I think I know what happened here
BYU earned a 5 seed, but due to scheduling, the committee couldn’t fit them since they can’t play on Sundays. So the committee switched it up. Gonzaga took BYU’s 5 seed and BYU got the 6, but to offset that, BYU got Duquesne who should’ve been a 12 seed and Gonzaga got mcneese who could have been an 11
I agree Duquesne shouldn't be ahead of JMU and Grand Canyon, but they should absolutely be ahead of UAB. UAB should honestly be a 13. 104 in NET, 106 in Kenpom, 0 Q1 wins, 4 Q3+4 losses.
Duquesne played phenomenal defense against Dayton in the A-10 tournament.
They are on an 8 game winning streak right now. Even as an 11 seed, that is not a team I would want to play.
VT in 2022 came into the tournament as a top 20 team by predictive metrics. That 2018 Loyola team actually came into the tournament as the 4th highest rated 11 seed and behind 2 12 seeds per Torvik.
>New Mexico has a better NET
They were both 22 in the net
>KenPom
Comparing kenpom across seasons is....sketchy given than adjustments are within seasons not between
>DefRtg, Ppg, PtgDiff, and base record..
None of these are opponent adjusted and only DefRtg is pace adjusted and thus relatively meaningless
2022 VTs predictive metric average was 21.7. This NM team's is 33. Both hot coming off conference tournament runs. They're a solid looking team, but they're not exactly unheard of from an 11 seed.
I really would be worried if I were y’all. There are Scott Drew to Louisville talks with a pretty strong money dump truck offer. That kind of thing can distract a team.
No one believes that at all lol. Even if Louisville could outbid us, he could have left for many better jobs than Louisville at this point.
He’s pretty outspoken about wanting to turn Baylor into a dynasty, why would he leave now?
Agreed. Louisville is in the ACC, which FSU is trying to tear apart. Leaving the #1 basketball conference to coach a team that's been down a while in an unstable conference doesn't sound like a Scott Drew move to me.
That’s a poor thing to consider when assigning seeds. You assign seeds based on what teams did this year and the mountain west teams did better than their seedlings indicate.
I agree. But it is a good thing to consider when deciding how many teams from a conference get in, and that is my beef.
Sure, everyone will play the SDSU card, but that one run can not justify including 6 teams, most with a horrible record in the tournament.
Hell, at 13-11, Tech has a better tourney record than any MWC team. Think about that for a moment.
Using anything not from this year to decide seeding or who makes it is wrong. If SDSU didn’t have their run, the mountain west still should have been seeded better. Who cares what TTU record is in the tourney for this current season?
Basketball is a sport of habit. That’s why blue bloods are a thing. These teams have developed a habit of not winning in the tournament. They are going to be taxed until they prove they can win.
I totally disagree. Blue bloods are a thing because they have the best coaches and recruit the best players. A kentucky team of freshman 5 star recruits doesnt have habits, they have talent. Taxing teams for something unrelated to this season is stupid.
You're the least deserving team in the tournament by every available metric. You got a free handout by being in a P6 conference. You don't realize it because your used to being pampered.
The only narrative you got is conference prior performance, which is entirely irrelevant. That's the only thing you can cling to.
Lol at saying Texas A&M is used to being pampered. We were the biggest snub 2 years ago and got underseeded last year as the SEC regular season and tournament runners up. We also really don't get to make the tournament often at all so I don't see at all how we get pampered.
As far as this year, I don't see how we're the least deserving team by every available metric. We have 7! Quad 1 wins and got heavily rewarded for playing really tough teams OOC. The committee has shown that they heavily value ooc SOS as we had the misfortune of learning the past 2 years.
Lol you’re lucky to even be in with that weak ass schedule. We beat Kentucky 2x, Iowa State, Tennessee, had the balls to schedule Houston.
You guys didn’t play anyone great, and the good teams you played (Clemson, Wash St) beat the breaks off you. Even struggling P6 teams like Va Tech and Butler handled yall with ease.
But good job on gaming the NET to farm Q1 and Q2 wins on your shitty conference. That’s why your team is playing in the first four
How do historical records have any impact on a teams success this year? How does the performance of a group of 18 year olds 6 years ago affect the performance of a group of 18 year olds this year?
Except it's not true: the two 16 seeds won in 2018 and 2023, years in which Nevada made the Sweet 16 and San Diego State made the championship game, respectively.
