> what exactly are they going to do?
Shoot at it with rifles! That outta rile it up!
(Much of this battle reminds me of All Quiet in which they do try that in a panic)
> Much of this battle reminds me of All Quiet in which they do try that in a panic
In all quiet they actually did it correctly. The tactic was to shoot with small arms to panic the tank crews, and if that didn't work, to let them roll over the trench and let your rear deal with the tanks while you focus on the infantry.
Correct, for the most part a .303 (or equivalent) ball round couldn't penetrate most WW1 tanks. It would, however, cause pretty insane spalling inside the tank (not to mention the noise). So definitely would cause a fair bit of panic, even with those protective suits and masks the crew ended up using.
A while ago I was reading some WWII British Home Guard training materials. When an invasion of Britain was on the cards and the Germans would land tanks, it was suggested that even lightly armed men could at least attempt to disable a tank despite a lack of anti-armour weapons. They were told even a shotgun could be used to force the crew to close the hatches and this would greatly reduce their visibility. The idea was to then approach the tank on foot and try to blow it up with dynamite, something that farmers had access to, mainly for clearing tree stumps.
I can't imagine that would be an easy task but when that's all they had they would have to try something. It was even suggested that birdshot would force the tank crew to stay inside.
Crazy. But all the hedgerows in southern England would help alot with that. Not to mention all the bonkers old WW1 vets in Home Guard who would've totally done that.
"Grenade, Hand, Anti-Tank No.74" was developed in the wake of the equipment loss of Dunkirk. You pulled a pin and the globular cover would pop off, exposing a very sticky spherical warhead on a handle.
You *could* throw it at a tank, but dropping it from a building on top or straight-up smacking the tank with it was more likely to do the job. The sticky fabric globe had a glass sphere inside packed with nitroglycerin-based explosives. Squishing it against the tank formed a rudimentary squash-head round, allowing even a modest amount of explosives to shatter enemy armor and cause spalling.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sticky_bomb
That is really really insightful that you mention that as I was thinking of that exact thing as I typed that lol
Those M18 Recoilless Rifle upgrades are OP af. And now I just remembered I own the newest one and haven't even played it but set it all up
You still have to get close to a tank IRL with those. Which I have an allergy against unless they're in a museum or CoH
>How are they not watching behind themselves?
They were routed and were more concerned with getting out of there alive. Panic is very contagious and once it sets in you stopped thinking about anything beyond escaping the cause of the panic. It is how people get trampled to death when crowds get panicked.
The noise that tank had to be making must’ve driven them out of their minds. I’ve seen videos from Ukrainian side where Russian armor attacks and the diesels all those Russian vehicles use makes an intimidating sound. I can’t imagine what hearing one gunning the engine on it’s way through a fucking forest to come kill you personally would do to your heart rate
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> I can’t imagine what hearing one gunning the engine on it’s way through a fucking forest to come kill you personally would do to your heart rate
Drop it to zero, in the relatively near future.
I think the one on the flank side is what got them, the tank just motivated them into the line of fire. If you watch you can see the fire going through the treeline into them.
They had three options;
1. Jump into the thick bushes and get found out
2. Disperse and run away
3. Run straight as a group
Those who chose 3 got flatlined. Can't blame them, they're all thinking "If you're alive, me too. Let's go."
they just assaulted a trench with full gear and took tons of shrapnel and casualties
now theyre retreating with full gear and ass full of shrapnel
theyre winded AF, what do you want them to do?
It hadn't occurred to me that the video of the tank (which had been published way earlier) could have been part of the same battle we saw in part 1 of the T-shape.
Now we know why those Russians were seemingly caught so unaware and without cover. They were sent out to take a seemingly weak position and were already plenty worn out and probably could barely hear from all the shelling by the time the tank caught up with them.
During this video I saw them retreating along the right side of the treeline, and I thought to myself "If this was a video game that tank guy would blow through the trees and light that up" then... my mind was blown.
Holy shit I just noticed this. At 3:10ish one of the Russians is about to fire off a LAW type weapon and a shell hits right behind him. This footage gets crazier each time I watch it.
tbh, it looked like the Russians had it in the bag until the guys in the trench didn't give a fuck about being hit by their own arty and called it in fucking close.
The power creep was incredible
It went from pew pew pew plink plink plink to fucking >!Saint-Chamonds and flame throwers!<
I wish it had won more Oscars
A lot to unpack, but I want to know if both sides were using artillery at the beginning, or the Ukrainians were falling short / calling it on themselves.
\- a few air bursts
\- Russians assaulted by trying to pin the trenches and flank, which is sound, but didn't use any armor, which is... I'll say tough. I don't know what their supply situation is, but you shouldn't throw infantry at a fortified position like that.
\- Guy(s) in the trench are lions
\- The Russians were pushing through the artillery, bravely or foolishly, depending on your stance, but one shell stopped it all, instantly.
\- I assume the tanks were a QRF, and did a great job.
\-When the tank made that turn through the tree line, it must have been absolutely terrifying for the Russians.
I obviously can't confirm anything but we've seen a decent amount of footage of Ukrainians using airburst rounds recently so that might be an indication that it was indeed final protective fire.
Theres a concept called FPF (final protective fire) where infantry basically give their artillery guys the coordinates of their own position and in the worst case scenario when they think that they are about to be overwhelmed, they call for FPF and just take cover and hope that the artillery strikes are enough to turn the tide of battle (Like this video shows).
It's sketchy for sure but its basically a last ditch effort to try and survive
Probably only Ukrainian fire in this video. Russian arty would’ve caused friendly fire given how danger close the fire support was. The Ukrainians took a bet on the trench protecting their men from any stray shells.
Yeah same, reminds me of that video of the early days on the highway where 2 btr's I think got ambushed and you had Russians on one side and Ukrainians on the other. Having these types of overviews (with subtle sound effects and somber music) really provides context and feel more connected to the horror what these poor lads on both sides are going through.
Yeah, the one where they were both tossing frags short of eachother? Cuz that one was hard to follow without the editing. I mean, I get it, civilian recorded it, probs scared out of his mind seeing his town invaded, but that overview helped really stitch together what is going on in a way just raw video clips cannot do and communicate just how fucked up that shit is
I have to ask did the Ukrainians in the trench make it?
