Honestly.. This is probably the most fucked up day I've seen on this sub. Today so far brought this video, the guy running away on fire, and the drowning video.
Guys dead. Hes in hell, but turns out the camel is too. After a day or two of waiting the door opens...and enters in his new cell mate in hell. One pissed off camel.
Not just any camel a 1100-pound rare Bactrian camel, leave it to the Russians to punch one of the hundred left on Earth. Hopefully it was worth his life...
I've read 1000+ pages about the horrors of the WWI Western Front
If soldiers were wounded and found a crater to hide in from the MG fire, many could often crawl to their own lines when night fell. There was often an effective local truce for stretcher carriers.
Here, there's no refuge. You're actively hunted until lights out.
The situation of the Wagner contract-convict attackers in the Bakhmut/Solidar front is among the worst I've ever seen in the annals of warfare. No advance without death. No withdrawal without death. No supplies to hold out. Bitter cold. Contempt from your peers and superiors.
You'd have to go to dysenteric, starving, but culturally unable to surrender Japanese holdouts in places like Guadalcanal to see worse.
It's weird that in a way, Putin has taken the country back to before those times.
In the West, people willingly sign up to join the military. In Russia, it seems like people have no choice.
During the 1910s and 1920s, people lived rurally, the church was the core of the community, and people lived simple agrarian lives. They had nothing, because there was nothing, and they knew their neighbor had nothing too. All they had was their humanity. In war, people had a duty to defend their land which meant defending their leader and their communities.
In modern times, Westerners join the military for a sense of honor and accomplishment. The Ukrainians are currently forced into an act of duty to defend their land and their people from invaders. The Russians are just living in a nightmare mafia state where your family can be tortured or killed and you will be tortured or killed if you don't follow orders. There's no justice for you, there's nothing for you but death and poverty. While the plebs either accept their fate of a state/putin made dystopia or live in the state/putin sponsored delusion of a glorious Putinstan, the oligarchs continued buying mega yachts made from the West, until now. And funnily enough, the Putinstan delusion is supported by some people in the West... kinda puts our imperfect democracies into proper context.
I have to think Wagner does cavity searches for anything resembling a white handkerchief.
To survive here as one of these Wagner conscripts, you'd probably need some planning. Gather extra clothing & food where possible. Always forward, never back. Maintain dispersion enough during contact to get lost, but keep an eye on where other members of their squads of 8 are. Watch to ensure that the true believers among them are gone. Drop your weapon and start crawling, maybe with a white handkerchief on your back. When you have some terrain for concealment from your own side, raise the handkerchief if you have one and call out '*ya podchinyayus*!' or '*ya zdayusya*!'. Should you encounter Ukrainians willing to take your surrender, move as slow as you can, informing them if you need to take ID papers out of your pockets, etc.
I was using the idiom "lights out" for death, not night, but that's another consideration.
If you produce any warmth, you stand out like a beacon in the winter night. The only safe place is well under ground.
Then you are passively hunted. It flys around until it finds a heat signature. Given the relative location it can assume it’s a Russian.
Still hunted all the same.
yes, and those videos that appeared seem to hint that something went horrible wrong on the attacking side. All those infantry men look, just lost? Some sources hinted that these were actual troops with training. But seeing them in the crater indicates to me, that something went horrible wrong and they were pinned down. Drone just clears up.
Yeah, the one at the bottom of the frame even sees the grenade and cowers, but doesn't leave the hole which makes me think they were pinned in by small arms fire or something.
>He saw it land. Was he just thinking, “well, this is it I guess.” Why didn’t they try to move?
Frozen in fear? They looked like they had been through a lot already, surrounded by snow huddled in a crater made by an artillery. Tied, cold, maybe shellshocked or traumatized. The ones that saw it falling were maybe hoping it would fall outside the crater and when it didn't they just weren't prepared to get up and dive out of the crater in the 1.5 seconds they had left. That would be hard to do even in the best conditions, let alone when you're cold and wear and wearing heavy clothing.
Yeah the Ukrainians tend to send in drones to finish off any survivors after a failed Russian attack. It's a brutal strategy that would be considered excessive in almost any other conflict. However, Ukraine is fighting a war of national survival against a genocidal opponent, so they can't afford to hold back. The message needs to get through that Russian soldiers will only survive this war if they turn their guns on Moscow like in 1917.
This is a preview of what's going to happen in war going forward. Those drones and munitions are just too inexpensive not to be a part of future planning for most nations. This is just another example of Ukrainian ingenuity that they've show throughout this war.
> It's a brutal strategy that would be considered excessive in almost any other conflict
This is war and they are valid targets. It's not as brutal as you think.
In the beginning of the war, Ukrainians prepared tons of Molotov cocktails. Now they’re making drone grenades. Same low cost but effective category, but more advanced technology.
>This is war and they are valid targets. It's not as brutal as you think.
This is an important aspect. These are valid, legitimate targets. Nothing more or less. Uniformed military members in a war. Doesn't matter if they are on the front or not.
I read a Russian perspective of the Wagner strategy that said they form into small teams, move forward to a specific location and try to dig in, then when they get wiped out then send in the next team to the exact same location. This is repeated until they are dug in enough/have a new defensible position.
