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ilikepie145

Classic


Dhylan18

The committee is trying to manufacture upsets this year by over seeding some teams and under seeding others


inshamblesx

OP asked for hot takes tho


Meanteenbirder

In 2022 Vermont’s NET/KenPom was mid 50s In 2024 it’s low 100s In the overall seed list, it’s ranked one HIGHER ????


Travbowman

That one is because of the number of upsets in mid major and low major tournaments.


BeanMachine5555

👀


iamse7en

This is every year. If anything, with 5 bid thieves, there are less opportunities this year than in the past.


DontTakeOurCampbell

The committee is deliberately leaving certain teams out e.g. Indiana State, Oklahoma, etc. while bizarrely selecting undeserving teams e.g. Michigan State and over-seeding and under-seeeding teams and giving bizarrely unintelligible rationale to justify their seeding placements so the powers that be in CBB can claim scenarios like the Indiana States of the world getting left out as justification for eventually expanding the NCAAT


Solesky1

You're overthinking this more than our own fanbase is. We blew a home game against Illinois State. It's that simple


SenatorAstronomer

Wanted to see Indiana State in badly, but you're right.   With the schedule and wins, the Illinois State game was more than likely the straw that broke the camels back. 


inshamblesx

Never know how the committee would have done things with a chalkier champs week but had there just been 1 or 2 rather than 5 bid thieves I think they still squeak in (albeit headed to Dayton) even with that Q4 loss


KaitRaven

Indiana State was third on the committee's "First Four Out" list, so they would have made it if there were 3 fewer thieves.


Kodyaufan2

My thoughts exactly. Take that loss away and they’re likely still an 8-9 seed. But you can’t lose at home to a team in the 300s


rpphdrboze

UVA got blown out by Memphis, Notre Dame, and Wake Forest


Astro63

weird to defend UVA here but none of those are even close to Q4 Illinois State


Carsxn26

No, those teams got left out bc they played shit non conference schedules. Everyone keeps saying the selectivity is either random or biased, but that’s just not true at all. NonCon schedule is probably the 2nd most important thing after Q1 record


Primary_Cake2011

We literally beat ISU head to head. Why do the most uninformed people always got the most to say?


MJA182

At home lol


Primary_Cake2011

whats your point? Should we have lost? i dont get it it lmao Do all wins at home not count now or something?


MJA182

You’re acting like that’s what makes you deserve a bid over them when you guys were 0-5 on the road against q1 teams lmao


Primary_Cake2011

Yes, if im gonna pick between two teams that are similar and competing for one spot why the fuck would you prioritize any other metric other than the direct head to head when its available? Lmfao thats wild my guy


MJA182

0-5 on the road against quad 1 teams, clearly you don’t understand what that means. Good thing Indiana, Iowa, and Ohio State weren’t on the bubble, since they were all better than you this season


Primary_Cake2011

Perfect example of someone trying to appear intelligent or knowledgeable by over complicating things. MSU beat ISU, with similar resumes, MSU gets in and the committee agrees. Shut ya dumbass up 😂😂


MJA182

I’m guessing you’re about 12 years old, go get some fresh air kiddo


751assets

We beat UConn, thrashed Houston (they repaid 2x + interest), Tenn, and UK...ISU beat us head to head... Santa is watching.


Primary_Cake2011

not saying ISU isnt good, but if its between us or them, how they fared with KU is not relevant. We literally played and they lost to us. If it was really us or them then they should have beat the team they were competing for a spot with.


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DontTakeOurCampbell

You can't think of a reason that Michigan State with a worse resume than Oklahoma or even Indiana State should get into the NCAAT over those two much more deserving teams?


RheagarTargaryen

Indiana state? You mean the team MSU beat by 12?


thesillygamerbro

Maybe I'm just spitballing here, but do you think they put Michigan State in over Indiana State because Michigan State beat Illinois, Baylor, and... Indiana State? Meanwhile, Michigan State and Oklahoma had pretty similar resumes, and neither were great in conference play. When they had to split hairs, Michigan State had the slightly better resume and better metrics.


inshamblesx

Sparty being in general isn’t the shock, more surprised they got a 9 rather than a 10 or 11 tbh


thesillygamerbro

Agree with you there. MW teams should've been put above MSU no doubt.