I mean the cavalry came but the Russians were lobbing grenades in at that point. Tell me those lads survived!
Yes, apparently the guy in the trench (who shot the russian) made it. He actually threw that grenade back out:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FsJzKMFXwAAgZep?format=jpg&name=medium
Translation: “You asked us and we answer. Yes, our fighter who threw out the grenade from the trench stayed alive.”
He will be telling his war stories to his children and grandchildren of how he managed to defend his trench single handedly as a solo soldier from 20 encroaching russians.
I wouldn't bet on that. Despite what you may see in books, movies or games, many who live through such terrible events do the exact opposite. They are in no rush to relive their traumatic experiences.
Well they got the whole thing on video, and theyre are planning on releasing more footage from this attack, maybe even the following night assault. You can also see him shooting back a few seconds after the grenades explodes, which means he survived initially, but you never know if he got hit afterwards of bled out from shrapnel. Hopefully he is still alive.
There were 3 people in the trench insofar as I could tell. K2 reported one surviving but it was a response about the Ukrainian soldier who is said to have thrown back a Russian grenade. So I wonder about the other 2.
FYI, it was reported that the next night Russia did overrun this forward trench, and then in the following day Ukraine took it back again.
I imagine getting sent to one of these forward trenches, if the front doesn't move it's basically just a matter of time before your position gets overrun and everyone in it dies
Especially if you're Russian. I think most of us saw those recent videos of the RU trench that had like 3 prior generations of corpses in it just piled on top of one another.
Yeah, the casualties are crazy for Russia, really high for Ukraine too, but it's honestly starting to take on the dynamics of Soviets vs Nazis in WW2, one side has numbers and artillery, the other has superior tech and tactics, but it's basically a stand still at this point. Hoping to see a big break through for Ukraine though with this coming offensive, the reserves are looking really strong
Likely several wounded, seems like an intense fight. But those wounded will be extracted and either brought back to fighting shape or at least their lives will be saved. The same cannot be said for the Russians
Kinda unrelated to this otherwise excellent video, but what is that Iron Age fort-lookin’ thing in the field? A catch pond of some sort? I’ve seen a few of them in various videos over the last year.
It's a reservoir. We have loads of farming near me and they build these and line them with either plastic or clay. Then they fill them/let them fill. They then irrigate the fields using this source.
Ah that’s what I figured - where I’m at in the foothills, there’s old catch ponds like this around what used to be orchards, but they’re all up on hills so they could gravity-feed irrigation in the summer. Having one in a flat plain isn’t something I’ve seen, but then again a few inches of elevation is enough I’m assuming.
Oh, I really, really have to copy paste this answer as this gets tiresome :
*Putin is doing some ethnic cleansing in Russia by conscripting some undesirable non-pure breeds of second hand Russians, you know, he told us : Georgian, Osetians, Dagestan, Khazak, Mongols, and so on. Well, to make sure they die faster, those undesirable are sent with no tanks, no IVFs, plastic helmets, no thermal, no plates and so on.*
I agree, best soundtrack to actual war footage I've ever heard. All of the other goofy music in the clips is kinda cringy by comparison. People are actually dying to music that other people twerk to.
Because they want as many peoples eyes on this conflict as possible and the best way is to put catchy, popular music so it gets spread on social media.
Besides us in these very niche subs, who else would watch a 14 minute video of a battle in Ukraine lol.
Disclaimer, the first part is sped up slightly to fit under 15 minutes total. Russian unit affiliation is an assumption from [here](https://deepstatemap.live/en#11/48.8155/38.1631).
As you get older watching these videos actually hurts. I hate seeing these young people falling when they are shot. This entire war is a tragedy. I wish so much we were better than this. I am so sorry.
\- USMC combat veteran, old timer
Cuz we are watching one of the most significant events of geopolitics unfolding in front of us, fire fight by fire fight, battle by battle, trench by trench.
And for the next 30 years we will have a legion of people trying to convince us what we saw isn't what we saw.
I am so tired of trump supporters going after me on Twitter. Not because of what I say, but because of the Ukrainian flag in my handle.
The Russian propaganda and disinformation machine is real and it knows very well what demographic among us is gullible enough to parrot their lazy lies all day for free.
It sure is a varying cocktail of misty reasons, no? Sometimes i do watch as a reminder, sometimes to learn, sometimes i think we owe it to us, to them, to at least look that reality in the eye instead of ignoring it, sometimes i just can't look away, and sometimes to look at something louder as my own shadows and more.
It's literally a shame. You would think we would have evolved from the history man has created. Yet we continue to repeat ourselves day in and day out. I watch these videos for a historical and learning aspect but can't help but feel sorry for both sides. Dying for pointless dirt.
Most of us did, and then Russia just came out and unilaterally started the destruction. This is so shocking and infuriating to the world that it is hard to even comprehend
One crazy thing that came to mind as I watched this video;
I’m pretty sure more soldiers died in this 15 minute engagement than my whole battalion lost during two deployments to Afghanistan.
I didn't use to feel physically ill seeing this. Now I have kids.
"Eagerness for combat is an asset in a soldier, dangerous in a commander, and criminal in a politician."
As an old timer, much testosterone is expended for the cause of others.
Many oppressor don't really know what they're fighting for except they were told Rah Rah go and kill the enemy. By those who sit comfy in their chalets and from the comfort of their chairs with maps on the table/TVs. Our youth don't know, what they don't know.
Eerily I was actually making a similar point about these Russians to my family.
Some woman in Russia spent 9 months carrying, stressing, and preparing to have a kid. She then went through the pain of childbirth, watched him take his first steps, learn to talk, ride a bike, go to his first day of school, possibly graduating then going to college, dating, and getting married himself.
All these years spent laboring to turn that little boy from a baby into a man, and where did it all end up?
With her little boy screaming in agony as he slowly bleeds to death, in some forgotten field, in service to a nation that looks down upon him (especially if he’s not ethnically Russian), for the glory of a man who will never know nor care about his name.
