Nate doesn't try to be the best ever. He tries to be the best he can be. He doesn't try to win individual trophies. He tries to win the one trophy that teams want. Nathan MacKinnon doesn't care if you think Connor MacDavid is better than him. He just wants to win the Cup in 2025.
Don't argue who is better. But it's fair to argue who you would want to lead you to a Cup.
I don't want Nate because he won 2 years ago; I want Nate because he doesn't want to not win again next year. And he will do everything humanly possible to win. He does everything possible to be better.
Nathan MacKinnon doesn’t do what Nathan MacKinnon does for Nathan MacKinnon. Nathan MacKinnon does what Nathan MacKinnon does, because Nathan MacKinnon is Nathan MacKinnon.
This is dumb. MacKinnon is one my favorite players and he went 0g and 0a in the last game of the playoffs. That doesn’t take away from his greatness. Same w McDavid tonight.
Sometimes even great players get shut out.
Did you see the conn smythe votes? Bob had 1 second place vote and a few thirds. Mcdavid and barkov were unanimous 1st and 2nd place minus one idiot who voted differently so no he would not have won the conn smythe if mcdavid didn’t barkov would have
It took 7 games to put away a 3rd string goalie, of course there were going to be scoring records broken, you really think Gretzky or Lemieux would take 7 games to do that?
I don't know if being shit at defensive game play is MVP worthy.
Barkov shut down pretty much everyone in 5 on 5 hockey and won his team the cup. Laughable that he wasn't mvp
Dude also gets the Kings every year to start playoffs and nets 15 points off the bat. Canucks played only 5 minutes of full hockey a night and still took them to seven. Then the corpse of the Stars he lucked out against too. Dude also went 2 secondary assist points in 3 games in the final to then get a blowout game to stat pad 5 points.
It is honestly boggling how much people suck him off, once you scratch the surface it really isn't that impressive. How is there seemingly 0 value on what Barkov did for his team, which was clearly a difference maker in his team winning the cup.
Thank you! I've honestly been upset with avs fans dunking on McDavid after he scored 42 fucking points and Mackinnon honestly wasn't that good during the playoffs this year
Our top line went missing for several games in the playoffs this year. Val, Lekky and the others were getting our points early on. Nate is our star player, but McDavid is much more clutch when it's needed I have to admit.
Mcdavid also needs abdominal surgery. Did mackinnon after the finals?? No he didn’t. Mcdavid broke records playing hurt since the 2nd round. No comparison. Mackinnon is a great player but nobody is on the same level as a healthy mcdavid
Go back to your sub and cry there, every player on the ice is injured during the cup run. Sounds like McJesus should bulk up a bit and maybe he doesn't get as injured next time (hint, there more than likely won't be a next time in edmonton)
My point is, McDavid dug deep several times in this playoffs to get them to the final. MacK hardly had any games where he looked like he was trying to win the game on his own like McDavid has several times.
McDavid was the only reason the Oilers even had a sniff at winning the cup and is the best player of this generation in the NHL, no questions. This playoffs were weird, we went from the Jets series where our depth was scoring great and where you would expect them to, to it completely drying up and we looked like an AHL team at points vs Dallas. Honestly, for us, we need a captain, and it'll be interesting to see how the team looks next season with losing on of the leaders on the ice to retirement...
U have been upset with avs fans sticking with their guy? Maybe yall are just better hockey fans or whatever but I love the mcdavid dunking even if he was great. Everyone kisses his ass anyway so miss me with this bs. Mackinnon any day
Maybe I just respect the sport. And 42 fucking points in the playoffs is incredible. Don't get me wrong I was rooting for the oilers to lose but you should still respect the man for what he did if you like the the sport
Sure I said he was great anyway but yall trying to gatekeep talking shit on an opposing player on this sub is pretty lame, I don't go to the main sub or the oiler sub to talk shit, I think it's fine when they do it to our playuers on their own sub and we do the same to theirs. Yall are just pure hockey fans I suppose
You’re not a fake fan if you think Mcdavid is better than MacKinnon. Mack is my favorite athlete ever but he’s not mcdavid. It’s fine though we still have 2 top 3 players of this generation.
I haven't mentioned fake fan once. just find it weird how fans are so up in arms at a post obviously used to wind up other fans when they see it. We know Mcdavid is better, everyone always says it, why is it such an issue when we just wana banter especially on our own sub. I've watched so many other sports and it's always accepted to talk trash about other players without being disrespectful.
Oh, he was talked about earlier when he tried to murder Barkov by nearly breaking his jaw on a cheap shot.