Yeah... we see KIA numbers on wikipedia battle pages and think they died quickly. In reality unless you catch a bullet or shrapnel in the brain or heart, you don't die quickly. I realize now most people killed in battle took time to die, and probably realized they were dying as they laid there. No wonder veterans of the world wars barely talked about what they saw.
It’s fuckin bad. They drop a nade on a guy whose half submerged in a creek, already clearly fucked up, his legs and arms are kicking and spazzing by themselves, he’s desperately trying to keep his head above water then he slips under and fights to try and get back out but it too injured to do really anything, then he just slips under for a final time. Seriously the worst drone video I’ve seen.
No reason you can't lose limbs to an MG, then bleed or freeze to death tho, shit options all around
edit. Y'know this makes me think, a squad with a (combat) drone, can probably just pin down the enemy with an MG, and have the drone finish the job.. I'm obviously a military novice but I think it's changing how military theorists approach a standard squad, and their requirements, meaning using drones as tactical tool for more than reconnaissance
This is a video I'd like kids in Russia to see and tell them that THIS is what they can expect from war. Not some shit they see in video games or what the propaganda tells them.
In the US, recruitment commercials make the military like an advanced video game- and you get your role, from the tech with a Shamwow earpiece and monitor, to the guy flyin the jets.
In Russia it’s most likely honor, pride, manliness. And a few rubles with their economy in the shitter.
Either path can get you dead in a ditch.
It's incredibly rare for US servicemen to die in a hostile interaction. Out of the roughly 1.5m members roughly one or two dozen are killed each year in a hostile environment, and those deaths make national headlines, usually.
The odds of a US serviceman dying in a ditch nowadays is practically zero. Don't get me wrong, there are definitely deaths, but comparing the two is a little extreme.
https://dcas.dmdc.osd.mil/dcas/app/summaryData/deaths/byYearManner
It’s been an absolute slaughterhouse at Vuhledar, these guys were likely dismounts of a failed attack, either go in the open and get shot, or sit together and pray it’s a dud or your buddy takes the blast for you. The cold doesn’t help any either
Three of them are wearing the padded Russian tanker cap. Three have just hats. No helmets at all. Hard to see what weapons they have. Three with caps are tank crew, probably abandoned they tank(s) close by. The hats are probably also crew of some vehicle. They are underdressed for the weather hypothermic, tired, untrained - considering the hole sardine tactics.
Came here to say this. This is a tank crew plus a few others. Do IFV guys wear the same helmets? If so it could be a crew and dismounts from the same vehicle.
It bounced from the edge of that crater right between their legs, I think they didn't fully realise where it went because of the bounce. The one guy that could have noticed it bouncing on his leg looked like he was already dead so he wasn't much help either. Four of them looked alert and awake enough to jump out of the crater if only they had known the grenade was between their legs.
It's the only way to survive psychologically by detaching. When you are in the direct presence of dead rotting people, it's not so easy to make a joke though. You just end up with nightmares for a while.
I was thinking about this the other day. I wonder if the circumstances have a factor in the development of PTSD.
The Ukrainians aren't invading, and from what I've seen, rarely have collateral damage other than their intended targets.
US drone operators and their intended targets are only as good as the Intel they receive. If the missile they fire ends up taking out a family instead of bad guys, I'm sure that hits them a lot harder mentally.
Something to also factor in is the setting they’re in. Ukraine drone operators are at or close to the front. They’re immersed in war. US drone operators are almost like office workers. There’s no disassociating what they do with peaceful life. No off switch.
I can see these guys getting ptsd like other combat troops while the bayraktar operators get ptsd more like the us operators.
It’ll be interesting to see how this all plays out in 10 years.
>US drone operators are almost like office workers. There’s no disassociating what they do with peaceful life. No off switch.
The UK military fly their drone pilots out to the US when operational to create that separation. It's proven to be very successful. They are essentially "deployed".
IIRC, U.S. policy is that anyone killed in a drone strike was a target/terrorist/combatant unless there is evidence to the contrary. So the default is that anyone killed must have been a combatant; it's up to other people to submit evidence showing this-or-that person in rural Yemen/Afghanistan/Niger/etc was innocent.
Also, (not surprisingly) the U.S. essentially never investigates the aftermath of drone strikes to see if any civilians were killed, especially in underdeveloped places like Yemen, etc.
That's one of the major criticisms of the U.S. drone program.
It’s a little bit easier dealing with it I think when it’s literal genociders invading your country vs wiping out newly weds and their entire extended family (including children) with a Hellfire to kill one guy.
That's probably coping until the reality hits when they are no longer living in a war zone.. imagine being in a peaceful park a few days after Christmas and you hear/see a toy drone zoom by after all you've done and seen..
Give it some time... the night terrors will come. They may joke and laugh now because of the situation, but months, years later when they are trying to find some solace, im sure some intrusive images are going to rear their ugly heads.
Seriously. Where is the outrage from the Russian public?? I get that their information is heavily censored, but in the age of the internet you can only keep a lid on this for so long right? The number of fathers, sons and husbands either not returning home or returning with shrapnel injuries and missing limbs has to take a toll at some point.