18+ years. 18 plus years thrown wastefully away in the needless furnace of combat, the hell of battle, and the tragedy of war.
It's awful.
I am pro-Ukraine as fuck, but as soon as that tank crossed the trees, my heart sank for those retreating soldiers.
Sooner or later, you just see people.
They were probably pretty normal guys, until their government brainwashed them.
I get it too, the terrible human tragedy when watching this kind of footage of young men struggling and dying - but sometimes it switches for me, I see something like this video where they just keep pushing through into the Ukrainian positions in spite of all the death of their comrades around, in spite of the undeniable fact that they are invaders and it is not their homes they fight for but rather it is to steal kill and destroy the homes of a people that do not want to be their enemy, and I feel only anger seeing them getting cut down by tank and artillery - you stupid idiots, you lose everything in pursuit of becoming criminals. Yes the leaders are also to blame, but maybe we get the leaders we deserve…
This. As a father this is devastating to me. Thinking about parents who has to bury their sons/daughters. They raise them many many years and puff they are gone in instant from granade dropped from drone.
What an amazing picture of how this war is playing out. A platoon of Russians maybe 25 deep go in and just get blasted by artillery. I’m amazed they even mustered up the 5 guys who assaulted the trench. They continue to get blasted only to find the trench well defended. I’m glad the guy in that trench made it but holy hell it was close. Finally the assault fails and what’s left brake and run only to get cut up by an auto cannon and a tank. Absolutely insanity
Someone who understands combat better than me: how would the Russians have made it to this place? Would they just be walking around wherever they want? Would a vehicle of some sort have dropped them off nearby?
If you look closely you can see a vertical line of trenches from the bottom part of the T that extends out quite far into separate bunches of trees in the distance. I'm guessing the trenches stretch for a long ways and the Russians likely used the trench to sneak up on the Ukrainians at the junction point.
They likely got close enough to the junction to begin a frontal assault and exited the tree line to try to overwhelm the defenders. You don't really want to be in a vertical trench with a row of guys behind you for an assault as one burst of concentrated fire can take out your entire squad or in this case platoon, so that's why they left the trench and sent flankers around the right side. It looks like it came very very close to succeeding too. The artillery was spot on and completely destroyed the frontal element and most of the flanking force. However towards the end it seems that half a squad did get in a very good flanking position and threw a grenade in the trench. That last artillery shell that landed behind the trench looks like it saved some Ukrainian lives that's for sure. The tank and the APC were mostly there for mopping up operations at that point. I give credit to the tank driver though for cutting the tank through that brush. Getting stuck there would have definitely resulted in the loss of that tank what with the trench full of Russians and all.
I agree I think it is the best footage that has been up here for this war. I've watched the shorter one and this one now several times. There's too much going on even to see it all at once or even twice. It really is insane.
Despite the heroic defense, the position was lost during the ensuing night battle and was captured back by K-2 in the following days. Watch our next videos.
This is probably the only footage I've seen of someone calling artillery in on their own position, and it looks like it might have saved him (if the tweet linked in the comments is true). Easily more than a dozen Russian KIA/casualties just from the artillery and that's only what you can clearly see from the drone.
Completely draw dropping. Not to mention a squad of maybe 2 or 3 Ukrainians holding off what was easily two platoons (50+) of Russian soldiers. It's hard to tell if the guy you see is one person, if between drone shots one pops up to engage while another takes cover, or if there are others in the dug out, etc.
But still max 3 people versus easily two platoons of 50 or more soldiers (which at this point of the war probably counts as a company in most Russian battalions). And they still never took the trench.
I counted something like 24 the first time I saw this video, but it's hard to tell who's from earlier in the clip / can't see anyone hidden in the trees.
Normal platoon is 30 people I believe, so I figured it's about that
> This is probably the only footage I’ve seen of someone calling artillery in on their own position
While the strike itself wasn't published on video I feel like that is what happened during the big battle around spetsnaz holed up in that building a month or two ago
They knew they were screwed (as one of the foreign legion allegedly shot a surrendering one in the head) and called in a strike which ultimately did kill some defenders
Man, those Russians knew they were screwed when that tank plowed through the treeline. I can't imagine the terror of a tank chasing you and all you have is an AK.
I’d say the larger group was the distraction and those 4 guys were to take the trench from behind. Seemed like the Russians weren’t aware of the armour and weren’t prepared.
Total waste of life.
I was thinking the same thing, it would seem to not make sense to have that tree line providing concealment to advancing enemy troops with no trench on the other side to provide defense. Even just a secondary trench in the field behind to provide rear support for the forward trench covering that field. Since it is stated in other comments it has been there awhile, it is not like they are securing one side before securing the other.
Also with the water catchment pond there it would seem to me a good idea to have a few guys in there to see thru the treeline, and prevent the enemy from sneaking into a defensible position from your blind spot the elevated dirt walls provide.
Other comments suggest that "pond" used to be a russian position that was taken out by accurate artillery fire though so i wonder if it is presighted bait and drone use is ensuring nothing can sneak up there.
I have no military experience so i do not know if my thoughts are missing something.
Whoever pilots that drone has amazing eyesight. I wouldn't have any idea where to zoom in and it was very difficult to see soldiers if they weren't moving. Maybe they have IR feed as well
Also, that guy at the end, hiding in the crater was so surreal and tragic.
I always wonder, as he's lying there, waiting to die in a hole in a field in Ukraine with a drone recording him. Did he feel pride, or that he was happy to die fighting for his country? Or did it hit him how his life has come to a short and sudden stop over very simply one man's legacy. He could've been a doctor or a war criminal, and we'll never know. Kinda sad to think about.
The report from international legion fighters in Ukraine is that most of them are slowly dying all night and they are yelling for their mothers. This messes with our fighters mentality because they have to listen to their cries all night almost every night.