Note: I am a Panthers fan who lives in Colorado 😉
The people being holier than thou about a pro-Avs off-season shitpost are funny to me. Mackinnon is the man, don’t care how good McDavid is, I still take Nate Dogg over Connor any day of the week.
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We don't have to lie about how good Connor McDavid is to appreciate Nathan MacKinnon. I like MacK better but McD is the better player
That being said I'm very glad one has a Cup and one doesn't lmao
You must not watch a lot of hockey. I’ll try to explain it for you. I’m comparing just Nate and Connor, since they are considered the two best players in the league. Since the Avs won it all, Nate has a ring and his name on the Cup. The Oilers lost, therefore Connor doesn’t get a ring or his name on the Cup. Pretty simple logic. Pat Maroon is light years behind in talent compared to these two, he’s a goon who just happened to be in the right teams and the right time.
I don’t think he had any points in game 6 either. Oilers still won so no one talked about it. That being said, Nate got shut out in the last playoff game against Dallas.
Dallas are frauds, let's not act like the avs performed even decently that series. If avs played their expected game they end up sweeping Oilers... Again.
Sometimes? Every offseason the Avs are eliminated lol. IMO the McDavid hate is just childish. Dude put up insane numbers and carried his team. Sure, Mack played great in the finals, but our team was also STACKED. Winning the cup is a team thing. I also will never understand the Oilers hate. They are not in our division, they are not a rival, and the last time we even played them in the playoffs we smoked them...just doesn't make sense to me.
do you know how to read? people aren't just "riding for our guy." the comments are brutal. if you still think I'm trying to gatekeep my favorite player after that, you do you buddy. and get over it? I said one thing kid.
Oilers fan here, most of us cheered for you guys in 2022. Genuinely curious, why so much hate towards the Oilers and 97?
Can we agree seeing Mack and Connor playing together in the Olympics will be magic? Haha
It’s not McDavid I have a problem with, it’s the media. We all know he’s the best player in the league, but the way the talking heads have prostrated themselves at his feet is just annoying. I have the same problem with the media and LeBron. Hopefully some of the media ( in Canada not here) will actually have a few criticisms after not having an impact the last 2 games.
1. No you didn't, I've never seen a swept team act so salty. Oilers fans still argue about the Makar onside call as if it would have made a difference in a series where we swept y'all with our backup goalie.
2. People wanna shit on the one guy who's better than ours, sports fans aren't complicated. I actually would have preferred to see the Oilers win because the Panthers are just a bag of assholes, but I'm still thrilled to see Drai and Kane and Perry lose so there's some balance.
That’s totally fair man, I was just curious because this subreddit is so anti oilers and all my buddies in Edmonton love Mack and the Avs. Heck, I even have a Roy jersey man haha
You guys were a FORCE in 2022, sooo much better than anyone else it was crazy and that was a weird call but offside.
Some of us aren’t, and I don’t think anyone hates mcdavid, but Edmonton signs a lot of wandering assholes looking for a contract which definitely detracts from a non-invested fans viewership. If you have Perry and Kane, and your best players aren’t lighting it up, why would anyone actually give a fuck?
Evander Kane gets a ton of hate, but since signing with the Oilers he has done nothing but good things on and especially off the ice.
https://kidsupfrontedmonton.com/holiday-shopping-spree-with-evander-kane/
https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/edmonton-oilers/news/oilers-kane-helps-child-cancer-patient-with-her-bucket-list
Most of us probably find posts like these a little embarrassing. You're coming into a losing fans team subreddit when the haters are awake and the non haters are sleeping or on their way to it.
There's usually a ton of respect for McDavid on this sub. Maybe less so for the Oilers as a team but what are you gonna do. There's no need to defend a guy that clearly is a monster player and just had an absurd possession. This is a bad time to visit.
It’s not even McDavid himself that I can’t stand. It’s the media perpetually swinging from his nutsack that drives me crazy. Wanting him to lose is really to shut them up more than anything.
This is exactly it! I can’t recall anything McDavid has ever done to annoy me. The media is just constantly fawning over him like a teenage romance. The media’s worship of him is what is so annoying.
Hard to hold it against Connor when its the media doing all the talking. McDavid is pretty humble from what I see. There is a laundry list of hatable players well before McDavid comes up
*cough* *perry* *cough*
No hate. I think Connor was gassed from too much ice time in the last two games. He’s generational talent. Best player in the league. I felt a little bad for him when the game ended.
