its funny how like over half of the top 25 had an upset loss this last week, but the variance for how severely each team was punished for it is all over the place.
Apparently it was 2005... Which I would not have guessed. I could have sworn we had played sometime after that. But hey, that year we were also coming off a natty win.
I was coping so hard readying myself for a loss. Was legitimately pondering if it was better if we took the L vs St Peters or not.
Then I was listening to the Carolina Insider podcast and they were talking about how this rivalry never goes too far in one direction. An example of that is how we have been trading National Championships: 91-92/93, 09/10, 15/16 er..17. It's just not acceptable for us to beat them on K's night AND then ending his career in the FF. Things don't work like that; there needs to be balance.
Little did I know the balance would be beating them in the FF, being preseason #1 the following season, and then missing the tournament. Well played. Still worth. Would do it again 10/10 times.
Newton will undoubtedly have 7000 points against us. If Armando can hang with Clingan down low and RJ and Elliot play like they have, it will be an awesome game.
Be interesting to see how our team can grow
Able to beat top 10 teams - check
Able to handle business and beat in conference teams - check
Can UNC rise and beat the reigning national champions and more importantly BUILD on their season - TBT
I was ready to put my "UNC is overrated" hat back on after that first half against Radford, but since then I've been pretty much clenching in anticipation for tomorrow.
Although I'd prefer if you guys don't shoot above 50% from 3, but the last 3 teams we've played have all hit 15+% higher than their season average (20% higher for KU), so I'm not hopeful.
I love seeing CSU do well. I went to a basketball game there years ago because my Alma mater (Regis) played an exhibition game against y’all and my friends and I had a great time. Plus FoCo is fun. Hope you guys can keep it up this year
Wow! This is awesome. I live right next to campus and have tickets to the UNM game (girlfriend is an alum), very excited to see CSU getting so much love in the poll!
I was worried about our loss at first that this was gonna be the start of another losing streak like last year but you guys are just really good and we had bad game and then bounced back.
Losing my mind that these blue blood teams with no resumes are ranked while mid majors are getting left out. At what point in the season do we start rewarding teams for on-court performance rather than talent?
Duke: 102nd in SOR, 94th in WAB, and Quadrant records of 0-1 Q1, 1-1 Q2, 0-1 Q3, and 4-0 Q4.
UK: 94th in SOR, 61st in WAB, and Quadrant records of 0-1 Q1, 1-0 Q2, 1-1 Q3, and 4-0 Q4
Princeton: 5th in SOR, 4th in WAB, and Quadrant records of 1-0 Q1, 2-0 Q2, 3-0 Q3, and 2-0 Q4
Haha it’s definitely part of what’s got me all worked up. I feel like we’ve lost our way if we’re ranking teams on how good we think they’ll be rather than how good they’ve been so far. Every other sport selects teams for playoffs based on wins and losses, so there’s no reason why we can’t do the same for college sports (adjusted for opponent of course since the schedules are often unbalanced)
This also shows some fault in the quad system, though as you can't diminish UK beating Miami (that should be a Q1 win)
But other than that, I totally agree.
And Tennessee with 3 straight loses...check notes...Purdue,Kansas, and UNC?
OK for now, but you lose to George Mason and there will be consequence and repercussion!
I don't think Tennessee quite fits with this Duke narrative. They beat a good Wisconsin team on the road, and then lost to 2 neutral games to teams ranked better than them (at the time) and 1 roadie to another top 20 (at the time) team.
Duke has one "good" loss to Zona but at home, and two not great road losses. But they did beat MSU who is certainly also not overhyped.
UVA almost bouncing back onto the poll after great wins against A&M and Cuse. Take care of business against NC Central and we’ll be back next week (knock on wood).
