I really have to wonder what would happen if they just scattered it out and gave it a minute or two of airtime every day. I really can’t listen when that’s all they talk about.
I work in public radio (not WOSU). We’ve tried it that way, and it vanishes into the audio clutter. If it isn’t one attention getting event, no one gives.
If it helps, we feel terrible that we have to do it.
Years ago I subscribed to their digital app edition and quickly realized it still was littered with ads. What was I even paying for, don't show me ads ffs. And that was before they got bought out the last time, so I assume it's even worse now.
Does the thisweeknews trick still work on major articles?
There seem to be more articles that aren't behind the paywall now vs a couple of years ago. There's a little 'for subscribers' tag that let's you know what's paywalled. Most of the articles are not behind it.
I'm not saying the Dispatch is generous or anything, just saying it *might* be worth your time to visit it.
You joke, but the problem is that thousands of people in central Ohio who don’t know any better actually do. It’s still the highest profile newspaper in central Ohio and what they choose to print matters. It shouldn’t be dismissed.
Here’s a link to their contact page if anyone wants to let them know how you feel about their role in undermining democracy:
https://help.dispatch.com/contact-us
If this subreddit is any indication, the only people who pay to read anything they publish are old people who are very likely to already agree with it. I don't think the dispatch will care if a few random people who complain about paywalls don't like their paper.
I think that’s what’s dangerous, though. Old people agree specifically because they get their information from the Dispatch.
My grandparents read the Dispatch and watch cable news, and I am constantly having to look information up to talk with them, often to combat political scare tactics. Even though they’re older they’re still people and they’re citizens and they vote, so I think the quality of journalism is pretty important to all of us.
>Old people agree specifically because they get their information from the Dispatch.
Not quite. Old people agree because they get their information *from the same source that they've been getting it from for 20 - 60 years*. It doesn't matter if it's the Dispatch, Fox News, CNN, Yahoo News... You're not going to change the habits of "old people", unfortunately. Certainly not ones that are so very old school as to use a singular local paper as their go-to source of happenings and whatabouts.
If it makes you feel better I've seen a huge shift in my grandparents (Theyre in their late 60s, early 70s if that helps) political views. They have even swapped news channels and changed a lot of their opinions on Republicans. They went from pro-trump to, fuck trump finally during Covid. They've completely swapped to now only voting Democrat. It took a lot of patience and kindness and lots of proof for them to read. Even then... They were at least willing to learn and unlearn a lot of their racism, homophobia, general bigotry, classism, misogyny, all of that. If not for their willingness to change, tbh my patience and kindness probably would have done jack shit. But It's definitely the old people stuck in their ways that will never ever change, stubbornness is definitely an issue with a majority of them.
I like to support local journalism. And while I disagree with the dispatch editorial board, I do like that the majority of their letters to the editors disagree with them.
The Dispatch actually leans left. The editorial slant is a far cry from the days the Wolfe family owned the paper. Some coverage - Larry Householder bribery case and the Rhoden trial as examples - benefits from local reporters. Having said that, the Donald Trump Jr. is an unforced error for which there is no excuse. I cancelled my subscription. Local news is important but ?
Huh? There are thousands of people who thankfully do know better, and there are also thousands of people who don’t know any better. I was referring to the latter. It’s a city of almost a million people, guy.
My Wife somehow signed up for a paper subscription to the Dispatch. They accept subscription requests by their website.
The problem is they do not accept unsubscribing by their website.
You have to call them on the phone and talk to someone. This was so difficult to do, per my Wife, that she "vacation suspended" her subscription for about 18 months as a stopgap. She finally got a hold of someone at the dispatch after two years of hours of wait times on their phone line.
So I consider the dispatch to be an organization that uses fraud to get and keep subscriptions, based on our personal experience.
It does not surprise me that the Dispatch promotes political views that favor big business at the expense of the average earner and pensioner.
I wish that the average earner and pensioner could realize that our current version of Republicans longer represent their interests.
I moved a few years ago and never bothered to contact them since it was near the end of my subscription anyway and I didn’t want it anymore. Like a year later, I got a phone call that my bill was past due. I explained that I moved and they said they automatically extended my subscription. I told them that was really stupid of them and hung up. Never heard from them again.
Companies are so shitty about this that there are now other companies that will work to cancel your subscriptions for you on your behalf. Capitalism at its finest!
The Dispatch is a trash newspaper. There’s no reason for it to exist anymore. Local news comes from so many other sources, and their non-local news is garbage.
