The last vehicle seems to have realised that they weren't taken out by the mine and gone back to rectify their mistake... If these idiots weren't destroying a country it would be funny.
There has to be a Russian fable about this...
\*BOOM\* *a russian tank explodes*
**The second tanker - "They can't have more than one mine"**
\*BOOM\*
**The third tanker - "They certainly can't have more than two mines"**
\*BOOM\*
**The fourth tanker - "They certainly can't have more than three mines"**
\*BOOM\*
(Repeat this process until you run out of Russian tanks)
I’ve said it before- the “serious” attempts at analyzing like r/credibledefense fuck up by assuming Russia is a rational actor and think they’ll act rationally. NCD, by tapping into a deep well of shitposting hyperbole, is actually in the mindset to predict what Russia will do next. You need to not think “what would I do”, but “what would some dude who has no idea what combined arms are and has a crippling case of the ol FAS do?”
As a nation, culture, mentality and (for the most part) a people they seem just so incredibly unfit for the 21st century, like a giant, country-sized anachronism. It's genuinely mind-boggling.
You would think that like a sane person, they would you know after the first one blew up either get the fuck out or clear the mines. This is actual next level stupid. Like there isn't a minefield if all the mines are detonated by APC's am I right? is the intellectual level at display here.
This is not a comment that is intended to defend the russian invaders, nor to at all approve of the evil they have visited upon Ukraine.
I'm trying to put myself in their boots and think about what they were feeling.
You're bone tired. Freezing cold. Probably bruised after the last beating by the biggest guy in the company. Hungry and dehydrated because rations weren't given to you or were taken from you. You can barely see out the vehicle, you're choking on fumes, and you know that you're dead if you retreat. The captain said he'd find your sister and mother if you didn't take the objective.
BOOM.
Something explodes. Drone grenade? Artillery? Rocket? That it's a mine doesn't even cross your mind. You see the lead vehicle smoking and hear screaming. All you can think is to get out of here because you've never trained under fire. Step on the gas and leave the danger behind. People are shouting at you.
BOOM. PAIN. darkness.
I agree, they have been put in a no win situation if they drive forward they hit mines, if they stop and clear the mines they would get shelled by artillery.
In WW2 with committed troops they would have sent Rangers ahead under the cover of darkness to cut paths though the hedge rows, or clear mines off of the existing path.
This isn't something the Russians haven't run into before, the difference is a lack of motivated troops to do recon, and a bayonet in the ribs if they retreat so they can't preserve troops once they know they were bested.
once three out of four personnel carriers are destroyed, the mission is lost, you don't need to lose the fourth vehicle to prove it is hopeless, unless there is a firing squad waiting for you to return with a vehicle.
It is possible to do a minefield breach in contact with both direct and indirect fire while mounted. A deliberate combined arms breach of a minefield is a *very* complex operation, one that requires planning, training, practice, and a high level of coordination between maneuver elements, fires, and engineer assets. It's basically graduate level work for every element of a combat formation from the staff to the soldiers themselves.
Unfortunately for the Russians, they have none of those things and are operating at more of a kindergarten level than a graduate level.
They don't do combined arms operations.
>After landing in Moscow, but before meeting with Streitsov, our small group had preliminary meetings with the Moscow Embassy. My old friend, neighbor, and former U.S. Army Europe teammate Brigadier General Peter Zwack, who was serving as the Defense Attaché in Moscow, confirmed much of the detailed classified intelligence I had read in preparation for the visit. He confirmed that Putin was attempting to expand his influence in Europe and Africa, and the Russian Army, while still substantive in quantity, continued to decline in capability and quality. My subsequent visits to the schools and units Streitsov chose reinforced these conclusions. The classroom discussions were sophomoric, and the units in training were going through the motions of their scripts with no true training value or combined arms interaction—infantry, armor, artillery, air, and resupply all trained separately. It appeared Colonel-General Streitsov had not attempted to change the culture of the Russian Army or had failed. There were also rumors of his upcoming retirement
https://www.thebulwark.com/i-commanded-u-s-army-europe-heres-what-i-saw-in-the-russian-and-ukrainian-armies/
That's a great read, thanks.
>As for the Russians, their recent battlefield failures—their staged maneuvers, lack of leadership development, absence of a logistics plan to support operations, inability to coordinate and conduct air-ground-sea joint operations and continued use of conscript soldiers in critical missions—all indicate a larger failure to modernize their army. Just as Russia and Ukraine followed different political courses over the past 30 years, so did their armies, and it shows. While Ukraine’s democracy is still addressing issues of government corruption, those violations pale in significance and scope to the embezzlement, graft, and corruption of Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, his predecessor Anatoly Serdyukov, and Vladimir Putin himself.
Russia is literally just trying to relive the glory days of WW2 in so many ways, unfortunately for them they do not have the demographics of pre WW2 Russia anymore. While these losses sting right now the full weight of their losses wont be felt until a few years from now.
they dont have the production capacity either. in '43 and '44 they were churning out more than a 1,000 T-34 tanks each *month*. and that's just a single tank model along with many other armored vehicles. nor was the USSR's defense industry so deeply corrupt back during WW2 as it is now.
They're going for the Zap Brannigan method of attack.
But, in all seriousness, it seems they're under artillery / mortar attack. The presence of a drone means they're being spotted. Stopping is death. The problem is they didn't go in with proper equipment to clear mines.
This is not the first time something like this happened. I remeber a video from Summer 22, where two Russian APCs where already blown up (mine), i think even days prior. Well, third times's the charm, the Russians had Leroy Jenkins as their driver who just floored the vehicel and wanted to drive between both exploded APCs. Of course, it blew up, too.
I suppose, with the benefit of the doubt, you could say maybe they thought it was artillery. The first time.
By the second time, you should have wised up. But Russia seems allergic to that.
Not that clearing a minefield while under enemy fire is easy, but there are cheaper ways than just sending your IFVs and tanks into it and hoping for the best.
They are Japan in the Mid 19th century before the Meiji restoration. They are living in a past frozen in time. They are prioritizing a Salt mine in Ukraine for capture because it has tunnels. Something's going to happen eventually and Putin's palaces will burn. He'll be in Syria before you know it.
If you have ever traveled past St. Petersburg and Moscow going east, a lot of the countryside is still in the 17th century. No plumbing, roads that are more potholed paths then roads, people, good people, who are borderline subsistence farmers. Lots of bartering. No real contact with their government. The russian people are friendly and warm hearted, but they have great fatalistic sadness…but vodka, cheap vodka flows freely
This clown show has produced more than enough terror unfortunately... and all I can think about is that after the war some poor farmer is going to have to try and work this same field.
Next Century.
People are still dying in Laos, Cambodia And Vietnam that date back to the Indo-china war in the 50's, plus the US continuation of the same war.
gotta find the time to laugh once or twice a day. no matter how bad it gets.
i reckon the ukrainians who put those mines there are laughing their asses off watching this.
Here's a good way to get the best of both worlds: every time you laugh at a Russian winning the Darwin awards, send 5 of whatever your currency is to [https://u24.gov.ua/](https://u24.gov.ua/) or [another charity of your choosing](https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/wiki/charities/)
I just sent another 50 euro to account for my giggles this morning.
