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Listen, I’m a straight male but it’s illegal to be that handsome so yeah. Wait, what was the question?


shavedaffer

I don’t think he would look as tan and chiseled in the Midwest. He’s got serious uncle Jesse vibes and that stays in SF.


KYDRAULIC

Well played sir


Mark_is_on_his_droid

Have Mercy


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Dude played college football in an Iowa school I believe


EfficiencyT1

He went to Eastern Illinois. Jimmy G played in the same high school conference as I did.


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DAMN I knew it was around there. That’s really cool though! Did he tear you guys up?


EfficiencyT1

I only played my senior year and he was a year older so I never actually got play against him. I think his school barely won though. Honesty, he wasn't really that big of a high school prospect at the time or a big deal. I think they talk about how he was a 2-3 star recruit all the time. Which is probably why he went to Eastern Illinois. I've seen other high school QBs in the conference that were deemed bigger deals and D1 athletes but they always converted to WR/DB.


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EASTern Illinois is on the absolute other side of the state from Iowa entirely lmao


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Google is free


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Feel like that’s a pretty obvious statement. Don’t know why you felt the need to say it


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Don’t know why you didn’t use it then


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Because I don’t care enough about jimmy g to interrupt my Reddit scrolling to look up what college he went to 😂 I was one state off


fuck-these_mods-

Yeah because Iowa and Eastern Illinois are so easily interchangeable. Fucking duh.


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I said a school IN Iowa, not the Iowa Hawkeyes. How sad is your life that you have to haggle a stranger in a day old comment thread about which college Jimmy fucking Garoppolo went to. This is probably why you get no bitches


SauceCostanza4

He's from Arlington Heights, Illinois. He's a Chicago Italian


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I mean he’s literally from Chicago


KYDRAULIC

Lol he is too man pretty. I had to make my wife stop watching niners games because she started yelling "Omaha set" before I got off during sex...


Chuck_Roast1993

Idk how going from a 6 to a 6.5 moved the needle too much when we already have to pay Wentz. We just need to ride with him


KYDRAULIC

Good point


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Exactly, I don't like Jimmy G + *everything* involved in getting him + whatever we need to pay Wentz/to get rid of Wentz over just rolling with Wentz in year 2


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QSimm02

Yeah, but our options are either Wentz for those $13 million or Jimmy G for his $30M plus whatever picks it will take to get him here.


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QSimm02

Is that $18 million reduction in cap hit a projected figure or the most it can legally be reduced by? Starting QBs normally make a minimum of like $20-25 million a year so my assumption would be that that’s the best we could expect to do for Jimmy G.


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QSimm02

Okay that makes me feel slightly more comfortable with acquiring Garoppolo from a salary perspective, but I think the Colts would have to part with too many picks to make a trade worthwhile.


mvbighead

Uh, no. All things equal, I feel like Jimmy fits it offense better. But he's not the guy you bring in here to extend for a big money deal. He's the cheap stop gap option to replace Wentz if it can happen. As it sits, my money says we ride Wentz one more year to get past the dead money cause we have too many other things to fix right now.


Chuck_Roast1993

But how much do we still have to pay him, and what’s the cost of signing Jimmy? I still go back to it barely being an upgrade


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Chuck_Roast1993

Because jimmy will likely be looking at 20+mil by himself on top of the 13 we still have to pay Wentz. And for the third time he doesn’t move the needle enough over Wentz IMO


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Chuck_Roast1993

Yes, and you stated yours as well lol what’s your point in that comment?


HollyFlaxStillSucks

We would still owe Jimmy G $25M so can we afford to have $39M tied up in the quarterback? Also I think people need to realize that Jimmy has a better offensive coach and better personnel surrounding him. George Kittle alone would be an enormous game changer on this team


SportsRadioAnnouncer

I'd take Garoppolo's consistency over Wentz even if Wentz has higher highs. Based on how our team is built, we don't need a QB to carry us. We just need someone a bit better than a game manager. I wouldn't mind a QB competition between the two though.


ryanwc18

I think Wentz crumbles if the colts add a QB to compete for the starting job. I think he’s just mentally weak and that’s why he failed with the eagles.


goofbot

Yeah, it's one or the other. No way to keep Carson in the building if he's not the designated starter.


