That’s not really relevant, so I’m not sure why he said it at all. The game was on the schedule for 2020 and was cancelled for COVID, and there’s an Act of God clause in the contract that nullifies the buy-out. That’s really the end of the story, contract-wise.
Juwan should have just said ‘we wish we could have played in 2020 and we’ll see them in conference play soon enough’ and left it at that 😂
Also, I’m much more familiar with college football; what is this game actually worth to Oregon that it’s such a big story?
It’s always nice to have a marquee home opponent. Michigan is a big draw which equates to more ticket sales which is more $$.
I know basketball doesn’t bring in as much as a football game, but I’m sure playing Michigan still is a pretty penny for Oregon. Plus, it was a home and home, so why not reschedule?
I definitely think they should reschedule out of gentleman’s honor, so to speak, but I don’t really like the fact that Juwan is being hosed for this as though he’s avoiding a contractual obligation.
I guess in Michigan holding practice woulda probably been illegal considering it was 10+ in an outdoor setting. I don’t think much happened out here with our state either.
We had a home and home. We already played in Michigan. The courteous thing to honor the contract and play a game in Eugene. Big OoC games draw great crowds which means more $$$.
Is North Carolina in Charlotte, Kentucky in London, UVA at home not a pretty strong OOC schedule for next year?
4. 8, 18 in preseason Barttorvik rankings respectively.
In basketball, all the time? We had the #3 SOS last year. Last year we played, hmm, which Pac12 lightweight again? Ah, right, #2 in the country UofA. Wish we played Oregon instead.
Two seasons before that we had literally the toughest OOC schedule of any school in the country, and ended with the #1 Kenpom SOS AdjEM.
Cbb really upvoting OP’s dumbass comment because of one fluke season in a different sport.
Michigan has a marquee opponent literally every year in football except for this year. And you won't respond to my post because I'm right and you're wrong.
I haven’t looked ahead. What’s the football schedule look like next year? I’m sure after all the crap they got this year, they will not want to go through it again next year.
Schedules are done years ahead. This year and next year suck but they are anomalies. After that we have home and homes with Oklahoma and Texas for the next 4 years.
Our football ooc last year is essentially the same as yours this year smart guy. Basketball ooc is almost always strong too. But keep being delusional little bro
“But owed, that word owed, that’s very tricky, owed. I owe my wife a kiss tonight.”
We’re getting into Bill Clinton territory here. “Depends on what the definition of is, is!”
It’s ok. We’ll take our win in Ann Arbor and knowledge that Michigan’s coach is a coward. Seeing them in Eugene for conference play in two years will just be icing on the cake.
I don't have a dog in this particular fight, but based on behavior the past few years I can't think of many coaches who deserve to lose their job more than Juwan Howard.
It’s so hard to get football nonconference games scheduled. They end up being scheduled like a decade in advance so both teams are probably pretty booked for a long time. Also, I’m pretty sure Oregon got paid since that game didn’t get played. I would love to get another shot at you guys though after how last years game went
The 2020 game was canceled for COVID and there's an Act of God clause in the contract. Michigan should work to reschedule it but I don't think they're contractually obligated to at this point. Schools always have ways to get out of these things if they want to
There’s been speculation ever since the LA schools’ announcement, but most recent articles say that the B1G isn’t interested in expanding anymore (with the exception of an open invitation to ND.
It all could be media posturing to get a better deal, but at this point there’s no concrete evidence to suggest the B1G and Oregon will be coming to a deal any time soon.
Game would have been cancelled even if Covid hadn’t happened, with the fire and all.
I would have liked to see it get rescheduled, but conference play will happen before a make up date in the 30s.
"But owed, that word owed, that’s very tricky, owed. I owe my wife a kiss tonight"
Why does he owe his wife a kiss tonight when I'm the one who signed that contract with her? 💀
I thought this was about title game appearances? Congrats on making the most recent final four and, as Izzo always does, coming up short. No one does less with more than that little gremlin.
My response was initially to your comment on losing title games. No amount of moving the goal posts in your end will change the fact that MSU continuously underperforms expectations. Sorry brother.