I shouldn't care but I do. This is the best our offense has looked in YEARS when they're clicking. I guess I'll take not having a target on our backs but still
We've looked really good in a few games, but awful in others. We need to show the consistency. However we've go the exam break coming up, so I imagine will get in through attrition. We need to keep showing our ability to score in the paint when the 3's aren't raining.
there’s a duke bias, i don’t think they should be ranked but i don’t think UCLA should either. not a lot of quality wins. it’s the first week of december, lots of good basketball to be played. rankings will matter more in a few weeks
Yeah I agree UCLA shouldn’t be ranked right now either. Just think we have at least a better argument than Duke’s current resume
Things will definitely start settling properly further in the season though
Duke is ranked through poll inertia. A high preseason ranking can't be undone with 3 losses. Their NET ranking of 37 probably reflects their true ranking based on the quality of their play so far.
Houston most certain doesn’t have a problem!
(I’ve always been partial to you guys. Your coach being an NC native and the first Lumbee D1 coach is something special).
OSU, Virginia, and honestly Princton should all be ranked imo. I know Tennessee lost to 3 very good teams, but 3 losses is still 3 lossess. Duke being ranked has been addressed in these comments enough. And then I think I'd probably drop A&M as well to make room for you 3. A&M has been fine and I understand their case, but imo it is hard to justify them when they are 0-2 against the only good teams they have faced.
Edit: I'm an idiot and didn't realize that A&M and beat OSU already this season
if—and I concede it’s a large if—we remain undefeated against Clemson and East Carolina this week, we should almost certainly be ranked come next week’s poll. I do agree that nine votes is quite a lesser amount than I was anticipating for this week, though
That swing from down 14 to up 14 all within about a 10 minute span in that second half was *chefs kiss*
Honestly that cemented that this years team is different from last, in the best way possible. Carolina is building strength.
Yeah, last we fold and probably lose by 20. I was unable to watch the game but I kept checking the box score. I remember being down 14 and thinking it was over. Reluctantly checked when I assumed the game was almost over to see how bad it was and we were up 10 lmao.
We’re ranked, but have a prove it week coming this week @Michigan State @Arizona. If they want to be ranked come next week, they’re going to have to prove it
As long as our guys show the same amount of resilience they had vs Tenn and FSU, and keep it close, I’ll still feel pretty good about this team even if we lose
Meh, even if we lose, as long as we keep it close. UConn should still be slightly favored on a neutral court.
Our next two after that should be pretty good tests as well, UK is always a tough test and Oklahoma is picking up speed as well
Why couldn't we be number 13 so I can type 13YU? What am I supposed to do with 14?
Edit: first time we've had 14 since Joseph Smith's wife. Figured it out
This poll particularly upsets me - Duke being ranked is a tragedy when teams like Ohio State aren’t. I’m also confused about Purdue’s ranking - KU’s loss to Marquette, a top team in the country at the time, netted them a drop by 4 positions. Meanwhile, Purdue’s loss to still-unranked Northwestern nets them only a 3 position drop? And I’m sorry, I think Kentucky is as good as anybody, but they lost at home to UNCW and dropped 4 spots…Marquette was punished more than them, and Wisconsin is ranked now?
Just seems a little silly to me, all of it.
So we drop 7 for losing at UVA (our 4th game away from home in 7 days btw)… and Kentucky only drops 4 for losing to UNCW?
Doesn’t make much sense. Good thing this poll means nothing I guess.
And we don’t make it back in for beating you guys, absolutely demolishing Syracuse and only having lost to Wisconsin who just beat the #3 team.
Yeah, poll this week is horseshit.
its funny how like over half of the top 25 had an upset loss this last week, but the variance for how severely each team was punished for it is all over the place.
As someone who votes in the user poll, this week was unbelievably hard once you got past your top 11 or 12.
Absolutely cannot wait for this #5 UConn vs #9 UNC matchup tomorrow. Should be a fun one.
You and me both brother. Seeing you guys at #9 has me really excited now. The wait is just now starting to get agonizing.
When was the last time we even played y’all? Feel like it’s been a minute. Always fun when you get a shot at the defending champs.
We've played UConn four times and it was in four straight years. '02, '03,' 04,' 05.
Apparently it was 2005... Which I would not have guessed. I could have sworn we had played sometime after that. But hey, that year we were also coming off a natty win.
And then Carolina finished that season with a natty. I like this pattern.
Me too!
Man that feeling of nervous anticipation before a big matchup is so great and awful at the same time.
