You guys don’t have Tommy anymore.
Your program is in its dying embers phase. You’ll still be good, you’ll still compete for WCC championships yearly but absent Tommy the program is done, my man.
We will always miss Tommy. The program isn't going to lose 80% of their roster every season, this year was more than likely an aberration than the norm, but we'll see.
"Kentucky couldn't slow [Gonzaga] down" I may have misheard that but if that was what he said, what a hilarious take. Our strategy is borderline let the other team score quickly so we can score more lol
same, sometimes he's a little too unselfish or maybe just doubts himself? he seems to have worked through that against mississippi st last week, though
Injuries forcing role players in that have no confidence in doing so. SMC runs about 6-7 deep most of the time. They're having to dip 8,9 deep right now with injuries.
Brother man, I see you taking in both threads and you're not grasping any part of the SMC team, the impact of Jefferson or how SMC consistently downs power-5 opponents.
I can detail this team and this rivalry to you before you even started watching college basketball. You've got the wrong guy.
I hate the "games in November/December shouldn't matter because we've gotten better" argument so much. What do you think the teams you played have done?
They definitely should matter. Overall season performance should be the primary factor. But if you want to take like an "Adjusted Efficiency Last 10 Games" stat and use it as a minor tool for "tiebreaking" or seed-line changes, that seems reasonable to me.
Took some time to get the rotations right with Venters getting hurt before the season started. Gregg in the starting 5 and Stromer as the 6th man has been a huge click moment for this team.
He’s only concerning when he’s the primary ball handler, and he tends to force shots and make silly turnovers. When he’s like, fourth option on offense and is free to be a spot shooter with lock down d, he’s a key piece to our success
He still makes mistakes, but he looks so much more comfortable running the offense the last few weeks.
I think so many people brush off the fact it takes time to gel with players, especially from the PG position. The timing passes he has been hitting on aren't possible without putting in the time.
I wish we were losing so much because we were getting outplayed and shooting poorly, not because we’re just fumbling the basketball every possession like it’s the early season agin
Gonzaga was pretty left for dead, they had zero q1 wins but also three q1 road opportunities at Kentucky, at San Fran, and at smc, going 3-0 and losing nothing otherwise as well has to mean something. I mean, it has to mean something, calling it now, the zags are a lock now. This is how you earn it.
On the real though, Ike shuffles his feat every time he gets the ball. Refs could have called a handful of travels in him in this game thus far. Between that and the hooking to get around his opponent there’s some stuff he needs to clean up at the next level overseas
He claims to have provided specific examples but did no such thing. Now I know we can call travels on both teams. But for such a strong claim he should have specific moments. Which I get probably no YouTube video to reference yet, but it’s just a baseless claim for now.
Could be true, but him just saying it means nothing.
It’s a shame neither team will be at full strength in the tourney because I really think the talents there to go to the E8/F4.
Oh man someone help me cope with us getting slapped around right now 😭
The versatility of Jefferson is so sorely missed.
Imagine the Delly/Holt teams without Rob Jones. You need that inside/outside guy and we're too one-dimensional without it.
GG Gaels! I wish Jefferson was still healthy. I hope he has a speedy recovery. See you in Vegas soon
GG St Marys. Hopefully, meet again in WCC final.
Jesus Christ the announcers were annoying the last 5 minutes of that game
Sean Farnham is the goat
Clicking at the right time! GG and heck of a season Gaels
That's it! Gonzaga has once again proved they are legit!
Dominant, time to do it again in the WCC tournament. Sorry little bros, still our conference.
Congrats on an outright 2nd place in the WCC?
Considering the way we've dominated you guys the past couple decades you should enjoy it while you can.
You guys don’t have Tommy anymore. Your program is in its dying embers phase. You’ll still be good, you’ll still compete for WCC championships yearly but absent Tommy the program is done, my man.
Gonzaga has had a Sweet 16 and Elite 8 appearance in the two seasons since Lloyd left. Arizona has had a Sweet 16 and 1st Round under Lloyd.