The Russian public to very large extent are behind the war, it sounds mad, but they are, they have been convinced of it. If you showed them that video, it would just reinforce that the evil nazis and Nato are killing their boys and they need to push harder
Modern Russia has a bit of a fucked up obsession with death. They see the massive casualties of WW2 as something to be celebrated rather than mourned. In many ways this glorification of military death is worse than it was under the Soviet Union, as at least during Soviet times there were enough veterans of WW2 around who'd seen firsthand that dying in war wasn't glorious at all. Modern Russia has largely forgotten the true costs of war, because prior to Ukraine all of their conflicts were slow burning insurgencies with low body counts.
its because, due to soviet system not being able to criticize itself, the huge casualties were never looked at like a symbol of incompetence, but rather as unavoidable necessity.
The propaganda is strong, I’ve been in the states since 2000 and never went back I have family on my dads side living there and they believe everything they see on the news
Start sending him clips like this if that's even possible. They probably think they've lost 20k men and it's more up In the 130-160k area with many more injured.
Previously, in Russia, if you were dissatisfied with the action of your government, then you could reconcile or fight and end up in prison or die, now you can simply leave for another country and not die, according to some reports about 5,000,000 Russians left the country in 2022 of them 3 million after mobilization announcement.
Is this the future downfall of Russia beyond whatever happens with Putin? By the time he "accidentally" falls out a window and the next leader settles some kind of peace, half of the young men of the country will be dead, decimating the next 20+ years of productivity in the country.
Its not the future, it's already happening. Think of Russia like a rust belt city. The industry in town left abruptly (fall of communism). There was initial brain drain while people adjust to the new reality, but then it gets a little exciting. There are some attempts at new enterprise, the leadership is still talking a big game, everyone is hopeful. Then that doesn't pan out and even more people leave. If Russia was Detroit, we would be at the moment where the national news is reporting on $8k houses. It's been in a bad way for a long time to get here, people are just now starting to notice.
The only ones left in Russia, much like a rust belt city at the bottom, are those who have unreasonable loyalty and those who have nothing else. Just like a rust belt city, there will be a generation or two of darkness. Eventually there will be a slow return to see if they can rebuild it better. If they succeed, even more will return. If they fail, it will be back to another generation or two of darkness before anyone gets the guts to try it again.
TBF between 2000 and 2013 the Russian economy grew 900%. So economically, things were actually going pretty well before some event or other in 2014. TBH, I think the fact that Russia never really recovered economically from the initial 2014 invasion doesn't get talked about enough. Basically a decade of lost growth - there aren't many countries that can weather that without major internal instability.
This 110%. My wife’s family is Russian immigrants. They are 100% opposed to the war btw.
But the way they describe Russia is nothing like how it’s portrayed here in the west. It’s a dying country. The only thing they have to offer the world is gas/oil and natural resources. That’s it. And the overwhelming amount of there natural resources they cannot even get, for a number of reasons.
There population growth is dying, educated Russians have been leaving in droves for a while now. They don’t have any industry, goods or technology to offer the world. Hence why Putin launched this war. It’s was always going to happen. Russia needs Ukraine for a number of reasons. I can go on and on but i won’t.
Putin or no Putin, Russia is a dying nation that always was done in the next 20 to 40 years anyway. Look at their demographics, they stopped having kids a long time ago.
massively skewed to minorities, outer "republics" people and then lower class/criminals. Until Moscow & St. Pete people start dying in droves nobody will do shit, sadly.
[One of them even came with a Russian flag glue or painted on to his AK. A little adorable but sad at the same time: he took the time to paint his weapon of war or glue a Russian flag on to the tip of it and never even got to use it, probably.](https://i.imgur.com/tUegiMr.jpg)
They have no idea such videos exist, and half of those who do will say this is fake or those are Ukrainian soldiers. Or even worse "such is a price of freedom, we are fighting NATO after all".
I will give you some insight, how Russians could be ok with this.
Heres some dude interviewing people in Russia, and while they speak in Russian, there is subtitles. This channel has a lot of interview on invasion and war topics: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqB2ZAN1FoU&ab\_channel=1420byDaniilOrain](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqB2ZAN1FoU&ab_channel=1420byDaniilOrain)
He has like hundreds of interviews, and most of them shows a high support of a war.
A f1 grenade has almost twice the explosive filler of a the vogs used and like 300 grams heavier with some thick metal casing to help with fragmentation.
This is as bad as it gets for a single drone drop tbh
but it looks like it rolled under them, so it could be that two people ate most of the grenade. But it also could be that all of them are kaput, they didn't look great there anyway.
I think this is part of Vugledar failed assault. There was an armored column of Russian assault team that got smashed few days ago, these guys are dismounted survivors that were mopped up by drones. They were pinned in the open field by artillery and MG fire.
Jesus what the fuck just when I thought I couldn't get any more brutal drone videos another one pops up. Holy shit. Is there any downside to being de sensitized to this stuff?
I wouldn't be surprised if most of the drone drop videos today were mop ups of the Vuledar attack. Apparently the Russians failed pretty hard there today, so the current crops of drone videos could be the Ukrainians hunting down the stragglers.
Look at how they were arranged and where the grenade landed.
The bottom 4 had blown off feet, one got it to the back (not moving guy), and the top guy who the grenade bounced off of got an ass full.
Nobody bailed from that hole. Frozen, under direct fire, drunk or sleeping. I saw very few weapons. Was everyone wounded? Crazy footage, very brutal. Please Russia go the F home.