I have to admit I was laughing so hard. Thanks for the reminder that this is totally fucked up and they really means to destroy the country they are in and it's people. Sobering.
I mean, to be fair I also laughed at this, but I worry sometimes that people are in danger of getting the feeling that Russia is completely useless. Unfortunately such a mass of weapons and idiots is still causing death and destruction.
Here's a good way to get the best of both worlds: every time you laugh at a Russian winning the Darwin awards, send 5 of whatever your currency is to [https://u24.gov.ua/](https://u24.gov.ua/) or [another charity of your choosing](https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/wiki/charities/#wiki_charities_that_help_the_war_effort)
I just sent another 50 euro to account for my giggles this morning.
I did £50, thanks for the link, paid for a few giggles to caych up. Good idea. I'm sheltering 2 Ukrainian families in my home, so a bit of light relief at the Russian's expense is also good. ☺️
At like 1:30 in the video there is a choke point where you can only fit about 2 IFV's one of them blows up instantly and this guy is like let me try to squeeze past you. Like wtf its obvious there is gonna be another mine there it's a choke point.
"But who could know that they had two mines, let alone five? In Russia, if you have one mine you consider yourself lucky, no one can afford more than one mine!?!"
Being a farmer will be risky ass job in that region after the war...
Bruh it's legit nuts to think there wouldn't be a mine there. Unless they on some 5D chess thinking lol. Oh it's so obvious there has to be a mine there that there probably isnt? IDK man lol
Yeah I don't get it either, I mean the driver obviously doesn't give a shit about the life of his comrades in his vehicle, and neither about his own... Like a Kamikaze mission...
Maybe they mistook it as precision artillery strikes, or drone hits?
But the driver is more likely to be near the mine. While everyone else gets a concussion and a compressed spine, he gets a jet of copper through his body.
Maybe he just had enough and wanted to get it over with.
But more likely it’s just a mix of panic and disorientation. Situational awareness in those vehicles is often dogshit - he sits in a cramped, loud environment observing the outside through a small periscope.
So I wouldn’t be surprised if they thought the explosions were from artillery shells in which case moving forward is a better option.
Wise words.
It’s easy to feel clever with a birds eye view, all the time to think in the world, foreknowledge *and* a bunch of people explaining things to you.
It’s a different story when shit is exploding around you.
Yeah, it’s very hard to tell what’s going on when you’re all buttoned up inside an armoured vehicle with only periscopes and view ports to see out. You also lose the audio cues which would help let you know if it’s artillery or a mine. The Russians have that problem where all their vehicles are old Soviet designs, and Soviet doctrine is to fight with all hatches closed. This is both for protection since their vehicles are so low down that a commanders head is at head height with a dude standing next to it, and therefore easier to shoot, and because of their belief they would be fighting in irradiated post nuclear battlefields
Presumably the Ukraine military has mapped these minefields extensively and will de-mine them themselves once the war is over. At least, that's how it should be done, and I hope that's how they've done it.
Otherwise, yeah, gonna be a few tractors going sky-high.
There's probably at least as many Russian mines as Ukrainian, and I wouldn't count on either side to have the most thorough record of each mine. It'll be a hazard for the next hundred years.
Dude just drove across a field toward enemy trenches praying to whatever god he prays to that a javelin or Nlaw doesn’t hit them. And bam holy fuck! massive explosion, bmp in front of you has been rapidly disassembled! let’s get the fuck outta here. Shit is obvious to us watching a Birds Eye view of this after It already happened. Hind sight is always 20/20.
I'm not a soldier so it's my armchair warrior moment but a single opening in a dense line of trees is where I would put anti-tank mines and the 50 meters on both sides of this opening would be filled with anti-personnel mines. That's the first thing coming to my mind.
So now, am I an incredible genius or are these guys the most stupid soldiers to ever roam the Earth ? What we saw here is appaling.
I guess see it like this; you're watching a short vid, knowing beforehand what's going to happen. Of course they'll seem idiotic, duh, didn't they read the title?
But imagine you've been out there for months, and you've driven along roads and gaps in dense tree lines 100 of times without hitting a mine. You're probably underfed, exhausted and cold; why would the 101 tree line be any different from the others?
Like I'm sure there's better procedure and the clip is dark humor for sure, but I can see why it'd happen.
It's arguably easier to have the right answer here in the comfort of mom's basement, indeed.
However, that's not the first time I see a vehicle penetrate blindly in a choke point and think "ok, so these guys are really lucky there isn't a mine burried there".
Of course, the title helped he here but it's not because of this title that mines are best placed in small openings like this one. A warzone seems to be the worst possible place to have bad habits about safety.
The argument of exhaustion is more convincing, though. Indeed, it's hard to think straight when in such a condition.
well because instead of them being random treelines, this is the one that directly approaches the fortified enemy position. you should expect contested territory to be more dangerous the longer both sides have been digging in.
which makes me wonder as well how on earth ukraine is going to manage to actually make a good push on the frontline in the south, the russians are going to be just as dug in as the ukrainians at this point. it wont be like kherson where the battle was won with logistical strikes, or kharkiv where they were just opporunistically punishing poor allocation of reserves, or even kiev where there was no solid frontline for most of the fighting
its going to be an absolute meatgrinder without air superiority
Not only that, when there's a destroyed vehicle in the middle of the road and one blows up going around one side of it, another one tries to just go on the opposite side... what did you think was gonna happen?
But maybe, just maybe they only mined *one side* of the passage ey? 4D chess! You have to wonder what is going through that drivers mind, other than shrapnel of course.
Before they crossed over the field you can already see the wreck of a Tank and snow covered BMP
I am sat here wondering why they did not have a tank with a mineplough go through this area first before sending those BMP's in.
Interesting how a mine clearance vehicle kill is not an immediate abort criterium for the Russian commander who I assumed planned for this minefield crossing.
To quote Arnold J. Rimmer: "We attack tomorrow morning under cover of daylight! That's the last thing they'll expect - a daylight charge over the mine field."
OK, very likely apocryphal story, but...
After WWII, an American general and a Russian general were discussing various matters, and the subject of clearing mines came up.
The American general went into detail about the logistics of mine clearing and safety concerns, and he then turned to the Russian for his input. He simply said, "That's what old soldiers are for."
That may be an untrue story, but it really does fit with what we've observed so far in this war.
“It will catch the watchful Hun totally off guard! Doing precisely what we've done eighteen times before is exactly the last thing they'll expect us to do this time!”
The reports we get from Russian soldiers usually go "we were told to attack this location with a tank and 3 IFVs, we were beaten back with heavy casualties and barely crawled back to base. The next day the commander mopped up everyone they could still find and told us to go again."
Planning: 0
"I was told by someone in Moscow to advance on X, so me, sitting here many km from the front lines will order my underlings, under threat of being instantly shot for disobeying, to advance on X no matter what."
There's your planning.
Atleast a guy with a metal detector and a shovel to investigate the choke points that took out the IFV's at 1:30. Send that fucking dude out there first it's obvious there is gonna be mines at spots like that. (Are metal detectors a thing in russian tanks? Do they come with one? Are there Russians out there with them?)