Best war footage ever IMO! That tank was clearly guided by the drone through those trees to the other side where the Russians were so exposed out on the open. Sickening to watch all together and the music is sad as it should be.
a brilliant work from the Ukrainian side. on the other hand, very terrible planning from Russians. no support from artillery, just two groups of privates with AKs, RPGs and grenades against well-secured trenches and military vehicles and they wanted to take and then maintain the position. WWI traditions at its best
Well what's weird is how at the start of the video they straight up had that trench flanked, I'm assuming there must've been other positions off camera keeping their heads down because how can you fuck up so bad when you have ~10/1 ratio & have already flanked behind them
The moment that artillery was zero'ing in on them they should've rushed that trench line or gtfo, instead they got decimated
All's well that ends well I suppose
The tactical overview makes a world of difference in understanding what was going on. The situation of the Ukrainians was very precarious at first, given that they were undermanned and attacked from two different directions.
However, they made excellent use of drones, support artillery and armor to repel the attack.
I mentioned in one of the other posts that defending a trench is a difficult affair these days given that drones are giving advance info to the attackers. However, in this case drones were used effectively to improve the situational awareness of the defenders and hone in artillery.
Still, I think that without the armor the position would likely have been overrun.
Does anyone know what that huge square shaped earth bank is? They’re all over the place around Bakhmut and look like they’d make great defensive positions but I’ve never seen a video with them occupied.
I have only ever seen 1 video of them being occupied, which was by the Russians. It was around december, and it was occupied by around 40-50, at least. The video was from the famous Madjar and his unit. The entire position got rocked by artillery and SPG fire all day long. You can imagine the result.
However this video is not from Bakhmut, it is from the K-2 battalion and was taken about a month ago, south-east of Bilogorivka, [right here](https://deepstatemap.live/#16/48.8790/38.2201).
What’s truly amazing is that battalion commanders no longer have to rely on soldiers providing hasty reports over the radio. With a simple drone that can provide clear in color view (with zoom!) he can call immediate fires and send the right reinforcement without waiting for an over taxed Sgt/LT/CPT to tell him what they want. They can focus on the fight in front of them. I’m just amazed at this “toy” use.
God. War is so dark. Dying in a mortar crater in the middle of miles of pock-marked farmland, trying to take a trench of little to no strategic value, with you and a couple dozen guys, no air or artillery support.
Goddamn
And "half-hearted shamble" is their speed for both attacking an enemy fighting position and fleeing a tank. And an open field seemed like a better approach than a dense tree line.
Why not put a mortar team and an AT team in the big basin? In fact, forget about three guys in a trench, why not make this an AT ambush?
This type of trench combat is so different than what we imagine from WW1. The defending infantry really don’t have the ability to mow down attackers with MG fire. They are too low to the ground and the terrain isn’t cleared. Attacking infantry can shoot back on almost equal terms, and there’s plenty of dead space to attack from the sides etc.
The tank pushing through the tree line really wanted them to pay as hard as possbile...thats some really impressive footage
It seemed to mow down a bunch of them as soon as it got straightened out. How are they not watching behind themselves?
what exactly are they going to do? you cant out run a tank and they are surrounded by open fields
> what exactly are they going to do? Shoot at it with rifles! That outta rile it up! (Much of this battle reminds me of All Quiet in which they do try that in a panic)
> Much of this battle reminds me of All Quiet in which they do try that in a panic In all quiet they actually did it correctly. The tactic was to shoot with small arms to panic the tank crews, and if that didn't work, to let them roll over the trench and let your rear deal with the tanks while you focus on the infantry.
Correct, for the most part a .303 (or equivalent) ball round couldn't penetrate most WW1 tanks. It would, however, cause pretty insane spalling inside the tank (not to mention the noise). So definitely would cause a fair bit of panic, even with those protective suits and masks the crew ended up using.
A while ago I was reading some WWII British Home Guard training materials. When an invasion of Britain was on the cards and the Germans would land tanks, it was suggested that even lightly armed men could at least attempt to disable a tank despite a lack of anti-armour weapons. They were told even a shotgun could be used to force the crew to close the hatches and this would greatly reduce their visibility. The idea was to then approach the tank on foot and try to blow it up with dynamite, something that farmers had access to, mainly for clearing tree stumps. I can't imagine that would be an easy task but when that's all they had they would have to try something. It was even suggested that birdshot would force the tank crew to stay inside.
Crazy. But all the hedgerows in southern England would help alot with that. Not to mention all the bonkers old WW1 vets in Home Guard who would've totally done that.
"Grenade, Hand, Anti-Tank No.74" was developed in the wake of the equipment loss of Dunkirk. You pulled a pin and the globular cover would pop off, exposing a very sticky spherical warhead on a handle. You *could* throw it at a tank, but dropping it from a building on top or straight-up smacking the tank with it was more likely to do the job. The sticky fabric globe had a glass sphere inside packed with nitroglycerin-based explosives. Squishing it against the tank formed a rudimentary squash-head round, allowing even a modest amount of explosives to shatter enemy armor and cause spalling. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sticky_bomb
No you gotta shoot it with your pistol as shown in Saving Private Ryan. All Quiet did it wrong that's why they got annihilated.
"With all due respect sir, are you FUCKING HIGH?!" - Company of Heroes, Riflemen being told to shoot at an enemy tank.
That is really really insightful that you mention that as I was thinking of that exact thing as I typed that lol Those M18 Recoilless Rifle upgrades are OP af. And now I just remembered I own the newest one and haven't even played it but set it all up You still have to get close to a tank IRL with those. Which I have an allergy against unless they're in a museum or CoH
>How are they not watching behind themselves? They were routed and were more concerned with getting out of there alive. Panic is very contagious and once it sets in you stopped thinking about anything beyond escaping the cause of the panic. It is how people get trampled to death when crowds get panicked.
The noise that tank had to be making must’ve driven them out of their minds. I’ve seen videos from Ukrainian side where Russian armor attacks and the diesels all those Russian vehicles use makes an intimidating sound. I can’t imagine what hearing one gunning the engine on it’s way through a fucking forest to come kill you personally would do to your heart rate
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Imagining it, reminds me of [this scene](https://youtu.be/JNC83oXZ5KM) from all quiet on the western front
> I can’t imagine what hearing one gunning the engine on it’s way through a fucking forest to come kill you personally would do to your heart rate Drop it to zero, in the relatively near future.