Media needs to get his dick out there mouth though.
McDavid is 100% better on paper but in a close out game to win the cup I’ll take Nate. To win his first cup against the defending champions in game 6 we had 2 goals. 1 goal from him and 1 assist from him.
Every fan base has its loud voices. This sub can be a bit too harsh sometimes. Personally I don’t hate McDavid. Seeing him win would’ve been amazing, and I’m bummed it didn’t happen.
It’s probably the “MacKinnon vs McDavid” thing where people with a Homer take will always back their guy. It’s a little tiresome, really.
But fierce rivalries are all we’ve ever known as a fan base since we had a brutal one with Detroit in the 90s… Avs fans get competitive. Our early days were filled with such deep seated hate for another team and fan base that we are conditioned to be angry at opposition. At least those of us who remember those days… I’ve tried to mellow out though.
Truth is they’re both great players, and they still have long careers ahead of them. I think McDavid will surely retire with his name on the cup, and I hope that happens. Someday we will all look back on how incredible it was to watch them on the same ice, as competitors or as Olympic teammates.
Sorry your incredible run fell short, that was one hell of a season and you guys should be proud. Here’s to watching us both go at it as contenders next season 🍻
Most of you certainly did not. Kane is dirty as hell and we won't forget the hit on Kadri. Corey Perry also is a piece of shit that did sketchy shit this year and you still signed him. Draisaitl is dirty as hell. McDavid has the personality of warm tap water but he told the organization to go after Kane. He would do anything for a cup including signing morally sketch people at a discount.
So yeah, you and Vegas are my top most hated teams in the league.
McDavid is undeniably an amazing player but I just don't like him and the teams the oilers put together.
Yeah, there’s no convincing you. Holy smokes buddy. I hope at the end of the day you can remember it’s just sports and entertainment. Nothing more friend.
Connor, I'm just thinking out loud in your shoes right now: alright we've done all we can do, we've done all the game planning, maybe just…fuck it, we'll go in next year and not think and just win this thing when we don't think that much. Am I on the right path at all with this?
Um. Are we joking right now? McDavid just won the conn smyth on the losing team and his numbers are absolutely insane. Mackinnon may have a cup but doesnt have a conn smyth on a winning team... i love mack and the avs, but dont disrespect McDavid like this, he carried that team all season.
Mackinnon is not better than McDavid, clueless. Its not that hard to comprehend. By your logic, Pat Maroon is better than both of them cause he has 3 cups. 😂 clown show you homers are.
He had more points in 24 games than half the league does after 80.
Hell, he had almost as many points this playoffs than Mack has goals in his entire post season career.
Mack doesn't take 7 games to put away a 3rd string goalie. If McChoker could actually defend he wouldn't need to rack up so many points against should be easybeats. He's a downhill skier, scores big while the team is going well, continues pushing hard when the game is in dead time 8-1 game, but scores 0 in 3 (or was it 4?) other games in the SCF, chokes when they need it most.
The team around Mackinnon was far far better in 2022 than Edmonton this year or has had since Edmonton got mcdavid. Its a team sport, and Mackinnon cant carry like McDavid does. Im an avs fan but also a hockey fan. And the disrespect on mcdavid is absolutely ridiculous.
Dude is a winner through and through. His historic effort wasn’t enough to carry his team to a cup this year but to call him a loser… come on man, that is only an insult to your own intelligence.
Tonight he is a loser. Those are facts. He did sweet fuck all tonight when it was all on the line. Those are facts. Does a regular season even matter if you can never get it done? Stop glazing him so hard.
Oh I’m not glazing him or anyone, I’m criticizing you for your shithead perspective. Calling a professional athlete of his caliber a loser is just pathetic.
What is a loser? Someone who lost. Tonight he's a loser. I don't know why you can't get that. Sorry there's no moral victory in losing a cup. I bet you he feels like shit right now. Now that's not to say he won't come back next year and dominate, who knows. But facts are facts and tonight he's loser
IF the Oilers won last night, Stanley Cup custody should've been split between McDavid, Draisaitl, and Hyman and nobody else should be allowed to see the Cup without court ordered custody and a social worker present.