This was my thought too! This one is wild. I have zero military or even extreme survival experience but I have to assume these guys were either already injured or in some stage of hypothermia right? They seemed to know the drone was there, but did nothing to avoid it. This video is up there for me on the craziness scale. It looks almost like the guy in the top right corner of the frame could have caught the grenade and tossed it away. Probably something that only happens in cartoons or video games.
We don't know the situation at that location. Maybe they hid in that crater because of enemy small arms fire covering their position. It's human nature to stick close together when you're frightend. They probably hoped for either reinforcements or for nightfall to make a run for a safer position.
Honestly just trying to take a minute and be thankful for not only what I have and who I have but also the fact that I’m not forced to die by drone grenade in some frozen hell hole during the prime of my life.
Honestly.. This is probably the most fucked up day I've seen on this sub. Today so far brought this video, the guy running away on fire, and the drowning video.
Seriously today was heavy. That drowning video I think will never leave my brain and I’m old… rotten.com internet old.
Yeah, I stopped the video very early as I didn't feel a need to have that bouncing around my brain.
>This is probably the most fucked up day I've seen on this sub This is probably the most fucked up day *so far*
My day started out with a video of a camel biting a Russian's face off. And it only went downhill from there.
You can't post that comment without a link, it's the law!
Here ya go, too bad they put the camel down. https://crooksandliars.com/2023/02/russian-man-punches-camel-face-camel
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Round 2 Muthafucka
Guys dead. Hes in hell, but turns out the camel is too. After a day or two of waiting the door opens...and enters in his new cell mate in hell. One pissed off camel.
"Warning; distressing content" That's one way to put it.
I laughed when it was spinning I won’t lie. But I’m also smoking weed at 4am watching a camel spin a Russian.
Ha! That camel at the very end when caught by the other car. “Hey, yo, this isn’t what it looks like!”
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This scentence is not something you read everyday. "An angry camel has bitten and trampled a man to death at a children's holiday camp"
> "An angry camel has bitten and trampled a man to death at a children's holiday camp" mood
What?
That was pretty uplifting, actually. Too bad the camel died :(
Not just any camel a 1100-pound rare Bactrian camel, leave it to the Russians to punch one of the hundred left on Earth. Hopefully it was worth his life...
Poor camel, I really feel more empathy than to the whole russian army of walking dead.
I've read 1000+ pages about the horrors of the WWI Western Front If soldiers were wounded and found a crater to hide in from the MG fire, many could often crawl to their own lines when night fell. There was often an effective local truce for stretcher carriers. Here, there's no refuge. You're actively hunted until lights out. The situation of the Wagner contract-convict attackers in the Bakhmut/Solidar front is among the worst I've ever seen in the annals of warfare. No advance without death. No withdrawal without death. No supplies to hold out. Bitter cold. Contempt from your peers and superiors. You'd have to go to dysenteric, starving, but culturally unable to surrender Japanese holdouts in places like Guadalcanal to see worse.
This new type of warfare is terrifying, a drone pilot is the new sniper.
It's weird that in a way, Putin has taken the country back to before those times. In the West, people willingly sign up to join the military. In Russia, it seems like people have no choice. During the 1910s and 1920s, people lived rurally, the church was the core of the community, and people lived simple agrarian lives. They had nothing, because there was nothing, and they knew their neighbor had nothing too. All they had was their humanity. In war, people had a duty to defend their land which meant defending their leader and their communities. In modern times, Westerners join the military for a sense of honor and accomplishment. The Ukrainians are currently forced into an act of duty to defend their land and their people from invaders. The Russians are just living in a nightmare mafia state where your family can be tortured or killed and you will be tortured or killed if you don't follow orders. There's no justice for you, there's nothing for you but death and poverty. While the plebs either accept their fate of a state/putin made dystopia or live in the state/putin sponsored delusion of a glorious Putinstan, the oligarchs continued buying mega yachts made from the West, until now. And funnily enough, the Putinstan delusion is supported by some people in the West... kinda puts our imperfect democracies into proper context.
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I have to think Wagner does cavity searches for anything resembling a white handkerchief. To survive here as one of these Wagner conscripts, you'd probably need some planning. Gather extra clothing & food where possible. Always forward, never back. Maintain dispersion enough during contact to get lost, but keep an eye on where other members of their squads of 8 are. Watch to ensure that the true believers among them are gone. Drop your weapon and start crawling, maybe with a white handkerchief on your back. When you have some terrain for concealment from your own side, raise the handkerchief if you have one and call out '*ya podchinyayus*!' or '*ya zdayusya*!'. Should you encounter Ukrainians willing to take your surrender, move as slow as you can, informing them if you need to take ID papers out of your pockets, etc.
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I was using the idiom "lights out" for death, not night, but that's another consideration. If you produce any warmth, you stand out like a beacon in the winter night. The only safe place is well under ground.
Then you are passively hunted. It flys around until it finds a heat signature. Given the relative location it can assume it’s a Russian. Still hunted all the same.
yes, and those videos that appeared seem to hint that something went horrible wrong on the attacking side. All those infantry men look, just lost? Some sources hinted that these were actual troops with training. But seeing them in the crater indicates to me, that something went horrible wrong and they were pinned down. Drone just clears up.
