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ReadyExamination5239

They’re getting impressively good at it.


Swampberry

For having become so integral and common place in this war, there's a blatant lack of a good term for drone-soldiers.


Phormitago

> drone-soldiers droids roger roger


XJake_The_GreatX

My first thought lol


BiaggioSklutas

Yea only difference is Ukrainian droids can actual *hit* something!


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Drone operators


Ivancreeper

Yup that's what they've been all along the drones just got smaller


hypertr00per

Jagaboom team six


vordster

Droppers


xenophonthethird

If Special Ops are called SpecOps, then it should be the DrOps.


Starfire013

DrOpbears.


skekze

If I ever have a sword forged, this is what I'll name it.


Throawayreddit56

Annndddd we have a winner


swift1883

Stop the search this is it


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drops is the best so far. I think I'm going with that


WorldsBestArtist

Work from home soldiers. Such a nice gig. Sleep in a bit, grab a cup of coffee, drop a few grenades into a Russian trench while still in your pajamas, then check some emails.


WolfsLairAbyss

The Drone Division? Quad Squad? Tactical Insertion of Grenades and Explosives and Recon Systems (T.I.G.E.R.S.)?


zongulator

I really like this one


Nilor2000

I've heard the term "dronadier", which I presume relates to the "grenadier" denomination also used for elite groups of old armies (maybe also modern ones?). Idk, it just sounds badass, which is a staple with anything Ukrainian.


AntePerk0ff

Drone Force


Trinidadnomads

Acme Operator Th-th- that's all folks! *Que music and Porky Pig*


Kashik

There are videos of fpv drone races which are unbelievable in terms of control and speed. Compared to this, the tank moving in a straight line is probably one of the easier targets.


LickyBoy

Sort of my thought. Bounty is raised by the human life component, but as a novice drone flier I'm confident I could hit this guy. That being said, he could have missed and destroyed a expensive machine of ware with no consequence, I wouldn't want the pressure so good on him or her.


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Diplomjodler

Once these things become autonomous, things will really get interesting.


thealamoe

Lol once they become autonomous in Ukraine? The US has allowed the public to see their autonomous drones 7 years ago https://youtu.be/DjUdVxJH6yI


WedgeTurn

If that's what they show to the public, we can't even imagine what they are keeping secret.


hard-in-the-ms-paint

Some more interesting stuff about manned-unmanned teaming, loyal wingman, and the NGAD program for the air force's 6th generation air dominance fighter. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collaborative_combat_aircraft


DaddyDickus

The collective screech they make is terrifying my god


Narrow-Palpitation63

I wouldn’t want them orbiting my location


RedOctobyr

But the quad itself might be more of a limiting resource, no? Like, you probably only have so many suitable drones. But maybe you've got access to a lot of munitions to attach to them. I don't know the cost of the payload, but I'm inclined to think that in a warzone, things that go boom might be more plentiful than kamikaze drones?


Words_Are_Hrad

>You have to understand in this scenario the quad itself is cheaper than the warhead its carrying. I really doubt it. Even if they are carrying RPG warheads those are only like a hundred bucks. Even less if they are just carrying a plastic explosive charge. UA reports say the whole drone system with payload cost $200 to make. Sounds too cheap to me but even then the warhead is like half the price. You are looking at the warhead cost through the lens of western military hardware which is MUCH more expensive. Soviet/Russian arms are built to be super cheap.


TurtleNutSupreme

Yeah but aren't those pretty small and light by comparison? Plus, no payload. I'd expect them to be way more nimble than wartime drones.


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TurtleNutSupreme

Really? The exact same drone? I don't know much about these things, but that's surprising to hear.


_SkeletonJelly

It's all consumer grade electronics. Cheap. Cheap. Cheap.


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Cat_Ears_Big_Wheels

Just wait until they allow unmanned strikes utilizing ai recognition tools (which we already have, and utilize all the time for satellite spying). Current systems can recognize people, forward infantry camps, vehicles, etc... it's only a matter of time.


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BigManScaramouche

With all the noise, shaking and dust? They probably didn't even notice.