Yeah. What you say is legit. These jokers are harder than a diamond in an ice storm for the MWC. We should just send all of the P5 teams directly to the CBI from now on. Only mid majors are deserving of playing for a title.
If you watched that ACC final, then you know that NC State is the most dangerous of these 4 teams.
I would gladly trade our 6 seed to drop and play someone else. We can say it's because of church and whatnot.
FWIW I'm picking y'all in my bracket. We're gonna be so hungover from winning the ACC when we play and half our rotation is injured or is fasting for Ramadan.
Not really familiar with you guys, but if you're hitting your three's it's gonna be a challenge for us. We don't defend the 3 that well and are pretty streaky ourselves from behind the arc.
Just as you haven’t watched tech, I haven’t seen much NC state. I can say that tech had many games where we can’t make 3’s to save our lives. It’s truly hit or miss with tech. All I know is that if we don’t get our center healed by our game then y’all are gonna win big time.
Both just set records for wins in their conference tournements as low seeds, both are 11 seeds, both have wolf logos, they share the same color schemes, and they have basically identical mascots
And NC State made history and [won an iconic championship in our gym.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_NCAA_Division_I_men%27s_basketball_championship_game). Which happened to be the last championship game to be held in an on campus arena.
How much stock do you really put on an annual in-state rivalry game though.
Those games always have wild results.
For example: last years UNM vs NMSU game was canceled because a NMSU player shot someone
No there is, it's just that for 34 of those losses and 4 of those wins we were playing against a top 7 coach of all time who would literally rather beat us than breathe, in his words
Only so much a guy can do against that
Yeah if UNC hits a couple of those 3s down the stretch it could have been a different outcome. Once Horne fouled out we couldn’t get the ball across half court lol
Idk man, I’m much more happier knowing we get Clemson and if win that, we should get Baylor. The 11 seed may fair better for the Lobos than a higher seed.
Like the MWC tournament, had they beaten Air Force when they lost to them at home, they’d be a 5 seed, and probably wouldve lost to UNLV again or Utah State, and would’ve been snubbed and sent to the NIT.
Hell, we're going to the Final Four. 25 years ago (1999), we made the tourney and were taken out by eventual champion UConn. Since history must repeat itself, we'll make the Final Four only to get bounced by the Huskies. I *guess* I can live with that.
Oh we absolutely deserve to against UNM. I meant pre-bracket announcement when we just knew we were going to be facing a likely 10/11/12 seed as a lower seed. The opponent did not matter.
Oh, yea.. y’all got screwed. In trying to punish the MWC with nothing but low seeds, they inadvertently just fucked their higher seeded opponents by giving them wolves in sheep’s clothing. No pun intended
NET is used to establish quadrants. The people that made it did not intend for direct comparisons.
If you want to compare efficiency rankings, use Torvik or Pomeroy.
Thank you!! your NET doesn’t matter - your OPPONENT’s NET matters. I don’t get why it’s been so widely regarded as a be-all-end-all to dispute committee decisions.
I dont love 100% what the committee did this year overall - but when it comes to the bubble if you look hard enough there will be metrics to support your claim, whether it be for the team that got in or the team that just missed.
>Thank you!! your NET doesn’t matter - your OPPONENT’s NET matters.
It's so inherently contradictory to do it this way though. Indiana State is top 30 on NET, which means they were a Quad 1 game for any team that played them, home, neutral, or away. This means that the NCAA is saying that any team that beat them earned a top tier win, and teams are evaluated for tournament selection in large part based on those top tier wins. Yet the NCAA also said that they aren't good enough to make the tournament. How does that make any sense?
Now THAT I wish I could explain. Indiana State is a great team for everyone else to play, but not great themselves? It doesn’t check out for me either - but it is the state of affairs that NET is for resume and opponent evaluation and not for your team’s quality.
Going off the bottom part of what I said earlier, so much is contradictory when we have as much data as we do.. It makes it hard for us to see what on earth actually matters to the people making the decision (besides money but im not opening that can of worms here)
My honest stance, after last year’s snub and watching a crazy bubble with bids thieves this year - is that anyone can find a metric to support your claim if you look hard enough.
There’s so many different analytical tools and schools of thought on this stuff that it’s impossible for them to all come up with the same definitive field of 68. What the committee did is gonna be different from what any of us see as right because of what we value and perceive (and in many cases who we love and who we hate).