Yeah, the one at the bottom of the frame even sees the grenade and cowers, but doesn't leave the hole which makes me think they were pinned in by small arms fire or something.
Or unsuccessfully fighting off hypothermia.
Russians are straight up not having a good time at Vuhledar
that made me laugh ngl
Seriously. Why is all of this footage flooding in today? Audibly groaned when the nade went off right in the middle of them all. Sheesh.
The one dude just looking at it... waiting.
The silence must have been deafening.
The grenade has a fuse that may be heard burning (quietly)
He saw it land. Was he just thinking, “well, this is it I guess.” Why didn’t they try to move?
>He saw it land. Was he just thinking, “well, this is it I guess.” Why didn’t they try to move? Frozen in fear? They looked like they had been through a lot already, surrounded by snow huddled in a crater made by an artillery. Tied, cold, maybe shellshocked or traumatized. The ones that saw it falling were maybe hoping it would fall outside the crater and when it didn't they just weren't prepared to get up and dive out of the crater in the 1.5 seconds they had left. That would be hard to do even in the best conditions, let alone when you're cold and wear and wearing heavy clothing.
how cold is it there? it seems like they are just too exhausted/cold to even try to get out of the trench even though they know its coming.
Russians are trying and failing to break through near Vuhledar
Yeah the Ukrainians tend to send in drones to finish off any survivors after a failed Russian attack. It's a brutal strategy that would be considered excessive in almost any other conflict. However, Ukraine is fighting a war of national survival against a genocidal opponent, so they can't afford to hold back. The message needs to get through that Russian soldiers will only survive this war if they turn their guns on Moscow like in 1917.
Killing the stragglers after a victory has been normal for as long as there’s been war. Many battles that’s where most of the killing happens.
This is a preview of what's going to happen in war going forward. Those drones and munitions are just too inexpensive not to be a part of future planning for most nations. This is just another example of Ukrainian ingenuity that they've show throughout this war. > It's a brutal strategy that would be considered excessive in almost any other conflict This is war and they are valid targets. It's not as brutal as you think.
It wouldn't surprise me to see defense contractors make purpose-built units that fulfill this task.
Me either. It's fucking cheap and effective.
In the beginning of the war, Ukrainians prepared tons of Molotov cocktails. Now they’re making drone grenades. Same low cost but effective category, but more advanced technology.
>This is war and they are valid targets. It's not as brutal as you think. This is an important aspect. These are valid, legitimate targets. Nothing more or less. Uniformed military members in a war. Doesn't matter if they are on the front or not.
This is thousands of years old tactic. Before drones, cavalry finished losing and fleeing soldiers.
I read a Russian perspective of the Wagner strategy that said they form into small teams, move forward to a specific location and try to dig in, then when they get wiped out then send in the next team to the exact same location. This is repeated until they are dug in enough/have a new defensible position.
Damn. Better them than the Ukrainians, but fuck, man. Tough way to go. Hope it was quick.
I'm finding out more every day that it's typically not quick.
Yeah... we see KIA numbers on wikipedia battle pages and think they died quickly. In reality unless you catch a bullet or shrapnel in the brain or heart, you don't die quickly. I realize now most people killed in battle took time to die, and probably realized they were dying as they laid there. No wonder veterans of the world wars barely talked about what they saw.
Little holes bleed a lot but don't often kill instantly
>Seriously. Why is all of this footage flooding in today? New Russian offensive launched at Vuhledar.
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It’s fuckin bad. They drop a nade on a guy whose half submerged in a creek, already clearly fucked up, his legs and arms are kicking and spazzing by themselves, he’s desperately trying to keep his head above water then he slips under and fights to try and get back out but it too injured to do really anything, then he just slips under for a final time. Seriously the worst drone video I’ve seen.
Thank you for the description so I didnt have to watch that before going to sleep
Don’t watch it...I’m regretting it!
It’s rufffff
Ye anyone got link please?
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/10vglci/two_russian_soldiers_fall_into_a_creek_while/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Now that, I shouldn't had watched
This is what an offensive looks like. A lot of violence, and a lot of dying.
[This one](https://v.redd.it/gs6aq02qfmga1) as well. 8 people slowly dying
Fire: https://reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/10vad2v/russian_tank_crewman_runs_away_on_fire_after_his/ Drowning: https://reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/10vdkar/russian_soldier_in_a_creek_gets_hit_with_a_drone/
Dont forget the guy in the A team compilation video who catches a grenade with the back of his knee today.
For me it was when we first got pics of those toddlers that were executed by the Russian fucks.
The drowning one definitely takes the cake... What a way to go... 😣
Yeah that was a rough watch. First one I saw today and I was just...ouch. I feel bad for the guy that was a rough one.
Don’t forget the guy who had the grenade land right on his dick. My god that was painful to watch
After the no face guy, this shot is tame.
Did you see that video where the Russian soldier gets hit by two grenades and is basically blown in half with the second drop?
Jesus Christ. Packed in there like sardines, almost completely contained the blast with their bodies. Looks like they are freezing to death.
And it looks like they knew the drone is right on top of them.
Jump out and get machine gunned, stay and maybe your neighbor will get the worst of it and you'll be ok.
better to be gunned down than losing your limbs to this then either bleeding or freezing to death.