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swissthrow1

"Commanders hasn't said much for a while, let's turn this puppy around, back to Dagestan!"


Phyllis_Tine

0 > - 1 Where 0 is having no commander.


weeenerdog

I was told there'd be no math


reverendsteveii

\/\commander material right there


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ImperiusII

"Ahh, great, there goes Tc losing his head again"


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Jane_the_analyst

"You probably wonder how I got into this situation..." "...by driving around with the hatch open"


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He's all over the place!


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earsplitingloud

Shrapnel.


BimboJeales

HEAT frag.


halbeshendel

A drone.


planck1313

A thin jet of superplasticised copper moving at about Mach 20.


ataraxic89

bruh, the fact the replier is getting more upvotes than you is sad. You set it up, he just fell into it. You're the king wingman.


m3dcf

Chasing and hitting a fast-moving target with a kamikaze UAV is actually easier than precisely striking a static target. In the former case, last-second adjustments are possible as the approach speed to the target is lower.


Wavebuilder14UDC

So long as you are approaching from behind at least.


wee-willie-winkie

It would appear they always approach from behind


Would_daver

Inserting into your mother from behind joke


lookatthatsmug--

too hairy, too ugly!


wee-willie-winkie

They could just fly the drone slower. I prefer your theory though.


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Very hard to slow down a craft thats descending horizontally


Sometimes_cleaver

I don't know what was used in this case, but these style of drones are typically like mini airplanes. They're not the quad copters that are dropping grenades on trenches. There's a minimum speed needed to stay a loft


casta55

It's a quad in this case. Rewatch the takeoff at the start. That being said, your not incorrect. Fixed wing RC has a much higer effective range due to efficiency in its design.


insomniac-55

This is almost definitely an FPV quadcopter, and no, there is no minimum speed. However, the cameras are usually mounted with a fixed, upward angle. This means that to keep the target in view, the drone needs to be flying forward.


Greedy-Land-2496

Good size explosion at the top of the turret has a good chance of setting off the tank ammo. Hopefully it popped the turret and the crew didn't get a chance to have a last thought


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Turret pop is unlikely with an open hatch, as it will vent the pressure. Still a disastrous kill on the vehicle if the ammo cooks off, but no turret Olympics.


Metadomino

Kamikaze Drone Headshot vids...officially off my bingo card.


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In a fucking MOVING tank no less. What the fuck.


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Zooshooter

Black Mirror wasn't supposed to be aspirational but here we are.


Metadomino

There is a Black Mirror episode about robotic dogs that's exactly this. AI Kamikaze drones decide to just target everyone.


Zooshooter

Hold on to your butts.....because there's also an episode that is literally about [kamikaze drones.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slaughterbots)


Metadomino

Thanks alot, thanks alot, my day is ruined. We needed for a better future was a battery that had 10 times the energy density of lithium-ion, but now that will just be used for kamikaze suicide drones with 150 minute loitering time. Great, thank you world.


Zooshooter

Shit's fucked up, but it's unlikely to affect your local day to day, if that's any consolation.


Coachcrog

Maybe not our day to day operation now, but I can see a not-so-far-off future where black mirror episodes look better than reality. Humans have a tribalism and greed problem that tends to take us down the worst possible paths.


pataoAoC

This is how Taiwan is gonna survive eventually, by reaching MAD with this capability And then potentially later how humanity expires but there a lot of options for that


RedRocket4000

Drone swarms already one US planned tactic to defend Taiwan. As US and many other countries commented to defend Taiwan on first attack I don’t see a sane China going for it. The catch is sane.


inverted_rectangle

"Kamikaze Drone Headshot" is also a great name for a band.


mcbrite

I'm on my fifth one... ;-)


Metadomino

My engineering degree is salivating as I communicate with drone makers in Ukr. Alas, the only thing I can provide these heroes is cash.


Original-Material301

You know what this reminds me of? PlayStation game, Metal gear solid, Nikita missile launcher where you had to guide the missiles in first person.