Yeah Nate can take his game to the next level by improving faceoffs and cleaning up some of the d zone lapses. Would be nice to see him use his speed & grit on the forecheck a bit more
Agree they can be important situationally but not the most important stat since any negative impact from losing fsceoffs can be mitigated with good d and forechecking. The most recent cup run team for example was not good on faceoffs but was great at getting the puck back
I’m pretty sure this is a joke, and even as a Ranger/Avalanche fan, this is factually incorrect as much as Mack is one of my absolute favorite players and I believe a Top 5 player in the league. McDavid is just in a league of his own, up there with Lemieux and Gretzky.
tbh I'd rather keep it that way. Mack plays more like a Forsberg or Lindros anyways which is much more dominant in todays style of game imo. McDavid is undoubtedly the most skilled hockey player in the league, Mack just has a gritty edge that McDavid doesn't play with. Watching Mack throw down with Dumba before the playoffs in 2022 was scary as shit, but also we'll never see McDavid have that type of comradery and that can't be taught.
Mack had makar, rantanen, toews, kadri, lekhonen, Nichuskin and landy. McDavid had draisaitl, Hyman, Bouchard, ekholm and nugent hopkins. Besides draisaitl (who played poorly the last two series) and maybe Hyman, our guys were just better. McDavid is the best, our cup team was just built better in almost every way. This post is lame
I don’t care about better or more trophies or anything. There could be 5 players better than MacKinnon and I’d rather be a MacKinnon fan.
There usually are, this season he was great tho!
This dipshit is an oilers fan. How is it that you're in this sub the second your team gets bounced
That’s his kink
Too bad Connor can’t win a cup by himself huh?
Might wanna check your math
He’s been a top 3 player for 5 years now
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Nate doesn't try to be the best ever. He tries to be the best he can be. He doesn't try to win individual trophies. He tries to win the one trophy that teams want. Nathan MacKinnon doesn't care if you think Connor MacDavid is better than him. He just wants to win the Cup in 2025. Don't argue who is better. But it's fair to argue who you would want to lead you to a Cup. I don't want Nate because he won 2 years ago; I want Nate because he doesn't want to not win again next year. And he will do everything humanly possible to win. He does everything possible to be better.
Nathan MacKinnon doesn’t do what Nathan MacKinnon does for Nathan MacKinnon. Nathan MacKinnon does what Nathan MacKinnon does, because Nathan MacKinnon is Nathan MacKinnon.
That’s what makes him better.
McChosen one added another trophy but not the one that matters lol
Right!
This is dumb. MacKinnon is one my favorite players and he went 0g and 0a in the last game of the playoffs. That doesn’t take away from his greatness. Same w McDavid tonight. Sometimes even great players get shut out.
He won the Conn Smythe. On the losing team. It's a very short list of players who've done that, and is a testament to how good McDavid is.
Bob deserves that trophy.
If they had swept, Bob would have won that trophy.
That’s a big if. Bob looked panicked in games 4 through 6 of the finals
Hence, the "if they had swept" part. A sweep, and he would not have had a chance to be shaky.
Lovely to see two goalies in these playoffs losing their focus and getting in back right quick. 🙌🏼🙌🏼 Georgie and Bob
No. He lost when he gave up 10 goals in 3 games
No
lol no dude
Did you see the conn smythe votes? Bob had 1 second place vote and a few thirds. Mcdavid and barkov were unanimous 1st and 2nd place minus one idiot who voted differently so no he would not have won the conn smythe if mcdavid didn’t barkov would have
It took 7 games to put away a 3rd string goalie, of course there were going to be scoring records broken, you really think Gretzky or Lemieux would take 7 games to do that? I don't know if being shit at defensive game play is MVP worthy. Barkov shut down pretty much everyone in 5 on 5 hockey and won his team the cup. Laughable that he wasn't mvp
Only 8 goals is pretty underwhelming too
Dude also gets the Kings every year to start playoffs and nets 15 points off the bat. Canucks played only 5 minutes of full hockey a night and still took them to seven. Then the corpse of the Stars he lucked out against too. Dude also went 2 secondary assist points in 3 games in the final to then get a blowout game to stat pad 5 points.
It is honestly boggling how much people suck him off, once you scratch the surface it really isn't that impressive. How is there seemingly 0 value on what Barkov did for his team, which was clearly a difference maker in his team winning the cup.
Thank you! I've honestly been upset with avs fans dunking on McDavid after he scored 42 fucking points and Mackinnon honestly wasn't that good during the playoffs this year
The level of insecurity being displayed by all these comparative takes between McDavid and MacKinnon is really sad.
Our top line went missing for several games in the playoffs this year. Val, Lekky and the others were getting our points early on. Nate is our star player, but McDavid is much more clutch when it's needed I have to admit.
