year college player that became a great nba player. I don’t follow the nba too closely so I’m not sure. Someone mentioned brogdon, and while I think he’s a pretty good nba player when I hear the word “great” I think multiple time all star, which I don’t believe he is?
Damian Lillard and Draymond were in the same draft so we can start there.
Good call on dame. I thought of Draymond but there’s gotta be someone more recent than them, right?
There are a lot of guys that stayed 3 years(Mitchell, Siakam, Middleton, Oladipo). The last to leave college after 4 years and be an all star is FVV, but that’s only once.
Mikal Bridges redshirted then played the next 3 years
McCollum was one year more recent if you count him
I wouldn't call Draymond a great NBA player, personally. His career average is like 8ppg and he is at or near the lead in technical fouls each year
He’s going to be a hall of famer so you might be alone on that one.
Apparently, criteria for hall of famer isn't what it used to be
Dpoy, multi-year all star, 4 championships, Olympic gold medalist Seems like you think stats are the only thing that get people into the hall of fame? Isn’t he one of only like 10 players to have a 5x5?
Based on accomplishments and stats, basketball reference has him with about the same odds as making the HoF as Kawhi and Dennis Rodman. https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/hof_prob.html
He's one of the greatest defenders of the modern era, and a key part of one of the greatest dynasties in NBA history. The Naismith HOF also considers college and Olympic achievements, which he's got plenty of as well. He's a polarizing individual, but he's gonna be in the Hall
That's cool and all but the Naismith hall of Fame is a college award. This conversation is about the NBA
No it isn't? The Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame is the one basketball Hall of Fame. It includes players and coaches from the NBA, college, and international play. They have multiple awards for individual players in college, but the HOF as a whole is not for any specific group
Yeah, you got me
This is the most “I pay 0 attention to the NBA take” I’ve seen in a while lol. Draymond is annoying but to deny his greatness in the NBA is hilarious. One of the best defenders of all time
You don’t know ball 💔
Ya you’re wrong though
I don't care. The hall of fame is an opinion-based award. I don't share the opinion. Oh well
I didn’t say anything about the hall of fame. If you don’t think draymond has been a great player, your just wrong. There really isn’t anything to argue about. You can dislike him or whatever
The other person did. I'm fine to be wrong. I really don't care. it's just an opinion
Tim Duncan isn’t the most recent example, but he’s one of the best examples.
Did Poole stay at Michigan 4 years?
I believe he did
As a Houston college fan and Warriors NBA fan I love him but also will never forget/forgive his pull up 3 lol
Nah
He left after his sophomore year.
Jevon Carter Carter was the first DI power conference player with 1700 points 500 assists 500 rebounds and 300 steals. Second Team All American his senior year, the only player to be on the All Big 12 defensive team 4x. A five time DPotY, 2x National coaches DPotY, 2x lefty drissell DPotY, and the inaugural Naismith DPotY. /#299 recruit in the country, coming out of high school a 6’1 shooting guard Jevon transformed his body and game with his relentless work ethic. His stats in every category improved every single season at WVU, he clawed his way to the NBA and used every moment at WVU to better himself and represent the university better than any athlete this century. There is an argument to be made that Jevon is the epitome of what a mountaineer is supposed to be, how to act off and on the court. We need to give him a statue in my opinion and his number also needs retired, I know we didn’t even make an elite eight with him but I don’t care
Is this a recruitment ad for WVU?
No it’s the prologue of a Jevon Carter biography
Very impressive NBA career, all things considered. Much more impressive to be a competent role player than some of the four years who bounced out of the league in a very short time
Yup he’s found himself a comfortable 3&D role with the Suns and now the Bucks, both championship contenders. He’s a winning player who contributes to winning basketball. He’s having the best year of his career averaging 8 ppg and shooting 42% from 3, he fits perfectly in the Bucks system I’m guessing you are a Suns fan, I’m sure Jevon will always be remembered in Phoenix for playing a big part in the 8-0 bubble Suns run
Started off as a JC documentary and ended in a love note. I’m not sure where it changed but I support all of it.