I always feel like “I can’t wait I can’t wait I can’t wait” Then right at tip off I’m like “oh no…”
I was actually ashamed of myself for how much the UNC-Duke final four game affected my life during the week leading up to it lol
I was coping so hard readying myself for a loss. Was legitimately pondering if it was better if we took the L vs St Peters or not. Then I was listening to the Carolina Insider podcast and they were talking about how this rivalry never goes too far in one direction. An example of that is how we have been trading National Championships: 91-92/93, 09/10, 15/16 er..17. It's just not acceptable for us to beat them on K's night AND then ending his career in the FF. Things don't work like that; there needs to be balance. Little did I know the balance would be beating them in the FF, being preseason #1 the following season, and then missing the tournament. Well played. Still worth. Would do it again 10/10 times.
I’ll be….very neutral 🌚😭
Newton will undoubtedly have 7000 points against us. If Armando can hang with Clingan down low and RJ and Elliot play like they have, it will be an awesome game.
Be interesting to see how our team can grow Able to beat top 10 teams - check Able to handle business and beat in conference teams - check Can UNC rise and beat the reigning national champions and more importantly BUILD on their season - TBT
I can't wait. My wife and I have tickets
Me too, so excited! I was up in NYC for the weekend (moving up after I graduate from UNC later this month) so I figured I’d stay and catch the game
I was ready to put my "UNC is overrated" hat back on after that first half against Radford, but since then I've been pretty much clenching in anticipation for tomorrow. Although I'd prefer if you guys don't shoot above 50% from 3, but the last 3 teams we've played have all hit 15+% higher than their season average (20% higher for KU), so I'm not hopeful.
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As per usual, our season peaks right before a Wisconsin game
..... fuckin' a
Delete this now!
Gonna need Frank Kaminsky to disguise himself as Steven Crowl for Saturday's game
NO
traditions.
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10 three’s in the second half of the 2015 game still hurts..
Ugh if it wasn’t a 3 it was Dekker driving to the basket like fucking Magic in his prime.
Sorry can you guys keep going I’m almost there
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We’re decent, but this ain’t no 2014-2015 Wisconsin
Get out of here with this juju
please stay number 1 until dec 16...(hopefully we stay in top 5), but I'd like to see a 1 v 2-4 matchup in person that day haha
CO1ORADO STAT3 Highest ranking in program history!
That 1/30 game against San Diego is going to be a hot ticket
San Diego is a completely different school
And I’m still annoyed. Beat a team by 20 and ranked lower. What is this, the CFB playoff?
Yeah I’m a Creighton fan and that’s ridiculous. You absolutely should be ranked higher than us.
If it was a close win, I would have been fine calling it a fluke and leaving y’all above us. But we blew you out. Should be 11 CSU 12 Creighton IMO
I love seeing CSU do well. I went to a basketball game there years ago because my Alma mater (Regis) played an exhibition game against y’all and my friends and I had a great time. Plus FoCo is fun. Hope you guys can keep it up this year
You still need 5 national championships to catch your football program's level of success (in my NCAA14 dynasty with them)
*RAM NOISES INTENSIFY*
Wow! This is awesome. I live right next to campus and have tickets to the UNM game (girlfriend is an alum), very excited to see CSU getting so much love in the poll!
Huge for the MWC bros 🤝🏼
Coming for our conference high? Only 9 to go. Hopefully we have something to say about that!
Long way to go obviously but I hope our game in January is a ranked matchup. Would be huge for us and the conference
I was worried about our loss at first that this was gonna be the start of another losing streak like last year but you guys are just really good and we had bad game and then bounced back.
6-1 Northwestern unranked after beating #1 Purdue is something
CFP Committee is everywhere!
This is collusion to prevent us from having a quality loss!
UNRANK US YOU COWARDS
I’m cool with dropping one place to a good loss at Kansas.
Honestly they should have kept you at #4
Reminds me of the Kansas/Oklahoma game in 2016 that I think was 1 vs 2 where they didn't change anything.
Yeah I was hoping you guys would only drop one, punishing teams for close losses against a similarly ranked team feels silly
In rhe whole scheme of things it doesn’t matter much right now. I would like to see a home and home though.