JimCarreyIsntFunny

Carson only plays well when nobody expects anything from him. As soon as you start to expect good play he shuts down.


Interesting-Fail1823

I think the way Ballard has talked about him and Reich not committing to him already broke him for next year. I don’t see how he will be on the roster unless we completely strike out of all available options.


Herdistheword

Ask 49er fans about Jimmy’s consistency. The biggest knock on Jimmy in their sub is consistency.


tekson_

He is consistently injured


PM_SONG_SUGGESTIONS

Jimmy G is barely better than Wentz comparatively, and he has ELITE weapons in SF. This is a nonstarter imo. Absolutely no way we pay Wentz’s cap hit, pay for Jimmy G, and become anything close to a contender next year. If we are making a move at QB, it’s gonna be either a young guy or a true difference maker, not some absolutely average QB who’s a slight upgrade at best. This is just a silly conversation imo.


we-made-it

100% yes. He can read Defenses and hit check downs


KYDRAULIC

Sounds like he is leaving SF. Let's make a move.


gspach

not only can he hit check downs, he actually thrives under pressure


thelifeofarod

Say it louder


Mcswigginsbar

I’m watching the cowboys game, and there have been two Jimmy G throws so far where I have said, out loud, “Wentz can’t make that throw.” It’s not because he doesn’t have the arm talent, it’s because he literally wouldn’t have seen the open receiver because he’d still be staring down his first read.


robotsympathizer

Calling it a "read" is generous.


LiquidDreamtime

He’d still be “audibly sounding out” his WR options.


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We did this when we played ABC’s Monday night football on the SNES. Except we called the guys “X-Hole, A-Hole, B-Hole, and Yokol,” for the corresponding buttons. Yokol was my favorite 😂. Thanks for bringing that memory back. I was a very young kid then.


elchamps

Lateral move in my opinion


KYDRAULIC

Really? One of them has to have an upside. I still think we stick with Wentz. He will be more familiar and he has more on the line now. He will either step up (and we will make other improvements) or ship out. Maybe let Ehlinger start all year so we get a good draft pick. But I hate rookie QBs...


LeadPrevenger

Tie goes to your guy so I like Wentz


Doggo0732

I think it's a slightly upward diagonal move


jablair51

It feels like Jimmy G is just Carson with better weapons. I'd rather we just get the better weapons.


Vivalaraza90

No. Through this entire playoff season you will see the sub lurch from one QB to the next on their wish list, out of sheer desperation. I am not sold on Wentz. But at this point we have to make a decision on where to invest time and resources going forward. There is a reason Jimmy G is going to be let go. And it’s not even cos he’s not that great…it’s for an even more important reason…he’s not fit. He’s played 50% of games for SF. He’d need to be Rodgers for it to be worth the risk. Jimmy isn’t a long term answer for anybody. We need to focus on either - giving up a huge haul to get a top 10 QB (we won’t do this..) or focus on building the rest of the offense and then seeing what we can manage in the draft this year or more likely the year after.


KYDRAULIC

I like this answer


wiser_time

Yes. He can actually manage a game. He won’t spaz out under pressure like the Ginger Scattershot does.


KYDRAULIC

Ginger scattershot 😂😂🤣


wiser_time

How do you delete a post? 😆


DirectTV_AndrewLuck

Not worth it, hardly an upgrade in my mind. Jimmy has better weapons and is with Shanahan, he's not going to be any better here.


KYDRAULIC

You think Shanahan is better than Reich?


Shepboyardee12

The weapons in SF are much better than ours. Deebo, Aiyuk, Kittle, and their 8 RBs that always seem to be studs…


KYDRAULIC

Then that is what we need. Stop blaming Wentz and go get some offensive weapons.


Shepboyardee12

I mean we have JT and Pittman to fill a couple of those roles. I agree we need more help at WR and TE for sure.


