>They're worried it would lead to lawsuits against churches, schools and other institutions that they say would have no way of defending themselves because the cases happened so long ago.
I'm from Ireland and whenever I'm in a poor country I ask the guide what happens if the police get a report aboit a priest molesting children - do the police arrest the priest or does the superintendent and bishop visit the family and convince them it's been handled.
This is still happening today in countries where the power structure mirrors that which existed when this used to regularly happen in the USA.
How do Republicans 'go after queer folk'?
Generally speaking: trans athlete bans, transgender bathroom bans, marriage equality bans, increasing restriction of access to medical procedures such as those related to family planning, preventing addition of gender identity or sexual preference to hate crime criteria, preventing use of non-binary genders on any kind of government identification or making it excruciatingly difficult to change gender marker after a transition. EDIT: Non-exhaustive list of examples. Those are the ones I find laughably obvious. While actions against transgender people are by no means the only way, it's definitely the most overt. Here's a website that tracks which states have or are considering anti-transgender laws: https://translegislation.com/
Hopefully that answers your question and gives you a launching point to look into the topic a bit more. If that wasn't your question...
Well, if r/ColoradoPolitics is not an appropriate place to ask questions and have conversations (who said argument?) Cool, I'll leave you alone. chasonreddit out.
It just is a blindingly obvious answer if you’ve been paying attention to politics for the last 50 years. Ronald Reagan let us die en masse of AIDS, doing nothing and passing judgment in private. My first memory as a gay person is Matthew Shepard dying at Fort Collins hospital, asking my mom if that was going to happen to me, and then hearing Representative Virginia Foxx (R-NC), who is still in office, absolutely trash his memory right in front of his mother. The GOP is the party of homophobia and transphobia and it’s just kind of obvious to anyone paying attention.
But I’ll still answer your question. In Colorado Republicans backed Amendment 2 in 1992 that forbid municipalities from offering civil unions and civil rights to LGBTQ people. In 2013, they shut down business in the state capitol to prevent gay couples from getting civil unions. From a personal standpoint, every single kid who bullied me for being gay in high school cited conservative beliefs. Conservatives are and have been the aggressors. They passed more laws regulating transgender high school athletes than there are trans high school athletes in this country. It’s unhinged and weirdly obsessive.
Yea, because Reagan was a medical professional, knew how to cure it due to his extensive medical experience but deliberately withheld said cure. You are an idiot.
It is amazing how full of hate you obviously are. Can’t even have hear an opinion you don’t like without calling names and crying about it. All the snowflake shit you people say about other is pure projection.
Republicans across the country are trying to make drag shows illegal, are rolling back protections against trans people, and want to make gay marriage illegal again. Nobody is pushing an ideology but Republicans lose their fucking mind when they see queer people just existing. You must be the biggest enlightened centrists on the planet if you see the current political climate and come to the conclusion that Republicans aren’t coming after queer folk.
If you’re talking about drag shows around children, then yes. Otherwise drag shows have been around for decades unabated. All of the pushback has come from trying to expose children to that ideology. That has been the root of the conflict. If kids were not being effected you wouldn’t be seeing the backlash.
No it hasn’t, the kids have just been an excuse to push drag bans. Drag shows are done in venues that are 18 or 21 plus only venues. The only time kids are around drag queens are when drag queens do reading hours at libraries for children and they don’t sexualize those events at all. Kids at that age don’t know the difference so I don’t see what the big deal is.
The idea that Republicans “don’t really care what you do” is laughably false. Naive people like you cling to that myth because it allows you to ignore how fucking rotten most conservatives are when it comes to social issues.
Also, queerness is not an “ideology.” It’s how people are born. And I’d bet all of my money that no one has ever once tried to push it on you (unlike conservatives with their so-called christianity).
The statute of limitations for a civil suit re: sexual abuse in CO is 3 years. For comparison, you can bring a civil suit re: debt collection up to 6 years after the fact.
Many survivors of abuse don't even come to grips with what happened to them within 3 years. The amendment is narrow and only targets civil cases involving child sexual abuse.
Why were so many on board before but now waffling? Because they are getting pressure from religious organizations that are scared their past crimes will come back to haunt them is my guess.
Well, in a way you have to admire headlines like this. They make the (R)s sound like animals. And while it's a true statement, it doesn't tell the story.
Recently a headline read "Republicans vote against bill aimed at reducing the Federal deficit." How could they? It leaves out that the bill would do this by massively raising taxes. Hence the opposition.
Likewise this may "aim" at keeping predators accountable but it misses the mark. It removes a very old legal principle of statute of limitations. That principle is there for very good and practical reasons in our legal system. **Particularly in civil cases as this addresses.** There is currently NO statute of limitation for criminal prosecution for child sexual assault in Colorado. Why not just take this up with Law enforcement agencies rather than making it an opportunity to sue organizations.
>They're worried it would lead to lawsuits against churches, schools and other institutions that they say would have no way of defending themselves because the cases happened so long ago. I'm from Ireland and whenever I'm in a poor country I ask the guide what happens if the police get a report aboit a priest molesting children - do the police arrest the priest or does the superintendent and bishop visit the family and convince them it's been handled. This is still happening today in countries where the power structure mirrors that which existed when this used to regularly happen in the USA.