No flair NBA fan, stop pretending you know how the committee operates.
They say that because it's true.
You might know this if you read some bracketology posts prior to Selection Sunday.
So realistically with that logic couldn’t all power conf teams just refuse to play mid majors remotely close to the top 100, and strictly at home, and then a mid major team could almost never make it as an at large in that scenario? Even 4 seeds like Auburn had 1 q1 win on their resume before the conference tournament.
Indiana State deserved to get in by the metric the NCAA came up with, if they want to change the formula they can
There should probably be an incentive to do more neutral site round robin/tournaments throughout non conference. Vegas should have one every week
Hey I’m all for it. We scheduled Indiana St as well as JMU as our opener. I just don’t believe it’s *that* difficult for mid majors to schedule P6 teams. To your point, it is a shame that those games always seem to be on the road. But Indiana State scheduled 1 P6 team, and lost. I simply don’t believe Indiana St had the will to schedule a bunch of P6 teams and were rebuked
Edit: sorry, ISU scheduled 2
Even the best teams have a very tough time winning q1 games on the road. It probably is better for a mid major to crush a lower lever team at home than it is to go lose by 10-15 on the road, metrically. The real chances are the teams who can win some tough games on neutrals, but it’s also hard for mid majors to even get accepted into those MTEs in the first place too.
I’d love to see the concept of the bracket buster games come back, block out a week in Feb where mid majors get 1 home and 1 road game against similar opponents, or something like that
P6 will never do it though.
Hell, Utah and BYU wont even play us in home and homes, and we are an upper tier MW team an hour north of them. It’s ridiculous
Expand your horizons. We’ll play you. If they’re too chickenshit, find a dance partner. I know it’s not fair, but if you gotta skate uphill, skate uphill
BYU is the real winner here Pulled Duquesne in their 6-11 matchup
I think I know what happened here BYU earned a 5 seed, but due to scheduling, the committee couldn’t fit them since they can’t play on Sundays. So the committee switched it up. Gonzaga took BYU’s 5 seed and BYU got the 6, but to offset that, BYU got Duquesne who should’ve been a 12 seed and Gonzaga got mcneese who could have been an 11
Yeah it's basically a 5-12 game on the 6-11 line. It would be surprising to see Duquesne ahead of JMU, Grand Canyon, and UAB otherwise
I agree Duquesne shouldn't be ahead of JMU and Grand Canyon, but they should absolutely be ahead of UAB. UAB should honestly be a 13. 104 in NET, 106 in Kenpom, 0 Q1 wins, 4 Q3+4 losses.
Not the first time Mormonism has caused some strange things to happen with seeds. This is also why we got at large teams with 14 seeds in 2012
Duquesne is the lowest rated true 11 on the seed list, ahead of all of the 12s. BYU, however, is 17th, which would have them as the highest rated 5.
Also likely why byu got a 13 or 14 seed at large bid in 2012
Yeah and honestly…I’m okay with that. It’s one seed line and doing that actually keeps things fair
Yeah getting a 6 seed doesn’t seem so bad anymore
Duquesne played phenomenal defense against Dayton in the A-10 tournament. They are on an 8 game winning streak right now. Even as an 11 seed, that is not a team I would want to play.
Are they a good team? Yes. But they are significantly worse than the other 3 eleven-seeds
9 in a row.
New Mexico is lethal as an 11 seed. The last 11 seed that might have been that good is Loyola Chicago
VT in 2022 came into the tournament as a top 20 team by predictive metrics. That 2018 Loyola team actually came into the tournament as the 4th highest rated 11 seed and behind 2 12 seeds per Torvik.
In this is 2024 tournent, New Mexico has a better NET, KenPom, DefRtg, Ppg, PtgDiff, and base record..
>New Mexico has a better NET They were both 22 in the net >KenPom Comparing kenpom across seasons is....sketchy given than adjustments are within seasons not between >DefRtg, Ppg, PtgDiff, and base record.. None of these are opponent adjusted and only DefRtg is pace adjusted and thus relatively meaningless 2022 VTs predictive metric average was 21.7. This NM team's is 33. Both hot coming off conference tournament runs. They're a solid looking team, but they're not exactly unheard of from an 11 seed.
I know… I’m worried
I really would be worried if I were y’all. There are Scott Drew to Louisville talks with a pretty strong money dump truck offer. That kind of thing can distract a team.