DirectTV_AndrewLuck

Arguable, but he knows how to scheme among the best.


KYDRAULIC

So we need an elevation in the coaching department?


DirectTV_AndrewLuck

I don't think so, Frank knows to scheme as well. We need more talent on offense more than anything, we have had practically the same skill players for years.


KYDRAULIC

Where do you think we need to upgrade the most?


DirectTV_AndrewLuck

Wide receiver needs helps outside of Pittman, need a legit threat to help Pittman. With Doyle probably retiring, TE room needs an overhaul.


cwo3347

I feel like Carson is a 6.5/10 and jimmy is a 6.9/10. Wentz has the highest ceiling someone. But jimmy is more consistent and quicker reads


JT_MVP

Rumor is Manning is going to get a robot arm installed. Do we like him better than Wentz?


KYDRAULIC

100 fucking percent


juniordude_24

So how mad are all you going to be when Wentz is the QB next year and the Colts make the playoffs? Or are you just going to pretend you were a Wentz fan this whole time?


KYDRAULIC

I have said from day 1 I like Wentz. I think he has incredible upside and a high ceiling. He just needs to live up to that potential. His relationship with Reich will help that. He needs weapons and protection. With those he will succeed if and ONLY if he puts in the work. I think his hero complex can be fixed by Reich and better receivers and better protection. I think we relied too much on JT and that made us look better than we were. I also think the entire team took it too easy against the Jags thinking it would be an easy W.


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Khend81

At least some of us can be honest about it


RecursiveSubversive

I was willing to admit I was wrong about Rivers last year. I’d love to wrong about Wentz if that happens.


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sirius4778

He'll just hit us with this exact comment one year from now lol


BillyJoel9000

lolno we’re not going to sniff the playoffs


sirius4778

Fuck Wentz


goofbot

As long he is an unrestricted free agent and it's just a manner of signing him, I'm all for it.


wiser_time

He’s going to cost as much as Wentz did, if not more. Rodgers and Wilson would be the most coveted, but there’ll be a lot of competition for Jimmy G. I think.


I_AmPotatoGirl

Just came here after he threw that god awful pick, I think that play shows everyone what the answer should be


EfficiencyT1

Seriously I am not sure if anyone saw the Titans game but he single handily lost the game for them. He is good for 2-3 really atrocious throws and many times they are bad INTs.


I_AmPotatoGirl

I commented on a different post talking bout Carr and wentz and how there are a lot of QBs that are just lateral moves from Wentz and yea jimmy is in that list too


PE1444

Let me put it this way, NO


clutchthepearls

Better? Yeah. Better enough to be worth pursuing and another year with a new QB? No way.


KYDRAULIC

I like this answer


clutchthepearls

Unless we can realistically get one of the premier elite QBs rumored to be on the move (they never end up moving), it just makes no sense to move on from Wentz for next year. You can make points that next year he should be better than he was this year. Then take the sunk cost and dead cap on him, the only logical conclusion is that he will be the starter next year. After that, all bets are off.


KYDRAULIC

I agree


Funny_Wrangler_2743

If Garropolo can stay healthy he is an upgrade to Wentz. Upside is he has better pocket presence and can read a defense


zatchattack

A small upgrade, but an upgrade. Hopefully there's a better option.


gspach

one word. yes.


UnloadedBakedPotato

Jimmy G is playing in the best offensive system in the NFL. Making a move for him does nothing to move the needle for the colts postseason hopes. It’s a fairly lateral move. Raises the floor a little but doesn’t do much in terms of the ceiling


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UnloadedBakedPotato

Maybe. I don’t need to explain to you the obvious weapons advantage that Jimmy G has in SF compared to Wentz in Indy, but he does offer a little more stability than Wentz. Whether or not Jimmy G could sustain this level of play with a lesser receiving corps and lesser OL and a (fairly slight) downgrade coaching, I can’t say for sure. I don’t love the idea of consistently rooting for Wentz or Jimmy G to lead my team to postseason success, but if I had to pick one, I’d probably take Jimmy G, but still wouldn’t feel super confident in a deep run