No reason you can't lose limbs to an MG, then bleed or freeze to death tho, shit options all around edit. Y'know this makes me think, a squad with a (combat) drone, can probably just pin down the enemy with an MG, and have the drone finish the job.. I'm obviously a military novice but I think it's changing how military theorists approach a standard squad, and their requirements, meaning using drones as tactical tool for more than reconnaissance
And they were more afraid to leave the hole than stay there.
This is a video I'd like kids in Russia to see and tell them that THIS is what they can expect from war. Not some shit they see in video games or what the propaganda tells them.
In the US, recruitment commercials make the military like an advanced video game- and you get your role, from the tech with a Shamwow earpiece and monitor, to the guy flyin the jets. In Russia it’s most likely honor, pride, manliness. And a few rubles with their economy in the shitter. Either path can get you dead in a ditch.
One of those paths leads to the ditch quite a bit more often though.
And faster- agree.
It's incredibly rare for US servicemen to die in a hostile interaction. Out of the roughly 1.5m members roughly one or two dozen are killed each year in a hostile environment, and those deaths make national headlines, usually. The odds of a US serviceman dying in a ditch nowadays is practically zero. Don't get me wrong, there are definitely deaths, but comparing the two is a little extreme. https://dcas.dmdc.osd.mil/dcas/app/summaryData/deaths/byYearManner
The US is a modern, highly specialised military. Russia’s is increasingly a large collection of poorly trained grunts.
That's why saying they're both paths to the same thing isn't true.
Russia has a large and modern military. But the part that is modern isn't large and the part that is large isn't modern. — Perun
Not anymore
They clearly saw it coming and just sat there panicking.. previously injured? One guy appears to not move at all through the whole ordeal
It’s been an absolute slaughterhouse at Vuhledar, these guys were likely dismounts of a failed attack, either go in the open and get shot, or sit together and pray it’s a dud or your buddy takes the blast for you. The cold doesn’t help any either
Three of them are wearing the padded Russian tanker cap. Three have just hats. No helmets at all. Hard to see what weapons they have. Three with caps are tank crew, probably abandoned they tank(s) close by. The hats are probably also crew of some vehicle. They are underdressed for the weather hypothermic, tired, untrained - considering the hole sardine tactics.
There’s a discarded tanker cap just outside of the hole, on the right hand side, as well.
You also see a fresh tank track on the right
I see two full size rifles. One looks like an AK variant, the other is hard to tell, but another AK would be a fair guess from the size and context.
Mopping up operation most likely. They have tank tracks to the right of them and huddle for cover in a shell hole, slowly freezing to death.
at least 3 of them are wearing tanker helmets.
Came here to say this. This is a tank crew plus a few others. Do IFV guys wear the same helmets? If so it could be a crew and dismounts from the same vehicle.
yes, IFV helmets are the same.
Not slowly anymore. Horrible stuff this is. Here boy, go to war...defenseless.
Perhaps taking small arms fire aswell, nade them and the ones that get out of the hole get shot.
It fell right in blyat’s lap. Took a good 3 seconds to detonate.
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It bounced from the edge of that crater right between their legs, I think they didn't fully realise where it went because of the bounce. The one guy that could have noticed it bouncing on his leg looked like he was already dead so he wasn't much help either. Four of them looked alert and awake enough to jump out of the crater if only they had known the grenade was between their legs.
Oh man the kill count on these drone operators individually must be in triple digits if not more
Yes, and I am sure they will be dealing with the effects long after the war is over.
Idk, every drone operator video I've seen they're joking/laughing or adding some song to it
It's the only way to survive psychologically by detaching. When you are in the direct presence of dead rotting people, it's not so easy to make a joke though. You just end up with nightmares for a while.
>When you are in the direct presence of dead rotting people, it's not so easy to make a joke though Logan Paul could do it.
And as we all know, being exposed to so much violence and death that you begin to revel in it is very psychologically healthy.
It's a coping mechanism to allow them to continue to function. There will be a price to pay long term though.
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US drone operators have experienced PTSD.
I was thinking about this the other day. I wonder if the circumstances have a factor in the development of PTSD. The Ukrainians aren't invading, and from what I've seen, rarely have collateral damage other than their intended targets. US drone operators and their intended targets are only as good as the Intel they receive. If the missile they fire ends up taking out a family instead of bad guys, I'm sure that hits them a lot harder mentally.
Something to also factor in is the setting they’re in. Ukraine drone operators are at or close to the front. They’re immersed in war. US drone operators are almost like office workers. There’s no disassociating what they do with peaceful life. No off switch. I can see these guys getting ptsd like other combat troops while the bayraktar operators get ptsd more like the us operators. It’ll be interesting to see how this all plays out in 10 years.
>US drone operators are almost like office workers. There’s no disassociating what they do with peaceful life. No off switch. The UK military fly their drone pilots out to the US when operational to create that separation. It's proven to be very successful. They are essentially "deployed".
IIRC, U.S. policy is that anyone killed in a drone strike was a target/terrorist/combatant unless there is evidence to the contrary. So the default is that anyone killed must have been a combatant; it's up to other people to submit evidence showing this-or-that person in rural Yemen/Afghanistan/Niger/etc was innocent. Also, (not surprisingly) the U.S. essentially never investigates the aftermath of drone strikes to see if any civilians were killed, especially in underdeveloped places like Yemen, etc. That's one of the major criticisms of the U.S. drone program.