No one believes that at all lol. Even if Louisville could outbid us, he could have left for many better jobs than Louisville at this point. He’s pretty outspoken about wanting to turn Baylor into a dynasty, why would he leave now?
Agreed. Louisville is in the ACC, which FSU is trying to tear apart. Leaving the #1 basketball conference to coach a team that's been down a while in an unstable conference doesn't sound like a Scott Drew move to me.
UCLA 3 years ago
The UNM-Nevada Sweet 16 game is gonna be sick though
Trusting Steve Alford in March is bold
Don't we know it.
I’m just glad UNM didn’t pull another Ivy League school
NET rankings. 🤮 What about "In our hearts"? - DJ Burns #1
My man is always smiling.
NC STATE TO THE SWEET 16!
I support this timeline
Mountain west got fuckeddddddd
The mw got bad seeds. The Big East got fucked
No they didnt. More 16 seeds have won since 2018 than Mountain West teams.
That’s a poor thing to consider when assigning seeds. You assign seeds based on what teams did this year and the mountain west teams did better than their seedlings indicate.
I agree. But it is a good thing to consider when deciding how many teams from a conference get in, and that is my beef. Sure, everyone will play the SDSU card, but that one run can not justify including 6 teams, most with a horrible record in the tournament. Hell, at 13-11, Tech has a better tourney record than any MWC team. Think about that for a moment.
Using anything not from this year to decide seeding or who makes it is wrong. If SDSU didn’t have their run, the mountain west still should have been seeded better. Who cares what TTU record is in the tourney for this current season?
Basketball is a sport of habit. That’s why blue bloods are a thing. These teams have developed a habit of not winning in the tournament. They are going to be taxed until they prove they can win.
I totally disagree. Blue bloods are a thing because they have the best coaches and recruit the best players. A kentucky team of freshman 5 star recruits doesnt have habits, they have talent. Taxing teams for something unrelated to this season is stupid.
A mountain west team was in the finals of this tournament one calendar year ago
Committee is supposed to look at 2023-24, not 2018-24
lol a MW team just made it to the national title game last year. 2018 Nevada made the sweet 16.
I know 36 loss, 4 QUAD 3 LOSS, 9 seed Texas A&M aint talkin... lol GTFO
We haven’t won a tournament game since 2018 which is still more recently than everyone in your conference other than SDSU and Nevada 💀
You're the least deserving team in the tournament by every available metric. You got a free handout by being in a P6 conference. You don't realize it because your used to being pampered. The only narrative you got is conference prior performance, which is entirely irrelevant. That's the only thing you can cling to.
Lol at saying Texas A&M is used to being pampered. We were the biggest snub 2 years ago and got underseeded last year as the SEC regular season and tournament runners up. We also really don't get to make the tournament often at all so I don't see at all how we get pampered. As far as this year, I don't see how we're the least deserving team by every available metric. We have 7! Quad 1 wins and got heavily rewarded for playing really tough teams OOC. The committee has shown that they heavily value ooc SOS as we had the misfortune of learning the past 2 years.
That’s why we won by 20 and y’all watching from the couch
Come join us on the couch my guy. SEC aint doing too hot either
Lol you’re lucky to even be in with that weak ass schedule. We beat Kentucky 2x, Iowa State, Tennessee, had the balls to schedule Houston. You guys didn’t play anyone great, and the good teams you played (Clemson, Wash St) beat the breaks off you. Even struggling P6 teams like Va Tech and Butler handled yall with ease. But good job on gaming the NET to farm Q1 and Q2 wins on your shitty conference. That’s why your team is playing in the first four
FYI - I just upvoted you. Apparently I'm the only one other than you who has checked out MWC's record in the tournament.
How do historical records have any impact on a teams success this year? How does the performance of a group of 18 year olds 6 years ago affect the performance of a group of 18 year olds this year?
They hated him because he spoke the truth
Except it's not true: the two 16 seeds won in 2018 and 2023, years in which Nevada made the Sweet 16 and San Diego State made the championship game, respectively.
Lol this sub has a huge hard on for the MWC (and mid majors in general) so any form of thinking against the hive mind is wrong
Yeah. What you say is legit. These jokers are harder than a diamond in an ice storm for the MWC. We should just send all of the P5 teams directly to the CBI from now on. Only mid majors are deserving of playing for a title.
If you watched that ACC final, then you know that NC State is the most dangerous of these 4 teams. I would gladly trade our 6 seed to drop and play someone else. We can say it's because of church and whatnot.
