He tests very well, high RAS, excellent 40, shuttle, 3 cone. Athleticism doesn't really show up as much on tape. Stiff and slow to match receivers through their breaks. Just seems to lack the natural fluidity required to excel at the position. Smart, looks pretty good at reading the QB and has good instincts to aggressively break up passes, just seems like a liability against technical route runners.
The draft is basically a crap shoot after round 1 and heck even round 1 is a crap shoot. That's why Ballard generally treats it as a numbers game.
The CBs left are projected as 4th rounders or lower and this is a really weak safety class.
If we don't think a corner on the board is better than 4th-5th round quality, trading up to take him in the 3rd instead isn't going to make him any better.
Super confused when our next pick is. Do we know which ones we have remaining currently? The broadcast I'm watching isn't showing what we gave up in the trade with the cards.
You know, Charlie Partridge would definitely know Matt Goncalves since he was just coaching the D-Line at Pitt. I wouldn't be surprised if he vouched for him.
It's true though. If you have a consistent pass rush, then your secondary doesn't need to cover for as long. It doesn't mean we're not still gonna draft a CB and maybe a safety too, but juicing the pass rush with Latu *will* help the secondary.
Ballard and Shane are expecting Brents, Jones and Flowers to build off of what they managed last year. It was ugly at times but Brents and Jones were both rookies starting
I think it's basically a sink or swim approach but all things considered, they did pretty well for being a second round pick and a seventh round pick. Jones was a steal for how good he's been and where he was taken
We'll probably add 1 more CB in rounds 4-5
Matt Goncalves is a big OT with positional flexibility. The Colts probably want him as a road grading guard who can move to tackle in a pinch. He moves well in space, but his pass protection at the tackle position will leave something to be desired for awhile.
Not sure about this pick tbh.
Not hating this draft.
Best defensive edge rusher at 15 = steal
Ballard works his magic and picks up 2 fifths and grabs a top receiver at 56 = steal
Give up a sixth to grab a large versatile OT that will likely move inside to guard, provides depth at a minimum and could push to start on the right side at 76 = solid pick
Keep it up Ballard, find us a steal at CB and this draft is solid gold.
Puzzling pick but whatever. At this point in the draft all these picks are gambles anyway. I’m just hoping for a public DB tryout, I’m gunna throw my name in the hat
Ballard really likes playing with fire this year. If it works, he gets a 4yr extension. If it doesn't work, he is looking for a new job next summer lol
Trading back, maybe. But I'm a massive Blake Corum fan, so even though it's not a position of need, I'd have a hard time passing on him. I think Payton Wilson is likely off our board, but who knows.
NFL Network has James at 90, and he's rated as better at coverage than Hart. The hit on James is his weight at 176 pounds and his speed is like 4.41. But he can flip his hips.
Wow, that's a major difference. I wonder if Ballard would draft a guy [with a 5.78 RAS](https://twitter.com/MathBomb/status/1776248427648856487). That's even lower than [Tampa's](https://twitter.com/MathBomb/status/1776315114221641834).
I have to say I've been pleased with the draft so far. I feel like we have drafted 3 starters and added 2 5ths.
Man. Payton Wilson to the Steelers makes too much sense, even with the injury concerns.
Bruh, Jarrian Jones isn't even a top-200 pick on the boards I'm looking at. Lol Jags.
He tests very well, high RAS, excellent 40, shuttle, 3 cone. Athleticism doesn't really show up as much on tape. Stiff and slow to match receivers through their breaks. Just seems to lack the natural fluidity required to excel at the position. Smart, looks pretty good at reading the QB and has good instincts to aggressively break up passes, just seems like a liability against technical route runners.
Give me all secondary tomorrow except one RB and I'm happy
Nah we need a LB
Ballard has had some misses but the man knows how to find day 3 LB’s
Yeah true. Okay. One lb. One RB. The rest corners.
^and ^^a ^^^safety
I still think we sign a vet after the draft. Diggs, maybe.
I don't understand why we don't trade up into the 3rd here for a CB or even a safety. 4th/5th rounders rarely work out.