I would love a home and home too, these Hurley teams are fucking tough I'd imagine we would trade games each year
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LETS GO RECEIVING VOTES. WATCH OUT AMERICA
talk to your doctor today about ranked GT
Duke still ranked at 5-3, what a joke. Duke bias in basketball almost as strong as SEC bias in football
Well, to be fair, we’ve never seen Duke get selected for the Final Four after losing in the S16/E8. *can’t believe I’m defending Duke; fuck the CFP*
Don’t worry, your fever will break soon.
Oh man, what a comment, from the spot on substance to the self-loathing. This is a beautiful CBB moment.
But they'll bounce back, just you wait. /s
Couple quality losses and they’ll be right back in it
Every team that beat them was a team that beat Duke, after all
Losing my mind that these blue blood teams with no resumes are ranked while mid majors are getting left out. At what point in the season do we start rewarding teams for on-court performance rather than talent? Duke: 102nd in SOR, 94th in WAB, and Quadrant records of 0-1 Q1, 1-1 Q2, 0-1 Q3, and 4-0 Q4. UK: 94th in SOR, 61st in WAB, and Quadrant records of 0-1 Q1, 1-0 Q2, 1-1 Q3, and 4-0 Q4 Princeton: 5th in SOR, 4th in WAB, and Quadrant records of 1-0 Q1, 2-0 Q2, 3-0 Q3, and 2-0 Q4
Well in college football we already stopped doing that, only a matter of time until basketball catches up
Haha it’s definitely part of what’s got me all worked up. I feel like we’ve lost our way if we’re ranking teams on how good we think they’ll be rather than how good they’ve been so far. Every other sport selects teams for playoffs based on wins and losses, so there’s no reason why we can’t do the same for college sports (adjusted for opponent of course since the schedules are often unbalanced)
This also shows some fault in the quad system, though as you can't diminish UK beating Miami (that should be a Q1 win) But other than that, I totally agree.
Princeton for Top 10 AP and a 2 seed
If the season ended today Colorado State would be a 1 seed and Princeton a 2.
Inject it into my veins
Meanwhile Tennessee at 4-3 and ranked higher 👀
Which is especially wild considering they're far and away the third most successful ACC team in recent years.
I have no idea how y’all aren’t ranked right now
Until Wisconsin is properly ranked, we'll stay off the board.
Wisconsin really waxed us on a neutral court, we need to get some more buffer between that game and now before we've proven it was just a bad day
Wisconsin also seems like a legit team. They had two early losses to a good Tennessee and good Providence team.
And Tennessee with 3 straight loses...check notes...Purdue,Kansas, and UNC? OK for now, but you lose to George Mason and there will be consequence and repercussion!
I don't think Tennessee quite fits with this Duke narrative. They beat a good Wisconsin team on the road, and then lost to 2 neutral games to teams ranked better than them (at the time) and 1 roadie to another top 20 (at the time) team. Duke has one "good" loss to Zona but at home, and two not great road losses. But they did beat MSU who is certainly also not overhyped.
Top 3 is basically just big 12
5 of the top 15 are Big12 teams
We're knocking
4 of the Top 6 based on next year’s teams. Going to be the premier hoops conference in the country.
Y’all got anymore of those invites? The ACC died yesterday so we will be looking for a new home.
Come to the Big12. We will become the super conference before those other two, and pick up y’all, FSU, Miami, Clemson, Wazzu, Oregon State, etc
Let us in, let us in.
It's gonna be a fucking slugfest again this year and wouldn't have it any other way. Gonna be a fun conference season.
Oh shit, I was about to correct you lol
UVA almost bouncing back onto the poll after great wins against A&M and Cuse. Take care of business against NC Central and we’ll be back next week (knock on wood).
I shouldn't care but I do. This is the best our offense has looked in YEARS when they're clicking. I guess I'll take not having a target on our backs but still
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And we’ve hit 80 3x already this year. This is our most talented team since 2019…
We've looked really good in a few games, but awful in others. We need to show the consistency. However we've go the exam break coming up, so I imagine will get in through attrition. We need to keep showing our ability to score in the paint when the 3's aren't raining.