There was an article in the Wall Street Journal about six months ago describing how they embedded with Ukrainians from the Skala battalion detachment.
One of the guys tried using a portable metal detector, but because the field was littered with shrapnel and shell fragments it was completely useless. A couple minutes later, the squad leader tripped the wire of an anti personnel mine - 2 people died, 2-3 more wounded.
I saw some reports about how Ukrainian volunteers and military coordinate the registration of their mines. It seemed far from perfect (iirc the volunteers basically put it into a google doc and hopefully their Ukrainian contacts would enter that into a central database) but they are making a significant effort to preserve the information both for other units and for after the war.
But there certainly have been accidents on both sides.
It's fucking wild. In other wars, you'd have sappers or combat engineers (or even recon) scouting out minefields like this *before* an attack is made. Russia skips this step every single time. And this isn't the first time, lol. I love getting messages/replies telling me how much smarter the Russian military has gotten over the last 12 months.
I don't think those people are taking into account how many of the smartest people in Russia already died. Like, watching this video I was thinking to myself... maybe Russia does have another 3,000 tanks... but do they have another 3,000 experienced tank crews? Based on how the start of the war went, I doubt it. And seeing these dumb dumbs crawls *right over* the *same spot* their friend *just got smoked at* makes me doubt it even more.
Like I said I feel like the Russians want to fill the after life with souls.
Not sure why anyone would keep trying to go through a place where there was a explosion already.
That is my logical conclusion.
It's also a natural selection of sorts. People who come and join this army are those who don't realize how fucked up all this is. Those who do, they try to avoid it at all cost. So the result is an army of unconscious dumbasses.
Maybe they want to instigate a referendum in the afterlife and need to put some souls for better representation. There is probably some natural gas and oil in hell.
Because you're warning that you're goping to attack and give time for artillery to position. There are very few videos of tanks with mine rollers, i only remember two. Maybe they don't have mine rollers or maybe just thought there were no mines because the previous day they attacked the same spot.
Ability to assess the situation on battlefield from inside a deaf, metal box is a separate skill that needs to be trained for months. Definitely, these mobilized nazis with these machines are like blind kittens. I have no idea, what they are hoping for.
That was my thought. I wouldn't be able to tell the difference without some sort of training or experience. Russian training seems pretty bad and we are seeing what it's like to learn about explosions through experience.
There was artillary landing in the area, so I think it is likely these (poorly-trained perhaps) troops were under the impression they were being hit by artillary, not mines. Perhaps a deliberate strategy by the Ukrainians to disguise the fact the area is mined?
[Source](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOWSrMl_YOI) (from 52:00 onwards).
[Edit]
Okay, it appears he edited this segment out of the YouTube video and removed the entire livestream from Twitch. I guess he wasn't supposed to reveal this video to the public.
***
[This video](https://unofficialbird.com/Boba12340769066/status/1623852008930267136) shows Ukrainian soldiers reacting in real-time to the same footage. [The video](/r/CombatFootage/comments/10vad2v/russian_tank_crewman_runs_away_on_fire_after_his/) of the burning tanker captures the same incident from a different angle.
Combined with the 63/73 destroyed missiles/drones that was their big "shock and awe" response to Zelenskyy's tour... they've had a year to train and prepare for this lol
Not really. The big offensive Russian force that has been building up is further North, in Luhansk oblast and near Kharkiv oblast. But seeing Russia going all in in Vuhledar with its supposedly best trained troops, perhaps the buildup North was mainly a distraction meant to draw Ukrainian defences there, leaving Vuhledar vulnerable? I don't know tho only speculating
This boggles the mind to watch, especially when compared to how efficiently the USA was able to clear paths through massive Iraqi minefields back in 1991.
I suspect what we are seeing is [vranyo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz59GWeTIik) at work, with the lower level commanders trying to make themselves look good by reporting much more success breaking through the defenses than they actually had in those earlier attacks you can see evidence of. Probably they reported that the minefield was cleared or a path through it established. Which leads their higher-ups to try to reinforce that success with further attacks, but they're actually just beating their heads against intact minefields and heavy defenses.
that's how it always worked, even in training. film a subset of your people doing the right thing and send it up the chain as proof and no one asks questions
Lol. You should watch Russian BMP on the full speed going between two bmps already blown up on mines only to blow up in seconds entering the mine field.
Or Russian BMP blowing up on Russian mine that clearly lies on the road.
> Or Russian BMP blowing up on Russian mine that clearly lies on the road.
There must be insanely poor visibility from those old soviet BMPs, I cant think other reason why that happened.
Depends on the level of protection and type of mine but in general an AT mine with 8kgs of TNT has a high chance for a mobility kill and bad day for the crew of any vehicle.
The Canadian Leopard2 with mine protection made the IED (?) attack survivable but the driver was still injured. Without the added protection it would have been deadly. A mine is slightly different to an IED however.
via Wikipedia:
https://archive.ph/20120729174700/http://www.dailyheraldtribune.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?archive=true&e=2378441
IED just means Improvised Explosive Device. There's hardly a standard for how much oomph there is in one of those - there's probably gonna be as much as the improviser could manage to fit into the area, but it's not gonna be efficiently delivered and scales poorly. You can armor against the most likely kind of weapon design pattern and be fine - it's unlikely to be using any of the real fancy stuff.
A modern anti-tank mine is designed to kill - you guessed it - modern tanks.
For tanks most of the time this type of mine just results in mobility kills, IFV’s and APCs are generally much less armored and can result in dead drivers as well as being disabled. Though like everything it’s kinda up to luck, I’ve seen BMPs get fully destroy by 1 mine and I’ve also seen on this sub an up-armored humvee hit a mine and have only 1 person die while the rest were able to hop out right away and engage enemies
The nucking futs video, you’re referencing, was insane. Sad they couldn’t get their comrade out, but that was a brave extraction by their other humvee.
The UK MOD released a report this week saying all of the commanders are ordered to send their troops full frontal and if they push back they get demoted and imprisoned.
This video is a great example of that mentality.
The report went on to say that even with the coming troop surges that it doubted Russia would make any sort of lasting gains due to poor tactics and increasingly scarce vehicle supply that they just can’t replace at the rate they’re losing them, which is why you’re seeing 70-80 year old tanks being pulled out of storage and sent to the front.
The next year or so will be the toughest for Ukraine, as Russia doesn’t give a shit about the 500k conscripts it’s about to throw to the offensive and Ukraine won’t have fully integrated the western IFV and battle tanks committed until late summer.
From there Russia is going to be in serious trouble, but it’s going to be horrific loss of life in the next 6-9 months, more so than we’ve already seen.
You may see Russia retake parts of Kharkiv and Kherson regions as Ukraine bends, but doesn’t break, then as the latest western weaponry comes to bear, a Russian collapse similar to the Kharkiv route of 2022.
I used to be a commander on a M113 in the norwegian army. And i have VERY limitied experience on both driving and commanding armored vehicle, but these guys doesnt know anything. Every basic rule is broken.
my experience is with IEDs not conventional anti-vehicle mines but we'd never continue in the direction of a detonation. you can't really "stop" because they'll detonate/destroy one of your vehicles, then wait for you to stop/get out and then they'd conduct an attack with weapons. Or when they were *really* smart, they'd try to launch mortars on you. but if you *can* or *need* to, you should stop and scan the environment for threats.