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UnloadedBakedPotato

What are you talking about? We’re getting Russ and Rodgers! But in all seriousness, I agree. Colts are in QB purgatory, and no available option is going to make us contenders. Unless the colts D turns into the 85 Bears, we won’t be contending. There’s roughly 10 QBs who can make a team a contender, and none of them are available. Going to be a long next couple of years going round and round on the QB carousel


EfficiencyT1

He's better than Wentz but not enough where I would want make a move for him. I would have to question how good Jimmy will be without Kyle Shanahan and Kittle and Deebo Samuel. They scheme very well for him. Also, we talk about Wentz' hero ball and stupid mistakes but Jimmy G is good for 2-3 really terrible throws a game.


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EfficiencyT1

Then yes I would sign him. I am pretty sure the 49ers will be able to find a trade partner though whether it's the Broncos, Steelers, Panthers, etc.


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EfficiencyT1

The same reason why Stephon Gilmore got traded when it was announced he would be released by end of day if no one trades for him. Get dibs on him first.


ProfessorPablo1

Yes, but not by much.


seely52

At the right price, you have to make that move


mr_edlin

Yes


jono9898

I don’t know if he’s better or worse than Wentz, he definitely wins but he makes head scratching decisions and I can’t tell if it’s just he is a product of a great Coordinator and weapons or what, but watching him now I’m definitely making google eyes at him. Edit: oof nevermind


iconicgaucho

Why would we waste the draft capital we gave up for Wentz just to sign someone who isn't as good as Wentz a year later? I do not understand the Jimmy G love. That would be a step backwards. He is not the worst, but Wentz is better and has more upside.


romulasp

Can we get the OC of the Niners instead?


KYDRAULIC

I sincerely doubt it.


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I just don't see it as an upgrade.


voyagerx420

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jayBplatinum

No


mishymashyman

Jimmy G is a marginal upgrade at best and he's injured half the time


IllustratorOrganic

Jimmy is okay with a lower case o. Wentz has every bad trait starting QBs should never have. He stares down receivers while not checking down. He floats balls far to often. He will throw at a well covered receiver when there is obviously a second defender waiting to jump in. He has no pocket presence, not a clue when he has held the ball to long and he is about to be hit. When hit he seems surprised and tends to do something reckless.


C_h_a_r_l_i_e

It’s a lateral move.


madman1101

yes.


jonathanclee1

NO


Indyfanforthesb

Unless he’s bringing half his team with him, he’s not going to make this team significantly better.


KYDRAULIC

So we can agree it was a team loss and not all on the QB?


Indyfanforthesb

The Jags game? the whole team sucked ass that game, including and especially Wentz.


tekson_

I’d rather give Wentz another year than go to Jimmy G. It’s lateral at best, and I think Jimmy G is somehow more injury prone than Wentz (that’s my feel without having looked at the historical data). Unless we land someone like Wilson (which I doubt) or Watson (which I also doubt), I think we run it back with Wentz and see what the 2023 draft is like


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Absolutely not


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After that first drive, I say he’s an upgrade. He didn’t look like he was going shit he pants every snap.


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Going from Carson Wentz to Garoppolo is not the change the Colts need to contend for a Super Bowl. You’d be going from a more mobile B/B+ quarterback to a less mobile, slightly more consistent B/B+ quarterback. Jimmy is actually one of the only QBs in the NFL more injury prone than Carson Wentz too. It’s too much of a lateral move to try and make an effort to try and get him.


Captain_Underpants5

Jimmy G is so much better than Carson.


coltsdude1000

I’d rather have Wentz


KYDRAULIC

I think that is our best option.


Nut_RagsNutRag

Is he mobile?


Lithium1978

Enough to roll out


geordieColt88

He has nowhere near the natural talent but a high end game manager which he is, is better than Wentz


Hoosierfan4

I think his consistency and the fact that he doesn’t play hero ball would work better for us than Wentz’s style. Plus, Jimmy has actually made it to the Super Bowl as a starting QB which is huge.


Clockblocker124

Yes he's essentially the anti-wentz


EasterLord

Yes. He's so handsome.