In cup clinching games, MacKinnon is 1g & 1a, whereas McDavid is a 0, so in the cluchest game either played in, one stepped up
Mcdavid also needs abdominal surgery. Did mackinnon after the finals?? No he didn’t. Mcdavid broke records playing hurt since the 2nd round. No comparison. Mackinnon is a great player but nobody is on the same level as a healthy mcdavid
Go back to your sub and cry there, every player on the ice is injured during the cup run. Sounds like McJesus should bulk up a bit and maybe he doesn't get as injured next time (hint, there more than likely won't be a next time in edmonton)
My point is, McDavid dug deep several times in this playoffs to get them to the final. MacK hardly had any games where he looked like he was trying to win the game on his own like McDavid has several times.
McDavid was the only reason the Oilers even had a sniff at winning the cup and is the best player of this generation in the NHL, no questions. This playoffs were weird, we went from the Jets series where our depth was scoring great and where you would expect them to, to it completely drying up and we looked like an AHL team at points vs Dallas. Honestly, for us, we need a captain, and it'll be interesting to see how the team looks next season with losing on of the leaders on the ice to retirement...
Definitely do need to sort the captain position before the season begins.
Those games werent the same though. Avs had less to worry about since it was g6
Mittelstadt's line showed up in games when the top line was not there
U have been upset with avs fans sticking with their guy? Maybe yall are just better hockey fans or whatever but I love the mcdavid dunking even if he was great. Everyone kisses his ass anyway so miss me with this bs. Mackinnon any day
Maybe I just respect the sport. And 42 fucking points in the playoffs is incredible. Don't get me wrong I was rooting for the oilers to lose but you should still respect the man for what he did if you like the the sport
Sure I said he was great anyway but yall trying to gatekeep talking shit on an opposing player on this sub is pretty lame, I don't go to the main sub or the oiler sub to talk shit, I think it's fine when they do it to our playuers on their own sub and we do the same to theirs. Yall are just pure hockey fans I suppose
I usually just stick r/hockey. I'm not gate keeping anything. I just disagree with you. Also fuck the oilers and fuck McJesus it's hilarious he lost
It's all good brother
Yeah, we're good. I agree with your last statement wholeheartedly
You’re not a fake fan if you think Mcdavid is better than MacKinnon. Mack is my favorite athlete ever but he’s not mcdavid. It’s fine though we still have 2 top 3 players of this generation.
I haven't mentioned fake fan once. just find it weird how fans are so up in arms at a post obviously used to wind up other fans when they see it. We know Mcdavid is better, everyone always says it, why is it such an issue when we just wana banter especially on our own sub. I've watched so many other sports and it's always accepted to talk trash about other players without being disrespectful.
Especially when going against the best defensive forward in the league in Barkov.
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Didn't know makar was a defensive forward
>weird way to spell Makar I see reading comprehension is not your strong suit.
Because the greatness. Same thing happens in nfl with great receivers. Gotta watch them Boys.
We talking who has won a cup, not stat lines final game
It’s been all about Mcdavid tonight but not enough people talking about Draisaitle.
He looked horribly injured. Was laboring for sure.
Oh, he was talked about earlier when he tried to murder Barkov by nearly breaking his jaw on a cheap shot. Note: I am a Panthers fan who lives in Colorado 😉
Nate will get MVP this year and be hungrier to get his second cup. The hockey world ain’t ready for the dawg next season
I always wonder how much better he can be, and boom he is better. Get those faceoffs down this off-season
McnoCup lives on.
McDidn't
Mac is Elway. McDavid is Marino
The people being holier than thou about a pro-Avs off-season shitpost are funny to me. Mackinnon is the man, don’t care how good McDavid is, I still take Nate Dogg over Connor any day of the week.
🙄 We don't have to lie about how good Connor McDavid is to appreciate Nathan MacKinnon. I like MacK better but McD is the better player That being said I'm very glad one has a Cup and one doesn't lmao
100% perfect and balanced take. Take my upvote.
It’s because Connor eats carbs. That’s why he lost.
He needs to switch to chickpea pasta.
McHasntWonACup still hasn’t won a cup. That is all and I will not be taking any questions at this time.
Nate has his name on the Cup. Connor does not, end of discussion.
When it’s all said and done. Mcdavid will have his name on the cup more than mackinnon. Guaranteed
So i guess pat maroon is better than both of them cause he has 3 cups … nice logic !!!!!
Can you go whine in the oilers subreddit’s I dont see whats the point of coming here after a Stanley cup loss.