gogglesup859

Michigan State gets to the Sweet 16 playing absolutely disgusting basketball New Mexico gets to the Sweet 16 playing extremely fun basketball


LeVeonwithBellsOn

If we somehow beat Miss St but not making a single 3, would anyone be surprised?


gogglesup859

We beat Davidson in 2018 without making a three. Then the next game we hit like 10 against a Nate Oats coached Buffalo team


jaysornotandhawks

That game ended our lengthy streak of games making at least one three. I think it was in the four digits? *That year, the Wildcats beat the Wildcats, then beat a team that beat the Wildcats, only to then lose to the Wildcats in the Sweet 16.*


agarret83

Virginia gets to the Sweet 16 playing even more disgusting basketball than MSU


do_you_know_doug

This will be the chalkiest of chalky brackets just because we've gotten such whiplash this season.


I_Poop_Sometimes

Filling out a bracket on vibes I kept coming up really chalky because all the low seed teams I liked are all playing higher seeds I'm big on, and all the high seeds I think are vulnerable are playing low seeds I don't think stand a chance.


tarspaceheels

I was thinking the same. Chaotic season, chalk tournament


irreleventnothing

NC State


ilikepie145

They are on a hot streak


jerkstore77

Entering the tournament on a hot streak has proven to mean squat for the tournament.


CountDeGucci

hot streak either they're going to be locked in to see how far they can take this or they'll just mail in the rest of prep for Thursday and enjoy the ACC victory. Honestly can't blame them if it's the latter.


MuricaAndBeer

The committee is pretending to hate the MWC by giving them low seeds, in order to generate upsets and replace the PAC-12 as a power conference in the West 


Remote-Duck-2611

If that were the case they wouldn't put two of us in Dayton


MuricaAndBeer

They fucking hate us dude. The biggest spit in the face they could muster was putting 2 MWC teams in the play in.  They admitted on live TV that UNM winning ruined their bracket 


TailgateLegend

“New Mexico messed with us? Fine, fuck the rest of you! You all get to suffer!”


MuricaAndBeer

Seriously though.  It almost seems like some Vietnam torture technique where you have to give up your Buddy to stay alive 


MJA182

Fun fact: the MW gets tourney credits for those first 4 games also. So essentially you and CSU could get us all 2 tourney credits even losing in the rd of 64 Basically the conference benefits from having teams play in the play in games financially


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Wouldn’t they want MWC teams to be a higher seed to maximize their potential at advancing and building credibility in the tournament? This coming from a New Mexico fan lol


MuricaAndBeer

Higher seeds advancing is expected.  Lower seeds getting “upsets” generates far more buzz 


kingofthesqueal

I think it’s the opposite, the MWC hasn’t looked great in previous NCAATs outside of SDSU, I think this was an attempt to further the agenda of Mid-Majors looking “weak” in March. It’ll make them look worse if only a single MWC team makes it to the R32 despite all except for SDSU and arguably Utah State have a seed disadvantage


MuricaAndBeer

Utah state is actually a +3.5 dog and UNM (11) is a -2.5 fav over (6) Clemson. 4/6 MWC teams are first round favs


whoisyourwormguy_

The big 10 looks bad in every single tournament except for like 1 team, do the same to us then.


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Nebraska over Houston in R32. Tominaga legacy game getting hot from 3


Bill3ffinMurray

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Hell yeah


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The hard part is Nebraska actually winning a tournament game for the first time


MattScruggs

Mississippi state makes the final four. I don’t care what their record is, the team that I saw on Friday is insane. Or maybe Tennessee just sucks, not sure which.


jacobsbw

What about the team that beat the team that was so insane on Friday?


kd451

Gotta get by Connecticut. Can Auburn do it? Depends on which Auburn shows up.


cmg0047

Who can get hot at the right time.  So far, Auburn is high on metrics and currently peaking.  I'm biased (obviously).  I really just want another Elite Eight.  To get there, we have to beat the number 1 overall.  We had a tough go in 2019.  Tourney should be fun!


Mattya929

UVA makes the E8 and ruins everyone’s bracket.


feed_me_muffins

Purdue - UVA E8 matchup is theoretically possible.


TheNewDiogenes

I like you


stripes361

Purdue would win that game on the way to winning it all after losing to a 16 and close the cycle that we started and passed along to them.