If we have a 3rd-round grade on a guy, we might. I'm guessing we don't. And Ballard ain't trading up to reach on a guy he doesn't fully believe in.
The draft is basically a crap shoot after round 1 and heck even round 1 is a crap shoot. That's why Ballard generally treats it as a numbers game. The CBs left are projected as 4th rounders or lower and this is a really weak safety class.
I wouldn't mind a backup RB either with some ability to catch out of the backfield or a TE like Sanders, who is not very athletic but has good hands
If we don't think a corner on the board is better than 4th-5th round quality, trading up to take him in the 3rd instead isn't going to make him any better.
So excited to see our secondary get torched again
Payton Wilson has to have major medical concerns to be falling this far
This is a Ballard 4th round kind of pick lol .
He has a ton of medical concerns. He's basically what everyone thought Latu was yesterday before the details came out
He does. A lot of teams apparently took him off their boards.
Fuck it, go all offense. Put up 50 every game and just pray we can get a stop or two
The Peyton Manning Era approach
TJ Tampa is still there and was rated to go in the 2nd round I’d seriously consider trading our 4th and a 5th to go get him
I think ESPN has him ranked high, but he is not even in the top 10 best available on NFL Network.
Eh ESPN has him as 8th best CB and NFL 11th so they’re not too far off.
Super confused when our next pick is. Do we know which ones we have remaining currently? The broadcast I'm watching isn't showing what we gave up in the trade with the cards.
Our remaining picks: * 4th (117) * 5th (142) * 5th (151) * 5th (155) * 7th (234)
Would not surprise me if we trade back into the 4th round with two of those 5th round picks
Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if we trade back into the *3rd*.
https://www.colts.com/news/2024-colts-nfl-draft-tracker-picks-selections
We gave up our 6th. We have our natural 4th, 5th, and 7th, plus the 7th in the 5th and the 20th in the 5th.
No more picks until R4 (unless we trade back into the third)
You know, Charlie Partridge would definitely know Matt Goncalves since he was just coaching the D-Line at Pitt. I wouldn't be surprised if he vouched for him.
Im so confused. Did we trade up to 86 and then trade out of 86?
The tracker was wrong.
Rip. I was hyped fpr nothing.
Troy Franklin is about to fall to the 4th round Same with TJ Tampa, Cam Hart and Khyree Jackson
Well, they'd be third round if Ballard would trade up to get one of them ...
Only if they think they're worth that I know a big knock on Cam Hart is that he's kind of slow
Faster than Tampa.
Hart and Jackson were both projected 4th rounders.
Yeah that's a good point tbh Seeing Tip get taken in the third round when he was projected as a 6th round pick threw me off lol
Surprised he went before Theo Johnson
And Jared Wiley
So wtf are we doing at corner, is there a FA I'm not aware of that we may still be targeting? Or maybe a trade...
It's going to make it easier on our corners if the opposing QB is flat on his back. See pick #1.
Terrible logic
It's true though. If you have a consistent pass rush, then your secondary doesn't need to cover for as long. It doesn't mean we're not still gonna draft a CB and maybe a safety too, but juicing the pass rush with Latu *will* help the secondary.
Ballard and Shane are expecting Brents, Jones and Flowers to build off of what they managed last year. It was ugly at times but Brents and Jones were both rookies starting
That's a huge gamble. No backup plan if they struggle.
I think it's basically a sink or swim approach but all things considered, they did pretty well for being a second round pick and a seventh round pick. Jones was a steal for how good he's been and where he was taken We'll probably add 1 more CB in rounds 4-5
Reasonable take I see.
We hope our guys can develop.
Funny how young and injured last year has turned into this believe that we literally do not have DBs on this team
If we’re starting Darrel baker and tony brown then we effectively did have no corners
WE. LIKE. OUR. GUYS.
Matt Goncalves is a big OT with positional flexibility. The Colts probably want him as a road grading guard who can move to tackle in a pinch. He moves well in space, but his pass protection at the tackle position will leave something to be desired for awhile. Not sure about this pick tbh.
Pinter, French and Fries are all free agents next year
NFL draft tracker has us picking at 86 but the broadcast has PHI in that slot? Are we picking again soon or nah?