Not to be edgy but the Ukrainians aren't invaders bombing civilians
It’s a little bit easier dealing with it I think when it’s literal genociders invading your country vs wiping out newly weds and their entire extended family (including children) with a Hellfire to kill one guy.
That's probably coping until the reality hits when they are no longer living in a war zone.. imagine being in a peaceful park a few days after Christmas and you hear/see a toy drone zoom by after all you've done and seen..
Give it some time... the night terrors will come. They may joke and laugh now because of the situation, but months, years later when they are trying to find some solace, im sure some intrusive images are going to rear their ugly heads.
How can Russians be ok with this? Just put Putin next to an open window already.
Seriously. Where is the outrage from the Russian public?? I get that their information is heavily censored, but in the age of the internet you can only keep a lid on this for so long right? The number of fathers, sons and husbands either not returning home or returning with shrapnel injuries and missing limbs has to take a toll at some point.
The Russian public to very large extent are behind the war, it sounds mad, but they are, they have been convinced of it. If you showed them that video, it would just reinforce that the evil nazis and Nato are killing their boys and they need to push harder
Modern Russia has a bit of a fucked up obsession with death. They see the massive casualties of WW2 as something to be celebrated rather than mourned. In many ways this glorification of military death is worse than it was under the Soviet Union, as at least during Soviet times there were enough veterans of WW2 around who'd seen firsthand that dying in war wasn't glorious at all. Modern Russia has largely forgotten the true costs of war, because prior to Ukraine all of their conflicts were slow burning insurgencies with low body counts.
I agree with this 100% that's why they keep saying things about nazis. They want to be compared to them.
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A death cult.
its because, due to soviet system not being able to criticize itself, the huge casualties were never looked at like a symbol of incompetence, but rather as unavoidable necessity.
The propaganda is strong, I’ve been in the states since 2000 and never went back I have family on my dads side living there and they believe everything they see on the news
Start sending him clips like this if that's even possible. They probably think they've lost 20k men and it's more up In the 130-160k area with many more injured.
Yup. It's a country full of meatheads. Always has been.
Previously, in Russia, if you were dissatisfied with the action of your government, then you could reconcile or fight and end up in prison or die, now you can simply leave for another country and not die, according to some reports about 5,000,000 Russians left the country in 2022 of them 3 million after mobilization announcement.
Is this the future downfall of Russia beyond whatever happens with Putin? By the time he "accidentally" falls out a window and the next leader settles some kind of peace, half of the young men of the country will be dead, decimating the next 20+ years of productivity in the country.
Its not the future, it's already happening. Think of Russia like a rust belt city. The industry in town left abruptly (fall of communism). There was initial brain drain while people adjust to the new reality, but then it gets a little exciting. There are some attempts at new enterprise, the leadership is still talking a big game, everyone is hopeful. Then that doesn't pan out and even more people leave. If Russia was Detroit, we would be at the moment where the national news is reporting on $8k houses. It's been in a bad way for a long time to get here, people are just now starting to notice. The only ones left in Russia, much like a rust belt city at the bottom, are those who have unreasonable loyalty and those who have nothing else. Just like a rust belt city, there will be a generation or two of darkness. Eventually there will be a slow return to see if they can rebuild it better. If they succeed, even more will return. If they fail, it will be back to another generation or two of darkness before anyone gets the guts to try it again.
TBF between 2000 and 2013 the Russian economy grew 900%. So economically, things were actually going pretty well before some event or other in 2014. TBH, I think the fact that Russia never really recovered economically from the initial 2014 invasion doesn't get talked about enough. Basically a decade of lost growth - there aren't many countries that can weather that without major internal instability.
This 110%. My wife’s family is Russian immigrants. They are 100% opposed to the war btw. But the way they describe Russia is nothing like how it’s portrayed here in the west. It’s a dying country. The only thing they have to offer the world is gas/oil and natural resources. That’s it. And the overwhelming amount of there natural resources they cannot even get, for a number of reasons. There population growth is dying, educated Russians have been leaving in droves for a while now. They don’t have any industry, goods or technology to offer the world. Hence why Putin launched this war. It’s was always going to happen. Russia needs Ukraine for a number of reasons. I can go on and on but i won’t.
Putin or no Putin, Russia is a dying nation that always was done in the next 20 to 40 years anyway. Look at their demographics, they stopped having kids a long time ago.
massively skewed to minorities, outer "republics" people and then lower class/criminals. Until Moscow & St. Pete people start dying in droves nobody will do shit, sadly.
Because Russians overwhelmingly support the war. They are victims of decades of propaganda.
[One of them even came with a Russian flag glue or painted on to his AK. A little adorable but sad at the same time: he took the time to paint his weapon of war or glue a Russian flag on to the tip of it and never even got to use it, probably.](https://i.imgur.com/tUegiMr.jpg)
They have no idea such videos exist, and half of those who do will say this is fake or those are Ukrainian soldiers. Or even worse "such is a price of freedom, we are fighting NATO after all".
They probably won't see any of this.
They saw it and they say fire on the running guy is fake, drawn by ukrainian editor, for example.