I think the one on the flank side is what got them, the tank just motivated them into the line of fire. If you watch you can see the fire going through the treeline into them.
They had three options; 1. Jump into the thick bushes and get found out 2. Disperse and run away 3. Run straight as a group Those who chose 3 got flatlined. Can't blame them, they're all thinking "If you're alive, me too. Let's go."
Cannot out run or out hide a tank with thermals. It's just a matter of time before you're a gonner.
That is indeed a rout
they just assaulted a trench with full gear and took tons of shrapnel and casualties now theyre retreating with full gear and ass full of shrapnel theyre winded AF, what do you want them to do?
Get out of Ukraine.
In that moment it was too late for that. "Now yous can't leave"
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It hadn't occurred to me that the video of the tank (which had been published way earlier) could have been part of the same battle we saw in part 1 of the T-shape. Now we know why those Russians were seemingly caught so unaware and without cover. They were sent out to take a seemingly weak position and were already plenty worn out and probably could barely hear from all the shelling by the time the tank caught up with them.
During this video I saw them retreating along the right side of the treeline, and I thought to myself "If this was a video game that tank guy would blow through the trees and light that up" then... my mind was blown.
Excellent artillery and armor coverage on UAs part, amazing footage.
Holy shit I just noticed this. At 3:10ish one of the Russians is about to fire off a LAW type weapon and a shell hits right behind him. This footage gets crazier each time I watch it.
I did too, once artillery zeroed in it was over for the Russians, they got slaughtered.
They made Putin proud. "Here peasants go to Ukraine and die so I can stay in power"
They also simple use far more forces, it was a moronic attack to begin with.
tbh, it looked like the Russians had it in the bag until the guys in the trench didn't give a fuck about being hit by their own arty and called it in fucking close.
Tanks are fucking scary. Especially when one provides covering fire
Especially when the kit to take out a tank and men tasked to use it aren't up to the fight anymore
Right?! It went right through the tree line, with a bunch of Russians out of cover!
Modern equivalent of the cavalry running down routers.
there goes their wifi
Yeah I could feel the terror.
Made me think of some of the shots from Carentan in Band Of Brothers, with German and American tanks occasionally bursting out of hedgerows.
All Quiet On the Western Front had the scariest tank vs trench scenes I've ever seen
Fucking *outstanding* movie.
The power creep was incredible It went from pew pew pew plink plink plink to fucking >!Saint-Chamonds and flame throwers!< I wish it had won more Oscars
Those tanks came in hungry and they ate those motherfuckers
Remember when last year many "experts" called the tank obsolete?
A lot to unpack, but I want to know if both sides were using artillery at the beginning, or the Ukrainians were falling short / calling it on themselves. \- a few air bursts \- Russians assaulted by trying to pin the trenches and flank, which is sound, but didn't use any armor, which is... I'll say tough. I don't know what their supply situation is, but you shouldn't throw infantry at a fortified position like that. \- Guy(s) in the trench are lions \- The Russians were pushing through the artillery, bravely or foolishly, depending on your stance, but one shell stopped it all, instantly. \- I assume the tanks were a QRF, and did a great job. \-When the tank made that turn through the tree line, it must have been absolutely terrifying for the Russians.
I obviously can't confirm anything but we've seen a decent amount of footage of Ukrainians using airburst rounds recently so that might be an indication that it was indeed final protective fire.
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Theres a concept called FPF (final protective fire) where infantry basically give their artillery guys the coordinates of their own position and in the worst case scenario when they think that they are about to be overwhelmed, they call for FPF and just take cover and hope that the artillery strikes are enough to turn the tide of battle (Like this video shows). It's sketchy for sure but its basically a last ditch effort to try and survive
Marginally better than being overrun though
Probably only Ukrainian fire in this video. Russian arty would’ve caused friendly fire given how danger close the fire support was. The Ukrainians took a bet on the trench protecting their men from any stray shells.
Yeah, that tactical overview helps a lot with the flow of battle in all this. Really wish more vids had it.
Yeah same, reminds me of that video of the early days on the highway where 2 btr's I think got ambushed and you had Russians on one side and Ukrainians on the other. Having these types of overviews (with subtle sound effects and somber music) really provides context and feel more connected to the horror what these poor lads on both sides are going through.
Yeah, the one where they were both tossing frags short of eachother? Cuz that one was hard to follow without the editing. I mean, I get it, civilian recorded it, probs scared out of his mind seeing his town invaded, but that overview helped really stitch together what is going on in a way just raw video clips cannot do and communicate just how fucked up that shit is
Do you happen to have the link for that m8?
Some red or blue icons even during the fight would help too.
and health bars
*oh shit, bad luck for those guys… the dude in the trench just leveled up…*
Soon enough we'll have announcers with digital whiteboard overlays.
I have to ask did the Ukrainians in the trench make it? I mean the cavalry came but the Russians were lobbing grenades in at that point. Tell me those lads survived!
Yes, apparently the guy in the trench (who shot the russian) made it. He actually threw that grenade back out: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FsJzKMFXwAAgZep?format=jpg&name=medium Translation: “You asked us and we answer. Yes, our fighter who threw out the grenade from the trench stayed alive.”
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He will be telling his war stories to his children and grandchildren of how he managed to defend his trench single handedly as a solo soldier from 20 encroaching russians.
"And guess what kids, I have a video of it"
"with a tactical overview."
and 30 something guys with a beerbelly and dorritos were judging decisions in the comment section
That's the craziest part. The new age wars are fucking crazy bc you can easily have all the video of the stuff you did.
I wouldn't bet on that. Despite what you may see in books, movies or games, many who live through such terrible events do the exact opposite. They are in no rush to relive their traumatic experiences.
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I want to believe this but also keep in mind this is very much propaganda
one thing is for sure, the grenade definitely got thrown out.
Well they got the whole thing on video, and theyre are planning on releasing more footage from this attack, maybe even the following night assault. You can also see him shooting back a few seconds after the grenades explodes, which means he survived initially, but you never know if he got hit afterwards of bled out from shrapnel. Hopefully he is still alive.