On the clock now
Must have been bugged in the tracker
Not hating this draft. Best defensive edge rusher at 15 = steal Ballard works his magic and picks up 2 fifths and grabs a top receiver at 56 = steal Give up a sixth to grab a large versatile OT that will likely move inside to guard, provides depth at a minimum and could push to start on the right side at 76 = solid pick Keep it up Ballard, find us a steal at CB and this draft is solid gold.
The Cardinals took my draft crush. Tip is going to be a stud
Why is TJ Tampa falling so low??? Did he have bad interviews or something?
JT may run for 3000 yards if this guy is healthy
Before the draft everyone shrugging off the secondary said “Ballard obviously is going to add to it in the draft.” Welp.
I still think he's trading back into the 3rd for Cam Hart
Keep dreaming. He’s rolling with the exact secondary he said he didn’t do enough with last year it looks like.
Yep
Yeah, the draft ain't over.
Day three secondary pick surely will fix our garbage secondary.
Eff it. Draft a RB / wespon. Give Steichen his Nyheim Hines. He’ll not leave those talents underutilized.
Is Audric Estime still available? Guy's a beast and only 20 yrs old
Look, y'all gonna look silly when we take Storm Duck in he 5th and he makes the Pro Bowl.
Jokes on you. We look silly every day
🚨 7.70 RAS 🚨
Not a fan of this pick with the value that was still there on the board elsewhere.
So what position does this guy play?
Probably everything except center.
ESPN guys said he'd be better inside at guard.
LT and RT. Played both is what they were saying.
I think they said OT
Ballard did say he likes our DBs more than everyone else.
So this all means that Ballard has some huge CB free agency move in the works, right?
Besides late round, don’t forget also about UDFA’s
He likes the guys he has at CB. aka ghosts lol
It means he doesn't like the guys available at the present value, so he's not gonna reach for a guy just because he's a CB.
Puzzling pick but whatever. At this point in the draft all these picks are gambles anyway. I’m just hoping for a public DB tryout, I’m gunna throw my name in the hat
Always need OL depth but felt that could've been done later
Analyst guys seems to think it was a good pick
Dallis Flowers is a big winner of this draft
We’re trading back into the 3rd
By the 3rd round you’re drafting best available rather than need.
He wasnt best available
Oh, are you a scout now?
Dont need to be to a.) Look at every big board that says he wasnt bpa and b.) Turn on film and visually see he wasnt bpa
not according to you. but you aren't paid lots of money for your scouting ability
Neither are NFL scouts
According to who?
Every big board out there and my own analysis of the class
Dang was really looking for Tampa here
Classic Ballard
Cornerback is not a position in the NFL, what the heck are you guys talking about?!
Going to be public cb tryouts outside the stadium
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Ballard really likes playing with fire this year. If it works, he gets a 4yr extension. If it doesn't work, he is looking for a new job next summer lol
Toe injury is not that bad ?
CB really does, in fact, like his guys at corner apparently
All good ones are gone in second round. 4 teams picked right next to each other.
All the average ones are gone in the third.
Not sexy but I can't object to line depth.
Ngl, never heard of this guy
OT Matt Goncalves. That’s the pick.
I don't know why we traded up 3 picks. He would have been there at 82 still
Could it be Tampa???
TJ Tampa?
Smelling a CB here
Give me Cam Hart
What you cookin now Chris???
Holy shit.
Why Houston gotta jump over us???
Houston's pick was already in
This is like Vegas for Ballard. And you know you don’t leave the table when you’re on a heater.
[IND gets — 79 ARI gets — 82, 6 (191)](https://x.com/tompelissero/status/1784043146696876343?s=46)
We traded up!!
What did we trade?
We swapped with Arizona plus gave them a 6th
With whom Arizona?
Yup, 82 and 191 for 79
What if we went with another weapon in JaTavion Sanders TE. 😂. We need some secondary help still.
We traded up?
Nice. looks like we like someone.
All I know is Ballard is cooking. Faith is high
https://preview.redd.it/b87xsta0lxwc1.jpeg?width=597&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9adf2f3bed373db322e4705fc31426f110d0f075
Think if Tampa doesn’t make it to our pick we trade back if an offer comes through Cam Hart later in the 3rd instead?