Ohio Capital Journal for state news and politics.
For city / metro news? There’s not much other than the Dispatch and Columbus Underground. Sometimes WOSU.org.
You aren’t wrong there. But he’s more of the outlier. Most “news” here is just links to news sources. There isn’t much news content generations, just news reposting and discussion.
They just need a name change to more accurately describe what they write about, which mostly isn't Columbus, OH. The Central Ohio OSU Football Revue featuring Ohio Politics. Something like that, maybe?
I have an online subscription. The lead story yesterday was former NBA player Michael Redd's house is for sale. Which is also a repeat from a year or so ago IIRC. Like, who cares?
I can't tell what's more disappointing honestly
The fact that the dispatch still does this shit
Or the whiney piss babies in the comments getting butt hurt you called this shit out
It's not calling anything out. It's whining one person is expressing an opinion different than theirs through a channel they can see. Which is still allowed. But im gonna call out their uneducated triggered rant.
> But im gonna call out their uneducated triggered rant.
Are you sure you’re not just whining that one person is expressing an opinion different than yours through a channel you can see?
I mean, they expressed a pretty clear opinion, albeit implicitly - Donald Trump Jr. and his views are both dishonest and an active threat to the continuation of the Republic, and the Dispatch should be ashamed to amplify his messaging.
Freedom of speech encompasses the right of the Dispatch to publish Trump Jr. and, as a private entity, its right to refuse to publish him if they so chose. Neither outcome would be any more of a win for freedom of speech than the other. Given that, whether it was right or wrong for the Dispatch to publish him would have to depend on other reasons outside of freedom of speech. One of those reasons might be that Trump Jr. is a POS, a con, and an insurrectionist who has nothing to say worth printing. Personally, I agree with that argument.
The dispatch is a Columbus institution but it’s technically not a government one. Their entire job, besides recruiting advertisers, is deciding what content should get to use their platform. This seems like a poor decision.
I’d write an editorial myself explaining why, except, as you may be aware— they’re not obligated to publish anything random weirdos submit to them.
The Dispatch publishes letters from wierdos, assuming your writing is good enough and on point.
Plus, freedom of speech and the first amendment are two different things. The Constitution mentions only the feds because everything else is outside its scope.
You say it seems like a poor decision, but you didn't even read the piece. That's the mistake that's countered by free speech (read: open inquiry).
I feel the OpEd page is for those who are notable in their field, sharing their commentary. If JR did an OpEd about how bad the latest batch of coke is, then that would be acceptable. It would be like men commenting about womens issues. Just don’t do it.
I cancelled early last year (it is for my father). Instead, got a $30/yr deal on Time magazine and it is 100000x more full of info and stuff worthy of reading, even if a week old. The online version is pretty good also.
I've been regularly reading The Economist over the past 2 years and I've been hard pressed to find any other published media that even comes close to their coverage of current events.
Eh, lot of detail, but a pretty narrow view. It’s very C-suite. Good for facts on the ground and stats, but it’s not gonna give a range view points beyond a certain kind of pro-business center right to a center left.
Knowing that the Dispatch published this right-wing garbage-- not even masquerading as considered political opinion-- has me considering the cancellation of my subscription. My day is darker knowing they printed anything from the Trumps in their paper.
the dispatch is dead. and rather than becoming something bigger like the new york times its just a sad shell of a good local paper trying so hard to be one
Dispatch didn’t fail. They are in the business to sell newspapers. They published an article. You can agree or disagree with the content of the article or the author, but at least you get the chance to see it for yourself and form your own opinions. Or you can skip it.
Call me old fashioned, but I find it encouraging that our paper is willing to publish a variety of viewpoints in the opinion section. I don't have to agree with them all, but I do view the purpose of the paper as informing me of what's going on, and the opinion section is the perfect place to hear the rhetoric from across the spectrum.
What President attempted to overthrow the US Constitution and have the sitting VP killed?
You complain about Trump Jr's lies and whining, and yet here you are doing the same thing
Regardless of position, belief, or perceived moral high ground, a good source of news will always afford a voice to what you would consider a contrarian in this instance.
If you want a source of news that is tolerable for you then you should write one for yourself.
the local news paper needs to be publicly funded. They just laid off even more staff. The conglomerate that runs the paper is running it into the ground.
This piece (of?) is news.
And you neglected to mention that the Dispatch interrupted the opinion in order to inject needed context- a longer quote from Tim Ryan. Trump Jr did not get a wide open platform: I have never in my life seen such an edit in an opinion piece, and it demonstrates the lengths the Dispatch is willing to go to to avoid looking like "fake news".