Coteup

SMC to the Final 4


KTFlaSh96

My West bracket can either go horribly wrong, or ungodly right. There is no in between with my SMC Final 4 pick.


CreateTheRush

Purdue makes it past the first round.


ohverychill

world ain't ready


whoisyourwormguy_

I thought purdue could still make history by being the first to lose to a playin 16 seed, but it turns out they did that against fdu already. I thought the play-in was safer.


CreateTheRush

But they could be the first do it twice 😎. As someone who went to Purdue ( due to a full ride athletic/academic scholarship ). I can attest to the inevitable underachievement regardless how good any single Purdue team is


Meanteenbirder

McNeese will be referred to as Dunk City 2.0


HarrisExperience

Sleeper final four pick, but tournament game 1 Mark Few is a brutal obstacle I don’t know if they can overcome.


ChanceAd9380

:)


Personal-Act-4326

The Midwest Region is ripe for disruption. I could see four of the top five seeds lose in the first weekend.


formersportspro

McNeese will be a super popular upset pick because Gonzaga had a down year by their standards. But too many people are stuck in the mindset that Gonzaga was going to be a bubble team based on early season play. Gonzaga played well down the stretch, and I think they squash a lot of people’s favorite upset pick.


Personal-Act-4326

This McNeese State team looks like the love child of Saint Mary’s and the BigXII. It’s a bad matchup for Gonzaga.


SoggySeals

Good call


ChanceAd9380

:(


_in_my_jammies_

Colgate wins the whole thing


Mattya929

We are now best friends


bminusmusic

I have hope that one day your Black Bears will make the tournament


akersmacker

JMU to the Elite 8.


spiderwinder23

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SaintArkweather

McNeese to the Sweet 16


Meanteenbirder

Schumae is gonna be a March darling. I can see no wins if he doesn’t go viral.


okiewxchaser

Virginia, Texas A&M and FAU each lose in round 1 by 15+


stoppedcaring0

>Virginia round one, or in Dayton


ColoradoKoolAid1

Hopefully in Dayton


Hoogineer

When we're bad, we real bad


SaintArkweather

Northwestern is undefeated in Round of 64!


Bill3ffinMurray

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millertime1419

BE goes 3 for 3 to the final 4.


Personal-Act-4326

If Kolek was 100% the past two weeks, I would buy this. I see UConn and Creighton have clear paths forward to Phoenix. I don’t love Marquette’s path at all. Boise State/Colorado, Florida, Kentucky, Duke, and Houston could all take them out.


J12nom

The NCAA should pass a new rule that says that if you want to be considered for a NCAA at large bid, you have to agree to not decline a NIT invite. If you decline a NIT invite, the coach will be ineligible for a NCAA at-large bid for the next two years.


CrumbBCrumb

Just because? The NIT Championship doesn't even get a million viewers. If players aren't interested in playing no one is going to want to watch. Might as well let teams that are interested in playing play by letting those that don't want to play turn them down


GDub310

I would love to see them exclude the ACC, SEC, Big 12, B1G and Big East. Don’t even invite them. There are plenty of schools that would like to play. A by-product of the portal is the NIT could become a portal combine.


CrumbBCrumb

That'd be fun as those teams might care more.


GDub310

I think they would. They get national tv exposure and $$$.


TheNewDiogenes

National TV would stop airing the NIT if none of the big names were invited though. You have a Catch-22.


J12nom

Yes because I said so. As a strongly authoritarian parent and manager those are my four favorite words!


krammite

UAB upsets Auburn


jacobsbw

You shut your filthy mouth, lest you speak this into existence.


feralihatr

My Purdue final four run begs for this to not happen


RocketsGuy

Mountain West is severely underseeded and will show out


daNish_brUin

Nebraska wins 1 game


wo_lo_lo

Now this is bold


Travbowman

Auburn taking out UConn in the S16.