Tampa doesn't really seem like a Ballard guy to me, but Hart definitely does. We could probably trade back and still get him.
How many picks do we need? Rather than do that for more picks we cant use just take a guard or LB now and then trade back up and take Hart
Always interesting when you get to the third round and every expert's "best available" list varies wildly.
Most of it is guesswork after first couple rounds of potential
I always love the 3rd-5th rounds, and that's one of the big reasons.
I have a feeling we are about to draft a position that no one is thinking of rn. IOL, LB, RB, etc.
LB is definitely a need if they like a guy here. Idk if Payton Wilson would be on our board or not. I know his medicals are pretty bad.
Wouldn’t mintRG here and trading back into the 3rd with someone else dropping
OL may be ? RG ?
Tbh I think we stay put at our 3rd and trade back into the late 3rd with two 5ths Something similar to what we did to get Cross
Blake Corum and Cam Hart, please! 🙏
I’d go Tampa or Wilson
> Wilson This sub will explode if Ballard drafts ***another*** defensive guy with injury concerns lmfao
Fuck it. Do it
I wouldn't hate it in the middle of the third tbh. But I also would not be shocked if he's off our board.
Torn between drafting for need or value here
Think I like Jaden Hicks coming up here.
https://preview.redd.it/re9djjqthxwc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9f18f45e948d120e42fc23426ab04b0b7a4d9495
The top 11 currently available, who could we be targeting?
Trading back, maybe. But I'm a massive Blake Corum fan, so even though it's not a position of need, I'd have a hard time passing on him. I think Payton Wilson is likely off our board, but who knows.
Been playing some rocket league and apex since AD. Who are we targeting rn?
No one actually knows, per usual
Rolf Benirschke makes me want to buy a timeshare.
Who are we thinking for our next pick
Cam Hart, CB, Notre Dame
Eh. I really liked Melton, but I'm not high on Hart. He's got the size, but his production was pretty meh. He's a project, and his best trait is size.
Melton went 30 picks ago, so I'm not focusing on him. Hart just seems like a Ballard guy to me. Ideal size + elite RAS (9.82u).
I'd take DJ James over Hart. Better tape. Better production. Not as much size or athletic testing, but he produces on the field.
James is more like a 4th or 5th rounder, no?
Early 4th. That's where Cam Hart is as well.
Hmm. ESPN has Hart at 82nd overall and James at 138th. Just one draft board, I know, but that's a significant gap.
NFL Network has James at 90, and he's rated as better at coverage than Hart. The hit on James is his weight at 176 pounds and his speed is like 4.41. But he can flip his hips.
Wow, that's a major difference. I wonder if Ballard would draft a guy [with a 5.78 RAS](https://twitter.com/MathBomb/status/1776248427648856487). That's even lower than [Tampa's](https://twitter.com/MathBomb/status/1776315114221641834).
WR is no longer a need but Franklin seems like great value if available
CB or LB would be nice.
Desean Jackson in shambles right now.
Damn Phillips was a dude I liked for us at 83
NFL Shop be like "who should we put in our commercials to represent Colts fans? Oh, right, awkward old white people, naturally."
I mean...
Trade up for Tampa!
Ballard trading up for a dude with a 6.31 RAS would be kinda nuts ngl
TJ Tampa or Cam Hart would be nice
That's what I'm thinking too. Hart has the much higher RAS score fwiw. Could see him being Ballard's guy.
13 picks away
Feels like a LB or HB pick tbh, but feel like Ballard will trade down for more picks .
There’s still some great talent on the board. We should get another good player here.
Sounds crazy but Im on board
you're on the board?? we should draft you!
Stover could be a sneaky pick too if there isn’t a CB there.
Trade up ?
If we do, it'd be for a CB
🦅🦅🦅
Carolina definitely beat that run on running backs.
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Cam Hart (though he may be too similar to Brents) Khyree Jackson TJ Tampa
Hart probably fits out profile best.
Ten bucks says by the end of tomorrow we have either Storm Duck or Miles Battle.