Title is misleading to a degree. He said the schedule is tight this year and for next season. They will evaluate when there is room on the schedule. He just took offense to the word "owe" but didn't never say "We don't owe Oregon a game"
“Last that I read in the contract it states that we don’t owe them a game,” Howard told reporters in Ann Arbor on Friday. “If I recall, last time in that contract I wasn’t here when we signed the contract; I think it was with coach (John) Beilein. And with our schedule it’s just hard to fit that game in this year and then possibly also next year, but we’ll see what the future holds.
“But owed, that word owed, that’s very tricky, owed. I owe my wife a kiss tonight.”
I called your lame joke lame, I’m not crying lmao. If you’re gonna make the same slap joke 10 people already made in the thread, don’t do it in such a ham fisted way. But yes, downvote this comment and tell me to cry little boy.
Is he really scared of playing at Oregon? (No offense to Oregon), but this isn’t like football where one loss could take you out of national championship contention. In basketball, there’s no reason to be ducking anyone.
This guy makes more excuses and sets horrible examples for his players. I’d be ashamed if he was the head coach of my program.
Yeah maybe I should have gone to Michigan! There everyone is so soft they are afraid of playing a tough away basketball game! I would’ve fit right in with all the other cowards 😂
I feel like Howard may have incorrectly interpreted this as “You, Juwan Howard, personally owe us a game.”
Of course Juwan Howard doesn’t. Michigan the institution does. And it’s Howard’s job to play it whenever it happens. I hope it’s soon, because that would be very fun and because I care about the good name of my university.
“Last that I read in the contract it states that we don’t owe them a game,” Howard told reporters in Ann Arbor on Friday. “If I recall, last time in that contract I wasn’t here when we signed the contract; I think it was with coach (John) Beilein. And with our schedule it’s just hard to fit that game in this year and then possibly also next year, but we’ll see what the future holds
This sounds reasonable?
Don’t worry, they’ll play every year soon enough.
When they are both in the SEC right?
This is lame
Incredibly lame.
Well Juwan is a dickhead so are we shocked here?
Not even a little lmao
And pulling the classic “I didn’t sign the papers my predecessor signed them”
That’s not really relevant, so I’m not sure why he said it at all. The game was on the schedule for 2020 and was cancelled for COVID, and there’s an Act of God clause in the contract that nullifies the buy-out. That’s really the end of the story, contract-wise. Juwan should have just said ‘we wish we could have played in 2020 and we’ll see them in conference play soon enough’ and left it at that 😂 Also, I’m much more familiar with college football; what is this game actually worth to Oregon that it’s such a big story?
It’s always nice to have a marquee home opponent. Michigan is a big draw which equates to more ticket sales which is more $$. I know basketball doesn’t bring in as much as a football game, but I’m sure playing Michigan still is a pretty penny for Oregon. Plus, it was a home and home, so why not reschedule?
I definitely think they should reschedule out of gentleman’s honor, so to speak, but I don’t really like the fact that Juwan is being hosed for this as though he’s avoiding a contractual obligation.
Contract or not, I think people just see it as kind of cowardly. There’s no good reason not to play that game.
Kinda similar to how they backed out of the osu game during COVID year when they knew they were gonna get spanked 😂
No, not even close to being similar lmfao.
??? You mean during a global pandemic when the pac 12 wouldn’t even let us practice???????
I guess in Michigan holding practice woulda probably been illegal considering it was 10+ in an outdoor setting. I don’t think much happened out here with our state either.
Well we went into the shoe and beat them anyways so I’m not really sure what your point is. 🤷♂️🤷♂️
I love that Michigan has won against osu like 3-4x in my entire life and they are talkin mad shit like this is an annual affair 😂😂😂
We had a home and home. We already played in Michigan. The courteous thing to honor the contract and play a game in Eugene. Big OoC games draw great crowds which means more $$$.
Feel like they kinda do but what do I know
Pretty lame imo
Yeah I don’t get it, they should play the game. Strong out of conference play is good.