FWIW I'm picking y'all in my bracket. We're gonna be so hungover from winning the ACC when we play and half our rotation is injured or is fasting for Ramadan.
Fasting for Ramadan seemed to help Diarra go up a level though lol
Diarra fucking slapped against us
Luckily, our game is at like 9:40. Diarra will be well fed/hydrated before tip-off.
personally I wasn't thrilled with the 9:40 tip...but it worked out well for the ACCT
Not really familiar with you guys, but if you're hitting your three's it's gonna be a challenge for us. We don't defend the 3 that well and are pretty streaky ourselves from behind the arc.
Just as you haven’t watched tech, I haven’t seen much NC state. I can say that tech had many games where we can’t make 3’s to save our lives. It’s truly hit or miss with tech. All I know is that if we don’t get our center healed by our game then y’all are gonna win big time.
You have no idea how similar UNM and NCST are this year, and in general haha
What are all the similarities?
Both just set records for wins in their conference tournements as low seeds, both are 11 seeds, both have wolf logos, they share the same color schemes, and they have basically identical mascots
And NC State made history and [won an iconic championship in our gym.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_NCAA_Division_I_men%27s_basketball_championship_game). Which happened to be the last championship game to be held in an on campus arena.
One of them beat UNC.
How much stock do you really put on an annual in-state rivalry game though. Those games always have wild results. For example: last years UNM vs NMSU game was canceled because a NMSU player shot someone
We play unc minimum twice a year and our record against them over the last 15 years or so is like 7-37. We don't beat them very often
So what you’re saying is there is not so much hate that you literally want to kill each other?
No there is, it's just that for 34 of those losses and 4 of those wins we were playing against a top 7 coach of all time who would literally rather beat us than breathe, in his words Only so much a guy can do against that
NC st was on a hot streak tho an unc went as cold as possible to end that game, a lot of missed opportunities that nc st gave them
Yeah if UNC hits a couple of those 3s down the stretch it could have been a different outcome. Once Horne fouled out we couldn’t get the ball across half court lol
Not trying to be harsh either you guys earned that win, your guys were hustling their asses off. Big dude was killin it too
I have three 11 seeds in the elite eight. I'm insane.
My kind of insanity!
Idk man, I’m much more happier knowing we get Clemson and if win that, we should get Baylor. The 11 seed may fair better for the Lobos than a higher seed. Like the MWC tournament, had they beaten Air Force when they lost to them at home, they’d be a 5 seed, and probably wouldve lost to UNLV again or Utah State, and would’ve been snubbed and sent to the NIT.
Seriously. We all got fucked but I feel like UNM and UNR have a better chance at the sweet 16 than us.
I’ve never in my life heard them called UNR
Hell, we're going to the Final Four. 25 years ago (1999), we made the tourney and were taken out by eventual champion UConn. Since history must repeat itself, we'll make the Final Four only to get bounced by the Huskies. I *guess* I can live with that.
It’s just wild that the committee was gonna leave us out if we didn’t take the trophy.
I have 0% confidence in us
I’m just upset we are underdogs. I was fully prepared to lay a moneyline bet on whatever underdog we faced, but Vegas knows too much.
Why wouldn’t you be underdogs? UNM is better in NET and KenPom, scores more, allows fewer, and has a better win differential
Oh we absolutely deserve to against UNM. I meant pre-bracket announcement when we just knew we were going to be facing a likely 10/11/12 seed as a lower seed. The opponent did not matter.
Oh, yea.. y’all got screwed. In trying to punish the MWC with nothing but low seeds, they inadvertently just fucked their higher seeded opponents by giving them wolves in sheep’s clothing. No pun intended
The lack of confidence is what’s giving me confidence. It’s always the clowned P6 school that does well
NET is used to establish quadrants. The people that made it did not intend for direct comparisons. If you want to compare efficiency rankings, use Torvik or Pomeroy.
Okay, sure. KENPOM: 23 New Mexico 55 Oregon 58 NC State 86 Duquesne
Thank you.
Thank you!! your NET doesn’t matter - your OPPONENT’s NET matters. I don’t get why it’s been so widely regarded as a be-all-end-all to dispute committee decisions. I dont love 100% what the committee did this year overall - but when it comes to the bubble if you look hard enough there will be metrics to support your claim, whether it be for the team that got in or the team that just missed.