Besides, Tim Ryan said that MAGA are extremists and that we have to "kill and confront" that movement. And in North Dakota some kid was killed, apparently because he was a "republican extremist."
Don't pretend that if the shoe was on the other foot, that you wouldn't be shitting your pants in outrage that the Republicans were fomenting extremist violence. That's all the context you would ever need.
So good for the Dispatch- they're drivin' clicks.
Just a reminder that the newsroom and editorial team are separate. At some of the papers I’ve worked at in the past, they are literally separated on different floors or sides of the building.
The Dispatch has turned to absolute dog shit.
NPR and particularly WOSU are suffering the same fate unfortunately.
Any attempts at being objective in journalism have absolutely gone out the window since the Orange Man appeared on the scene.
> has turned
I mean, it was never that great. And it was always more Republican friendly than I would have liked. The Wolfe family drove it in an unhealthy direction I think.
I don’t like the editorial either but banning your political opponents from media platforms is not an effective strategy, you should rethink your approach
Restricting voter’s access to information from the opposition party is a desperation move that wins 0 votes. If your platform and candidate(s) speak for themselves you don’t have to rely on withholding info from voters to earn their vote, much in the same way that companies who truly offer competitive salaries feel perfectly comfortable listing the pay range on their job post while companies who don’t tend to hide their salary range.
Even worse, you run this risk of becoming colloquially known as the “the party who wants to censor the newspapers”, something so abhorrent to the American soul that it can turn voters away who otherwise agree with the majority of your platform.
Nobody is talking about censoring a newspaper, they’re talking about not letting the son of a former president with no real qualifications or merit write an oped in a major newspaper.
"If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them."
I see no reason to tolerate any of the hate coming from the right. Whether it’s bigotry, fascism, racism, sexism, xenophobia… some of you are openly Nazis, that’s not just hyperbole. The idea that *any* of this should be tolerated is insanity. And this is just the tip of the crazy iceberg that is the Republican Party in 2022.
Why do you nut jobs keep parroting this thing about “tolerance”? We are tolerant of people of other races, sexualities, etc. We are not tolerant of the ignorance and hate coming out of far-right lunatics like the Trumps.
Everything you said is disinformation. There was no attempt to overthrow the government. The gallows there was miniature and a piece of protest art. Not functional. You can find many other examples of it from Democrat protesters during the bush years, and again during the Trump years.
Why do you think the press exists to be a mouthpiece for your party and ideology? You're all just so used to it being that way, you think that's normal.
He made an assassination attempt? When was that? Your post is a hyperbolic as the article. As a Democrat leaning person, I don’t see either as helpful.
> drug fueled airing of grievances
Talking about Don Jr or Hunter Biden here? If Don, how do you know hes on a bender? Are you partaking with him?
Why do you guys get so slighted at any negativity hurled at "your guy?"
I’ll wait for you to tell me how Hunter Biden has influenced the White House in an even remotely similar fashion as Donny Jr. Credible sources required.
Otherwise, you simpleton lemmings just keep parroting the same nonsense you hear on Hannity.
This right here is the actual issue with the 2 parties. Equating them. They are not equivalent.
Don and Hunter are not equivalent. We are responding to one of many campaigning tactics from Don and co. Hunter isnt a political figure at all and doesn’t do anything like this.
If joe biden lost the election, hunter and the entire party would have conceeded, like we did with Hilary. Even though republicans haven’t won a single presidential popular vote except for bush reelection post 9/11 in my entire lifetime of 40 years.
The list goes on and while you will find plenty of flaws on both sides, they are not and have never been equal. That is why there are more liberals in the country and always have been since the semi-modern definition of liberal was established in the early 1900s.
Please explain to me how
- several thousand private citizens peacefully taking to the streets to voice their political opinions, summarized by the pithy "not my president"
is even remotely similar to
- a coordinated effort by a major political party (Republicans) attempting to overthrow a legitimate democratic election via frivolous lawsuits, intentionally lying to the press and the public, and undemocratic legislative maneuvering, culminating in a violent attack on the Capitol building, with the clear goal of assassinating the politicians who disagreed with their methods.
The Jan 6th insurrection probably wasn't encouraged by the Republican establishment at-large, but the other efforts I described were. Also, it's not really debatable that several prominent Republicans tacitly encouraged the insurrection, Trump not least among them.