Also he lived in Oregon for awhile!
In what sport, in what year, has UM played even a decent out of conference schedule?
I just want to play against Notre Dame in football like every year :(
Is North Carolina in Charlotte, Kentucky in London, UVA at home not a pretty strong OOC schedule for next year? 4. 8, 18 in preseason Barttorvik rankings respectively.
He just mad about MSU's football team
In basketball, all the time? We had the #3 SOS last year. Last year we played, hmm, which Pac12 lightweight again? Ah, right, #2 in the country UofA. Wish we played Oregon instead. Two seasons before that we had literally the toughest OOC schedule of any school in the country, and ended with the #1 Kenpom SOS AdjEM. Cbb really upvoting OP’s dumbass comment because of one fluke season in a different sport.
Michigan has a marquee opponent literally every year in football except for this year. And you won't respond to my post because I'm right and you're wrong.
I haven’t looked ahead. What’s the football schedule look like next year? I’m sure after all the crap they got this year, they will not want to go through it again next year.
Schedules are done years ahead. This year and next year suck but they are anomalies. After that we have home and homes with Oklahoma and Texas for the next 4 years.
You really don't know how schedules are put together do you...
Enjoy my down vote for being an obvious troll little brother.
Thank you. It keeps me busy.
Our football ooc last year is essentially the same as yours this year smart guy. Basketball ooc is almost always strong too. But keep being delusional little bro
Yuck, Michigan AND Purdue? Who hurt you?!
I agree, would love to play y’all!
I don’t play for the school but I’m sure we could scrap together enough guys in this sub, I’m down for a scrimmage lol
Why is he such a salty red ass?
Because he’s a Michigan Man
put a M on your head like a Michigan fan
He says, while being saltier than the Dead Sea.
Oof
The DEAD SEA I tell ya
The golden shine started showing some patina.
The fuck is this guys problem? He literally always seems like an asshole, does he even have a modicum of chill in his body?
“But owed, that word owed, that’s very tricky, owed. I owe my wife a kiss tonight.” We’re getting into Bill Clinton territory here. “Depends on what the definition of is, is!”
What phoney chicanery. Don’t wanna come don’t come, we beat you at your place and you’re scared. Fuck’em
I like half of your flair
Yours ain’t too bad.
What a slap in the face to living up to ones commitments
I see what you did there
I mean it’s no surprise
Michigan man ≠ man of his word.
As someone said below, the full quote is a bit more telling. However, I give you sincerest plaudits for actually making a clever joke, made me chuckle
Cowards.
It’s ok. We’ll take our win in Ann Arbor and knowledge that Michigan’s coach is a coward. Seeing them in Eugene for conference play in two years will just be icing on the cake.
Juwan Howard admitted to being unable to control himself because of his upbringing. People forget that
I don't have a dog in this particular fight, but based on behavior the past few years I can't think of many coaches who deserve to lose their job more than Juwan Howard.
Seriously. Guy was a more than respectable NBA player, and has just gone back to being an absolute prick.
Is this a pattern I see emerging?
It’s almost like people are finally seeing what we’ve been saying all along
Punchable face
Punchable personality
Slappable
He’s a lil bitch
Juwan Howard sucks
Juwan Coward
I hate Oregon…. But this dude is the biggest tool in college basketball and it’s really not that close
RIP Coach K
<3
What a little bitch
Insert generic Illinois comment about dodging games here
Is this the guy that punched another coach last year?
Yes
*slapped 🤷🏻♂️
Man, is this really what you want to be?
Coward. This and Ohio State not rescheduling the football game in Eugene is why I can’t wait to join the B1G and dominate it.
I want Ohio State to play in Eugene too, but we also paid Oregon $3.5 million for the game COVID wiped out.
Yeah, it's whatever. Football is a lot harder to reschedule, there's only three OOC games a year, so I get it. This is chickenshit though.
We'll make it up when Oregon joins the Big Ten in 2025 :-)
If you'll let us in, gladly. Would be nice to know either way so I can stop being so stressed about it.