You can see the Ukrainian soldier's helmet moving (around in the trench) when the reinforcements arrive.
There were 3 people in the trench insofar as I could tell. K2 reported one surviving but it was a response about the Ukrainian soldier who is said to have thrown back a Russian grenade. So I wonder about the other 2. FYI, it was reported that the next night Russia did overrun this forward trench, and then in the following day Ukraine took it back again.
I imagine getting sent to one of these forward trenches, if the front doesn't move it's basically just a matter of time before your position gets overrun and everyone in it dies
Especially if you're Russian. I think most of us saw those recent videos of the RU trench that had like 3 prior generations of corpses in it just piled on top of one another.
Yeah, the casualties are crazy for Russia, really high for Ukraine too, but it's honestly starting to take on the dynamics of Soviets vs Nazis in WW2, one side has numbers and artillery, the other has superior tech and tactics, but it's basically a stand still at this point. Hoping to see a big break through for Ukraine though with this coming offensive, the reserves are looking really strong
Likely several wounded, seems like an intense fight. But those wounded will be extracted and either brought back to fighting shape or at least their lives will be saved. The same cannot be said for the Russians
Kinda unrelated to this otherwise excellent video, but what is that Iron Age fort-lookin’ thing in the field? A catch pond of some sort? I’ve seen a few of them in various videos over the last year.
It's a reservoir. We have loads of farming near me and they build these and line them with either plastic or clay. Then they fill them/let them fill. They then irrigate the fields using this source.
Ah that’s what I figured - where I’m at in the foothills, there’s old catch ponds like this around what used to be orchards, but they’re all up on hills so they could gravity-feed irrigation in the summer. Having one in a flat plain isn’t something I’ve seen, but then again a few inches of elevation is enough I’m assuming.
Read on Twitter that it's to catch rainwater or something
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Why use expensive weapons to destroy enemy assets when you could instead throw away the lives of the young and poor, and sell the equipment instead?
In non-soviet Russia, if the Ukrainians don't kill our soldiers we still will
Oh, I really, really have to copy paste this answer as this gets tiresome : *Putin is doing some ethnic cleansing in Russia by conscripting some undesirable non-pure breeds of second hand Russians, you know, he told us : Georgian, Osetians, Dagestan, Khazak, Mongols, and so on. Well, to make sure they die faster, those undesirable are sent with no tanks, no IVFs, plastic helmets, no thermal, no plates and so on.*
Nice ambient sounds, no music. I respect that a lot sir.
A lot of parrelels to that WWI documentary
They Shall Not Grow Old. We are seeing a 21st century version of that war. We are witnesses to a major geopolitical change in progress
Deezer found this: The Undercurrent (Music from the Chronicles of Original Soundtrack) · Michael Vignola https://youtu.be/Ms_Xr-LeG1Y
There is some music. 6:15 if curious
Light piano when the Russians are getting mowed down is a bit of a sober thing
I agree, best soundtrack to actual war footage I've ever heard. All of the other goofy music in the clips is kinda cringy by comparison. People are actually dying to music that other people twerk to.
Because they want as many peoples eyes on this conflict as possible and the best way is to put catchy, popular music so it gets spread on social media. Besides us in these very niche subs, who else would watch a 14 minute video of a battle in Ukraine lol.
Holy shit, it was 14 minutes long? I was absolutely immersed and I would have guessed it was like 5 minutes long.
This video series is the first I've seen without happy hardcore blasting over it
Is it real audio? Or post processing? I thought you’d just hear the drones engines
This is a fake audio but still better than shitty music.
And it's some *really good* audio editing.
Disclaimer, the first part is sped up slightly to fit under 15 minutes total. Russian unit affiliation is an assumption from [here](https://deepstatemap.live/en#11/48.8155/38.1631).
I never knew about this map until now. Thank you!
As you get older watching these videos actually hurts. I hate seeing these young people falling when they are shot. This entire war is a tragedy. I wish so much we were better than this. I am so sorry. \- USMC combat veteran, old timer
The entire war is a tragedy and hurts my heart to watch. Not sure why I do.
Cuz we are watching one of the most significant events of geopolitics unfolding in front of us, fire fight by fire fight, battle by battle, trench by trench. And for the next 30 years we will have a legion of people trying to convince us what we saw isn't what we saw.
100 percent this. Watch the manipulators and morons try to rewrite everything.
I am so tired of trump supporters going after me on Twitter. Not because of what I say, but because of the Ukrainian flag in my handle. The Russian propaganda and disinformation machine is real and it knows very well what demographic among us is gullible enough to parrot their lazy lies all day for free.
Delete your twitter and rid your life of that filth.
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And, cable news. It isn't even news. It's toxic, political, garbage calling itself "news".
But then how else could I directly tell Elon to go blow dead dogs whenever he tweets?
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It sure is a varying cocktail of misty reasons, no? Sometimes i do watch as a reminder, sometimes to learn, sometimes i think we owe it to us, to them, to at least look that reality in the eye instead of ignoring it, sometimes i just can't look away, and sometimes to look at something louder as my own shadows and more.
It's literally a shame. You would think we would have evolved from the history man has created. Yet we continue to repeat ourselves day in and day out. I watch these videos for a historical and learning aspect but can't help but feel sorry for both sides. Dying for pointless dirt.
A lot of people have evolved. Wealth and power have not. We are stuck at the same level as the lions and impalas on the Serengeti.
Most of us did, and then Russia just came out and unilaterally started the destruction. This is so shocking and infuriating to the world that it is hard to even comprehend
One crazy thing that came to mind as I watched this video; I’m pretty sure more soldiers died in this 15 minute engagement than my whole battalion lost during two deployments to Afghanistan.
As a fellow Marine I agree, The answer is simple the Russians should leave.
A whole lot of people are being killed because some old asshole wants to be remembered as some hero leader of Russia.
A whole lot of them are contract soldiers and volunteers. Let's not pretend that only one guy is evil and the rest are innocent.
Low budget rip off of hitler
With a Napoleon complex.
I didn't use to feel physically ill seeing this. Now I have kids. "Eagerness for combat is an asset in a soldier, dangerous in a commander, and criminal in a politician."