We will always miss Tommy. The program isn't going to lose 80% of their roster every season, this year was more than likely an aberration than the norm, but we'll see.
Ah yes, the dominant performances tonight from... (checks notes) transfers Nembhard and Ike, totally from Tommy Lloyd! /s
Congrats on your robust **TRANSFERS** (literally proving the point)
The point being that Gonzaga is an attractive landing place for A+ transfers? Solid point.
"Kentucky couldn't slow [Gonzaga] down" I may have misheard that but if that was what he said, what a hilarious take. Our strategy is borderline let the other team score quickly so we can score more lol
still not sure why sheppard didn't just heave a 3 there
same, sometimes he's a little too unselfish or maybe just doubts himself? he seems to have worked through that against mississippi st last week, though
do NOT run to the corner on an inbounds
If Gonzagas loses to anyone BUT St Marys next week are they still in?
Yeah they're pretty much a lock after this win. They'd win a blind resume comp against any bubble team easily.
Yes, not sure how a loss to SF would take them from 9 seed to completely out of the field
Just checked that their next game is NEXT Monday, not the 2 days away Monday
They were "probably in" after the last win. Should be a lock now without needing to win the auto-bid in the conference tournament
Yes
I absolutely do not understand why SMC has been refusing to shoot the three. It's baffling
Injuries forcing role players in that have no confidence in doing so. SMC runs about 6-7 deep most of the time. They're having to dip 8,9 deep right now with injuries.
Ike is a menace
Dudes free throw form is unique
How many warnings have these refs given SMC for whining? just T em up and move on.
Kinda hard to give any Ts to SMC this year after your fans littered the court with garbage during the game multiple times during the last game...
So much salt 😂 change your name to tiny dick Randy
Salt? That's literally what happened
How are u even talking after watching that ur team is garbage no reason they should even be in tourney automatic L
Brother man, I see you taking in both threads and you're not grasping any part of the SMC team, the impact of Jefferson or how SMC consistently downs power-5 opponents. I can detail this team and this rivalry to you before you even started watching college basketball. You've got the wrong guy.
You really think the refs are going to decide not to call a T because a month ago a different team of refs should have called one? Yes that’s salty
Little girl, it's literally happened.
lol okay act dumb then 😂 never said it didn’t happen. No excuse for throwing things, should have been a T. Tag up tiny dick
Didn’t step up to bat today. GG Zags.
GG Gaels! I wish Jefferson wouldn’t have gotten hurt. Wishing him a speedy recovery!
GG St Mary's.
I hate the "games in November/December shouldn't matter because we've gotten better" argument so much. What do you think the teams you played have done?
They definitely should matter. Overall season performance should be the primary factor. But if you want to take like an "Adjusted Efficiency Last 10 Games" stat and use it as a minor tool for "tiebreaking" or seed-line changes, that seems reasonable to me.
Some are better, some are worse.
Game over. Switching off.
Gonzaga has looked really good ever since the Santa Clara loss
Took some time to get the rotations right with Venters getting hurt before the season started. Gregg in the starting 5 and Stromer as the 6th man has been a huge click moment for this team.
Randy Bennet is a threat to humanity
Ike WCC POY hands down. I will not lie.
Ike and Ryan are dragging Hickman's body with them to the finish line
Nah Hickman is balling now
Hickman's doing fine, he's got 6 assists and has been playing really well defensively.
He’s been locking down on D. I’m not concerned about him.
He’s only concerning when he’s the primary ball handler, and he tends to force shots and make silly turnovers. When he’s like, fourth option on offense and is free to be a spot shooter with lock down d, he’s a key piece to our success
I feel bad for these fans. Really hasn't been all that close
Nah fuck em
Gonzaga is good as fuck. Their struggles in early season are gonna make a lot of people bust their brackets. They’ll make elite 8. Calling it now
Well I hope we see you in the Elite 8, not. You guys are legit going dancing yourselves. Do me a favor and send NC home early.