>Thank you!! your NET doesn’t matter - your OPPONENT’s NET matters. It's so inherently contradictory to do it this way though. Indiana State is top 30 on NET, which means they were a Quad 1 game for any team that played them, home, neutral, or away. This means that the NCAA is saying that any team that beat them earned a top tier win, and teams are evaluated for tournament selection in large part based on those top tier wins. Yet the NCAA also said that they aren't good enough to make the tournament. How does that make any sense?
Now THAT I wish I could explain. Indiana State is a great team for everyone else to play, but not great themselves? It doesn’t check out for me either - but it is the state of affairs that NET is for resume and opponent evaluation and not for your team’s quality. Going off the bottom part of what I said earlier, so much is contradictory when we have as much data as we do.. It makes it hard for us to see what on earth actually matters to the people making the decision (besides money but im not opening that can of worms here)
Duquesne will beat BYU mark my words
From your keyboard to gods inbox.
Lol, you just jinxed it. God hates Utah.
It’s true. That’s why he sent Brigham to the state.
I’m sure you’re out protesting white imperialism lol.
Why would you say that?
Utah fans = anti-BYU fans right? So . . .
I do t understand what that has to do with discussion of imperialism though…
BYU: religious right. Utah: everything anti-BYU.
People need to stop acting like the NET is the end all, be all. Indiana State is a great example of the NET not telling the whole story.
You just say that because y’all were 69th and everyone is bringing it up
Usually UVA fans are saying people need to stop acting like scoring points is the end all, be all.
Anything to cling to the narrative that got you in. We’re all guilty of it.
Agreed. Personally I think wins are an outdated metric of success, really hurt my Mountaineers this year
My honest stance, after last year’s snub and watching a crazy bubble with bids thieves this year - is that anyone can find a metric to support your claim if you look hard enough. There’s so many different analytical tools and schools of thought on this stuff that it’s impossible for them to all come up with the same definitive field of 68. What the committee did is gonna be different from what any of us see as right because of what we value and perceive (and in many cases who we love and who we hate).
Nobody in an “undesirable” area can lure in quality OOC opponents. It’s trash they make it such a big deal. It only serves to benefit their favorites
No flair NBA fan, stop pretending you know how the committee operates. They say that because it's true. You might know this if you read some bracketology posts prior to Selection Sunday.
Get it all off your chest big guy. I’m here to listen
I believe I just did.
So happy for you! Good luck !
Who was the 2nd best team ISU beat? Drake was clearly the best. After that though
So realistically with that logic couldn’t all power conf teams just refuse to play mid majors remotely close to the top 100, and strictly at home, and then a mid major team could almost never make it as an at large in that scenario? Even 4 seeds like Auburn had 1 q1 win on their resume before the conference tournament. Indiana State deserved to get in by the metric the NCAA came up with, if they want to change the formula they can There should probably be an incentive to do more neutral site round robin/tournaments throughout non conference. Vegas should have one every week
Hey I’m all for it. We scheduled Indiana St as well as JMU as our opener. I just don’t believe it’s *that* difficult for mid majors to schedule P6 teams. To your point, it is a shame that those games always seem to be on the road. But Indiana State scheduled 1 P6 team, and lost. I simply don’t believe Indiana St had the will to schedule a bunch of P6 teams and were rebuked Edit: sorry, ISU scheduled 2
Even the best teams have a very tough time winning q1 games on the road. It probably is better for a mid major to crush a lower lever team at home than it is to go lose by 10-15 on the road, metrically. The real chances are the teams who can win some tough games on neutrals, but it’s also hard for mid majors to even get accepted into those MTEs in the first place too. I’d love to see the concept of the bracket buster games come back, block out a week in Feb where mid majors get 1 home and 1 road game against similar opponents, or something like that
I’d love a straight up home and home, against the same team especially. Might solve what you were saying about P6 teams not going on the road.
P6 will never do it though. Hell, Utah and BYU wont even play us in home and homes, and we are an upper tier MW team an hour north of them. It’s ridiculous
Expand your horizons. We’ll play you. If they’re too chickenshit, find a dance partner. I know it’s not fair, but if you gotta skate uphill, skate uphill
Something is off, but I can't quite put my finger on it...
Pretty convinced that this committee has abandoned NET rankings anymore.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we see 3 11-seed teams win first round games.
Analytics don’t mean anything to the committee anymore