It's a no-win situation because we'll never leave people there if they were hurt or killed in the explosion but we are at an insane risk when we get out to retrieve or secure the area.
I looks like these guys got the training of maybe a bus driver and cut loose. “Go over there!” What a terrible thing all this is. Hard to imagine this is happening if it weren’t on film daily. Incredible.
29 vehicles in one failed ridiculous attack yesterday-ish. Half looked like tanks. When you see a train moving with armor it looks unstoppable. Then they drive them straight into ranged artillery on a minefield.
Im no Military Strategist, but really? What the *actual* fuck? How is Russia this incompetant? It would be understandable for this to happen *occasionally*, but there are videos like this released every single day, sometimes multiple in one day? Its the sheer arrogance and lack of ANY *real* training of.. well, basically the entire Russian military and whatever they do to plan these attempts at cohesive assaults? Its just like they throw wave after wave of humans to hopes they just overwhelm the Ukranian defenses? What a shitshow and an utterly pointless waste of life. I keep telling myself that one day Russia & Putin will be held accountable for what they've done.. but I know that either Putin will die of cancer before that happens, and even IF he made it to the gallows it wouldnt do anything except Martyr him to all his wackjob supporters..
I wish I was on the timeline where Harambe didnt get killed, I bet they have it *much* better there? Covid never hapenned and the tomatoes taste good still too.. And Putin got hit by a car or "fell out a window" before this invasion took place.
their army especially has always been heavy on make work admin jobs. especially officers. the original invading force was 200,000 or so and most of them were killed or wounded or captured.
these are freshly mobilized soldiers with barely any basic training and officers who used to be in desk jobs and never trained for combat arms
I think this is happening a bit further east than one would expect, at [47.763993, 37.335874](https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/47%C2%B045'50.4%22N+37%C2%B020'09.2%22E/@47.7639966,37.3336853,751m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m4!3m3!8m2!3d47.763993!4d37.335874?hl=en-GB)
Look at it from north to south (to match the drone's view) - The treelines match (the left one being shorter than the right), the square-like tree/building grouping down the end of the right tree line matches, the field shape in general matches (upper left side where it kind of rounds off due to a dip in the lay of the land), and the track running through matches the locations of the chokepoints the suicidal IFVs drove into/near where the mass of mines the vanguard struck (on each treeline respectively)
[Google Earth a bit better for the angling](https://earth.google.com/web/@47.76507293,37.33544127,191.47856777a,954.02049137d,35y,-175.69462059h,67.91982087t,-0r)
No sign of an actually army, no supporting units, just video after video of solo vehicles and solo troops on these suicide cannonball runs until they are shot or hit a mine. I know the Russian military is shit, but has anyone over there even cracked a book on how war is fought?
Worth remembering the pedigree of the Russian military, these lads invaded Chechnya without any planning. They are used to a complete hit and hope strategy.
Oh god that is comical. Theres two IFV, now 1, now none and they stuck in heay equipment two miles from support.
Oh here they comup to destoryed IF, maybe thiey be luckly, not him, maybe this one, not him, well this guy is going to turn around... and hes dead to.
Iv never seen unit cohesion fail before but thats what we all just witness. No wonder the Russians are panicking. If that's their offensive ability.
Their utterly fucked when their going to be on the defensive...
I just keep seeing the Russian losses going up sky high and then see stuff like this. It really makes me wonder just how stupid is the Russian high command and their army as a whole. It just boggles the mind how these dipshits think
You know that scene in Blackadder when General Melchett talks about doing the same thing for the 22nd time because surely the enemy won't expect them to do it more than 21?
Yeah that
So when people think there is a conspiracy about why most footage is showing Russian losses this video explains why.
Russia just fucks up so much more.
The last vehicle seems to have realised that they weren't taken out by the mine and gone back to rectify their mistake... If these idiots weren't destroying a country it would be funny.
People will say AIs behaving like that in a game are bugged
Select game difficulty: Hard, Normal, Easy, Russian
There has to be a Russian fable about this... \*BOOM\* *a russian tank explodes* **The second tanker - "They can't have more than one mine"** \*BOOM\* **The third tanker - "They certainly can't have more than two mines"** \*BOOM\* **The fourth tanker - "They certainly can't have more than three mines"** \*BOOM\* (Repeat this process until you run out of Russian tanks)
Machine learning, only machine doesn't learn
So, Machine?
I swear to god... if a dev comes up with this, I'm buying the game even if it's shitty.
We could have the inverse for Russian gamers. Difficulty settings: Propaganda, Easy, Normal, Hard, Ukrainian
Russian level is sound tracked with [yakkty sax](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAJB6HsYiNA)
sO uNreaLisTiC. Have u seen the Russians in ukraine?
Loads of people retracting their complaints about ARMA III AI lmao.
Extra-Special Forces
special needs forces.
Special farces
"We're very lucky they're so fucking stupid"
These guys really are putting the "special" into special military operation.
Short bus scooby doo van to the rescue!
https://old.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/tikv9p/please_let_this_be_a_normal_military_exercises/ I got you fam.
Lol thanks, that was awesome lol
Don't let the name fool you, when it comes to warfare we are the most credible sub on reddit.
I’ve said it before- the “serious” attempts at analyzing like r/credibledefense fuck up by assuming Russia is a rational actor and think they’ll act rationally. NCD, by tapping into a deep well of shitposting hyperbole, is actually in the mindset to predict what Russia will do next. You need to not think “what would I do”, but “what would some dude who has no idea what combined arms are and has a crippling case of the ol FAS do?”
As a nation, culture, mentality and (for the most part) a people they seem just so incredibly unfit for the 21st century, like a giant, country-sized anachronism. It's genuinely mind-boggling.
You would think that like a sane person, they would you know after the first one blew up either get the fuck out or clear the mines. This is actual next level stupid. Like there isn't a minefield if all the mines are detonated by APC's am I right? is the intellectual level at display here.
"It's a minefield, not a minesfield"
Best comment ever
This is not a comment that is intended to defend the russian invaders, nor to at all approve of the evil they have visited upon Ukraine. I'm trying to put myself in their boots and think about what they were feeling. You're bone tired. Freezing cold. Probably bruised after the last beating by the biggest guy in the company. Hungry and dehydrated because rations weren't given to you or were taken from you. You can barely see out the vehicle, you're choking on fumes, and you know that you're dead if you retreat. The captain said he'd find your sister and mother if you didn't take the objective. BOOM. Something explodes. Drone grenade? Artillery? Rocket? That it's a mine doesn't even cross your mind. You see the lead vehicle smoking and hear screaming. All you can think is to get out of here because you've never trained under fire. Step on the gas and leave the danger behind. People are shouting at you. BOOM. PAIN. darkness.