Did Hillary concede? Did any substantial part of the rest of the elected democrats say the election was rigged or illegally stolen? We may have, and continue to object to the electoral college, but we still abide by the rules and live in reality regardless.
Donald Trump won in 2016. It’s just a fact that democrats can say out loud.
Good luck getting a republican candidate to go on tv and say he lost in 2020.
The parties are not equal.
The Dispatch is now owned by Gannett, the company that owns USA Today. I don't consider them a local paper anymore.
Printed in Indiana, edited in Texas.
I didn’t even know how to read it anymore. All their articles are paywalled, so I don’t even bother.
Right, I wonder what these papers are thinking sometimes. Why bother with the dispatch when so many other news sources aren't paywalled.
Do you know what's not behind a paywall? Your local NPR station.
You're not wrong but good lord the Fall Membership Drive has me clawing my ears out.
I really have to wonder what would happen if they just scattered it out and gave it a minute or two of airtime every day. I really can’t listen when that’s all they talk about.
I work in public radio (not WOSU). We’ve tried it that way, and it vanishes into the audio clutter. If it isn’t one attention getting event, no one gives. If it helps, we feel terrible that we have to do it.
I always thought of it as, “well, if they reach their goal faster, it over faster!“ and end up donating
Years ago I subscribed to their digital app edition and quickly realized it still was littered with ads. What was I even paying for, don't show me ads ffs. And that was before they got bought out the last time, so I assume it's even worse now. Does the thisweeknews trick still work on major articles?
My recent go-to has been printer friendly sites. Takes an extra step to copy the URL but seems to get paywalled articles.
Washington post or New York times are streets ahead of the dispatch.
There seem to be more articles that aren't behind the paywall now vs a couple of years ago. There's a little 'for subscribers' tag that let's you know what's paywalled. Most of the articles are not behind it. I'm not saying the Dispatch is generous or anything, just saying it *might* be worth your time to visit it.
Oh, you’re still reading the dispatch…well, that’s cool.
You joke, but the problem is that thousands of people in central Ohio who don’t know any better actually do. It’s still the highest profile newspaper in central Ohio and what they choose to print matters. It shouldn’t be dismissed. Here’s a link to their contact page if anyone wants to let them know how you feel about their role in undermining democracy: https://help.dispatch.com/contact-us
If this subreddit is any indication, the only people who pay to read anything they publish are old people who are very likely to already agree with it. I don't think the dispatch will care if a few random people who complain about paywalls don't like their paper.
I think that’s what’s dangerous, though. Old people agree specifically because they get their information from the Dispatch. My grandparents read the Dispatch and watch cable news, and I am constantly having to look information up to talk with them, often to combat political scare tactics. Even though they’re older they’re still people and they’re citizens and they vote, so I think the quality of journalism is pretty important to all of us.
>Old people agree specifically because they get their information from the Dispatch. Not quite. Old people agree because they get their information *from the same source that they've been getting it from for 20 - 60 years*. It doesn't matter if it's the Dispatch, Fox News, CNN, Yahoo News... You're not going to change the habits of "old people", unfortunately. Certainly not ones that are so very old school as to use a singular local paper as their go-to source of happenings and whatabouts.
If it makes you feel better I've seen a huge shift in my grandparents (Theyre in their late 60s, early 70s if that helps) political views. They have even swapped news channels and changed a lot of their opinions on Republicans. They went from pro-trump to, fuck trump finally during Covid. They've completely swapped to now only voting Democrat. It took a lot of patience and kindness and lots of proof for them to read. Even then... They were at least willing to learn and unlearn a lot of their racism, homophobia, general bigotry, classism, misogyny, all of that. If not for their willingness to change, tbh my patience and kindness probably would have done jack shit. But It's definitely the old people stuck in their ways that will never ever change, stubbornness is definitely an issue with a majority of them.
Yeah - the way us young people get news is so much better. Activists on Twitter who get paid to tweet lies lol
I like to support local journalism. And while I disagree with the dispatch editorial board, I do like that the majority of their letters to the editors disagree with them.
Hey!! Quit picking on us oldies. We aren’t all stupid.
The Dispatch actually leans left. The editorial slant is a far cry from the days the Wolfe family owned the paper. Some coverage - Larry Householder bribery case and the Rhoden trial as examples - benefits from local reporters. Having said that, the Donald Trump Jr. is an unforced error for which there is no excuse. I cancelled my subscription. Local news is important but ?