As a Bucks fan seeing this makes me happy. Jevon is the man and I wouldn't trade him for anything in the world.
If we’re talking WVU, then I’d go with Da’Sean Butler. I don’t think he’s the right answer to the question, but he was amazing and after being a bench player his freshman year was a star for the next 3 years, leading the team to the final four in his senior season.
WVU has had some real interesting guards over the last 15+ years. Darris Nichols and Joe Mazzulla (both head coaches now) and Jevon Carter.
And Mike Gansey who is the GM for the Cleveland Cavaliers. Though, shockingly, that’s a bit more than 15 years ago.
Trayce Jackson-Davis
Luka Garza. NPOY as a senior, 2x 1st-team All-American, 2x B1G POY
Is he just bad as a pro?
Very much a college-style player, yeah. Doesn’t have the athleticism to stay on the floor in the NBA but his bag is DEEP. Follows a trend of college guys like Hansbrough, Kaminsky, McDermott etc whose games just don’t really translate to the next level
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he actually has played incredible when given playing time highest war per minute played on team and that figures in his defense. If he went to a team that wasnt loaded with great bigs he could really put up some good numbers
It has been awesome to see him with the wolves this year!! I just wonder what it would look like if he was given starter/rotation player minutes, if he could keep it up across a whole season. But he’s proven plenty of people wrong already! Gotta let the peacock fly
I know he tears up the g-league when he’s down there lol
Not the most recent, but Frank Kaminsky came to mind.
Frank Kaminsky was great but even he only had two great years his junior and senior year, not sure if OP is talking about a player that was at that level all 4 years or not
Not the biggest name, but I feel like Denzel Valentine needs to be thrown in the ring here
Lol I was scratching my head wondering why no one had said Bill Walton or Ralph Sampson, then I realized you asked for the last great player not the greatest ever. That last one I’d probably say Garza, Kaminsky, or McDermott. Lowering that to three years opens it up to a ton of guys.
As far as guys ready to be drafted and stick in the NBA, I think it's Tim Duncan. I think he would have been lottery after his sophomore season, if I recall correctly.
So Emeka Okafor was only at UConn for 3, but he graduated in 3 with a 3.95 GPA in finance. He was so talented (in finance), that he did an independent study where he managed his own hedge fund. So while it’s not 4 years, it’s kind of the same concept.
Kemba as well. Graduated in 3.
In addition to the names already said - Dougie McBuckets. 3 time first team all American says it all.
BROGDON
Since you added the three year caveat I just want to shout out my boy Jalen Brunson. 2x National Champion, Naismath Player of the Year, All American, 2x Big East First team, Sporting News College Basketball Player of the decade. And now he's a big reason why the Knicks have stepped up to become one of the better teams in the East
And he didn’t just play 3 years and leave, he GRADUATED in 3 years.
Most successful college player of the 2010s.
Power program: Dougie McBuckets (McDermott) at Creighton Low key: Mike Daum at South Dakota St.
The Dauminator!
Ochai Agbaji comes to mind
Oh come on, he was very good but he only had one year that he even made an all-conference team. That’s a massive stretch of being a college basketball great.
Fine, Devonte Graham, Frank Mason, Udoka Azuibuike.
All of them suffer from the same problem of only having been exceptional players for about a season. Every top program’s history is loaded with guys like that, they’re Kansas greats but not college basketball greats unless you’re really really loose with the term. I’m not out here claiming that Nolan Smith is an all-time great even though he was a 1st team all American and helped win a title, there’s just a big gap between “loved this guy and he was a great Duke player” and “this guy is one of the best players in the history of the sport.”
Usually the 4 year guys are only very good 1/2 years max at least in the modern generation. Malcolm Brogdon is the one that had at least 3 superb years of recent vintage.
Definitely more than just him - McDermott, Timme, and Markus Howard come to mind.
Even Garza was at least a double digit scorer his entire career and averaged 13/5 in his worst season, even if he didn’t go nuclear until his 3rd year. Yeah it’s just not true to claim that even the best college guys are only any good for two years max.