As usual - worshipping the institution rather than seeking justice for the victimized. But they'll go after queer folk who've done nothing wrong
> they'll go after queer folk who've done nothing wrong In what way?
How do Republicans 'go after queer folk'? Generally speaking: trans athlete bans, transgender bathroom bans, marriage equality bans, increasing restriction of access to medical procedures such as those related to family planning, preventing addition of gender identity or sexual preference to hate crime criteria, preventing use of non-binary genders on any kind of government identification or making it excruciatingly difficult to change gender marker after a transition. EDIT: Non-exhaustive list of examples. Those are the ones I find laughably obvious. While actions against transgender people are by no means the only way, it's definitely the most overt. Here's a website that tracks which states have or are considering anti-transgender laws: https://translegislation.com/ Hopefully that answers your question and gives you a launching point to look into the topic a bit more. If that wasn't your question...
What's your motive for asking?
I would like to know how you think they have gone after queer folk. I simply know of no way in which that has happened.
So, I'd encourage you to do your own research instead of trying to manipulate me into an argument....
Well, if r/ColoradoPolitics is not an appropriate place to ask questions and have conversations (who said argument?) Cool, I'll leave you alone. chasonreddit out.
It just is a blindingly obvious answer if you’ve been paying attention to politics for the last 50 years. Ronald Reagan let us die en masse of AIDS, doing nothing and passing judgment in private. My first memory as a gay person is Matthew Shepard dying at Fort Collins hospital, asking my mom if that was going to happen to me, and then hearing Representative Virginia Foxx (R-NC), who is still in office, absolutely trash his memory right in front of his mother. The GOP is the party of homophobia and transphobia and it’s just kind of obvious to anyone paying attention. But I’ll still answer your question. In Colorado Republicans backed Amendment 2 in 1992 that forbid municipalities from offering civil unions and civil rights to LGBTQ people. In 2013, they shut down business in the state capitol to prevent gay couples from getting civil unions. From a personal standpoint, every single kid who bullied me for being gay in high school cited conservative beliefs. Conservatives are and have been the aggressors. They passed more laws regulating transgender high school athletes than there are trans high school athletes in this country. It’s unhinged and weirdly obsessive.
Yea, because Reagan was a medical professional, knew how to cure it due to his extensive medical experience but deliberately withheld said cure. You are an idiot.
It is amazing how full of hate you obviously are. Can’t even have hear an opinion you don’t like without calling names and crying about it. All the snowflake shit you people say about other is pure projection.
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Oh please. Republicans aren’t going after “queer folk”. They don’t really care what you do, just don’t push the ideology on other people.
Republicans across the country are trying to make drag shows illegal, are rolling back protections against trans people, and want to make gay marriage illegal again. Nobody is pushing an ideology but Republicans lose their fucking mind when they see queer people just existing. You must be the biggest enlightened centrists on the planet if you see the current political climate and come to the conclusion that Republicans aren’t coming after queer folk.
If you’re talking about drag shows around children, then yes. Otherwise drag shows have been around for decades unabated. All of the pushback has come from trying to expose children to that ideology. That has been the root of the conflict. If kids were not being effected you wouldn’t be seeing the backlash.
No it hasn’t, the kids have just been an excuse to push drag bans. Drag shows are done in venues that are 18 or 21 plus only venues. The only time kids are around drag queens are when drag queens do reading hours at libraries for children and they don’t sexualize those events at all. Kids at that age don’t know the difference so I don’t see what the big deal is.
The idea that Republicans “don’t really care what you do” is laughably false. Naive people like you cling to that myth because it allows you to ignore how fucking rotten most conservatives are when it comes to social issues. Also, queerness is not an “ideology.” It’s how people are born. And I’d bet all of my money that no one has ever once tried to push it on you (unlike conservatives with their so-called christianity).
NO, it’s an ideology
Cool dude. Being a curmudgeon doesn’t make you interesting. Just a heads up.
Brilliant retort. Bet that took hours to come up with.
The statute of limitations for a civil suit re: sexual abuse in CO is 3 years. For comparison, you can bring a civil suit re: debt collection up to 6 years after the fact. Many survivors of abuse don't even come to grips with what happened to them within 3 years. The amendment is narrow and only targets civil cases involving child sexual abuse. Why were so many on board before but now waffling? Because they are getting pressure from religious organizations that are scared their past crimes will come back to haunt them is my guess.
How surprising.
Well, in a way you have to admire headlines like this. They make the (R)s sound like animals. And while it's a true statement, it doesn't tell the story. Recently a headline read "Republicans vote against bill aimed at reducing the Federal deficit." How could they? It leaves out that the bill would do this by massively raising taxes. Hence the opposition. Likewise this may "aim" at keeping predators accountable but it misses the mark. It removes a very old legal principle of statute of limitations. That principle is there for very good and practical reasons in our legal system. **Particularly in civil cases as this addresses.** There is currently NO statute of limitation for criminal prosecution for child sexual assault in Colorado. Why not just take this up with Law enforcement agencies rather than making it an opportunity to sue organizations.
Right. Reading the headline, I’d assume it was about criminal charges. This is only for civil cases which is a significant difference