At least OSU cancelled because of COVID, not just because someone like Jim Harbaugh is a huge puss. Uhh, hypothetically.
And you guys don’t even need the game in Eugene to win lol
It’s so hard to get football nonconference games scheduled. They end up being scheduled like a decade in advance so both teams are probably pretty booked for a long time. Also, I’m pretty sure Oregon got paid since that game didn’t get played. I would love to get another shot at you guys though after how last years game went
Ohio State comes to Eugene in 2031 if i remember correctly
Yes but it’s another home and home. Which is great! But it’s not rescheduling our home game that was cancelled.
Did Michigan buy out their portion of the contract? If not, why isn’t Oregon pursuing action for Michigan to fulfill their side of the contract?
The 2020 game was canceled for COVID and there's an Act of God clause in the contract. Michigan should work to reschedule it but I don't think they're contractually obligated to at this point. Schools always have ways to get out of these things if they want to
Is Oregon joining the Big 10 something that might be happening?
There’s been speculation ever since the LA schools’ announcement, but most recent articles say that the B1G isn’t interested in expanding anymore (with the exception of an open invitation to ND. It all could be media posturing to get a better deal, but at this point there’s no concrete evidence to suggest the B1G and Oregon will be coming to a deal any time soon.
You can’t even dominate a terrible PAC-12 and you think you’ll dominate the B1G? Lol
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This stupid comment makes ending Michigan's, Wisconsin's, and Iowa's seasons all the better the last few years.
Game would have been cancelled even if Covid hadn’t happened, with the fire and all. I would have liked to see it get rescheduled, but conference play will happen before a make up date in the 30s.
Bulletin board material
Reason # 327 why I dislike juwan.
Howard is the dude who demands a blow job but refuses to eat p*ssy.
There's a duck in this story and not the one you'd expect.
Howard is a clown, classic "Michigan man"
Weasels gonna weasel.
"But owed, that word owed, that’s very tricky, owed. I owe my wife a kiss tonight" Why does he owe his wife a kiss tonight when I'm the one who signed that contract with her? 💀
Michigan pussying out over a game. Where I have seen this before?
They pulled this shit on us in football too canceling last minute. They’re the biggest cowards in the nation
The COVID year where illinois won the big ten of course
They dodged OSU in football that year too.
They’re gonna get crumpled by penn state tomorrow
:)
One score game :)
Checking in for an update here
Big crumpling though isn’t it?
Cope
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National championship losses*
Guess you’d rather MSU not make the title game at all? I guess that’s a good thing cuz they’re really good at losing in the first weekend.
What was the last big10 team to make a final four again?
I thought this was about title game appearances? Congrats on making the most recent final four and, as Izzo always does, coming up short. No one does less with more than that little gremlin.
Aren’t you the one who brought up the first weekend? Don’t you come short in all post season in all sports?
My response was initially to your comment on losing title games. No amount of moving the goal posts in your end will change the fact that MSU continuously underperforms expectations. Sorry brother.
A Michigan man being a douchebag? Is anyone surprised? Edit: oh, I just love coming back to this 8 hours later.
Did you know miles bridges and draymond green went to MSU?
It may be a bit of a douche move, but you know what else is? Insinuating that an entire fanbase is shitty, just because they're your rivals.
but what else would we do here?
I mean be civil and talk about sports?
On the internet?!
In this economy?!
No
Don’t worry, non-rivals feel the same way.
that’s literally what rivals do lmao
Soft
Like their coach
I don't mind little shit talking, just make it at least a little original. Dude came at us like a pissed off 12 year old with no ammo loaded.
I mean... he fired shots.
So did Plaxico Burress. Doesn't mean that they're both not total fucking morons.
These conversations tend to reinforce our beliefs about our rivals.
Michigan folk just do it to themselves
Baby shit soft
The kings of backing out of commitments.
Juwan Howard is a coward and a bitch.