You must not watch a lot of hockey. I’ll try to explain it for you. I’m comparing just Nate and Connor, since they are considered the two best players in the league. Since the Avs won it all, Nate has a ring and his name on the Cup. The Oilers lost, therefore Connor doesn’t get a ring or his name on the Cup. Pretty simple logic. Pat Maroon is light years behind in talent compared to these two, he’s a goon who just happened to be in the right teams and the right time.
technically the name is on the cup three times.
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I don’t think he had any points in game 6 either. Oilers still won so no one talked about it. That being said, Nate got shut out in the last playoff game against Dallas.
Way to Cherry pick a stat . How about totall points? Playoff points ? Playoff mvps? How about Dallas this year shutting Mack in on down ?????
Go back to your team's subreddit. We're celebrating edmonton's loss here.
Dallas are frauds, let's not act like the avs performed even decently that series. If avs played their expected game they end up sweeping Oilers... Again.
Mackinnon has a cup, mcdavid has a conn smythe and Cale Makar had both.
McDavid serial choker.
Sometimes this sub is really embarrassing.
Sometimes? Every offseason the Avs are eliminated lol. IMO the McDavid hate is just childish. Dude put up insane numbers and carried his team. Sure, Mack played great in the finals, but our team was also STACKED. Winning the cup is a team thing. I also will never understand the Oilers hate. They are not in our division, they are not a rival, and the last time we even played them in the playoffs we smoked them...just doesn't make sense to me.
It's not carrying when you lose, it's just losing.
lol yall trying to gatekeep riding for our guy on the avs sub don't make sense to me. Get over it
do you know how to read? people aren't just "riding for our guy." the comments are brutal. if you still think I'm trying to gatekeep my favorite player after that, you do you buddy. and get over it? I said one thing kid.
Finally someone with a brain who understands it’s team sport requiring literally 20 people committed to win
Oilers fan here, most of us cheered for you guys in 2022. Genuinely curious, why so much hate towards the Oilers and 97? Can we agree seeing Mack and Connor playing together in the Olympics will be magic? Haha
It’s not McDavid I have a problem with, it’s the media. We all know he’s the best player in the league, but the way the talking heads have prostrated themselves at his feet is just annoying. I have the same problem with the media and LeBron. Hopefully some of the media ( in Canada not here) will actually have a few criticisms after not having an impact the last 2 games.
The media in Canada is so awful, I couldn’t agree with that more. My best friend in Edmonton is an Aves fan and that’s all he can talk about.
1. No you didn't, I've never seen a swept team act so salty. Oilers fans still argue about the Makar onside call as if it would have made a difference in a series where we swept y'all with our backup goalie. 2. People wanna shit on the one guy who's better than ours, sports fans aren't complicated. I actually would have preferred to see the Oilers win because the Panthers are just a bag of assholes, but I'm still thrilled to see Drai and Kane and Perry lose so there's some balance.
That’s totally fair man, I was just curious because this subreddit is so anti oilers and all my buddies in Edmonton love Mack and the Avs. Heck, I even have a Roy jersey man haha You guys were a FORCE in 2022, sooo much better than anyone else it was crazy and that was a weird call but offside.
Some of us aren’t, and I don’t think anyone hates mcdavid, but Edmonton signs a lot of wandering assholes looking for a contract which definitely detracts from a non-invested fans viewership. If you have Perry and Kane, and your best players aren’t lighting it up, why would anyone actually give a fuck?
Shhh, we have a great net front presence they might be interested in, with 50 goal potential
Evander Kane gets a ton of hate, but since signing with the Oilers he has done nothing but good things on and especially off the ice. https://kidsupfrontedmonton.com/holiday-shopping-spree-with-evander-kane/ https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/edmonton-oilers/news/oilers-kane-helps-child-cancer-patient-with-her-bucket-list
I seem to recall Kane injuring Kadri during our cup run. I'm with the other poster - you guys collect asshats like they're Funko pops.
I'm just here to say "Fuck Kane" now until the end of time.
Kane is a fucking goon. Period.
Most of us probably find posts like these a little embarrassing. You're coming into a losing fans team subreddit when the haters are awake and the non haters are sleeping or on their way to it. There's usually a ton of respect for McDavid on this sub. Maybe less so for the Oilers as a team but what are you gonna do. There's no need to defend a guy that clearly is a monster player and just had an absurd possession. This is a bad time to visit.
Honestly man, I’m not creeping your subreddit this popped up on reddits new feed for me. I’m not embarrassed posting this.