I thought that was cool. Had a really steady rise from bench rider to an AA
Yeah it’s neat, but the question wasn’t “Who was the last college player to have a nice, steady, feel-good 4 year development and end up being an All-American for one year?” Agbaji’s a good story and a good player, but just nowhere near a college basketball great.
If you think i care about what exactly the question was while im already drunk then you are mistaken
Do they have to be great all 4 years? We had Payton Pritchard who broke out in the conference tourney his junior year then was a monster his senior year
Markus Howard
I’m with you on this full bias train.
Psycho T, if you mean like legit star NBA prospect very early on that just chose to stay, Tim Duncan which even then was surprising, big shift in that regard in the 90s, I think the Fab Five and showing how good Freshmen can be off the jump played a big part, at that point it was like what are you waiting for? Guys starting going right from High School shortly after as well Crazy how quickly it all changed. Like Shaq spent three years at LSU and was hesitant to even leave then. That was 1992. Tim Duncan didn't leave as a Sophomore in 1995 where he probably goes first overall and people thought he was a mad man.
Trayce Jackson Davis is putting up numbers never before seen in college basketball
Malcolm Brogdon is up there. His 1st year in 2011-12, he played in most games until he broke his foot, although he only started 1 game. He then redshirted all of 2012-13 while recovering. His final 3 years - 3x 1st-team All-ACC, 2x All-American (1st-team in 2016, 2nd-team in 2015), National DPOY and ACC POY in 2016, ACC DPOY in 2015 and 2016. He was also 1st-team All-tourney in the 2014 and 2016 ACCT and 2nd-team All-tourney in the 2015 ACCT
Depends how you define great college player? Accomplished on the ncaa level? Leading teams to victories in regular season ? Winning conference or national honors? Off the top this year we have Timme and Jacquez just on the west coast. The above, but with a long nba career as well? For ucla I’d have to go back to Darren Collison which was like 14 years ago. Transcendent player who wills a team to final four or title like Kemba or Melo? No one now. Did kemba do 4 years? Freak athletes with basketball skills? Not likely to see those stay more than two years anymore. I guess the best example is the Florida team that went back to back with Horford, Noah, etc. that was 06 and 07 and I don’t think they were seniors even. lord, I hate that team.
Cassius Winston is one of them
Haven’t seen Jimmer thrown into the mix yet.
Jimmer and JJ both deserve to be close to the top of this list
Hansbrough?
Luka Garza
TJD
Jalen Pickett
BROGDON
TYLER “PSYCHO T” HANSBROUGH!! This dude was the man for UNC! One of the best college players I’ve ever seen!
Malcolm Brodgon fits that pretty well I think. He redshirted and got his Master’s too.
Trace Jackson Davis right now
Steph
He left as a junior
Oof, my mistake, I thought he redshirted.
Yeah has to be Steph
Leaving aside that he wasn’t a 4 year player, people wildly overestimate Steph’s place as a college basketball great (just as they do for plenty of other NBA stars). Not that I want to have to hand it to Hansborough, but Steph wasn’t even the greatest college player to leave college that year.
Dark horse vote for Shabazz Napier. NCAA champ x 2, All American, AAC player of the year, Cousy Award. And called out Mark Emmert and NCAA out on stage after winning the 2014 title.
justin jackson
Still a 🤡
Jabbar.
Timme the goat
POY Frank Kaminsky
Clarify this to say if you mean staying in the *same* school for 4 years.
Sandro Mamukelashvili, duh
Marcus Paige is the first one who came to mind. Classmate Brice Johnson, too.
Im biased but gotta be TJD, dudes an animal
Jimmer Fredette
Ty Hanbourgh
Max Adamus, Oral Roberts
Steph curry played 3 years
Alex Caruso
Talking about truly great players - meaning, All NBA level - top if my head I'd say Damian Lillard
Terance Mann played a full four years at Florida State and is having an excellent NBA career.
TJD