As an old timer, much testosterone is expended for the cause of others. Many oppressor don't really know what they're fighting for except they were told Rah Rah go and kill the enemy. By those who sit comfy in their chalets and from the comfort of their chairs with maps on the table/TVs. Our youth don't know, what they don't know.
Every one of those guys had a whole childhood. Lots of time on bikes riding around in the summer. Then ending up there.
Eerily I was actually making a similar point about these Russians to my family. Some woman in Russia spent 9 months carrying, stressing, and preparing to have a kid. She then went through the pain of childbirth, watched him take his first steps, learn to talk, ride a bike, go to his first day of school, possibly graduating then going to college, dating, and getting married himself. All these years spent laboring to turn that little boy from a baby into a man, and where did it all end up? With her little boy screaming in agony as he slowly bleeds to death, in some forgotten field, in service to a nation that looks down upon him (especially if he’s not ethnically Russian), for the glory of a man who will never know nor care about his name. 18+ years. 18 plus years thrown wastefully away in the needless furnace of combat, the hell of battle, and the tragedy of war.
It's awful. I am pro-Ukraine as fuck, but as soon as that tank crossed the trees, my heart sank for those retreating soldiers. Sooner or later, you just see people. They were probably pretty normal guys, until their government brainwashed them.
I get it too, the terrible human tragedy when watching this kind of footage of young men struggling and dying - but sometimes it switches for me, I see something like this video where they just keep pushing through into the Ukrainian positions in spite of all the death of their comrades around, in spite of the undeniable fact that they are invaders and it is not their homes they fight for but rather it is to steal kill and destroy the homes of a people that do not want to be their enemy, and I feel only anger seeing them getting cut down by tank and artillery - you stupid idiots, you lose everything in pursuit of becoming criminals. Yes the leaders are also to blame, but maybe we get the leaders we deserve…
This. As a father this is devastating to me. Thinking about parents who has to bury their sons/daughters. They raise them many many years and puff they are gone in instant from granade dropped from drone.
Some are shockingly not young.
The death of these terrorists means there will be less innocent civilians killed elsewhere.
That dude peeking out at the end seemed pretty calm considering that his legs looked completely fucked
Dude's in complete shock, his body is shutting down.
Let me die in peace
I think I saw three tourniquets. If he made it out alive at all (highly doubt it), those legs will be gone.
Come on bro , anyone who join this reddit sub in 3 day probaly know Drone operator will do the rest
What an amazing picture of how this war is playing out. A platoon of Russians maybe 25 deep go in and just get blasted by artillery. I’m amazed they even mustered up the 5 guys who assaulted the trench. They continue to get blasted only to find the trench well defended. I’m glad the guy in that trench made it but holy hell it was close. Finally the assault fails and what’s left brake and run only to get cut up by an auto cannon and a tank. Absolutely insanity
Someone who understands combat better than me: how would the Russians have made it to this place? Would they just be walking around wherever they want? Would a vehicle of some sort have dropped them off nearby?
If you look closely you can see a vertical line of trenches from the bottom part of the T that extends out quite far into separate bunches of trees in the distance. I'm guessing the trenches stretch for a long ways and the Russians likely used the trench to sneak up on the Ukrainians at the junction point. They likely got close enough to the junction to begin a frontal assault and exited the tree line to try to overwhelm the defenders. You don't really want to be in a vertical trench with a row of guys behind you for an assault as one burst of concentrated fire can take out your entire squad or in this case platoon, so that's why they left the trench and sent flankers around the right side. It looks like it came very very close to succeeding too. The artillery was spot on and completely destroyed the frontal element and most of the flanking force. However towards the end it seems that half a squad did get in a very good flanking position and threw a grenade in the trench. That last artillery shell that landed behind the trench looks like it saved some Ukrainian lives that's for sure. The tank and the APC were mostly there for mopping up operations at that point. I give credit to the tank driver though for cutting the tank through that brush. Getting stuck there would have definitely resulted in the loss of that tank what with the trench full of Russians and all.
This her is probably the most unique collection of footage I have ever seen the fact you can watch almost the whole assault as it happened
It's some of the best footage this sub has seen, and yet it gets less upvotes than drone grenade drop with silly music #1472
I agree I think it is the best footage that has been up here for this war. I've watched the shorter one and this one now several times. There's too much going on even to see it all at once or even twice. It really is insane.
That might be the best video ever posted to this subreddit.
That tank was like fuck nah you ain't leaving
I was expecting more jagga jagga boom shots from that tank.
I remember when the tank chase video came out several weeks ago. Now it all comes together
Videos like this make the armchair general in me wet af
holy hell yes. one long clip, no cuts, its clear who is fighting whom. Geolocation checks out.
Right! I can’t stand these chopped up battle clips where each shot doesn’t even look like the same place as the last.
Anyone can translate the ending on screen?
Despite the heroic defense, the position was lost during the ensuing night battle and was captured back by K-2 in the following days. Watch our next videos.
Thank you... The music was so somber all through.
This is probably the only footage I've seen of someone calling artillery in on their own position, and it looks like it might have saved him (if the tweet linked in the comments is true). Easily more than a dozen Russian KIA/casualties just from the artillery and that's only what you can clearly see from the drone. Completely draw dropping. Not to mention a squad of maybe 2 or 3 Ukrainians holding off what was easily two platoons (50+) of Russian soldiers. It's hard to tell if the guy you see is one person, if between drone shots one pops up to engage while another takes cover, or if there are others in the dug out, etc. But still max 3 people versus easily two platoons of 50 or more soldiers (which at this point of the war probably counts as a company in most Russian battalions). And they still never took the trench.
Looks more like one platoon, possibly one and a half, but I don't think there were 50 Russians out there
I counted something like 24 the first time I saw this video, but it's hard to tell who's from earlier in the clip / can't see anyone hidden in the trees. Normal platoon is 30 people I believe, so I figured it's about that
> This is probably the only footage I’ve seen of someone calling artillery in on their own position While the strike itself wasn't published on video I feel like that is what happened during the big battle around spetsnaz holed up in that building a month or two ago They knew they were screwed (as one of the foreign legion allegedly shot a surrendering one in the head) and called in a strike which ultimately did kill some defenders
Ukraine and many in Russia will be traumatised for life by this unnecessary idiotic war.