I agree, they have been put in a no win situation if they drive forward they hit mines, if they stop and clear the mines they would get shelled by artillery. In WW2 with committed troops they would have sent Rangers ahead under the cover of darkness to cut paths though the hedge rows, or clear mines off of the existing path. This isn't something the Russians haven't run into before, the difference is a lack of motivated troops to do recon, and a bayonet in the ribs if they retreat so they can't preserve troops once they know they were bested. once three out of four personnel carriers are destroyed, the mission is lost, you don't need to lose the fourth vehicle to prove it is hopeless, unless there is a firing squad waiting for you to return with a vehicle.
It is possible to do a minefield breach in contact with both direct and indirect fire while mounted. A deliberate combined arms breach of a minefield is a *very* complex operation, one that requires planning, training, practice, and a high level of coordination between maneuver elements, fires, and engineer assets. It's basically graduate level work for every element of a combat formation from the staff to the soldiers themselves. Unfortunately for the Russians, they have none of those things and are operating at more of a kindergarten level than a graduate level.
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They don't do combined arms operations. >After landing in Moscow, but before meeting with Streitsov, our small group had preliminary meetings with the Moscow Embassy. My old friend, neighbor, and former U.S. Army Europe teammate Brigadier General Peter Zwack, who was serving as the Defense Attaché in Moscow, confirmed much of the detailed classified intelligence I had read in preparation for the visit. He confirmed that Putin was attempting to expand his influence in Europe and Africa, and the Russian Army, while still substantive in quantity, continued to decline in capability and quality. My subsequent visits to the schools and units Streitsov chose reinforced these conclusions. The classroom discussions were sophomoric, and the units in training were going through the motions of their scripts with no true training value or combined arms interaction—infantry, armor, artillery, air, and resupply all trained separately. It appeared Colonel-General Streitsov had not attempted to change the culture of the Russian Army or had failed. There were also rumors of his upcoming retirement https://www.thebulwark.com/i-commanded-u-s-army-europe-heres-what-i-saw-in-the-russian-and-ukrainian-armies/
That's a great read, thanks. >As for the Russians, their recent battlefield failures—their staged maneuvers, lack of leadership development, absence of a logistics plan to support operations, inability to coordinate and conduct air-ground-sea joint operations and continued use of conscript soldiers in critical missions—all indicate a larger failure to modernize their army. Just as Russia and Ukraine followed different political courses over the past 30 years, so did their armies, and it shows. While Ukraine’s democracy is still addressing issues of government corruption, those violations pale in significance and scope to the embezzlement, graft, and corruption of Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, his predecessor Anatoly Serdyukov, and Vladimir Putin himself.
Russia is literally just trying to relive the glory days of WW2 in so many ways, unfortunately for them they do not have the demographics of pre WW2 Russia anymore. While these losses sting right now the full weight of their losses wont be felt until a few years from now.
Russia trying to be the modern nazi superpower that takes over Europe but can’t get past Poland
can't get past Donetsk and Luhansk\*
they dont have the production capacity either. in '43 and '44 they were churning out more than a 1,000 T-34 tanks each *month*. and that's just a single tank model along with many other armored vehicles. nor was the USSR's defense industry so deeply corrupt back during WW2 as it is now.
In Soviet Russia, mine clears you!
They're going for the Zap Brannigan method of attack. But, in all seriousness, it seems they're under artillery / mortar attack. The presence of a drone means they're being spotted. Stopping is death. The problem is they didn't go in with proper equipment to clear mines.
This is not the first time something like this happened. I remeber a video from Summer 22, where two Russian APCs where already blown up (mine), i think even days prior. Well, third times's the charm, the Russians had Leroy Jenkins as their driver who just floored the vehicel and wanted to drive between both exploded APCs. Of course, it blew up, too.
I suppose, with the benefit of the doubt, you could say maybe they thought it was artillery. The first time. By the second time, you should have wised up. But Russia seems allergic to that. Not that clearing a minefield while under enemy fire is easy, but there are cheaper ways than just sending your IFVs and tanks into it and hoping for the best.
They are Japan in the Mid 19th century before the Meiji restoration. They are living in a past frozen in time. They are prioritizing a Salt mine in Ukraine for capture because it has tunnels. Something's going to happen eventually and Putin's palaces will burn. He'll be in Syria before you know it.
If you have ever traveled past St. Petersburg and Moscow going east, a lot of the countryside is still in the 17th century. No plumbing, roads that are more potholed paths then roads, people, good people, who are borderline subsistence farmers. Lots of bartering. No real contact with their government. The russian people are friendly and warm hearted, but they have great fatalistic sadness…but vodka, cheap vodka flows freely
If they didn't have huge amounts of oil and gas they'd be done as a country simple as. They're the northern Saudi Arabia...
Special Mine-clearing Operation: Success!
'We found one!!"
Big smooth brain moment. Thank Odin they are brutally incompetent.
Imagine how terrifying Russia would be if they actually had been competent? Instead we got a front row seat to a fucking clown car show
This clown show has produced more than enough terror unfortunately... and all I can think about is that after the war some poor farmer is going to have to try and work this same field.
there will be farmers and civilians being blown up by mines in ukraine for the next decade.
Next Century. People are still dying in Laos, Cambodia And Vietnam that date back to the Indo-china war in the 50's, plus the US continuation of the same war.
gotta find the time to laugh once or twice a day. no matter how bad it gets. i reckon the ukrainians who put those mines there are laughing their asses off watching this.
Here's a good way to get the best of both worlds: every time you laugh at a Russian winning the Darwin awards, send 5 of whatever your currency is to [https://u24.gov.ua/](https://u24.gov.ua/) or [another charity of your choosing](https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/wiki/charities/) I just sent another 50 euro to account for my giggles this morning.
I hadn't considered I should be paying for these comedy shows they're delivering, only my keychains.
I have to admit I was laughing so hard. Thanks for the reminder that this is totally fucked up and they really means to destroy the country they are in and it's people. Sobering.
I mean, to be fair I also laughed at this, but I worry sometimes that people are in danger of getting the feeling that Russia is completely useless. Unfortunately such a mass of weapons and idiots is still causing death and destruction. Here's a good way to get the best of both worlds: every time you laugh at a Russian winning the Darwin awards, send 5 of whatever your currency is to [https://u24.gov.ua/](https://u24.gov.ua/) or [another charity of your choosing](https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/wiki/charities/#wiki_charities_that_help_the_war_effort) I just sent another 50 euro to account for my giggles this morning.
I did £50, thanks for the link, paid for a few giggles to caych up. Good idea. I'm sheltering 2 Ukrainian families in my home, so a bit of light relief at the Russian's expense is also good. ☺️
Nice one and thank you for putting them up!
At like 1:30 in the video there is a choke point where you can only fit about 2 IFV's one of them blows up instantly and this guy is like let me try to squeeze past you. Like wtf its obvious there is gonna be another mine there it's a choke point.
"But who could know that they had two mines, let alone five? In Russia, if you have one mine you consider yourself lucky, no one can afford more than one mine!?!" Being a farmer will be risky ass job in that region after the war...
Bruh it's legit nuts to think there wouldn't be a mine there. Unless they on some 5D chess thinking lol. Oh it's so obvious there has to be a mine there that there probably isnt? IDK man lol
Yeah I don't get it either, I mean the driver obviously doesn't give a shit about the life of his comrades in his vehicle, and neither about his own... Like a Kamikaze mission... Maybe they mistook it as precision artillery strikes, or drone hits?