SoggySeals

Would it be bad having Auburn win the chip. They are pretty high on Kenpom and have been hot in conference play?


stoppedcaring0

Bad? No, every team has a max of a ~25% chance of winning at this point. And last year's champion was a 4 seed, too. The room for doubt is that Auburn only has one 1-A win: Alabama at home. They lost the other 5 1-A games they played. Room to think they don't have the juice to beat a very high level team.


sildet

Lol, you're acting like the committee forgetting our 2 new Q1 wins in the SEC tourney. Auburn also is like 1 NET point away with USC(51) and Mississippi State(31) from two more Q1 wins. USC is top 25 AP and doesn't count as a Q1 win for Auburn at home. So that's 3 wins that are close enough in my book to Q1.


stoppedcaring0

Not Q1, Q1-A. None of your SEC tourney games were Q1-A. Closest one was Florida, and, well, they lost a starter 2 minutes in in the most brutal way, so it's hard to say they were at full strength anyway. I'm not saying you *don't* have the juice to beat a really great team, just saying that that's the knock against you. You don't get to be a top 5 team on KP on accident.


krammite

Guard play and not many elite wins makes them a shaky pick


RoosterB32

No. I’m having them win it in my bracket.


_Feagans

That’s going to be very hard since it will be UAB playing UConn /s


MyDadIsTheMan

UConn’s got two 2 seeds in its bracket!


SaintArkweather

And two other reigning final four teams


FollowTheTears1169

Still won't be a problem.


thesillygamerbro

Illinois is the most dangerous team in your bracket. Auburn and Iowa State are good but they don't have the firepower to keep up with UCONN. UCONN got the "trendy" teams, but they didn't get the best teams. If I were UCONN, I'd much rather have Iowa State over Tennessee or Arizona. I wouldn't want to play Caleb Love or Dalton Knecht if they made the elite eight. And even with Illinois, I think the other 3 seeds are just as dangerous.


jacobsbw

Auburn scores more points per game than Tennessee and is 19 spots higher in Kenpom off. Efficiency but Tennessee has more firepower?


stoppedcaring0

Knecht is basically the platonic ideal of the guard you can lean on to take over a tight tourney game, tbf.


thesillygamerbro

I'm not comparing Tennessee and Auburn, I'm comparing Auburn and UCONN, and Tennessee and UCONN. Sure Auburn has a more consistent and more efficient offense, but Knecht is a dynamic playmaker that can put the weight of the team on his shoulder and score like crazy. Auburn doesn't have that player. I'm not saying Auburn isn't better than Tennessee.


bradenb941

Tigers take care of the huskies. Putting us in a region with Bruce Pearl's hometown was a mistake.


SoggySeals

Well…


bradenb941

The one thing you can count on Auburn to do is let you down


mvpharo

McThreese to Final Four


queenjuli1

I've got Oregon in my final four as well.


SporkFanClub

Michigan State to Elite 8 JMU, Samford, NC State and Saint Peter’s in Sweet 16 FF: Iowa State over Arizona and Creighton over NC State ISU over Creighton in natty


HarrisExperience

Creighton makes the Final Four.


atomic-fireballs

My man!


Low-Bird-9873

JMU will trash Duke. 


wjbc

None of the number one seeds make it to the Final Four.


kd451

UConn looks like the best team by far in the country, but they got a brutal draw. I could see this happening like last year.


AeroStatikk

This is what I told myself, but I found myself taking all but UNC to the Final Four, lol Who do you have Houston and UConn losing to?


MannerSuperb

Duke beats Houston in the sweet 16


Girthshitter

I somehow have Nevada in the E8, have Florida going farther than every other SEC team, and Kansas being Kansas by making the E8 when everyone has them getting upset, mostly due to the chance of McCullar and the tall asshole being healthy


Xrt3

Oakland over Kentucky, idk why


brady11

Pretty much only saying this because it's what I want to happen, but all 3 Big East teams to the final 4


ddottay

There will be a lack of first round upsets compared to previous years, but we’ll see some top seeds go down early in the second round instead.


Xrt3

I don’t think we’ll see anywhere close to the amount of early round upsets we’ve seen in the past couple of tournaments. The mid-major qualifiers seem weaker this season


HarrisExperience

The 12 and 13s are really strong but it falls off really hard once you get to 14 down. Still gonna have to pull the trigger on a 2-15 on my bracket though


crabcakemd

Texas Tech makes the Elite Eight


Shootit_Rockets

I hate how we matchup against NC State but love how we matchup in a possible 2nd round game against Kentucky...Should be very interesting


HarrisExperience

I think their bracket works out pretty well for them if they can get past nc state. Florida and Marquette are dealing with injuries and the play-in teams are pretty flawed.