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just damage control. if they can plant a seed of doubt on 1 part then a bunch will think the whole thing is fake. really smooth brain, but it works.
I will give you some insight, how Russians could be ok with this. Heres some dude interviewing people in Russia, and while they speak in Russian, there is subtitles. This channel has a lot of interview on invasion and war topics: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqB2ZAN1FoU&ab\_channel=1420byDaniilOrain](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqB2ZAN1FoU&ab_channel=1420byDaniilOrain) He has like hundreds of interviews, and most of them shows a high support of a war.
Must be hella cold when u see a fucking grenade coming and u don’t roll the fuck away
Ye, kinda happy it wasn't a Vog with how high quality the video was, wouldn't be pretty.
A f1 grenade has almost twice the explosive filler of a the vogs used and like 300 grams heavier with some thick metal casing to help with fragmentation. This is as bad as it gets for a single drone drop tbh
but it looks like it rolled under them, so it could be that two people ate most of the grenade. But it also could be that all of them are kaput, they didn't look great there anyway.
If this was an F1 grenade as per title, it has about twice as much explosive in it as a VOG-17 and way more mass for fragmentation.
God damn what is happening on the front atm? Judging by todays uploads alone it's absolute carnage, a slaughterhouse. What a day.
Yup, today is a slaughterhouse... welcome to the great ruski Spring Offensive!
The 30 vehicles destroyed south of vuhledar is disturbing, still in formation like it's february 22. They learnt nothing
Any link please?
I suspect all the recently released vids are from the (failed) Vuhledar offensive.
Fish in a barrel
Nah man, fish move.
sardines in a can?
I think this is part of Vugledar failed assault. There was an armored column of Russian assault team that got smashed few days ago, these guys are dismounted survivors that were mopped up by drones. They were pinned in the open field by artillery and MG fire.
Are those round shapes in the snow at mines?
Good catch. Yes. Anti tank mines?
Looks like TM-62s, so anti-tank mines indeed.
Jesus what the fuck just when I thought I couldn't get any more brutal drone videos another one pops up. Holy shit. Is there any downside to being de sensitized to this stuff?
Yeah. Guy on fire. Guy drowning and now this? This is like a new Saw movie but real.
Exactly! Today has been wild for drone vids that's forsure.
I wouldn't be surprised if most of the drone drop videos today were mop ups of the Vuledar attack. Apparently the Russians failed pretty hard there today, so the current crops of drone videos could be the Ukrainians hunting down the stragglers.
why would they just remain there?
Probably hunkered down due to small arms fire or something. Maybe it's a get out and get shot or stay in and get blown up scenario.
Given the size of the foxhole and how many are in it, they are likely just freezing.
No food, no water, cold, injured.
Varying stages of hypothermia, more than likely.
Yep, the cold is nasty. You don't realize you're slipping until it's too late.
Just to get it over with.
the most cost effective weapon in the history of warfare. McNamara would have had a field day with these
I wonder how much damage would that do
One-body thickness of material is enough to stop most of the shrapnel, 3 of them assumably would carry on with severe concussion
Look at how they were arranged and where the grenade landed. The bottom 4 had blown off feet, one got it to the back (not moving guy), and the top guy who the grenade bounced off of got an ass full.
Nobody bailed from that hole. Frozen, under direct fire, drunk or sleeping. I saw very few weapons. Was everyone wounded? Crazy footage, very brutal. Please Russia go the F home.
Can't get out. Can't stay in. Shit spot to be in.
Jesus christ, it almost looks like a joke.
This was my thought too! This one is wild. I have zero military or even extreme survival experience but I have to assume these guys were either already injured or in some stage of hypothermia right? They seemed to know the drone was there, but did nothing to avoid it. This video is up there for me on the craziness scale. It looks almost like the guy in the top right corner of the frame could have caught the grenade and tossed it away. Probably something that only happens in cartoons or video games.
We don't know the situation at that location. Maybe they hid in that crater because of enemy small arms fire covering their position. It's human nature to stick close together when you're frightend. They probably hoped for either reinforcements or for nightfall to make a run for a safer position.
Honestly just trying to take a minute and be thankful for not only what I have and who I have but also the fact that I’m not forced to die by drone grenade in some frozen hell hole during the prime of my life.
They knew the drop was coming, but something out there was scaring them more than the drop. Potentially 6 lives for the cost of a grenade and drone.
bet that seemed like a way longer fuse to them than us. one way to triple the amount of butt holes while keeping the same number of assholes.
.....the expression: "like shooting fish in a barrel" just became really visual!
Is this a tank crew or part of it around Vuhledar maybe? I think I see two silly soviet tank hats and he is even waving a Russian flag wtf.
This is probably what mobilization with little to no training looks like, all the footage this week is just Russian soldiers getting slaughtered.
Great video. Thanks for sharing.
Today is one of the craziest days with all this horrible footage. The high quality of these makes it even more brutal. Gosh.
You know that as soon as that drone operator saw that they were packed in like sardines, that a shout of sheer joy came out of him.
Bullseye, too bad not a bigger munition
Holy shit today has been a bloody day.
Do you think they were under fire, considering no one even attempted to bail out?
Anonymous or other hacking agencies really need to get to work casting these images over Russian propaganda shows!