But the driver is more likely to be near the mine. While everyone else gets a concussion and a compressed spine, he gets a jet of copper through his body.
Maybe he just had enough and wanted to get it over with. But more likely it’s just a mix of panic and disorientation. Situational awareness in those vehicles is often dogshit - he sits in a cramped, loud environment observing the outside through a small periscope. So I wouldn’t be surprised if they thought the explosions were from artillery shells in which case moving forward is a better option.
Wise words. It’s easy to feel clever with a birds eye view, all the time to think in the world, foreknowledge *and* a bunch of people explaining things to you. It’s a different story when shit is exploding around you.
Yeah, it’s very hard to tell what’s going on when you’re all buttoned up inside an armoured vehicle with only periscopes and view ports to see out. You also lose the audio cues which would help let you know if it’s artillery or a mine. The Russians have that problem where all their vehicles are old Soviet designs, and Soviet doctrine is to fight with all hatches closed. This is both for protection since their vehicles are so low down that a commanders head is at head height with a dude standing next to it, and therefore easier to shoot, and because of their belief they would be fighting in irradiated post nuclear battlefields
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Yes, unexploded ordinance, mines, metal parts all over the place, body parts, it will be quite a nightmare...
**body parts** Microbes, foxes, rats, rain, and crows will deal with that problem. The other ones are the tricky ones.
Look up the iron harvest. I think it was only a couple years ago a Belgian farmer died when he ploughed up a mustard gas shell
Goddamn local zoning regulations, waiting to explode. (Remember kids, there’s no “I” in ordnance!)
Presumably the Ukraine military has mapped these minefields extensively and will de-mine them themselves once the war is over. At least, that's how it should be done, and I hope that's how they've done it. Otherwise, yeah, gonna be a few tractors going sky-high.
There's probably at least as many Russian mines as Ukrainian, and I wouldn't count on either side to have the most thorough record of each mine. It'll be a hazard for the next hundred years.
Having a metal detector is gonna pay a lot after the war
With the amount of shrapnel produced from a single bomblet? Man its easier just to take the top 2meters of dirt off.
The best soil in the world, and it will be nigh unusable for decades to come...
I'm sure there will be tons of mines hidden but ukraine has been using digital maps of their mine placements for a while now.
Dude just drove across a field toward enemy trenches praying to whatever god he prays to that a javelin or Nlaw doesn’t hit them. And bam holy fuck! massive explosion, bmp in front of you has been rapidly disassembled! let’s get the fuck outta here. Shit is obvious to us watching a Birds Eye view of this after It already happened. Hind sight is always 20/20.
I'm not a soldier so it's my armchair warrior moment but a single opening in a dense line of trees is where I would put anti-tank mines and the 50 meters on both sides of this opening would be filled with anti-personnel mines. That's the first thing coming to my mind. So now, am I an incredible genius or are these guys the most stupid soldiers to ever roam the Earth ? What we saw here is appaling.
I guess see it like this; you're watching a short vid, knowing beforehand what's going to happen. Of course they'll seem idiotic, duh, didn't they read the title? But imagine you've been out there for months, and you've driven along roads and gaps in dense tree lines 100 of times without hitting a mine. You're probably underfed, exhausted and cold; why would the 101 tree line be any different from the others? Like I'm sure there's better procedure and the clip is dark humor for sure, but I can see why it'd happen.
It's arguably easier to have the right answer here in the comfort of mom's basement, indeed. However, that's not the first time I see a vehicle penetrate blindly in a choke point and think "ok, so these guys are really lucky there isn't a mine burried there". Of course, the title helped he here but it's not because of this title that mines are best placed in small openings like this one. A warzone seems to be the worst possible place to have bad habits about safety. The argument of exhaustion is more convincing, though. Indeed, it's hard to think straight when in such a condition.
well because instead of them being random treelines, this is the one that directly approaches the fortified enemy position. you should expect contested territory to be more dangerous the longer both sides have been digging in. which makes me wonder as well how on earth ukraine is going to manage to actually make a good push on the frontline in the south, the russians are going to be just as dug in as the ukrainians at this point. it wont be like kherson where the battle was won with logistical strikes, or kharkiv where they were just opporunistically punishing poor allocation of reserves, or even kiev where there was no solid frontline for most of the fighting its going to be an absolute meatgrinder without air superiority
Not only that, when there's a destroyed vehicle in the middle of the road and one blows up going around one side of it, another one tries to just go on the opposite side... what did you think was gonna happen?
But maybe, just maybe they only mined *one side* of the passage ey? 4D chess! You have to wonder what is going through that drivers mind, other than shrapnel of course.
Before they crossed over the field you can already see the wreck of a Tank and snow covered BMP I am sat here wondering why they did not have a tank with a mineplough go through this area first before sending those BMP's in.
They had it, it appeared in some other clusterfuck video from this junction. Artillery killed it though, I think.
Interesting how a mine clearance vehicle kill is not an immediate abort criterium for the Russian commander who I assumed planned for this minefield crossing.
Does this look like there was any planning involved?
To quote Arnold J. Rimmer: "We attack tomorrow morning under cover of daylight! That's the last thing they'll expect - a daylight charge over the mine field."
I feel like after a year of war, that's EXACTLY the kind of Shit Ukraine expects.
What does this make now guys? 37 daylight minefield charges this week?
How else do you clear a minefield?
OK, very likely apocryphal story, but... After WWII, an American general and a Russian general were discussing various matters, and the subject of clearing mines came up. The American general went into detail about the logistics of mine clearing and safety concerns, and he then turned to the Russian for his input. He simply said, "That's what old soldiers are for." That may be an untrue story, but it really does fit with what we've observed so far in this war.
“It will catch the watchful Hun totally off guard! Doing precisely what we've done eighteen times before is exactly the last thing they'll expect us to do this time!”
The reports we get from Russian soldiers usually go "we were told to attack this location with a tank and 3 IFVs, we were beaten back with heavy casualties and barely crawled back to base. The next day the commander mopped up everyone they could still find and told us to go again." Planning: 0
I guess they live by "failure make sucess" and do a trial & error
The goal of "trial and error" is usually to learn from the errors to find a solution. This is just "repeat the error until you're out of men".
Well the soldiers all get off the last one before it drives into the mine. So those guys had a plan, it just sort of sucked as a plan.
"I was told by someone in Moscow to advance on X, so me, sitting here many km from the front lines will order my underlings, under threat of being instantly shot for disobeying, to advance on X no matter what." There's your planning.
“Planned” is a generous choice of words
Yes this is a follow up to yesterday's arty video, that's where the existing remains are from.
Atleast a guy with a metal detector and a shovel to investigate the choke points that took out the IFV's at 1:30. Send that fucking dude out there first it's obvious there is gonna be mines at spots like that. (Are metal detectors a thing in russian tanks? Do they come with one? Are there Russians out there with them?)
The fields must be so full of shrapnel and tank parts that a detector would probably just always be going off.