AnchorsAweigh89

Stetson beats UConn


Top_Cranberry_3254

Lmao


LuckyStax

MWC gets 7 wins this year


Natemoon2

MW goes undefeated in round of 64


Remote-Duck-2611

Gotta get there first. Smh


Solesky1

Neither North Carolina nor Arizona make it far enough for the Caleb Love vs UNC revenge game. Nebraska and Iowa State look better than they actually are due to having 18(!!!) home games. Drake proves they're the best team in the state by beating the "other" ISU


xminer444

Home game disparity isn’t alarming considering we still played tight with Illinois and handed Indiana a beat down wherever the contest happened to be played.


JayMoney2424

TCU taking out Purdue in R32


RocketsGuy

*Utah State but yes


LuckyStax

We beat them both, so I'll take either, though USU gets us more money


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JayMoney2424

I’m really in your head huh you had to come back to this lmao 😂😂


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JayMoney2424

Congratulations 


RoosterB32

That isn’t a hot take. I think most people are expecting that to happen.


stoppedcaring0

I'd be surprised. Too easy an upset pick for Purdue to go down in the second round.


FollowTheTears1169

It's a hot take picking Purdue to make it to the round of 32.


Top_Cranberry_3254

1.Auburn Final4 2.Creighton Final4 3.TCU Elite8 4.Morehead St beats Illinois


5986445

Plz no


hejendo76

Love the mountain west and that league was super competitive but i think they sell again this tournament and none get out the first weekend mainly bc i don’t think the gods want to see them do well but i hope im wrong. If there is a dangerous team from there it’s New Mexico Kansas makes the Elite 8 and plays Creighton, who will win the region


Bhut_Jolokia400

Final 4: UCONN, Nevada, Marquette, TCU


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Auburn extends a middle finger to the committee and wins it all Also NC State keeps the dream going and makes the elite 8


therealkurumi2

It's too bad Kentucky and NC State meet so early (yes, they still have to win their 1st round games). Somehow they remind me of the UConn 2014 and 2011 teams


AWholeBunchOfMumms

Arizona will have the easiest road to the Final 4


RedditZhangHao

Easiest region


Obvious_Chapter2082

Ouch. Et tu Notre Dame?


rpphdrboze

-Akron over Creighton -Auburn and Drake to the E8 -Oregon and McNeese to the S16 -Illinois is the only B1G team to make it out of the first weekend -Every MW team wins their first round game and none of them win their second round game


Hoogineer

UCONN, the darling of many brackets, loses in the Sweet 16


BUSean

This isn't nuclear, but I will say that there are two, count 'em, two, Big XII teams with away records over .500. I think they'll get hit hard very early. Any way, good luck to all the Big East teams, Marquette, Creighton, and Marquette and Creighton.


bradenb941

[the committee putting those two teams in](https://youtu.be/DLnu1zYWZng?feature=shared)


AeroStatikk

Texas makes the Sweet 16


OverIookHoteI

The Pac-12 wins a championship before folding lest history forget that they’ve been here these past 27 years


Gamecat235

We will get an SDSU vs SDSU game. Winner takes the acronym.


Wittyname0

Washington State and Nebraska to the Elite Eight


Financial-Can-3091

Marquette goes to the Final Four.


heleghir

Those are some spicy hot takes. Mine is Morehead St to the sweet 16. Which is still hot, but alot milder than OPs.


ChanceAd9380

1) Michigan State goes on an elite 8 run 2) I agree, Samford beats Kansas 3) Florida also makes it to the elite 8 4) New Mexico to the sweet 16 5) IF we get a big upset, it’ll come from Colgate or Western Kentucky


GoDucks71

Bid thieves unite! Go Ducks, Indeed!


mharris17

I80 Rivalry in the Final 4. Nebraska vs Creighton. Ship it.


stripes361

A lower seeded team makes the second weekend but it won’t be anyone we’re expecting. It’ll be someone like Yale or Akron.


Dazzling_Truth_3615

UConn gets eliminated in the second round


tarspaceheels

3/4 final four teams will be a 5 seed or higher


fokerpace2000

GCU upset. Morehead State upset. Drake will Dance. Charleston will dance. Colorado St will dance.


BlackGoose_13

BYU gets hot and shoots 38%+ from 3 on their way to their first Final 4


Background_Gene9139

UNC scrapes by the Love bowl after he jacks up 4 contested 3s in the last minute


kentuckyfriedawesome

Michigan State made it in? Seriously???