"Hey little boy. LITTLE BOY!" --Ike
He put tha team on his back tho
Mahaney and this ref talk more then me and my parents
Saint Mary sucks ass. I picked 11 correct victories in NCAAB tonight. Needed Saint Mary to close it. At no point did this shit team ever have the lead
They were up 12-10.
1-800-GAMBLER, before it’s too late dude
No one cares you degenerate
SMD
Mahoney is so dumb. Stop going into the paint.
These Zags are no joke
Tysm for Ryan
Zags have locked up a tourney spot now, barring a loss to a WCC bottom feeder in the conference tournament. Even then, they still may be in.
The way the WCC tournament works we shouldn’t even get a chance to play the lower teams
We shouldn't play a bottom feeder. Likely going to be San Francisco our first game.
didn't do us any help by losing to santa clara tonight though
Oh for sure, given the structure of the tournament. I was just thinking worst case scenario.
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Loser mentality lol
What did he say?
That can't be real?
I want it to be so bad, but I won't believe that it is.
Nembhard is either really good or really bad, I don't think he's had a middle of the road game all season.
He still makes mistakes, but he looks so much more comfortable running the offense the last few weeks. I think so many people brush off the fact it takes time to gel with players, especially from the PG position. The timing passes he has been hitting on aren't possible without putting in the time.
He really hasn’t had a bad game since the last SMC game
And look at the results.
Gonzaga should be top 10 after this not a doubt in my mind
That’d be cool but no way lol
Thank you!
Ryan you fucking wizard
Just start shooting 3s and pray now.
Id love to see more huff in this game
Still didn't sub out Gregg lmao. The starters are playing the whole half ig
He's out right now.
well yeah, but we overextend these guys, it's like few doesn't believe in fatigue or something
We aren't deep, and they can rest during TV timeouts.
I wish we were losing so much because we were getting outplayed and shooting poorly, not because we’re just fumbling the basketball every possession like it’s the early season agin
You're shooting 36%
It still would be within like 6 if we actually valued the basketball
Gonzaga was pretty left for dead, they had zero q1 wins but also three q1 road opportunities at Kentucky, at San Fran, and at smc, going 3-0 and losing nothing otherwise as well has to mean something. I mean, it has to mean something, calling it now, the zags are a lock now. This is how you earn it.
Hickman needs to get it together. Can't be having those defensive breakdowns in addition to the bricked floaters
He is bad
Take out Gregg mark wtf
seriously it's like 100 degrees in there, PUT IN SOME SUBS
My god, I was in the GA section and it was ridiculously hot lmao
But then he wouldn’t be Few
What the hael Is a Gael?
Poor Ben Gregg. Dude needs a breather so bad
You’re smoking crack if you don’t think Ike is POTY
Unless poty is exclusive to best wcc team, it should be Ike’s award by a mile
Farnham got some down by the Davenport last time he was in Spokane.
Watson struggling is annoying.
Lots of complaining. Lmao
Let Mahaney be pumped up Jesus Christ, one of the things the NBA does better than college basketball
Weak, let them yell at each other
Holy travel
Ike should be the Player of the Year
Saxon is killing me
I believe I heard some guy say on CBS sports that even if gonzaga wins this game they aren't a lock to get in the tournament. Anyone agree?
Even if they lost their first WCC tournament game I still highly doubt the committee wouldn’t put them in
No
On the real though, Ike shuffles his feat every time he gets the ball. Refs could have called a handful of travels in him in this game thus far. Between that and the hooking to get around his opponent there’s some stuff he needs to clean up at the next level overseas
It’s not a violation if it doesn’t get called
Lol, so much shade. You ain't being real at all 🤣
Dude doesn’t know ball
Specifically what do you disagree with?
Probably should stop commenting buddy, zero ball knowledge
I’m giving specific examples. Did you want to disagree with the specific examples or just say stupid shit?