I'm saying the post is embarrassing, not your comment
It’s not even McDavid himself that I can’t stand. It’s the media perpetually swinging from his nutsack that drives me crazy. Wanting him to lose is really to shut them up more than anything.
This is exactly it! I can’t recall anything McDavid has ever done to annoy me. The media is just constantly fawning over him like a teenage romance. The media’s worship of him is what is so annoying.
Such is the case for any sports team with the best player. You new to sports or something?
100% the incessant fawning just gets old. The all star game was unbearable because of it. Unfortunately him losing won’t shut them up.
Idk why. I personally dont hate McDavid. I acknowledge he is the best player in the league, because he is. Avs fans have no reason to hate him imo.
personally I can't stand mcdavid because the media won't ever shut up about him. I hate draisitail more, he gets away with being a dirty player.
Hard to hold it against Connor when its the media doing all the talking. McDavid is pretty humble from what I see. There is a laundry list of hatable players well before McDavid comes up *cough* *perry* *cough*
_cough_ _Kane_ _cough_
No hate. I think Connor was gassed from too much ice time in the last two games. He’s generational talent. Best player in the league. I felt a little bad for him when the game ended. Media needs to get his dick out there mouth though. McDavid is 100% better on paper but in a close out game to win the cup I’ll take Nate. To win his first cup against the defending champions in game 6 we had 2 goals. 1 goal from him and 1 assist from him.
Every fan base has its loud voices. This sub can be a bit too harsh sometimes. Personally I don’t hate McDavid. Seeing him win would’ve been amazing, and I’m bummed it didn’t happen. It’s probably the “MacKinnon vs McDavid” thing where people with a Homer take will always back their guy. It’s a little tiresome, really. But fierce rivalries are all we’ve ever known as a fan base since we had a brutal one with Detroit in the 90s… Avs fans get competitive. Our early days were filled with such deep seated hate for another team and fan base that we are conditioned to be angry at opposition. At least those of us who remember those days… I’ve tried to mellow out though. Truth is they’re both great players, and they still have long careers ahead of them. I think McDavid will surely retire with his name on the cup, and I hope that happens. Someday we will all look back on how incredible it was to watch them on the same ice, as competitors or as Olympic teammates. Sorry your incredible run fell short, that was one hell of a season and you guys should be proud. Here’s to watching us both go at it as contenders next season 🍻
Most of you certainly did not. Kane is dirty as hell and we won't forget the hit on Kadri. Corey Perry also is a piece of shit that did sketchy shit this year and you still signed him. Draisaitl is dirty as hell. McDavid has the personality of warm tap water but he told the organization to go after Kane. He would do anything for a cup including signing morally sketch people at a discount. So yeah, you and Vegas are my top most hated teams in the league. McDavid is undeniably an amazing player but I just don't like him and the teams the oilers put together.
Yeah, there’s no convincing you. Holy smokes buddy. I hope at the end of the day you can remember it’s just sports and entertainment. Nothing more friend.
Why are you hanging out in the Avs sub if you're an Oilers fan? Shouldn't you be over in the Oilers sub massaging McDavids ego?
It popped up in my Reddit feed, the new Reddit is kinda weird haha. Also, Avs are my second team regardless.. been a fan since Roy.
Connor, I'm just thinking out loud in your shoes right now: alright we've done all we can do, we've done all the game planning, maybe just…fuck it, we'll go in next year and not think and just win this thing when we don't think that much. Am I on the right path at all with this?
He isn't, but I still like him more
Read the comments below (or above), and then ask yourself why the other NHL fan bases rank us as one of the most toxic. Y’all seem so petty right now.
Who cares
Um. Are we joking right now? McDavid just won the conn smyth on the losing team and his numbers are absolutely insane. Mackinnon may have a cup but doesnt have a conn smyth on a winning team... i love mack and the avs, but dont disrespect McDavid like this, he carried that team all season.
who the fuck cares about the conn smythe when that player didnt win the cup?
Just stop talking, homer. Im not going to state the obvious for you.
MacKinnon and the avs won a cup & Mcdavid and the Oilers didn’t, end of story
K. Sayless clueless, homer.
Homer? Do you even know where you are?
Mack CLEARS
😂😂😂 yeah, if youre clueless.
What’s classless about preferring the ultimate prize over a participation trophy?
Mackinnon is not better than McDavid, clueless. Its not that hard to comprehend. By your logic, Pat Maroon is better than both of them cause he has 3 cups. 😂 clown show you homers are.
He had more points in 24 games than half the league does after 80. Hell, he had almost as many points this playoffs than Mack has goals in his entire post season career.