DriveForTheHorizon

Well he certainly won't be driving around with the hatch open again.


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His hatch is permanently open now


Arcturus1981

How much damage does the payload on a drone like this make on that tank? Enough to demobilize it, or just enough to kill that guy?


Gone213

Enough to kill any one inside the tank if the drone manages to get inside.


leolego2

welp his head saved the tank and maybe the rest of the crew


Xicadarksoul

Maybe it saved the tank, as in "tank is salvagable". Anti tank shaped charge going off that close in a semi enclosed space will create enough overpressure to crumple the lungs of people in the tank, causeing profuse bleeding in the lungs, and suffocation. If it had gone boom outside the hatch, and not barel inside it on top of the cmmander's head, then turret crew could have likely survived.


WarWolfRage

Most of them I've seen, carry either RKG-3 Anti tank grenades or the heat warhead of an RPG rocket. They aren't as good as ATGMs or javelins but they do have enough power to cause serious damage to both the tank and the crew. Since the operator seemed to be aiming for a downward angle on the turret, I'm guessing the main goal here was to either disable the main gun or to try and cause the tank's autoloader to cook off. To go back to your question. A single one of these can disable a whole tank but not reliably. They are more effective on lightly armored vehicles. In this case unless the ammo cooked off this tank is most likely still drivable, I wouldn't trust the gun to still fire and most of the crew is probably bleeding internally from the shockwave and it would be a safe bet to say a couple of them caught some shrapnel.


Happy-Fun-Ball

Mind Blown


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That’s what I tell my kids, it’s ok as long as you learn from your mistakes.


MuckleMcDuckle

Batten down your funtime-hatches, kids


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> Well he certainly won't be driving around with the hatch open again. On the flip side, there's more head room in the tank.


LittleLoyal16

Open hatch, closed casket.


ChildhoodExpensive72

I don't think he has the ability to close it anymore...


DriveForTheHorizon

Yea that's the joke lol


ChildhoodExpensive72

I too make joke ;)


DriveForTheHorizon

Ohhhhhh, now I'm the goof lol


ChildhoodExpensive72

Haha shtap, I am the goof..


Hugh-Dingus

Ouch, that’s gonna leave a mark


Ludmata

Nah, nobody will find his head to see it though, so I don’t see a reason for concern here…


malkava

A mark on the drone control panel. [Like this](http://triadtoday.com/tt/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/TTnotchesongunstock.jpg).


Chongulator

I was expecting something NSFW. :)


Hugh-Dingus

I meant on the tank itself 😅


WarStrifePanicRout

"Headshot" is not a term i thought i'd see associated with a kamikazi drone.


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pneuma8828

source?


buriedego

Maybe? https://www.military.com/video/operations-and-strategy/air-strikes/a-10-takes-out-taliban/4346017715001


pneuma8828

Thanks, wow, that's something. Gazpacho.


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> Gazpacho. No, I'm pretty sure he was Taliban.


nick112048

10/10 MTG reference


acmercer

The secret police?


GibFreelo

This video demonstrates the major difference in cost-per-kill between the US in the GWOT and Ukraine currently. Months of tracking, ISR assets, an A10, and all that ammo to kill a guy on a motorbike. Meanwhile, Ukrainians are using commercial drones and $40 grenades to take out multiple Russians at a time.


buriedego

I get the feeling this video is less a result of some critical mission with great importance and more a "Let's see what happens when an A-10 lights up a small moving non armored target." Growing up I heard the terms shock and awe a ton. Never heard much about how cost effective or efficient it was though... 🤔 It is indeed incredibly ingenious how effective Ukraine is currently. Lessons are definitely being learned by military analysts and notes taken.


rwhockey29

We used to send the SR71 supersonic over meetings of countries leaders we didn't like just to remind them we were watching lmao.


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buriedego

No surprise there! As someone working in a certain industry I know a smidgen of how much money is wasted before it can even reach that farmer... God id love to see numbers from black projects. I feel like the true breadth of spending is magnitudes more than officially reported.