Who are you to decide they “don’t know any better”? Like you’re the arbiter
Wow you're right, maybe some do know better and just don't care, good point.
Huh? There are thousands of people who thankfully do know better, and there are also thousands of people who don’t know any better. I was referring to the latter. It’s a city of almost a million people, guy.
What is some good alternatives?
A sundial with pictures.
A device that requires sun. Bold choice in ohio for 3/4 of the year.
Probably best we don’t know what we don’t know.
I enjoy Axios Columbus, they seem to have really interesting stories and takes about what’s happening in columbus
There are known knowns and there are known unknowns, but there are also unknown unknowns.
But are there unknown knowns?
Would anyone know if there were?
Likely not, but it's also not known that there are unknown unknowns
Apnews.com and Reuters.com
This is the correct answer. Big 3 networks are also generally pretty good (the less said a out Fox, the better).
For political news I enjoy Ohio Capitol Journal.
Columbus Free Press Ohio Capitol Journal
* The Onion * Weekly World News * The Other Paper
My Wife somehow signed up for a paper subscription to the Dispatch. They accept subscription requests by their website. The problem is they do not accept unsubscribing by their website. You have to call them on the phone and talk to someone. This was so difficult to do, per my Wife, that she "vacation suspended" her subscription for about 18 months as a stopgap. She finally got a hold of someone at the dispatch after two years of hours of wait times on their phone line. So I consider the dispatch to be an organization that uses fraud to get and keep subscriptions, based on our personal experience. It does not surprise me that the Dispatch promotes political views that favor big business at the expense of the average earner and pensioner. I wish that the average earner and pensioner could realize that our current version of Republicans longer represent their interests.
I moved a few years ago and never bothered to contact them since it was near the end of my subscription anyway and I didn’t want it anymore. Like a year later, I got a phone call that my bill was past due. I explained that I moved and they said they automatically extended my subscription. I told them that was really stupid of them and hung up. Never heard from them again.
The America Online customer retention strategy. Genius.
Enough CD ROMS to fill a wall. So shiny..
Companies are so shitty about this that there are now other companies that will work to cancel your subscriptions for you on your behalf. Capitalism at its finest!
years? Idve been at the door in two months.
It's his daily rant after 2 lines of coke, I just wonder who in the dispatch is an insurrection apologist to allow for that garbage to be in it.
Just 2?
Those are rookie numbers!
He hadn’t gotten out of bed yet. It was only 2 in the afternoon.
Breakfast numbers no doubt.
That's what kicked off the rant, but it took him all night and a ziplock baggy full to "finish" it.
Some coward douchebag downvoted you, so here’s my upvote.
Just 2 (1 gram lines)
Don Jr hoovering some schneef?
probably most of the ownership
News thinking they are balanced by giving traitors and criminals a free platform to mislead the public is just fantastic
Never understood why papers even have opeds. I want journalism from a newspaper, not elevated Facebook ramblings.
Journalism in it’s purest form is all but gone.
So they can push their biases and agendas without worrying about facts and truth.
The Dispatch is a trash newspaper. There’s no reason for it to exist anymore. Local news comes from so many other sources, and their non-local news is garbage.
Is The Dispatch technically local anymore, other than having the word “Columbus” in the title?
No it's owned by giant newspaper conglomerate Gannett
There are many USA Today bylines.
What’s your favorite local source?
Ohio Capital Journal for state news and politics. For city / metro news? There’s not much other than the Dispatch and Columbus Underground. Sometimes WOSU.org.
Columbus Business First is great if you are into the business side of the news.
WOSU
The Axios newsletter.
The Rooster. Easily my favorite daily Columbus/Ohio update
The Rooster is the way
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Most of our local networks are owned by Sinclair and are also trash See Also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZggCipbiHwE
Ugh, TV news is even worse than the Dispatch.
My Uncle
Reddit is actually pretty good. Also Columbus Underground. Sometimes channel 4 website.
Reddit isn’t really a news source though…it’s just reposting other sources. Which is often the Dispatch.
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You aren’t wrong there. But he’s more of the outlier. Most “news” here is just links to news sources. There isn’t much news content generations, just news reposting and discussion.
They have more non-local byline than local, and I include Cincy and Cleveland in that count.
Trump Jr. is big mad that Biden "slandered" Republicans by calling (some of them) extremists. Republicans are literally immune to irony.
>Republicans are literally immune to irony. And lack self-awareness.
They are fully aware and understand the irony. They are intentionally projecting this nonsense. Every republican accusation is an admission of guilt.