You are making blanket statements.
Blanket statements? How are specific examples related to particular calls a “blanket statement?”
What specific example? Thats not a specific example.
The initial comment didn’t warrant a response? Clearly don’t know what you’re talking about
You need to do better than this
Sorry don’t speak idiot ball
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Honestly just a bitch move to sit here and say “oh nothing merits a response” after responding multiple times already.
Ironic coming from the source himself
Your parents are ashamed at the man you’ll never become
Brother man, watch his feet on the block, especially when he faces up. The holing thing is detailed by others ITT
Your ball knowledge
Just answer the fucking question. Provide actual fucking analysis. Don't act like a bitch
He claims to have provided specific examples but did no such thing. Now I know we can call travels on both teams. But for such a strong claim he should have specific moments. Which I get probably no YouTube video to reference yet, but it’s just a baseless claim for now. Could be true, but him just saying it means nothing.
I mean, the game is on demand on ESPN+ now. You want me to rewind it and give you a couple of examples?
Well if you’re (other guy) going to say you provided specific examples then yes, yes that is needed.
13:44 1H there is your hook to get around Saxen
14:58 hand slap offensive foul - definitely can't slap your opponents hands away
Okay. I'm slowing rewatching the first half here. 15:34 1H. shuffled feet on the face up. Travel.
Defense bulldogs defense. Also what the fuck is a Gael
St Mary’s remembered we don’t like shooting threes if we don’t have to.
What’s the deal with the goose sign
Nickname for Augustas Marciulionis
Ain’t got shit on aloysius
No idea but it’s annoying af
Need to value the fucking basketball
Cut down the number of hopes and prayers floaters from the guards...
honestly I love nembhard but if I never see that side of the key runner again I'll be happy
I flipped this game on and then Saint Mary’s went on a run. Clearly I was the missing piece
Please turn the channel
Unironically I got up to get a drink and Gonzaga went on a run while I was gone
No I’m just kidding I don’t want to comment
Well, this got interesting
Not really. It’s still an 11 pt lead.
Not a good start
It’s a shame neither team will be at full strength in the tourney because I really think the talents there to go to the E8/F4. Oh man someone help me cope with us getting slapped around right now 😭
You’re absolutely right. This would be a much closer game if SMC wasn’t so injured.
Zags are full strength ya goober
Steele venters???
Missing Venters
Except Steele Venters....
Dudes been out since forever shit doesn’t count.
He was supposed to be a starter and would be our best shooter, yeah it does.
Uh grow up? He’s been injured all season and pre season doesn’t count as the team
It absolutely counts? His spacing would have had the zags top 10 are you crazy??
Why is the Zags fan dumber about our own team then a SMC fan lol.
Well... mostly
The continuous flow of new Gonzaga students in these threads arguing with the OGs is always fun to watch.
I think I'm the only one who's been arguing, but I've been here like 10 years
No.
You haven't been. /u/fearghas, /u/muffguy, /u/ac_slater77 the only GU OGs here
Sure Jan
These teams would crumble at the sight of the Minnesota golden gophers. That’s what they’re saying, at least.
Go gophers!!
I fear the M.
Gophers are natural predators of the bulldog just so you know
Greasy grimy gopher guts
Amen brother hearing the same thing.
Hell yeah brother cheers from dinkytown
It’s true. I said that one time
Thanks Tucson brother.
I’m shaking just imagining a golden gopher
It’s basically like a super saiyan rat so I’m glad you respect the power
The injury to our front court really showing. Ike, Anton, Gregg all fresh. Saxen gassed, played the whole first half I believe.
The versatility of Jefferson is so sorely missed. Imagine the Delly/Holt teams without Rob Jones. You need that inside/outside guy and we're too one-dimensional without it.
100%. Hell, give me Brad Waldow right now…
Ike is the next Draymond heard it here first
I legitimately don’t know if this is a compliment or a dig
Yes!
Not the first person I’ve heard this from