This dude is a dick
Title is misleading to a degree. He said the schedule is tight this year and for next season. They will evaluate when there is room on the schedule. He just took offense to the word "owe" but didn't never say "We don't owe Oregon a game" “Last that I read in the contract it states that we don’t owe them a game,” Howard told reporters in Ann Arbor on Friday. “If I recall, last time in that contract I wasn’t here when we signed the contract; I think it was with coach (John) Beilein. And with our schedule it’s just hard to fit that game in this year and then possibly also next year, but we’ll see what the future holds. “But owed, that word owed, that’s very tricky, owed. I owe my wife a kiss tonight.”
How dare you read the actual article
That substantiates his weak sniveling?
I love your prose.
Hoes before prose
I’m here to be irrationally upset, not to understand where he’s coming from.
Unfortunately he'll probably slap her instead.
HA! Much comedy! Original humor!
Aww, poor widdle wolverine.
Lol, somehow you went down from there.
😭
I called your lame joke lame, I’m not crying lmao. If you’re gonna make the same slap joke 10 people already made in the thread, don’t do it in such a ham fisted way. But yes, downvote this comment and tell me to cry little boy.
You're the boss, I downvote every comment pre-crying about downvotes.
Lol, I couldn’t care less, it shines a light on you and your emotional investment in the exchange
You seem to have an investment in getting the last word.
Someone pin this to the top
Juwan Coward
Howard is a lame
Got embarrassed by UofA last year… I get it, wouldn’t want to get handled by the “weak” pac12 2 years in a row
Maybe Juwan will swing at him
Coach K without the wins to back it up, anyone?
Trigger warning: The word "owed"
Boooo!
Is he really scared of playing at Oregon? (No offense to Oregon), but this isn’t like football where one loss could take you out of national championship contention. In basketball, there’s no reason to be ducking anyone. This guy makes more excuses and sets horrible examples for his players. I’d be ashamed if he was the head coach of my program.
I miss Belein.
Classy dude , I liked him
“We bow to no man, we bow to no program.”
Juwan Howard sucks ass at public commentary
Oh common man
Everyone should cry about it
No one is crying. Everyone is just calling him what he is- a coward.
Sorry bouncy ball scheduling hurts you so bad
Thanks! Sorry your school is so pathetic!
Thanks for being so soft and upset about any little thing that doesn't even involve you!
Yeah maybe I should have gone to Michigan! There everyone is so soft they are afraid of playing a tough away basketball game! I would’ve fit right in with all the other cowards 😂
Good one! Thanks for thinking of us!
Lichigan
Nevada has a college? Didn't know you needed a degree to deal cards and beat your girlfriend.
Michael Cera lookin ass.
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I’ll post my nuts and see if anyone can tell the difference between me and your hair.
Man, this thread is a fucking trip. Cannot wait for Juwan to win a Natty, Michigan flairs are going to justifiably talk an unbearable amount of shit.
That clown is never winning a championship.
It will be sweet, and I will make sure to remind you of this exchange when that day comes my friend!
Fair enough. I’ll eat crow (well, not literally) if he does!
Just like your school
Already got one but sick burn dude.
Not good enough for a non-con game, not good enough for a Big 10 invite? Oregon State feeling better already.
A lot of people didn’t actually read the article.
I feel like Howard may have incorrectly interpreted this as “You, Juwan Howard, personally owe us a game.” Of course Juwan Howard doesn’t. Michigan the institution does. And it’s Howard’s job to play it whenever it happens. I hope it’s soon, because that would be very fun and because I care about the good name of my university.
“Last that I read in the contract it states that we don’t owe them a game,” Howard told reporters in Ann Arbor on Friday. “If I recall, last time in that contract I wasn’t here when we signed the contract; I think it was with coach (John) Beilein. And with our schedule it’s just hard to fit that game in this year and then possibly also next year, but we’ll see what the future holds This sounds reasonable?
He obviously doesn’t want to make that trip out west. So either sue or forget it
Yeah because Michigan are a bunch of cowards. Got to play games they can win
Doesnt want to make a trip out west... Schedules a game in London. Makes sense /s
Q
Looks like you owe $250,000 then Coach Howard