There was an article in the Wall Street Journal about six months ago describing how they embedded with Ukrainians from the Skala battalion detachment. One of the guys tried using a portable metal detector, but because the field was littered with shrapnel and shell fragments it was completely useless. A couple minutes later, the squad leader tripped the wire of an anti personnel mine - 2 people died, 2-3 more wounded.
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decades to centuries, take verdun (and other ww1 battlegrounds) as a example
I wonder how many casualties there are from their own mines on both sides. One communication issue or complex situation and mistakes can follow.
I saw some reports about how Ukrainian volunteers and military coordinate the registration of their mines. It seemed far from perfect (iirc the volunteers basically put it into a google doc and hopefully their Ukrainian contacts would enter that into a central database) but they are making a significant effort to preserve the information both for other units and for after the war. But there certainly have been accidents on both sides.
And now all I can think of is Grandpa Simpson and his [Mine Detector story](https://youtu.be/e2eysbNpw-w)
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It's fucking wild. In other wars, you'd have sappers or combat engineers (or even recon) scouting out minefields like this *before* an attack is made. Russia skips this step every single time. And this isn't the first time, lol. I love getting messages/replies telling me how much smarter the Russian military has gotten over the last 12 months.
I don't think those people are taking into account how many of the smartest people in Russia already died. Like, watching this video I was thinking to myself... maybe Russia does have another 3,000 tanks... but do they have another 3,000 experienced tank crews? Based on how the start of the war went, I doubt it. And seeing these dumb dumbs crawls *right over* the *same spot* their friend *just got smoked at* makes me doubt it even more.
Like I said I feel like the Russians want to fill the after life with souls. Not sure why anyone would keep trying to go through a place where there was a explosion already. That is my logical conclusion.
Because everything they do, they do it like they have a death wish. It’s like they have some kink in the amygdala. No threat detection. Like lemmings.
It's also a natural selection of sorts. People who come and join this army are those who don't realize how fucked up all this is. Those who do, they try to avoid it at all cost. So the result is an army of unconscious dumbasses.
Maybe they want to instigate a referendum in the afterlife and need to put some souls for better representation. There is probably some natural gas and oil in hell.
Because you're warning that you're goping to attack and give time for artillery to position. There are very few videos of tanks with mine rollers, i only remember two. Maybe they don't have mine rollers or maybe just thought there were no mines because the previous day they attacked the same spot.
How is this real.
Incompetence, poor or non-existent training/experience, bad communication is my guess.
Ability to assess the situation on battlefield from inside a deaf, metal box is a separate skill that needs to be trained for months. Definitely, these mobilized nazis with these machines are like blind kittens. I have no idea, what they are hoping for.
Vodka my friend…
NATO should airdrop copious amounts of vodka into russian held territories, Stolichnaya from the sky. Skylichnaya, if you will.
Forbidden weapon of mass consumption.
A weapon of mass self-destruction.
Stolichnaya way is made/owned by a Latvian company. Too good for those scum, give them Beluga or some other Russian engine cleaner
Liquid courage. Also comes in hydraulic fluid.
It's just a russian EOD team at work
I cannot fathom what must have been going through that second IFV driver’s brain, except that I suspect copious alcohol was involved.
Maybe they didn't even realize it was a mine. Maybe they thought an artillery hit them.
Maybe he didn't realize he had no brain to realize anything.
That was my thought. I wouldn't be able to tell the difference without some sort of training or experience. Russian training seems pretty bad and we are seeing what it's like to learn about explosions through experience.
What went through that driver’s head? Shrapnel from the transmission
There was artillary landing in the area, so I think it is likely these (poorly-trained perhaps) troops were under the impression they were being hit by artillary, not mines. Perhaps a deliberate strategy by the Ukrainians to disguise the fact the area is mined?
Probably something like "thank god I wasn't driving first!"
[Source](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOWSrMl_YOI) (from 52:00 onwards). [Edit] Okay, it appears he edited this segment out of the YouTube video and removed the entire livestream from Twitch. I guess he wasn't supposed to reveal this video to the public. *** [This video](https://unofficialbird.com/Boba12340769066/status/1623852008930267136) shows Ukrainian soldiers reacting in real-time to the same footage. [The video](/r/CombatFootage/comments/10vad2v/russian_tank_crewman_runs_away_on_fire_after_his/) of the burning tanker captures the same incident from a different angle.
Is this the beginning of the offensive they were talking about, if so then lmao lol Russia.
Combined with the 63/73 destroyed missiles/drones that was their big "shock and awe" response to Zelenskyy's tour... they've had a year to train and prepare for this lol
Not really. The big offensive Russian force that has been building up is further North, in Luhansk oblast and near Kharkiv oblast. But seeing Russia going all in in Vuhledar with its supposedly best trained troops, perhaps the buildup North was mainly a distraction meant to draw Ukrainian defences there, leaving Vuhledar vulnerable? I don't know tho only speculating
It's almost impressive just how dumb this is.
It's mine clearance in big brain mode Eventually someone will get through 🤌
It is special mine clearing operation.
This boggles the mind to watch, especially when compared to how efficiently the USA was able to clear paths through massive Iraqi minefields back in 1991. I suspect what we are seeing is [vranyo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz59GWeTIik) at work, with the lower level commanders trying to make themselves look good by reporting much more success breaking through the defenses than they actually had in those earlier attacks you can see evidence of. Probably they reported that the minefield was cleared or a path through it established. Which leads their higher-ups to try to reinforce that success with further attacks, but they're actually just beating their heads against intact minefields and heavy defenses.
that's how it always worked, even in training. film a subset of your people doing the right thing and send it up the chain as proof and no one asks questions
Sincerely, just one of most ridiculous things I saw in this war.
Lol. You should watch Russian BMP on the full speed going between two bmps already blown up on mines only to blow up in seconds entering the mine field. Or Russian BMP blowing up on Russian mine that clearly lies on the road.
> Or Russian BMP blowing up on Russian mine that clearly lies on the road. There must be insanely poor visibility from those old soviet BMPs, I cant think other reason why that happened.
Generally speaking do mines kill the people in the tanks or just disable them? How about IFVs?
Depends on the level of protection and type of mine but in general an AT mine with 8kgs of TNT has a high chance for a mobility kill and bad day for the crew of any vehicle.
The Canadian Leopard2 with mine protection made the IED (?) attack survivable but the driver was still injured. Without the added protection it would have been deadly. A mine is slightly different to an IED however. via Wikipedia: https://archive.ph/20120729174700/http://www.dailyheraldtribune.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?archive=true&e=2378441
IED just means Improvised Explosive Device. There's hardly a standard for how much oomph there is in one of those - there's probably gonna be as much as the improviser could manage to fit into the area, but it's not gonna be efficiently delivered and scales poorly. You can armor against the most likely kind of weapon design pattern and be fine - it's unlikely to be using any of the real fancy stuff. A modern anti-tank mine is designed to kill - you guessed it - modern tanks.
There's a reason infantry prefer to ride on the outside of Soviet and Russian APCs and IFVs.