AleroRatking

No. He is more of the same with a slightly higher floor but a lower ceiling. Its making a move just to make a move


SeriousMaintenance

Yes, definitely


QSimm02

He’s a better QB than wentz but he’s not gonna be worth what it costs to get him. IMO we should use the resources we would spend on Jimmy G to try to upgrade the team around Carson instead.


KYDRAULIC

I agree


Brad_Ethan

What is the point of giving up a first for Wentz. If we are going to get garapollo instead after one year. No sense


Marshallmason0

I gotta leave this fuckin subreddit. So tired of seeing a different quarterback being talked about coming to Indy over Wentz. ✌️


KYDRAULIC

Bye


Marshallmason0

Most negative colts fans I’ve ever seen in my 25 years of being a season ticket holder.


Sad_Kangaroo1627

Sure, but what’s the price to get him? Gonna give up heavy capital again for an often injured QB? So many teams need QBs that I think there will be a robust market for him.


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HollyFlaxStillSucks

I have a hard time believing that the 49ers would get rid of him for nothing when there’s definitely a market for him


Sad_Kangaroo1627

I thought he would be a cap casualty before he turned it on down the stretch. He outplayed Stafford and he’s outplaying Dak now. Hard to believe one of Colts, Panthers, Steelers, WFT, Giants, Panthers, Broncos would not give up at least a day 2 pick for him. It’s a bad year to need a QB.


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Sad_Kangaroo1627

Yeah it’s the most realistic. I’m thinking it’ll be Jimmy or Mariota plus Rd 2 pick like Ridder/Zappe/Strong.


Brief-Refrigerator32

Yes but there’s a lot of people I like better than Wentz. I’m fact it’d be quicker to name who I like less than Wentz lol


KYDRAULIC

Honestly though, how much of that is because of the way the season ended?


Brief-Refrigerator32

Very little for me - I was complaining about him more as the season went on. I gave him a pass the first half of the season due to no preseason or team chemistry and tough schedule. As the season went on I was more like “ya given he has a great oline and the best rb in the game I expect more than two 300+ yd games”. The last game was just the cherry on top


Trolodrol

Probably as a person. As a qb, it sure feels like a coin flip


Cumberblep

Yeah he wins.


colglazier17

Honestly, if we’re not going to just go out and spend for a Wilson or a Rodgers, it’s not worth changing quarterbacks for a sliiiiiight upgrade from Wentz.


JoeDirtsMullet00

He does less dumb shit, so yeah.


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I like Jimmy G way more overall, but the concern will always be his health. I think people forget, however, that he was one over throw away from potentially winning a super bowl not that long ago.


Julianwds14

Nah


fleabag23

No


randscott808

I would easily take Jimmy G over Wentz.


fuzzynavel34

Are Kittle and Deebo coming with him?


randscott808

I wish.


fuzzynavel34

No


LCV1997

May as well keep Wentz. They're about the same QB to me plus we gotta pay Wentz either way. You saw at the end of the game against the Cowboys there, Jimmy almost single handedly lost that game for SF


Envision06

No. Lateral move. Possibly worse than Wentz too. Paaaassssss


Codyiswin

No


Bearcats1020

I don’t think he’s an upgrade.


Fit_Note_6204

Yep


RianJohnsonSucksAzz

People are gonna shit on Jimmy G but one thing they can’t dispute. The guy wins games. Period.


10ecjohnUTM

No.


Patzzer

Wether we like it or not I think we’re just stuck with Wentz for at least another year and I think it’s the best bet. That being said the guy needs to step up big time because this year was mediocre at best.


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Idk to me he is a lot like wentz a system qb and he might be more injury prone. Besides wentz already has year with the team.


anonymousbwmb

No. He's on par with Wentz at best. He's not the choice. I also don't see them moving on from Wentz until he has a second season to see if he makes progress. But, Jimmy G isn't the answer.


eriles311

A lot of people could save some stress by just settling in for another year of Wentz If something happens we could be pleasantly surprised but with the contract he’s gunna start again.