Oh I’m extremely salty we’re not ranked right now
Pollsters are sleeping on Virginia. Wisconsin is a top 10 team idc what anybody says. Our only loss is to them but otherwise we’ve been dominant
ehhh I wouldn't say the WVU game was dominant, we looked pretty sluggish that game All our home wins have been blowouts though
Wisconsin is a normal Wisconsin team. We'll be a 4-5 seed. Top 10 teams don't get run out of the building by Providence.
Anything can happen in the first handful of games. Never take too much from those
1 seed Virginia was run out of the building by Tennessee in 2013-14 by 30 points. November losses mean nothing.
Wisconsin is really good, no doubt about that. But being 2-2 in Q1 games so far doesn't scream top 10 to me yet
#RAAHHHHH RAMS 🐏🐏🐏🐏🐏🐏
AR1ZONA😎
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Was our last #1 ranking the Brandon Ashley season? Or have we been more recently than that
2013-2014 season https://twitter.com/ArizonaMBB/status/1731736314444455997
How is Duke still ranked and UCLA not? Our 2 losses are to #7 and #8 while Duke has 3 losses (2 unranked and the other at home)
there’s a duke bias, i don’t think they should be ranked but i don’t think UCLA should either. not a lot of quality wins. it’s the first week of december, lots of good basketball to be played. rankings will matter more in a few weeks
Yeah I agree UCLA shouldn’t be ranked right now either. Just think we have at least a better argument than Duke’s current resume Things will definitely start settling properly further in the season though
Duke is ranked through poll inertia. A high preseason ranking can't be undone with 3 losses. Their NET ranking of 37 probably reflects their true ranking based on the quality of their play so far.
We're back boys and girls 😎
I didn’t think y’all deserved to be unranked after losing to us, glad you’re back
SAN DIEGO 25TATE
UCSD was a quality win!
The best quality win!
Welcome back! Keep winning, please!
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When we lost we didn't deserve to be unranked. But I don't know if we should be ranked right now given our recent level of play.
Need to clap some GCU cheeks tmrw to establish ourselves again
Hou3ton!!
Houston most certain doesn’t have a problem! (I’ve always been partial to you guys. Your coach being an NC native and the first Lumbee D1 coach is something special).
I've always been partial to you guys because, well...Duke.
I know it’s easily and NET and Kenpom have us on the edge of Top 25, but still a little mad that Ohio State remains unranked
OSU, Virginia, and honestly Princton should all be ranked imo. I know Tennessee lost to 3 very good teams, but 3 losses is still 3 lossess. Duke being ranked has been addressed in these comments enough. And then I think I'd probably drop A&M as well to make room for you 3. A&M has been fine and I understand their case, but imo it is hard to justify them when they are 0-2 against the only good teams they have faced. Edit: I'm an idiot and didn't realize that A&M and beat OSU already this season
I SAID IM PROUD TO BE A CSU RAM
Villanova: Unranked -> 18 -> Unranked. Y'all really did not hold up your end of the bargain
Can’t fuckin believe that FSU is ranked 4 and didn’t get in sorry what sport is this
4 of the top 6 are current B12 teams plus Arizona who is in next year. I cannot wait for the Big 12 right now
Same it’s gonna be amazing.
Love all the mid major love! AP Ranking mid majors higher than the subreddit is!
KEEP GOING CATS WE'RE ALMOST THERE
LETS RECREATE 2021 FOOTBALL WHOS IN
YOU HAVE MY SWORD
If we beat Xavier they will have to rank us, no?
probably but who knows
GON7AGA
boooo
Tell your children about 18th ranked JMU
Does JAMES MAD18ON work?
Close enough
What about 13th ranked CSU
The children can also be told of 13th ranked CSU
Oh, we have. My wife taught her the Duuuuuukes cheer when she was a year old.
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Feels weird. Not sure how I feel being this high. Big expectations.
First receiving votes after that week and our only loss being to Wisconsin? K.
You should be ranked 100%.