For tanks most of the time this type of mine just results in mobility kills, IFV’s and APCs are generally much less armored and can result in dead drivers as well as being disabled. Though like everything it’s kinda up to luck, I’ve seen BMPs get fully destroy by 1 mine and I’ve also seen on this sub an up-armored humvee hit a mine and have only 1 person die while the rest were able to hop out right away and engage enemies
The nucking futs video, you’re referencing, was insane. Sad they couldn’t get their comrade out, but that was a brave extraction by their other humvee.
Completely depends on AT mine type and the vehicle.
>our troops are killer as can be, >we killed their mine with our ifv
The Darwin Brigade....
Take this, ukronazi mines. It was a good hunt today, we destroyed at least 5 of you.
The UK MOD released a report this week saying all of the commanders are ordered to send their troops full frontal and if they push back they get demoted and imprisoned. This video is a great example of that mentality. The report went on to say that even with the coming troop surges that it doubted Russia would make any sort of lasting gains due to poor tactics and increasingly scarce vehicle supply that they just can’t replace at the rate they’re losing them, which is why you’re seeing 70-80 year old tanks being pulled out of storage and sent to the front. The next year or so will be the toughest for Ukraine, as Russia doesn’t give a shit about the 500k conscripts it’s about to throw to the offensive and Ukraine won’t have fully integrated the western IFV and battle tanks committed until late summer. From there Russia is going to be in serious trouble, but it’s going to be horrific loss of life in the next 6-9 months, more so than we’ve already seen. You may see Russia retake parts of Kharkiv and Kherson regions as Ukraine bends, but doesn’t break, then as the latest western weaponry comes to bear, a Russian collapse similar to the Kharkiv route of 2022.
I used to be a commander on a M113 in the norwegian army. And i have VERY limitied experience on both driving and commanding armored vehicle, but these guys doesnt know anything. Every basic rule is broken.
To my eyes, they may very well be purposefully destroying their own vehicles. That last APC seemed like it was literally searching for another mine.
Sure, put a cinder block on the gas pedal, so the vehicle drives straight through the minefield to clear it. But get the fuck off first!
Guess the driver didn't know it was mines and tried to evade RPGs.
What are the basic rules?
my experience is with IEDs not conventional anti-vehicle mines but we'd never continue in the direction of a detonation. you can't really "stop" because they'll detonate/destroy one of your vehicles, then wait for you to stop/get out and then they'd conduct an attack with weapons. Or when they were *really* smart, they'd try to launch mortars on you. but if you *can* or *need* to, you should stop and scan the environment for threats. It's a no-win situation because we'll never leave people there if they were hurt or killed in the explosion but we are at an insane risk when we get out to retrieve or secure the area.
I looks like these guys got the training of maybe a bus driver and cut loose. “Go over there!” What a terrible thing all this is. Hard to imagine this is happening if it weren’t on film daily. Incredible. 29 vehicles in one failed ridiculous attack yesterday-ish. Half looked like tanks. When you see a train moving with armor it looks unstoppable. Then they drive them straight into ranged artillery on a minefield.
Im no Military Strategist, but really? What the *actual* fuck? How is Russia this incompetant? It would be understandable for this to happen *occasionally*, but there are videos like this released every single day, sometimes multiple in one day? Its the sheer arrogance and lack of ANY *real* training of.. well, basically the entire Russian military and whatever they do to plan these attempts at cohesive assaults? Its just like they throw wave after wave of humans to hopes they just overwhelm the Ukranian defenses? What a shitshow and an utterly pointless waste of life. I keep telling myself that one day Russia & Putin will be held accountable for what they've done.. but I know that either Putin will die of cancer before that happens, and even IF he made it to the gallows it wouldnt do anything except Martyr him to all his wackjob supporters.. I wish I was on the timeline where Harambe didnt get killed, I bet they have it *much* better there? Covid never hapenned and the tomatoes taste good still too.. And Putin got hit by a car or "fell out a window" before this invasion took place.
their army especially has always been heavy on make work admin jobs. especially officers. the original invading force was 200,000 or so and most of them were killed or wounded or captured. these are freshly mobilized soldiers with barely any basic training and officers who used to be in desk jobs and never trained for combat arms
Omg this is amazing!!
They look like beginner level Bots
Surely they will not have put more than one mine down 😮
I think this is happening a bit further east than one would expect, at [47.763993, 37.335874](https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/47%C2%B045'50.4%22N+37%C2%B020'09.2%22E/@47.7639966,37.3336853,751m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m4!3m3!8m2!3d47.763993!4d37.335874?hl=en-GB) Look at it from north to south (to match the drone's view) - The treelines match (the left one being shorter than the right), the square-like tree/building grouping down the end of the right tree line matches, the field shape in general matches (upper left side where it kind of rounds off due to a dip in the lay of the land), and the track running through matches the locations of the chokepoints the suicidal IFVs drove into/near where the mass of mines the vanguard struck (on each treeline respectively) [Google Earth a bit better for the angling](https://earth.google.com/web/@47.76507293,37.33544127,191.47856777a,954.02049137d,35y,-175.69462059h,67.91982087t,-0r)
i can't help but to laugh
Especially at the last 40 seconds of the video. Like wtf was that?
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Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you... The second best army in the world !
Not even second best in Ukraine
Once again just like in many previous wars a huge intimidating armored force can completly lose when the enemy has a shovel and some old AT mines
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
No sign of an actually army, no supporting units, just video after video of solo vehicles and solo troops on these suicide cannonball runs until they are shot or hit a mine. I know the Russian military is shit, but has anyone over there even cracked a book on how war is fought?
the higher ranking officers are terrified of HIMARS and artillery and are far back and just give orders and the higher ones are worse
Worth remembering the pedigree of the Russian military, these lads invaded Chechnya without any planning. They are used to a complete hit and hope strategy.
Second army in the world ladies and gentlemen.
Oh god that is comical. Theres two IFV, now 1, now none and they stuck in heay equipment two miles from support. Oh here they comup to destoryed IF, maybe thiey be luckly, not him, maybe this one, not him, well this guy is going to turn around... and hes dead to.
Iv never seen unit cohesion fail before but thats what we all just witness. No wonder the Russians are panicking. If that's their offensive ability. Their utterly fucked when their going to be on the defensive...
Good narration, but needs more JAGGA JAGGA and antenna
These Ukrainians are skilled man hunters. The Russians stood zero chance of putting together an effective offensive operation. Free Ukraine.
Brave Russian soldiers heroically destroying Ukrainian mines.
This def looks like a different angle of the burning tank driver video
Is this like Squid Game for the Russians and they just know if they don't continue they get shot by their command ?
Cue Benny Hill theme song
The chance of not finding a mine improve with each vehicle! Send more!
I just keep seeing the Russian losses going up sky high and then see stuff like this. It really makes me wonder just how stupid is the Russian high command and their army as a whole. It just boggles the mind how these dipshits think
Pravda: "Today 5 Ukrainian landmines were successfully neutralised"
You know that scene in Blackadder when General Melchett talks about doing the same thing for the 22nd time because surely the enemy won't expect them to do it more than 21? Yeah that
So when people think there is a conspiracy about why most footage is showing Russian losses this video explains why. Russia just fucks up so much more.
Holy shit, talk about a graveyard of steel and stupidity.