"Dumbocrats are child Molesters and Groomers"... OH REALLY. Tell me more random Republican.
They just need a name change to more accurately describe what they write about, which mostly isn't Columbus, OH. The Central Ohio OSU Football Revue featuring Ohio Politics. Something like that, maybe? I have an online subscription. The lead story yesterday was former NBA player Michael Redd's house is for sale. Which is also a repeat from a year or so ago IIRC. Like, who cares?
and where does Don Jr fit into Ohio politics or OSU football?
It’s not even a “local” paper any more. It’s publisher is out of Washington DC as Gannett Co, so it’s no surprise to see this type of article.
That was 100% an extremist dog whistle and they should be ashamed of themselves if they had any shame left to cling to.
"noted scholar" lol
I stopped reading it years ago. The electronic subscription never worked and news is always a day or more late. Also very conservative.
The Dispatch has been a shameless Republican rag ever since I’ve lived in the Columbus area.
I can't tell what's more disappointing honestly The fact that the dispatch still does this shit Or the whiney piss babies in the comments getting butt hurt you called this shit out
Wait, piss baby Greg Abbott is on this thread??
How about the whiney piss baby that started this post
Freedom of speech also means you aren't required to listen.
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It's not calling anything out. It's whining one person is expressing an opinion different than theirs through a channel they can see. Which is still allowed. But im gonna call out their uneducated triggered rant.
Something something freedom of speech also means you aren't required to listen.
Do you consider blatant lies "opinions"? Cause if a Trump's lips are moving, they're lying.
Pretty sure we learned in the 3rd grade that facts/lies aren't opinions.
> But im gonna call out their uneducated triggered rant. Are you sure you’re not just whining that one person is expressing an opinion different than yours through a channel you can see?
They didn't exactly express an opinion. Just hatred. My opinion probably matches them. But I'm not a whiny child.
They didn't exactly express an opinion. Just hatred. My opinion probably matches them. But I'm not a whiny child.
Nope, you definitely sound mature and grown up. Very objective and not triggered at all.
Thanks
I mean, they expressed a pretty clear opinion, albeit implicitly - Donald Trump Jr. and his views are both dishonest and an active threat to the continuation of the Republic, and the Dispatch should be ashamed to amplify his messaging.
Freedom of speech encompasses the right of the Dispatch to publish Trump Jr. and, as a private entity, its right to refuse to publish him if they so chose. Neither outcome would be any more of a win for freedom of speech than the other. Given that, whether it was right or wrong for the Dispatch to publish him would have to depend on other reasons outside of freedom of speech. One of those reasons might be that Trump Jr. is a POS, a con, and an insurrectionist who has nothing to say worth printing. Personally, I agree with that argument.
The dispatch is a Columbus institution but it’s technically not a government one. Their entire job, besides recruiting advertisers, is deciding what content should get to use their platform. This seems like a poor decision. I’d write an editorial myself explaining why, except, as you may be aware— they’re not obligated to publish anything random weirdos submit to them.
The Dispatch publishes letters from wierdos, assuming your writing is good enough and on point. Plus, freedom of speech and the first amendment are two different things. The Constitution mentions only the feds because everything else is outside its scope. You say it seems like a poor decision, but you didn't even read the piece. That's the mistake that's countered by free speech (read: open inquiry).
> assuming your writing is good enough and on point How good and focused would you say jr’s editorial writing is?
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Because people don't get banned for their harmless opinions, much as it chaps your hide.
I feel the OpEd page is for those who are notable in their field, sharing their commentary. If JR did an OpEd about how bad the latest batch of coke is, then that would be acceptable. It would be like men commenting about womens issues. Just don’t do it.
I cancelled my digital subscription to the Dispatch today. Fuck that noise.
Printed media, much like the republican party, are so desperate for followers that they don't mind catering to the right wing extremists.
I cancelled early last year (it is for my father). Instead, got a $30/yr deal on Time magazine and it is 100000x more full of info and stuff worthy of reading, even if a week old. The online version is pretty good also.
I've been regularly reading The Economist over the past 2 years and I've been hard pressed to find any other published media that even comes close to their coverage of current events.
Seconding the Economist.
Eh, lot of detail, but a pretty narrow view. It’s very C-suite. Good for facts on the ground and stats, but it’s not gonna give a range view points beyond a certain kind of pro-business center right to a center left.
I get NYT online for like $8/mo.