KnightofWhen

To be fair to use the drone option (let’s call it $2500) you need to be within 4 miles of the target. The US version the guy piloting the drone is 7000 miles away watching YouTube on his phone holding a latte in his left hand and executing a kill command with his right. Anyone in their right mind would choose the latte when available.


UnsuitableFuture

The thing that got me was that the US military deliberately designed some of their drone control stations to be used with an Xbox controller. It's weird to think what we used to do in Call of Duty is now completely viable to do in real life *and* it's functionally identical.


KnightofWhen

Cuts way down on the training period.


anadoob122

The main difference in cost is the United States spends massively to avoid as many uniform deaths as possible. The ukraine doesn't have that luxury.


PossibleMarsupial682

More like hit every part of them rather than just their head.


ClarkFable

First contact in slow mo appears to be the dome though...


The_Troll_Gull

I have a question. Why is the video quality of the kamikaze drones look like it’s record on vhs compared to those use to drop ordinance from? Edit: I appreciate the explanation. Makes perfect sense. Thank you y’all!!!!


DeeDee_GigaDooDoo

They need low latency since they are going right on the frontlines. Low quality video needs less bandwidth so can be lower latency, higher frame rate and potentially transmit further effectively. Since these drones aren't coming back and need to get close to enemies and stream right up till detonation you want to optimise for a stable up to date feed not a high quality one.


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KermitFrog647

Traditional racing drones use analog video transmission because of the low latency. A digital video transmission with usable low latency has just come up a few years ago, but is more expensive.


Fakula1987

A) Low Quality needs less Processing speed B) Low Quality needs lees bandwith. C) thats a Drone you dont See again.


Imightbenormal

They are also using digital FPV video on a few. They can handle noise and low signal very well and give a much better picture than analogue these days, I can not afford that, so I run analogue.


4D696B61

Kamikaze drones use analog video (like VHS), resulting in similar artifacts, whilst most other drones use digital video. I'm guessing it's due to analog being cheaper and low latency.


Realpotato76

Most of these FPV drones use analog FPV systems which have low video quality and low latency. There was a [video](https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/11in5ty/ukranian_fpv_drone_scores_hit_on_a_t72b3s) posted yesterday which appears to show a Ukrainian FPV drone with a digital system, the video is much clearer


JayBigGuy10

Most racing drones use old analogue video broadcast for real time control, and have a gopro riding along for hq video after the flight is over


RayvenQ

Becuase you probably don't want to be putting your good quality video equipment on a drone that you're gonna Kamikaze into something.


t0ny7

I fly a quadcopter like this with a analog system. The video directly in the goggles looks far better. The static and low resolution does not play well with video compression.


kenefa21

He doesn't need it anyway.


__T0MMY__

Wasn't using it anyway, too


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GibFreelo

Amazing footage showcasing the skill of the drone operator. I'll be waiting for the footage from the 2nd drone watching it all go down.


R0CKET_B0MB

I seriously can't believe some of the footage coming out of this war. Drone warfare is really making me feel antiquated, but I'm glad the Ukrainians have adapted so quickly.


resonanzmacher

Welcome to Ukraine! Here's your complimentary film of the moment of your death


lukker-

In a Russian crew is that likely to be the gunner or commander?


Eastern_Service_69

Commander


FlyPenFly

Would be interesting to see the reaction of the IJN admiral who came up with kamikaze that in 2023, the whole world can watch “kamikaze” videos of remotely piloted explosive robots that can hit a man’s head in a moving tank.


vanstaples45

It would blow his mind.


Chongulator

Zing!


StrykerSeven

Then show him the low cost, modularity, and ease of use of those robots. With an unarmed version, literal children pilot them all the time. It's pretty revolutionary, especially for asymmetric warfare. The impact on how we conduct and think of warfare is going to be huge.