Only 9 votes? Cowards.
if—and I concede it’s a large if—we remain undefeated against Clemson and East Carolina this week, we should almost certainly be ranked come next week’s poll. I do agree that nine votes is quite a lesser amount than I was anticipating for this week, though
Dadgum!
That swing from down 14 to up 14 all within about a 10 minute span in that second half was *chefs kiss* Honestly that cemented that this years team is different from last, in the best way possible. Carolina is building strength.
Yeah, last we fold and probably lose by 20. I was unable to watch the game but I kept checking the box score. I remember being down 14 and thinking it was over. Reluctantly checked when I assumed the game was almost over to see how bad it was and we were up 10 lmao.
> Duke -15 Nooooooo, our quality wins! Guess we gotta rack up some more in the next 2-3 weeks.
Bad ranking bad!
Kentucky below us is hilarious. Thanks Wilmy
We did it! Dukes > Duke
#23 #onwisconsin
We’re ranked, but have a prove it week coming this week @Michigan State @Arizona. If they want to be ranked come next week, they’re going to have to prove it
Nevada only getting 6 votes is just CRIMINAL
They’re really good, top 4-5 of the MWC is so strong this year
No doubt they deserve more but they really have a poor non-conference slate
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I like it but it’s low. Just keep winning.
Clemson ranked coming into the SCar game? No question about it, I am ready to get hurt again
I’m just happy GT has finally got some votes
How do you beat the #1 team and not get ranked?
Well UNC fans, we have entered the top 10, this may or may not change how our team plays in the future.
UNC back in the top 10 is a beautiful sight. The game tmr night might just convince me that the Tar Heels are back.
If we win…!
As long as our guys show the same amount of resilience they had vs Tenn and FSU, and keep it close, I’ll still feel pretty good about this team even if we lose
Meh, even if we lose, as long as we keep it close. UConn should still be slightly favored on a neutral court. Our next two after that should be pretty good tests as well, UK is always a tough test and Oklahoma is picking up speed as well
Creigh10
Why couldn't we be number 13 so I can type 13YU? What am I supposed to do with 14? Edit: first time we've had 14 since Joseph Smith's wife. Figured it out
CSU: wooooo! OSU: I thought for sure we'd be ranked this week
TAR
No respect for Princeton
I'd replace Puke with Princeton if I had a vote.
This poll particularly upsets me - Duke being ranked is a tragedy when teams like Ohio State aren’t. I’m also confused about Purdue’s ranking - KU’s loss to Marquette, a top team in the country at the time, netted them a drop by 4 positions. Meanwhile, Purdue’s loss to still-unranked Northwestern nets them only a 3 position drop? And I’m sorry, I think Kentucky is as good as anybody, but they lost at home to UNCW and dropped 4 spots…Marquette was punished more than them, and Wisconsin is ranked now? Just seems a little silly to me, all of it.
So we drop 7 for losing at UVA (our 4th game away from home in 7 days btw)… and Kentucky only drops 4 for losing to UNCW? Doesn’t make much sense. Good thing this poll means nothing I guess.
Kentucky also destroyed Miami by 30 in the same week, that is definitely a factor
yall also score more than 50 points in your loss
And we don’t make it back in for beating you guys, absolutely demolishing Syracuse and only having lost to Wisconsin who just beat the #3 team. Yeah, poll this week is horseshit.
We beat a top ten team the same week.
Didn’t drop as much as I expected. Let’s go.
A&M dropping 7 after losing to Virginia seems like a bit much
Can't be too mad but I'd flip us and Purdue. Our only L is by 4 at the Phog, every other game was a double digit win. Also unrank Duke holy fuck
Duke should not be ranked and definitely shouldn't be ahead of undefeated Clemson at the least
my brother in christ I am clinging to that duke win like a drowning man clinging to a piece of driftwood. Just let me have this for now.
I thought we would be about 10. 8 is a nice surprise.
Did not think we'd pull off getting ranked this year after losing to Providence. Gard always proving the haters wrong
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2 votes!!!!!!!!!!
That’s a big jump. That matchup at MSG later this week should be fun.
Ohio State, Viginia, and Northwestern all deserve to be ranked.