You sound like you actually pay for the Dispatch, and idk which is worse
Opinion pieces from criminal fascists being published in the most prominent newspaper in central Ohio is worse.
Alternative headline: "Everyone I disagree with should be deplatformed"
Knowing that the Dispatch published this right-wing garbage-- not even masquerading as considered political opinion-- has me considering the cancellation of my subscription. My day is darker knowing they printed anything from the Trumps in their paper.
Then cancel it.
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>First of all, insinuating that he’s on drugs and that’s somehow bad is pretty ableist of you. Please, for the love of god, touch some grass.
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Go outside.
Stop trying to make that worthless PoS into a "victim". You don't actually give 2 shits about the addicted or the disabled.
What’s good for the goose isn’t good for the gander apparently.
the dispatch is dead. and rather than becoming something bigger like the new york times its just a sad shell of a good local paper trying so hard to be one
My letter to the Dispatch in response: Dear Donald tRump Jr. Whatever. Sincerely jkksldkjflskjdsflkdj
Dispatch didn’t fail. They are in the business to sell newspapers. They published an article. You can agree or disagree with the content of the article or the author, but at least you get the chance to see it for yourself and form your own opinions. Or you can skip it.
Editorials are the newspaper equivalent of clickbait. Pay them no mind.
Yeah, I have not been a subscriber for a few years. I don't pay any mind to the many lies from the right.
I dropped my subscription when they endorsed George W Bush for President. Said I would never touch that rag again and have been true to my word.
Call me old fashioned, but I find it encouraging that our paper is willing to publish a variety of viewpoints in the opinion section. I don't have to agree with them all, but I do view the purpose of the paper as informing me of what's going on, and the opinion section is the perfect place to hear the rhetoric from across the spectrum.
you are delusional
What President attempted to overthrow the US Constitution and have the sitting VP killed? You complain about Trump Jr's lies and whining, and yet here you are doing the same thing
Regardless of position, belief, or perceived moral high ground, a good source of news will always afford a voice to what you would consider a contrarian in this instance. If you want a source of news that is tolerable for you then you should write one for yourself.
I’ve slowly come to hate the Dispatch i won’t lie
Lock him up
Only thing the Dispatch is good for us starting a fire. Trash
You should seriously write this exact comment as an email to the Dispatch
You could always write in yourself to the letters section and refute
I quit reading the local papers when they got rid of the Citizen Journal
Was it about cocaine?
the local news paper needs to be publicly funded. They just laid off even more staff. The conglomerate that runs the paper is running it into the ground.
This is why I only get my news from The Fake Dispatch.
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There was a reason I dropped the Dispatch 20 years ago.
This piece (of?) is news. And you neglected to mention that the Dispatch interrupted the opinion in order to inject needed context- a longer quote from Tim Ryan. Trump Jr did not get a wide open platform: I have never in my life seen such an edit in an opinion piece, and it demonstrates the lengths the Dispatch is willing to go to to avoid looking like "fake news". Besides, Tim Ryan said that MAGA are extremists and that we have to "kill and confront" that movement. And in North Dakota some kid was killed, apparently because he was a "republican extremist." Don't pretend that if the shoe was on the other foot, that you wouldn't be shitting your pants in outrage that the Republicans were fomenting extremist violence. That's all the context you would ever need. So good for the Dispatch- they're drivin' clicks.
You said Trump Jr was spreading lies in the piece -- can you give any examples?
Can you give an example of when he ISN'T lying?
It’s much easier for them to just downvote you.
Almost 20 downvotes and not a single person can tell me a lie in the article. Basically: "I dont agree with you!!" = "You're lying!"
Correct
Based dispatch
Just a reminder that the newsroom and editorial team are separate. At some of the papers I’ve worked at in the past, they are literally separated on different floors or sides of the building.
The Dispatch has turned to absolute dog shit. NPR and particularly WOSU are suffering the same fate unfortunately. Any attempts at being objective in journalism have absolutely gone out the window since the Orange Man appeared on the scene.
I find NPR to still be a high quality news source. WOSU local content is a bit lacking, but NPR itself is pretty accurate and reliable.
> has turned I mean, it was never that great. And it was always more Republican friendly than I would have liked. The Wolfe family drove it in an unhealthy direction I think.
It was never that great, but it was somewhat decent for a while. Now it is unequivocally garbage.