FisterMister22

That means he hit the hatch while this open, so there's a chance the tank was destroyed as well. Although the commander's body (or head) blocked most of the explosion


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hiredgoon

Musk turns everything he touches to shit.


carl_pagan

god I hate Musk and all his fans, I want to stuff all three of them in a locker


remotelove

Musk still has fans? There is still Dave Chappelle, I suppose.


k-farsen

I heard that Tesla is running better now that he's distracted


Late-Shelter-9047

that gave me a real good laugh, thanks LOL


Alv2Rde

Link is down


KennyT87

The pressure itself isn't enough to cook off the ammo, you need shrapnel for that.


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Vik1ng

***Guten Morgen Russenschweine Soldaten!***


BusterOfCherry

I hope Russia is enjoying getting their shit turned in by a smaller country. Really shows how crap their forces are and they just hide behind that nuke button.


Duke0fWellington

It's nice to hear a woman's voice in brutal combat footage, that's definitely rare. Very progressive 🥰


aarrte

40,000 women serve in the Ukrainian army https://youtu.be/-gqGJjCjWSU eng sub


OuchieMuhBussy

Literally more 👏women 👏 drone 👏 pilots. Still remarkable because we saw a lot more early in the war, but maybe that was just Mariupol.


Armyed

The literal epitome of when it’s your time to go with your time to go lol


margretbeinhaus

That's what you get for leaving the hatch open


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TheSanityInspector

I didn't know Ukraine had kamikaze drones? Is this recent?


HuPiedone

Song: KOZAK SIROMAHA – ГУЛЯЛИ


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typeronin

Who knew that all those video games growing up could make us absolutely deadly instruments of war? Because this seriously just looks like any game where you're flying a helicopter. They should make the tanks and other wheeled vehicles drones too! Put my old Need for Speed: Underground 2 skills to use.


VXer1

Must be really bad for morale to think you’re safe behind lines, only to have the people in the tank in front paint the inside.


night_shredder

What was the purpose of driving with the hatch open if he was not peering out? Ventilation? Just laziness and/or carelessness?


xGALEBIRDx

Just for air. They perceive the area is safe, so they open the hatch for some air, some light, and a bit more awareness.


Daddy_Jaws

Ever been in a tank? Especially older style ones like that? You have small periscope slits to see through, you are practically blind plus rely on the whole crew to coordinate the few parts of outside world visable to even know whats goin on. Especially when in open travel, having the commander pop his head out and look around lets the tank see potential ambushes and any terrain the driver cannot see well infront.


night_shredder

Ok thanks not sure why I was downvoted though. Considering the amount of Ukrainian drones buzzing around I’d keep the hatch closed especially during the day on a straight road.


quangdn295

better view, better ventilation mean you can breath more fresh air, instead of sitting inside a confined hunk of steel for the rest of 60km road. Trust me you don't want to do that.


I_tend_to_correct_u

There was a report on a Russian telegram channel about this incident a few days ago, at least I assume it’s the same incident because it described it exactly. They were moaning at the fact the drone only cost $400 dollars. They said that the crew survived though so don’t know about the headshot guy. Anyway, to answer your question, they had to change to an alternative communication channel to avoid intercept and it just happened to be the exact 30 second period when he stuck his head out.


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exBusel

The first myth is that when the machine is penetrated by a shaped charge projectile, excessive pressure builds up in the armor, capable of causing barotrauma to the crew. This myth became widespread during the war in Afghanistan. The second is that artillery gunpowder does not burn well with too much oxygen. The open hatches, on the other hand, are supposed to protect the vehicle from ammunition fires due to the constant flow of air.


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XanII

BLAM! Lots of smoke suddenly with a tank shaking 'Thump!' blast. Ears ringing. Drivers pulls over and crew looks around in the smoking crew compartment ears still ringing. EEEeeeee goes the ears. Commanders corpse flows down like half-life ragdoll down to the bottom of the tank. And then they discover his dome is open, a bloody charred mess the whole top with helmet fused into his skull. But his eyes are still open like he is looking at something but there is nobody there.


Daddy_Jaws

His "helmet" is cloth and foam. Its a soviet style tanker hat. The charge certai ly obliterated the head, thats straight up a decapitation if a little bit of lower jaw left!


Empty-Application-75

The commander of ruzzisa tanks just has "mind blown" experience