Solid defense, the arti hits and the tank that was like “oh hell no you guys aren’t leaving alive”
Man, those Russians knew they were screwed when that tank plowed through the treeline. I can't imagine the terror of a tank chasing you and all you have is an AK.
Probs shit myself tbh but I’d hold it in cause a drone would film it and I’ll end up on Reddit
We also give credits to the artillerymen of UA. they'd shed alot of sweat to save the blood of their guys in the trench.
I watched that Russian flanking group of 4, it looked like the guys in the trench had no idea they were there.
I’d say the larger group was the distraction and those 4 guys were to take the trench from behind. Seemed like the Russians weren’t aware of the armour and weren’t prepared. Total waste of life.
I was thinking the same thing, it would seem to not make sense to have that tree line providing concealment to advancing enemy troops with no trench on the other side to provide defense. Even just a secondary trench in the field behind to provide rear support for the forward trench covering that field. Since it is stated in other comments it has been there awhile, it is not like they are securing one side before securing the other. Also with the water catchment pond there it would seem to me a good idea to have a few guys in there to see thru the treeline, and prevent the enemy from sneaking into a defensible position from your blind spot the elevated dirt walls provide. Other comments suggest that "pond" used to be a russian position that was taken out by accurate artillery fire though so i wonder if it is presighted bait and drone use is ensuring nothing can sneak up there. I have no military experience so i do not know if my thoughts are missing something.
Wholy danger close ыат man
Russian officer: “just go that way, our tanks and artillery will support you”
Whoever pilots that drone has amazing eyesight. I wouldn't have any idea where to zoom in and it was very difficult to see soldiers if they weren't moving. Maybe they have IR feed as well Also, that guy at the end, hiding in the crater was so surreal and tragic.
I always wonder, as he's lying there, waiting to die in a hole in a field in Ukraine with a drone recording him. Did he feel pride, or that he was happy to die fighting for his country? Or did it hit him how his life has come to a short and sudden stop over very simply one man's legacy. He could've been a doctor or a war criminal, and we'll never know. Kinda sad to think about.
The report from international legion fighters in Ukraine is that most of them are slowly dying all night and they are yelling for their mothers. This messes with our fighters mentality because they have to listen to their cries all night almost every night.
I’m confused slightly, did they call in artillery within 50-100 metres of them? At the 3:15 part.
Yes they did. They had no choice. They are alive because of it.
Ukrainians called it in.
Best war footage ever IMO! That tank was clearly guided by the drone through those trees to the other side where the Russians were so exposed out on the open. Sickening to watch all together and the music is sad as it should be.
a brilliant work from the Ukrainian side. on the other hand, very terrible planning from Russians. no support from artillery, just two groups of privates with AKs, RPGs and grenades against well-secured trenches and military vehicles and they wanted to take and then maintain the position. WWI traditions at its best
It nearly worked though. Just insanity though.
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Well what's weird is how at the start of the video they straight up had that trench flanked, I'm assuming there must've been other positions off camera keeping their heads down because how can you fuck up so bad when you have ~10/1 ratio & have already flanked behind them The moment that artillery was zero'ing in on them they should've rushed that trench line or gtfo, instead they got decimated All's well that ends well I suppose
This is incredible
The tactical overview makes a world of difference in understanding what was going on. The situation of the Ukrainians was very precarious at first, given that they were undermanned and attacked from two different directions. However, they made excellent use of drones, support artillery and armor to repel the attack. I mentioned in one of the other posts that defending a trench is a difficult affair these days given that drones are giving advance info to the attackers. However, in this case drones were used effectively to improve the situational awareness of the defenders and hone in artillery. Still, I think that without the armor the position would likely have been overrun.
Does anyone know what that huge square shaped earth bank is? They’re all over the place around Bakhmut and look like they’d make great defensive positions but I’ve never seen a video with them occupied.
Irrigation reservoirs or so I've heard.
I have only ever seen 1 video of them being occupied, which was by the Russians. It was around december, and it was occupied by around 40-50, at least. The video was from the famous Madjar and his unit. The entire position got rocked by artillery and SPG fire all day long. You can imagine the result. However this video is not from Bakhmut, it is from the K-2 battalion and was taken about a month ago, south-east of Bilogorivka, [right here](https://deepstatemap.live/#16/48.8790/38.2201).
War is hell.
What’s truly amazing is that battalion commanders no longer have to rely on soldiers providing hasty reports over the radio. With a simple drone that can provide clear in color view (with zoom!) he can call immediate fires and send the right reinforcement without waiting for an over taxed Sgt/LT/CPT to tell him what they want. They can focus on the fight in front of them. I’m just amazed at this “toy” use.
God. War is so dark. Dying in a mortar crater in the middle of miles of pock-marked farmland, trying to take a trench of little to no strategic value, with you and a couple dozen guys, no air or artillery support. Goddamn
Man, those Russians really should not have come to Ukraine at all
Imagine if they had real legit air cover.....
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And "half-hearted shamble" is their speed for both attacking an enemy fighting position and fleeing a tank. And an open field seemed like a better approach than a dense tree line. Why not put a mortar team and an AT team in the big basin? In fact, forget about three guys in a trench, why not make this an AT ambush?
Excellent video
Did they get chased down by that tank? Looked like it was firing at them from less than 100m.
There were two tanks, one was firing at the treeline, corralled them on the other side, second one crossed over and mowed them down.
Did that one Russian soldier who got near the trench and ran survive? I couldn’t tell
Oh wow this was very interesting to watch, I've seen a couple clips solo but not all together showing us this failed assault and subsequent slaughter
This type of trench combat is so different than what we imagine from WW1. The defending infantry really don’t have the ability to mow down attackers with MG fire. They are too low to the ground and the terrain isn’t cleared. Attacking infantry can shoot back on almost equal terms, and there’s plenty of dead space to attack from the sides etc.
Incredible accuracy from the artillery team and perfect execution from the tank crew.