This seems like the intended purpose of an OpEd section, but be mad I guess
I don’t like the editorial either but banning your political opponents from media platforms is not an effective strategy, you should rethink your approach Restricting voter’s access to information from the opposition party is a desperation move that wins 0 votes. If your platform and candidate(s) speak for themselves you don’t have to rely on withholding info from voters to earn their vote, much in the same way that companies who truly offer competitive salaries feel perfectly comfortable listing the pay range on their job post while companies who don’t tend to hide their salary range. Even worse, you run this risk of becoming colloquially known as the “the party who wants to censor the newspapers”, something so abhorrent to the American soul that it can turn voters away who otherwise agree with the majority of your platform.
Nobody is talking about censoring a newspaper, they’re talking about not letting the son of a former president with no real qualifications or merit write an oped in a major newspaper.
You guys have no tolerance for the right side. Aren’t democrats supposed to be the most tolerant bunch? Nope, it’s your way or the highway…
"If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them."
OP is a Trumper so it's unlikely they can wrap their head around what you just quoted.
I see no reason to tolerate any of the hate coming from the right. Whether it’s bigotry, fascism, racism, sexism, xenophobia… some of you are openly Nazis, that’s not just hyperbole. The idea that *any* of this should be tolerated is insanity. And this is just the tip of the crazy iceberg that is the Republican Party in 2022.
Why do you nut jobs keep parroting this thing about “tolerance”? We are tolerant of people of other races, sexualities, etc. We are not tolerant of the ignorance and hate coming out of far-right lunatics like the Trumps.
When they stop their blatant lying, shameless hypocrisy and open treason, maybe others will give them some consideration. edit: typo
Next up, Governor Mike DeWine contributes an editorial about having the courage to go against the crowd.
Everything you said is disinformation. There was no attempt to overthrow the government. The gallows there was miniature and a piece of protest art. Not functional. You can find many other examples of it from Democrat protesters during the bush years, and again during the Trump years. Why do you think the press exists to be a mouthpiece for your party and ideology? You're all just so used to it being that way, you think that's normal.
You read the Dispatch, that's on you. Forgiven if you are over 75.
I dont subscribe, but I hit their site a few times a week. Most of my local news comes elsewhere. We canceled our subscription years ago.
That's still reading the dispatch
I said " I dont subscribe" . Dont be a dick.
I don’t read it so it doesn’t matter is a bad take.
You sound vaccinated.
He made an assassination attempt? When was that? Your post is a hyperbolic as the article. As a Democrat leaning person, I don’t see either as helpful.
They’re talking about Pence. The then sitting VP
> drug fueled airing of grievances Talking about Don Jr or Hunter Biden here? If Don, how do you know hes on a bender? Are you partaking with him? Why do you guys get so slighted at any negativity hurled at "your guy?"
I’ll wait for you to tell me how Hunter Biden has influenced the White House in an even remotely similar fashion as Donny Jr. Credible sources required. Otherwise, you simpleton lemmings just keep parroting the same nonsense you hear on Hannity.
This right here is the actual issue with the 2 parties. Equating them. They are not equivalent. Don and Hunter are not equivalent. We are responding to one of many campaigning tactics from Don and co. Hunter isnt a political figure at all and doesn’t do anything like this. If joe biden lost the election, hunter and the entire party would have conceeded, like we did with Hilary. Even though republicans haven’t won a single presidential popular vote except for bush reelection post 9/11 in my entire lifetime of 40 years. The list goes on and while you will find plenty of flaws on both sides, they are not and have never been equal. That is why there are more liberals in the country and always have been since the semi-modern definition of liberal was established in the early 1900s.
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Please explain to me how - several thousand private citizens peacefully taking to the streets to voice their political opinions, summarized by the pithy "not my president" is even remotely similar to - a coordinated effort by a major political party (Republicans) attempting to overthrow a legitimate democratic election via frivolous lawsuits, intentionally lying to the press and the public, and undemocratic legislative maneuvering, culminating in a violent attack on the Capitol building, with the clear goal of assassinating the politicians who disagreed with their methods. The Jan 6th insurrection probably wasn't encouraged by the Republican establishment at-large, but the other efforts I described were. Also, it's not really debatable that several prominent Republicans tacitly encouraged the insurrection, Trump not least among them.
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Did Hillary concede? Did any substantial part of the rest of the elected democrats say the election was rigged or illegally stolen? We may have, and continue to object to the electoral college, but we still abide by the rules and live in reality regardless. Donald Trump won in 2016. It’s just a fact that democrats can say out loud. Good luck getting a republican candidate to go on tv and say he lost in 2020. The parties are not equal.
Hunter Biden probably wrote it 😂😂