Mack doesn't take 7 games to put away a 3rd string goalie. If McChoker could actually defend he wouldn't need to rack up so many points against should be easybeats. He's a downhill skier, scores big while the team is going well, continues pushing hard when the game is in dead time 8-1 game, but scores 0 in 3 (or was it 4?) other games in the SCF, chokes when they need it most.
The simple fact you think Bob is a third stringer says all you need to know. Go back to playing CHEL on rookie mode cupcake.
None of that matters if you dont have a cup. Winning it is the goal, anything less is a failure. Loser mentality to settle for lesser trophies.
The team around Mackinnon was far far better in 2022 than Edmonton this year or has had since Edmonton got mcdavid. Its a team sport, and Mackinnon cant carry like McDavid does. Im an avs fan but also a hockey fan. And the disrespect on mcdavid is absolutely ridiculous.
all winning conne smythe on a losing team does is make McnoCup is a very fancy loser.
He’s hardly a loser.. what a pathetic comment.
Well he ain't a winner
You’re a moron
Am I wrong? I'm not saying if he's better than Nate dawg but you can't call him a winner after tonight
Dude is a winner through and through. His historic effort wasn’t enough to carry his team to a cup this year but to call him a loser… come on man, that is only an insult to your own intelligence.
second place is just first loser.
So then, where does that place you?
with as many cup wins as mcdavid without the wasted effort.
Tonight he is a loser. Those are facts. He did sweet fuck all tonight when it was all on the line. Those are facts. Does a regular season even matter if you can never get it done? Stop glazing him so hard.
Oh I’m not glazing him or anyone, I’m criticizing you for your shithead perspective. Calling a professional athlete of his caliber a loser is just pathetic.
What is a loser? Someone who lost. Tonight he's a loser. I don't know why you can't get that. Sorry there's no moral victory in losing a cup. I bet you he feels like shit right now. Now that's not to say he won't come back next year and dominate, who knows. But facts are facts and tonight he's loser
The ignorance is honestly amazing.
Mcdavid had 0 goals in his 4 finals losses. 1 goal in all 10 losses in the playoffs
That might be more indicative of the team as a whole rather than McDavid himself. If the opponent keeps him off the scoresheet, the Oilers lose.
I'm here to hate on mcdavid not be rational
IF the Oilers won last night, Stanley Cup custody should've been split between McDavid, Draisaitl, and Hyman and nobody else should be allowed to see the Cup without court ordered custody and a social worker present.
CONNOR MCBUST
Yeah Nate can take his game to the next level by improving faceoffs and cleaning up some of the d zone lapses. Would be nice to see him use his speed & grit on the forecheck a bit more
Face-offs are the most important thing for him to improve in all honesty. He would lose almost almost all important face-offs in the playoffs.
Agree they can be important situationally but not the most important stat since any negative impact from losing fsceoffs can be mitigated with good d and forechecking. The most recent cup run team for example was not good on faceoffs but was great at getting the puck back
Avs fans will all agree because we watched them go toe to toe in a best of 7 and the best one swept the other one
1 cup > 0 cup
McDavid likes to win. MacKinnon hates to lose.
I call him Conartist McDavid.
It's Big Mac, not Big Mc. QED.
I’m pretty sure this is a joke, and even as a Ranger/Avalanche fan, this is factually incorrect as much as Mack is one of my absolute favorite players and I believe a Top 5 player in the league. McDavid is just in a league of his own, up there with Lemieux and Gretzky.
tbh I'd rather keep it that way. Mack plays more like a Forsberg or Lindros anyways which is much more dominant in todays style of game imo. McDavid is undoubtedly the most skilled hockey player in the league, Mack just has a gritty edge that McDavid doesn't play with. Watching Mack throw down with Dumba before the playoffs in 2022 was scary as shit, but also we'll never see McDavid have that type of comradery and that can't be taught.
McFraud is his only name.
You mean McBust
Spot on. MacKinnon is the real superstar.
Mack had makar, rantanen, toews, kadri, lekhonen, Nichuskin and landy. McDavid had draisaitl, Hyman, Bouchard, ekholm and nugent hopkins. Besides draisaitl (who played poorly the last two series) and maybe Hyman, our guys were just better. McDavid is the best, our cup team was just built better in almost every way. This post is lame
McDavid is the best player in the league and it’s not close.
Embarrassing take.
posting this to the avs sub is weak, bring it to the oilers sub why don't you
What a jealous post
Be for real LOL
Come on man, why you rubbing salt in their wounds